Root Access

That Brazilian Guy

00:07

Anyone here ever used a Samsung Galaxy On7? I might end up buying one.

Hmmm I wonder if it has an official stable LineageOS Image. And if it's easily rootable / flashable

No Lineage OS :'(

Journeyman Geek

00:53

@ThatBrazilianGuy that's fairly common

Luttinger

01:13

Guys
Somthing funny happened

Using remote desktop, I can connect from the remote machine using Powershell to my (local) PC, but not the other way!

That Brazilian Guy

01:26

Firewalls?

Luttinger

Just windows firewall on both sides

and Enable-PSRemoting -Force should allow connections

That Brazilian Guy

Hm, I know nothing about PowerShell

Luttinger

Can two computers anywhere (connected to the Internet) connect to each other using SSH?

Journeyman Geek

01:42

@Luttinger that's vaguely the point of SSH, or almost any remote admin tool for that matter

Luttinger

@JourneymanGeek What do I need to know about the remote computer to connect to it?

Journeyman Geek

~~the basics~~

Usually an ip address you can reach is good enough, and that it has ssh installed + usable credentials

That Brazilian Guy

@Luttinger You've got to take it to dinner first. Well, it's not mandatory, but that's what gentleman do.

Journeyman Geek

ideally you should be using key based auth, but the minimal you need is a working username and password on it

(I like using non standard ports, it gets rid of the low hanging fruit attacks)

Luttinger

@JourneymanGeek I always just used a client and entered IP and the password without asking what is happening behind the scenes

Journeyman Geek

01:47

Well, you usually don't need to know most of it

That Brazilian Guy

Sigh. My wife wants to watch this photography reality show on an obscure cable channel.

They have it on their site. Their site seems to be hosted on a 386 with 8 MB of RAM

Luttinger

Another question

Journeyman Geek

now now. Its the teens. We use a raspberry pi for those things ;)

That Brazilian Guy

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa

THEY ARE USING TIMTHUMB

cc @Burgi

THEY ARE USING TIMTHUMB

Journeyman Geek

@Luttinger has anyone given you the "what this chat is" speech? ;p

That Brazilian Guy

01:50

WHO THE FUCK USES TIMTHUMB IN 2017

Journeyman Geek

They do

That Brazilian Guy

Luttinger

I enabled remote desktop connection on the remote computer. Now, can I connect even when other users are logged in?

Journeyman Geek

@Luttinger at this point I'm really going to recommend considering if these things go on the main site. There's probably already a question there.

Luttinger

@JourneymanGeek I think these things are not really good on the main site. Too simple I think

Journeyman Geek

01:53

@Luttinger on the other hand, least here, we're trying not to have the situation many tech IRCs have, where chat's basically just a stream of people asking small questions ._.

discussion happens but usually in the context of "darn it, this thing dosen't work"

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Q: Is it possible to have two Win 10 user accounts running simultaneously, with one used locally and one used via RDP?

I need to allow someone to remotely connect to my windows 10 computer, and am wondering if this is possible: I have two user accounts right now on my computer, one for me to work on and one for my friend remotely. I want to use my user account locally for myself, and I want to allow him to RDP a...

Luttinger

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, that's a good point. This is the key difference with the science chat rooms here (where you can clearly give the answer, or you simply can't).

Here there's no clear solution for any question so yeah you're right

Journeyman Geek

@Luttinger we're a little flexible about it - I do admit its kinda unusual, and sometimes I go "meeeeh, let the chat flow" but its worth keeping in mind ^^

extremetech.com/gaming/…

this looks potentially fun

Luttinger

02:10

@JourneymanGeek I asked this because Powershell remoting requires the local networks on both the remote and the local machines to be Private, so it has to do something with your local network. If you want to connect over the internet, your local network type shouldn't really matter

Journeyman Geek

@Luttinger that sounds a lot like a firewall thing than a protocol thing

Luttinger

@JourneymanGeek The private/public network settings should only affect the people on your local network. Logically it should be the same for people outside

Therefore, powershell remoting seems like something only for local networks (at least this was my confusion)

Journeyman Geek

02:43

@Luttinger "public/private" is basically firewall rules based on what your system thinks your local network is

Bob

02:57

@allquixotic eh, anything based on MSI should have an unattended mode

@allquixotic *looks at Server Core system* :D

Luttinger

03:53

I'm going to use a combination of SSH and remote desktop. Couldn't find a solution for the SSH problem though (still kills the processes after I log out).

I also contacted bitvise too.

I'm off to bed now. Thanks for all your help. really appreciated :)

allquixotic

@Luttinger probably you would have to run the processes in session 0 under a windows service

Bob

05:40

hi

Journeyman Geek

hi

allquixotic

06:53

ello

Bob

07:18

and now the reception

Journeyman Geek

reception?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek start here chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/118?m=41072181#41072181

Journeyman Geek

ahh right

Bob

why is there a bottle of vodka on every table

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Russian Wedding? ;p

Bob

08:14

the table one over has gone through half a bottle

between... 3 people?

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Bob

it's 40% ABV

Bob

09:31

and that's a whole bottle

Journeyman Geek

Oo

Bob

10:28

the next table is... rather loud

That Brazilian Guy

11:18

Who live ~~tweets~~ webchats a Wedding? ;p

Journeyman Geek

11:31

lol

who wouldn't?

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy slight boredom = poking into chat every half hour or so

djsmiley2k

12:39

@allquixotic i said it should be a service, almost right away :/

Also my dreams are back

which is cool, because it means i'm actually sleeping \o/

but my god are they weird again

Journeyman Geek

Blame Rascally Rarebits?

djsmiley2k

lol

i blame messing up at work, and them not being total doche'#s about it

djsmiley2k

13:05

why would you put vodka on the tables indeed ://

djsmiley2k

13:31

Yo, windows vista laptop, any way now to get it upgraded to win 10?

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k it might actually be able to run it

but there's no upgrade path

djsmiley2k

I mean can I get 10 for them for free?

Journeyman Geek

hmm. ~~depends?~~ no

djsmiley2k

Lol I don't care morally

Journeyman Geek

Oh

cough

Well the trouble is there's no free upgrade path

djsmiley2k

13:35

But I don't want a pirated version

Journeyman Geek

so you couldn't, say, take a activated, pirated copy of windows 7 , upgrade it, then reinstall windows 10 afresh

NOT THAT YOU SHOULD OR COULD DO THIS NOW

but vista never had a free upgrade path to 10

djsmiley2k

Ok could I install it in a VM to get a key then use that on a laptop

Or do I need to set up a special version of window 7 on the laptop hardware??

Journeyman Geek

errr

the key is tied to the hardware

but the direct 7 to 10 upgrade thing no longer really works

unless you use the assistive tech loophole but that's closing soon

djsmiley2k

13:52

Hmmm

I could grab the laptop now, stick a spare drive into it, but I'd need to do win 7, then assisted upgrade.... Then wipe it

? Right, we can then stick a new HDD in when ever?

bwDraco

Like tabs?

►

I can't wait to put Firefox Quantum to the test.

Mokubai

@bwDraco Ca a standard firefox update to it or is it a new browser?

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k assuming you get till windows 10

there's prrrrobably easier/more sneaky ways

djsmiley2k

14:09

:/

I just need the simplest way lol

bwDraco

Sep 26 at 20:48, by bwDraco

I'm curious how Firefox ESR 52 compares with Firefox Quantum on an 8C/16T machine...

@Mokubai Version 57, coming out on November 14th.

Mokubai

@bwDraco Cool, cheers. I need anything that'll make my tab hell better.

Bob

14:41

you don't even need 57 for lots of tabs

lots of tabs is smooth as butter on ... 54?+

Mokubai

@Bob To be fair Firefox is a metric shedload better than Chrome anyway, what with only actually loading a tab when you first use it...

Mokubai

15:41

I love the nearly freezing patch on the left next to the heat death area...

Luttinger

16:07

I asked Bitvise and they answered today. I will post an answer to my own question (with a link to their post).

Bob

16:35

@Luttinger awesome :)

That Brazilian Guy

16:57

@Bob I once went to the wedding of a guy who I had known for years and had no idea he had loads of money.

Personally he's the nicest guy ever and super simple (well, as simple as middle class can be)

Got invited to his wedding, and it's in this super huge place, super fancy decorations

We had to take a bot to reach the after-wedding party on an insland

Waiters would give multiple, apparently unlimited vodka and whisky bottles to every table

multiple caipirinha and sushi stands over the place

I don't remember a group of friends ever getting so collectively drunk

allquixotic

17:43

docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/…

Only started gathering data this morning so ignore before the first green

Basically I am suffering from a fair bit of packet loss

DavidPostill

18:34

@allquixotic :( Is it in the first hop or further downstream?

djsmiley2k

@allquixotic ducks

FFS auto correct

FML

18:53

!!ducks

ChatBot John Cavil

@FML That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

FML

@Mokubai Chrome did that.

Until they made the super smart decision to implement a new feature to background load everything when you don't want it to

allquixotic

19:52

@DavidPostill don't know

DavidPostill

20:03

@allquixotic Hmm. Try running pathping to a well known site. For example www.bbc.co.uk and a few other local well known sites. That should enable you to pinpoint where the packet loss is occurring ...

djsmiley2k

traceroute

not sure what pathping is

DavidPostill

PathPing

PathPing is a network utility supplied in Windows NT and beyond that combines the functionality of ping with that of tracert. It provides details of the path between two hosts and Ping-like statistics for each node in the path based on samples taken over a time period, depending on how many nodes are between the start and end host. The advantages of PathPing over ping and traceroute are that each node is pinged as the result of a single command, and that the behavior of nodes is studied over an extended time period, rather than the default ping sample of four messages or default traceroute single...

Twisty Impersonator

I just confirmed I can review a VLQ post, then go to the original post and flag it a second time with a VLQ flag. This seems wrong. I've searched Meta.SE for a previous report of this and am only finding reports of the opposite (flagged a post, then stumbled on it again in a queue). Before I post a Meta question, anyone out there know if this has been addressed before?

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k A combination of ping and tracert on steroids. Shows loss at particular routers and loss in the pipes between routers.

PathPing

djsmiley2k

20:27

nod

djsmiley2k

20:47

go.twitch.tv/djsmiley2k - I'm playing bound, with no clue what I'm doiung.

DavidPostill

21:07

@djsmiley2k lol. at least you are not dying :)

djsmiley2k

Mostly not dyinmg

djsmiley2k

21:43

woooooo this game is kinda beautiful

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Bound will help you dance away your childhood trauma :)

djsmiley2k

my childhood trauma goes far deeper -_-

Mokubai

22:25

@FML did. And still does. And I bloody hate it.

I swear, if I ever meet the person who came up with the damnable "Link Disambiguation Popup" on Android then I will not be held accountable for my actions because that thing is seriously rage inducing.

I hate it with the firey passion of a billion hypernovas.

When I become Supreme Benevolent Dictator that person shall be hunted down and given a choice. Remove that abomination or see just how "benevolent" I can be.

I'll have them spend 5 years writing games for Adobe Flash in Visual Basic, and every mouse click or keyboard event will have that signature "are you sure that's what you meant to click?" popup.

And on their final day of benevolence I'll tell them that we banned Adobe Flash for being a risk to public health 5 years ago.

bwDraco

23:14

> NOTICE: The output of this device is not purely sinusoidal. It has a nominal total voltage harmonic distortion of 50 percent, with the nominal value of the largest single voltage harmonic of 30 percent at 25 percent of rated load.

Does this sound familiar?

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