Root Access

Journeyman Geek

00:00

@Matthew some hardware won't boot without a video out of some sort.

jrh

... I'll have to check at work. My personal laptop only has 1 wifi card.

Bob

@jrh lol. that's more or less the opposite of my current situation :P

at work where I don't have wifi at all

I'll have the internal card + a usb one (if I can find it...) at home

@jrh I get the vague feeling I've done this before and it's worked

could be misremembering though

jrh

I have a feeling I've seen this work too, it might just have been right clicking on the adapter and connecting but I thought I tried that already, though what I might have tried was right clicking on the network in the wifi thing that pops up instead of right clicking on the adapter.

Bob

@bwDraco ehsanakhgari.org/blog/2017-09-21/…

Matthew

@JourneymanGeek so I wouldn't be able to utilize it as a server in some cases?

What would be some hardware that may have an issue?

Journeyman Geek

00:05

@Matthew in most cases if its consumer hardware

most servers come with some flavour of out of band management that allows it

bwDraco

@Bob Loading one page now uses up to 50% of my 4C/8T processor \o/

Bob

@JourneymanGeek most consumer hardware doesn't care either :P

@bwDraco also if you're interested mozillagfx.wordpress.com/2017/09/21/…

Journeyman Geek

@Bob heh, really?

Bob

oof, Safari is an outlier in number of DOM vulns found via fuzzing: googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2017/09/…

@JourneymanGeek all the ones I've ever tried, anyway

@JourneymanGeek wait is @Matthew talking about no graphics device at all?

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

00:12

that's a rather rare setup

Journeyman Geek

especially in this day and age

Bob

since with any mainstream Intel CPU you're guaranteed an iGPU

Journeyman Geek

but say a ryzen or threadripper.... ;p

Bob

and AFAIK all older Intel CPUs have an on-mobo GPU

same with AMD

Journeyman Geek

(Oh the irony!)

@Bob heh, my c2d does not.

bwDraco

00:14

computerworld.com/article/3189569/microsoft-windows/…

Firefox is still a bit of a power hog, despite improvements in recent versions.

(it used to be even worse, saturating entire processor cores for several seconds while rendering large pages)

Bob

huh, TIL Ryzen/AM4 boards have the ports but not the GPU

it's like the P67 fiasco all over again!

except in reverse?

bwDraco

@Bob There are A-Series APUs for AM4.

amazon.com/AMD-AD9800AUABBOX-Generation-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/…

It also needs to support Raven Ridge.

The video output isn't just there for kicks and giggles.

Bob

@bwDraco it might as well be

hm. hetzner.com/storage-box @allquixotic

bwDraco

A budget build might pair this processor with a B350 motherboard for an inexpensive eSports gaming system, with room for overclocking and future upgrades.

Bob

"room for future upgrades" is mostly irrelevant these days

most people run their computers until they die or become absolutely unbearably slow

some people will upgrade every few years, usually as a whole box

fewer people will upgrade some parts

see where I'm going? :P

it might be useful to the subset of people that might visit this chatroom

but we're very much in the minority

bwDraco

00:30

I have a very old eMachines desktop which had CPU, GPU, and PSU retrofitted.

(socket AM2, almost as old as Father's desktop)

Bob

and even then my last upgrade was for platform reasons: PCIe 3.0, DDR4, M.2, USB 3.1gen2... which generally implies both CPU and mobo get upgraded together

@bwDraco and what was the price comparison vs moving to a newer generation, keeping in mind that e.g. your old gen is stuck on DDR2?

bwDraco

Ten years young and still going!

@Bob IIRC about $80 for CPU and PSU. GPU (Radeon HD 7750) was a hand-me-down.

Bob

@bwDraco ang which year was that?

I bet more time and frustration has been wasted on slowness vs a proper upgrade

especially if you kept it on the original 2 GB of RAM

*shudder*

bwDraco

@Bob Don't have the specifics. The machine was Socket AM2 with a late-generation single-core K8 processor (Athlon 64 LE-1640).

Both systems originally shipped with 2 GB of RAM. An upgrade to 4 GB was previously installed on the eMachines system (which was called Cerberus IIRC), but the extra RAM was removed and placed in Father's desktop because I wasn't actively using it any more.

Fun fact about Cerberus: It was originally purchased solely to run Linux. I never even booted the stock Windows Vista Home Basic OS. I wiped the whole thing and put openSUSE on it.

To this day, it still has an openSUSE installation on it, but it's way out of date. I haven't turned the damn thing on in ages.

The system was originally $300 on Newegg. Just a basic, cheap system.

160 GB HDD (Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 IIRC), bottom-bin GeForce IGP.

The processor was replaced with an Athlon II X2 260 (2C/2T K10 @ 3.2 GHz; 65W). Socket AM3, but an AM3 processor works in an AM2 board. (The machine could not identify the processor, though, outputting "AMD Processor model unknown" during POST.)

Michael Frank

I turned my old Win 7 desktop on the other day... Turns out I had turned it off while it was pending updates. It proceeded to spend the next 30 minutes "Preparing to update Windows"

Bob

00:44

@bwDraco which year did you buy that

bwDraco

@Bob 2008

I don't know precisely when, though.

Bob

@bwDraco I mean the new CPU

bwDraco

@Bob I'm guessing Q3 2010. That processor was released on May 11, 2010 (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Athlon_X2_microprocessors)

Bob

@bwDraco that sounds odd, considering it was ~$65-$76 through 2012

bwDraco

Jan 14 at 1:02, by bwDraco

Looking at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Phenom_microprocessors#.22Regor.22_.28‌C2.2FC3.2C_45_nm.2C_Dual-core.29, it's hard to believe that AMD released one last revision of that K10 chip (Athlon X2 280) as recently as 2013, operating at 3.6 GHz.

@Bob I might have misspoke on the CPU price. I think we spent ~$70?

Bob

00:49

if you really got that and a PSU for $80, I'd be slightly worried about the PSU quality :P

bwDraco

Actually, the PSU was closer to $40 (and that was with a mail-in rebate).

(cheap Corsair 400W unit, replacing a generic 250W supply)

Bob

@bwDraco ah, thought you meant the two were $80 combined

bwDraco

Yeah. The details are very muddy.

Bob

that's not too bad then

that was around the time of Nehalem, IIRC

which means Sandy and Bulldozer were next year

bwDraco

As for Father's desktop... PSU (300W IIRC) and processor (K8, Athlon X2 5000+) are completely untouched. Graphics card has been replaced several times and is currently a GT 640 (Kepler GK208). Memory was upgraded to 4 GB.

We recently installed a retail copy of Windows 10 Home onto it.

This has got to be one of the oldest processors even capable of running Windows 10 in the first place.

Original 320 GB HDD is still on the system as well, with no SMART errors to my knowledge.

It's hard to believe that this system is still 100% fully operational after ten years of continuous service.

Bob

01:01

@bwDraco uh... wrong era

bwDraco

Well, that was 2005, but the reputation lingered for several years after that.

Bob

IIRC capacitor plague was mostly early 2000s... they just mostly died around 2007 :P

so new machines around 2007 would've dodged the bullet

note to self: never try xz on large datasets

root@amaterasu:~# uptime
 03:05:16 up 49 days, 19:20,  4 users,  load average: 11.77, 7.91, 4.06

wait. 4 users?

bwDraco

(link to Dell system removed by mod on my request because service tags are associated with private information if I'm not mistaken – thanks, @Seth)

I implicitly trust the regulars here, though. I just don't want it publicly visible.

I don't mind publicly posting system specs.

Journeyman Geek

01:27

I am thankful I was not drinking anything when I read this meta.stackexchange.com/a/278583/135565

Bob

@JourneymanGeek *opens link while sipping*

bwDraco

Votes are anonymous by design and "who-voted-on-what" data is protected by the Stack Exchange Privacy Policy. Please don't scrape that data. — bwDraco 1 min ago

in Ask a Super User Moderator, Jul 19 '16 at 2:27, by bwDraco

Can't say who or on what posts. That's private information. Who votes on what is protected under the Privacy Policy.

Bob

wha

0

Q: please delete this one

please delete this one please delete this one

macos

@bwDraco you do realise the post is a year old..? and that they're not scraping any private data?

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco you're taking it too seriously

Bob

at best they try to loosely guess by watching rep changes of other answers/comments on the page (note: requires the script to run continuously on a live page) and see whose rep drops. as the other answers imply, this is purely based on public data and rather inaccurate.

and two SE employees have responded already

@JourneymanGeek posted it here for us to laugh at the answer, not to berate the user ... over a post from last year -_-

Journeyman Geek

01:33

powershell. Macos. Whut?

> I am thankful I was not drinking anything when I read this

Implicitly indicates its funny

bwDraco

@Bob I may have been mistaken...

Jan 14 at 1:02, by bwDraco

Back to the eMachines desktop, it came with an Athlon 64 LE-1640 (single-core Orleans K8 @ 2.6 GHz). It was later replaced with an Athlon X2 270 (2C Regor K10 @ 3.4 GHz).

Bob

hm?

Matthew

@bob yeah the Ryzen and such doesn't have graphics, but I am running it as a server, but if the hardware doesn't like it, then I have an issue. However, I do have some spare GPU lying around that I just found.

bwDraco

I mistakenly wrote Athlon X2 260.

That means the upgrade was in 2011.

Bob

@bwDraco ah, mid-2011... would've been competing with some of the newer Pentiums then :\

IIRC you could get a CPU + board for ~$100

=> cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=1107&cmp[]=143 that would've been the 2011 comparison

bwDraco

01:46

I could have technically put a Phenom II in the machine, but the board was designed for a max TDP of 89W. Remember that this is an AM2 board; AM3 processors just happen to be backwards-compatible. The VRM might not like it if I put a 95W or (gasp) a 125W processor in it.

Michael Frank

tfw you Google for a solution to a problem you are having with some new software... and the only results that include your $product search term are from the official site. :S

Journeyman Geek

03:30

> An improvised weapon includes any object you can wield in one or two hands, such as broken glass, a table leg, a frying pan, a wagon wheel, or a dead goblin

via rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/107262/…

Bob

lol

@JourneymanGeek that's limbism, that is

bwDraco

03:45

So... my YouTube account is a Partner account. This means I am able to run ads and make money from my videos. However, I disabled monetization quite a while ago.

I haven't logged into AdSense in ages...

So, any ideas?

I'm just fiddling with the idea of re-enabling monetization and putting something up that can generate some ad revenue.

Bob

*shrug*

Michael Frank

Fail videos

Twitch Fails

Reviews of MMA fights that don't include any footage.

Unboxing videos

Hitting your brand new "smashproof" phone with a hammer.

bwDraco

@MichaelFrank ...and this idea just came up. Perhaps I could show off Astaroth once it's built?

Problem is that... I'd have to deal with monitoring my AdSense account constantly.

Sep 3 '15 at 4:18, by DragonLord

Well, my biggest fear with running ads is sabotage: somebody intentionally generating an abnormal number of clicks in an attempt to shut down the AdSense account due to excessive invalid activity.

Journeyman Geek

you don't

if they kick you off, it was happening anyway...

Facebook

Awesome Sauce!!

Thought you might wanna see that profile name when you get a chance!

Crazy huh!!

Michael Frank

04:00

member for 4 years... Nice.

Facebook

Pardon my etiquette if I handled that improperly too

Didn't mean to offend anyone

LOL just in case

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, ugh, I'll have a word if he posts. I'm still recovering from the flu.

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Member for 4 years... Probably not gonna post?

Journeyman Geek

probably.

Facebook

Ooooooo..... Get well soon!!

How you like tagging that username!!

Bob

04:05

@JourneymanGeek oof

Journeyman Geek

I'm just gonna throw that on the mod chat and let someone else deal with it

Paul Vargas

04:29

Hello to all!

Journeyman Geek

allo

Bob

04:51

13

A: Will a magnetic flashlight attached to a metal junction box cause problems?

Short answer: No. Long answer: Nnnooooooo. Serious answer: A permanent magnet, even one a thousand times stronger than the one holding your flashlight in place, placed near your home wiring but not moving has no effect on the circuit at all. A permanent magnet as small as the one holding your...

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

05:06

ok

228GiB zfs send data including a number of Windows disk images

pigz => 137GiB in 0:25:39

lbzip2 => 134GiB in 0:59:15

gzip => 137GiB in 3:15:55

pixz => 124GiB in 3:18:43

I'm planning to store the backups on a service that charges $0.005/GB/month

so pixz would save about 6.5c per month

but it takes so long I think I'd rather pay and use pigz

allquixotic

06:00

Behind the Scenes of iOS Security

►

Apple lead security guy gives a bunch of tantalizing information to an audience of crackers

Bob

07:34

halp

...so, I have a ssh connection I need to copy a huge file through. Remote end only allows scp, sftp and rsync

Journeyman Geek

throws @Bob a life preserver

and?

Bob

Unfortunately, the huge file is too huge to save to disk

Journeyman Geek

ow

Bob

so I'm trying to pipe it. except none of those commands take files from stdin.

so I'm trying to use a fifo pipe

except none of those commands seem to work with 'special' files

... soooooo I'm stuck?

Journeyman Geek

no nc?

Bob

07:39

@JourneymanGeek nope. easy solution would've been ssh cat but... yea

it's a C14 archive temp space so I'm fairly restricted

hm

lol. I'm not the first one...

3

Q: Coerce scp(1), sftp(1), or rsync(1) into transferring a named pipe

I intend to transfer full and incremental backups of my btrfs subvolumes to a tape archival service. The service exposes FTP and SSH endpoints. If I were allowed to execute arbitrary commands on the SSH endpoint, then I would do the following to perform an incremental backup: btrfs send -p $LAST...

ssh scp pipe btrfs

> If you're stuck with shell scripting, it's possible to spoof enough of the SCP protocol to transfer a file.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

spoofing scp ... with bash?!

Journeyman Geek

that is a rediculously good question

Bob

this man is insane

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

08:05

@JourneymanGeek Plus side, I've solved it. And therefore solved that guy's problem too :D

0

A: Coerce scp(1), sftp(1), or rsync(1) into transferring a named pipe

lftp 4.6.1 and newer should be able to do this: https://github.com/lavv17/lftp/issues/104 Unfortunately, the command suggested in the linked issue does not work, but a slightly-modified one does: lftp -p $port sftp://$user:$pass@$host -e "put /dev/stdin -o $filename" Due to a bug, you must pr...

Burgi

morning

rahuldottech

08:23

guys

I have this mp3 file

Which has an infinite loop in it

I am not kidding

Bob

@BenN this guy should use powershell :P unix.stackexchange.com/questions/393694/…

rahuldottech

And this is weirding me out

Bob

@rahuldottech ?

rahuldottech

@Bob I'll upload it in a while

Play it on any Bluetooth speaker thingy or any mp3 player or an old phone

and it loops automatically

Bob

uh huh

rahuldottech

08:27

The seekbar shows 6:40/3:45

Bob

you do realise most players have this handy-dandy looping function? :P

rahuldottech

@Bob Not that ^

Burgi

audits are getting easier...

rahuldottech

@Bob It doesn't stop playing even after the song is over. The seekbar shows it's complete, but instead of moving on to the next song, it repeats itself

Burgi

08:55

wtf is wrong with the world when the leader of North Korea is the one behaving rationally and measured and the PotUSA is the crazy one?

context: bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-41356836

rahuldottech

09:12

@Burgi whaaa

Burgi

basically thats him saying that he has reached his limit and if trump keeps up with the crazy talk NK will have no choice but to respond

rahuldottech

@Burgi There was a time...

When the inverse would've been true

Burgi

exactly

rahuldottech

"...if NK keeps up with the crazy talk USA will have no choice but to respond..."

tereško

09:33

The EU Suppressed a 300-Page Study That Found Piracy Doesn’t Harm Sales

4

rahuldottech

@tereško I was reading just that

Bob

10:17

when your CPU bottlenecks before the disk...

Solidak

@tereško fun stuff...
Gotta love the EU and their laws

rahuldottech

@Solidak Actually better than the rest of the world in many ways

Solidak

Netflix in Germany is worse than my grandfather's collection of Dirty Harry VCRs

@rahuldottech Totally agree. Health care and pretty much everything is better than east or west

IMHO

rahuldottech

@Solidak How so? As in, worse quality, or worse catalog, or worse speed?

Journeyman Geek

yanno what would be the best way to deal with crazy talk?

SANE TALK

"The nuclear program is too costly. We'll stop and spend the money on agricultural equipment"

Burgi

10:29

or firing trump

rahuldottech

@Burgi Impeaching trump will be no good because the next few in line are equally bad, if not worse

Solidak

@rahuldottech just worse catalog

@rahuldottech So there's this dude, Sam Harris, who made a podcast episode about that: samharris.org/podcast/item/the-path-to-impeachment

Not bad, actually

Bob

Burgi

awwwww

Bob

10:53

> Cigarettes are like squirrels: They're perfectly harmless unless you put one in your mouth and set it on fire.

rahuldottech

Okay, quick question

How do you pronounce char, the data type? How do you say it aloud?

Journeyman Geek

like when you burn something

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Like char in character or char in charcoal?

Journeyman Geek

Oddly I pronounce the datatype char as I would charcoal, and not car

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek I pronounce it as car because that's how my teacher pronounces it, and therefore so does everyone else in class...

Journeyman Geek

11:07

which is fine.

Bob

50

Q: How to pronounce the programmer's abbreviation "char"

In many programming languages, char is a type name for character values. The word character is pronounced with a [k] sound, but what about char? While trying to find the answer elsewhere, I learnt that there is an English word char which is pronounced [tʃɑ:(r)], but it has nothing to do with ch...

pronunciation abbreviations programming

I've always pronounced it char, not car

if you started talking about cars in front of me I'd have no clue what you're on about

anyway. if you want someting prescriptive, Stroustrup says it should be char

if you want to follow what people around you say, then do that

well

I just pulled a dumb

I tried to verify my backup. the SHAs didn't match

my backups are piped through an AES CBC encryption step

so... downloaded backup from remote server and summed it. compared to running the whole command again. different?

yes, different. because CBC requires a unique IV, which is generated and saved as part of the encrypted data

rahuldottech

@Bob if you're the only one saying char in a class of 35, it gets weird real quick

Journeyman Geek

Just say what people around you say

then switch when people say something else

rahuldottech

11:43

What did the Indian kid say to his mother when he left for his first day of school? Mumbai.

Avery

@rahuldottech I don't get it

rahuldottech

@Avery mum-bye

Avery

nice

rahuldottech

Mumbai

Mumbai (; also known as Bombay, the official name until 1995) is the capital city of the Indian state of Maharashtra. It is the most populous city in India and the ninth most populous agglomeration in the world, with an estimated city population of 18.4 million. Along with the neighbouring regions of the Mumbai Metropolitan Region, it is one of the most populous urban regions in the world and the second most populous metropolitan area in India, with a population of 21.3 million as of 2016. Mumbai lies on the Konkan on the west coast of India and has a deep natural harbour. In 2008, Mumbai was named...

Journeyman Geek

the city formerly known as ~~prince~~ bombay

Granted half the big cities changed their name ;p

rahuldottech

11:59

@JourneymanGeek half?

Avery

I'd say "all"

well, historically all.

Journeyman Geek

New Delhi didn't ;p

rahuldottech

yeah lol

Journeyman Geek

In the last 20 or so years...

er.. hydrabad didn't?

rahuldottech

Bombay -> Mumbai
Madras -> Chennai
Calcutta -> Kolkata
Bangalore -> Bengaluru

Journeyman Geek

12:01

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kozhikode comes to mind

oooh

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Oh, I didn't know that got renamed

Journeyman Geek

random clickbaity list with unwanted notification request ahoy! scoopwhoop.com/news/whats-in-a-name/#.09nmz7xyt

scratch that

Renaming of cities in India

The renaming of cities in India started in 1947 following the end of the British imperial period. Several changes were politically controversial, and not all proposed changes were implemented. Each had to be approved by the central government in New Delhi. The renaming of states and territories in India has also taken place, but until recently with actual substantial name changes in both local language and in English such as the old British state name of Travancore-Cochin to Kerala (1956). The most notable recent exceptions are Indian English spelling-changes of Orissa to Odisha (March 2011) and...

Wikipedia to the rescue!

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Kanpur was Cawnpore? 0_0

Journeyman Geek

> Porto Novo to Parangipettai

rahuldottech

> Trivandrum to Thiruvananthapuram

I knew about this

Journeyman Geek

12:07

"New Port" to what basically translates literally to "Pumpkinville"

with Pumpkin being a derogatory term for white folk .-.

jrh

12:49

@Bob Just tried it, on my work laptop strangely enough only the first wifi card in the adapters list offers a "connect" option.

Bob

@jrh hm. lemme ... find my usb adapter

@jrh worksforme

@jrh do you have that dropdown menu?

you select the adapter then connect to a network with that adapter

djsmiley2k

13:11

I'm alive and hgome \o/

Burgi

13:30

@rahuldottech when did they rename bangalore?

GwenKillerby

hello all

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi Bengaluru (Kannada: ಬೆಂಗಳೂರು), from Bangalore, respelled in 2007 [12]

GwenKillerby

i ran a chkdsk /f /x/ /r, based on this result, what should I do next to repair this? an sfc/scannow or a *Dism /Online /Cleanup-Image /RestoreHealth ?

Burgi

@GwenKillerby this is the perfect question for the main site

GwenKillerby

takes too long

Journeyman Geek

13:37

Dosen't mean you should ask it here ;)

Burgi

unlucky

Journeyman Geek

Asking on the main site helps others with the same issue, and helps people get sweet sweet reputation.

Chat's for important things, like indian place names...

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek seems like a backhanded way of making sure the people that own the sign making factories get rich

GwenKillerby

bang a lot?

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi oh god. That's not the worst one.

GwenKillerby

13:38

raw deal

Burgi

that was probably a little too far, sorry

GwenKillerby

@burgi tit for tat relations are usually not the best

Journeyman Geek

@GwenKillerby not there, they spend too much time coding.

@GwenKillerby we keep stuff worksafe here please, we have teenagers.

Consider that a warning.

GwenKillerby

i'm a tee!

can we say "sexual favors" or is that too risky

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi basically the brits went around mangling indian placenames as they went around looting and pillaging vocabulary

Took a little whole post independance to work things out

Burgi

13:42

@JourneymanGeek well you guys should have had a flag ;)

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek are you from Bangalore?

always confused that with Bangor, btw

Journeyman Geek

Now the funniest one, which I can't find was a "Hamilton's Bridge" which was mispronounced "Abatan varavathi", and was then translated to "Barber's bridge"

Burgi

> Total: £394.80 GBP

Journeyman Geek

@GwenKillerby One's a dreary City you don't want to vacation in. The other's in the UK

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek you should make a website of these names

Burgi

13:43

cost of domain renewals for a year >.<

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek Bangor, Maine?

Journeyman Geek

@GwenKillerby I linked wikipedia

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek there are two cities called Bangor

Journeyman Geek

@GwenKillerby OH.

Bangor, Gwynedd

Bangor (English: ; Welsh: [ˈbaŋɡɔr]) is a city in Gwynedd unitary authority, north west Wales, and one of the smallest cities in the United Kingdom. It is the oldest city in Wales. Historically in Caernarfonshire, it is a university city with a population of 18,808 at the 2011 census, including around 10,500 students at Bangor University and including Pentir community. It is one of only six places classed as a city in Wales, although it is only the 25th-largest urban area by population. According to the 2001 census, 46.6% of the non-student resident population speak Welsh, which is low for Gwynedd...

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek pretty sure Stephen King will be surprised to learn he's been living in Wales this whole time! Does explain a lot, though.

Journeyman Geek

13:44

Oh yes, Steven King's from Bangor Maine yes?

Burgi

Bangor, County Down

Bangor (from Irish: Beannchar [ˈbʲaːn̪ˠəxaɾˠ]) is a large town in County Down, Northern Ireland. It is a seaside resort on the southern side of Belfast Lough and within the Belfast Metropolitan Area. In 2007 the town was voted by UTV viewers as the most desirable place to live in Northern Ireland. It functions as a commuter town for the Greater Belfast area, which it is linked to by the A2 road and a direct railway line, usually known as the Bangor Line. Bangor is situated 13.6 miles (22 km) east from the heart of Belfast, not far from George Best Belfast City Airport. Bangor is part of the North...

Journeyman Geek

Which is the one that people joke about going holiday to @Burgi?

I'm not that british.

Burgi

the welsh one

Journeyman Geek

ah ok.

UNRELATEDLY

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek how is bangalore a dreary place? it sounds exotic

Journeyman Geek

13:45

ISLE OF DOGS | Official Trailer | FOX Searchlight

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THIS LOOKS FANTASTIC.

@GwenKillerby so many better places!

Burgi

@GwenKillerby its full of call centres

Journeyman Geek

How about Exotic UDAGAMANGALAM!

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek that sounds like someone choked on big pingpong balls

or gurgled with them

Journeyman Geek

@GwenKillerby mercifully known as ooty.

Burgi

outfit of the year?

GwenKillerby

13:48

@JourneymanGeek even by the locals?

Journeyman Geek

especially by the locals

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek are you an Indian living in India, Bangalore?

Journeyman Geek

~~vaguely~~ legally no, no and no. In that order.

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek you're a double blooder?

or triple

jrh

@Bob I haven't found anything like that on Win7

Burgi

13:50

he is a dog, are you being speciest?

GwenKillerby

@Burgi yes, im specie-ist, I hate humans

Journeyman Geek

Actually legally no is accurate and funnier

GwenKillerby

and computers

Journeyman Geek

Since my ID says ~~Cylon~~ Ceylonese.

Bob

@jrh yea, but your question asked about "any" version of windows :P

wouldn't be surprised if it was added in 8

jrh

13:51

fair enough. It's cool to know it's in Win10 at least

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek how do you get a strike thru effect here

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek i fracking knew it!

@GwenKillerby ~~magic~~

Journeyman Geek

@GwenKillerby ---like this---

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek so "fracking" is allowed but abbreviation for oral happy endings, not?

Journeyman Geek

Also there's a help option on the bottom right of your screen

GwenKillerby

13:53

~~oh noes~~

Journeyman Geek

@GwenKillerby er. Yes. Cause we're not in BSG-land

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek hate to tell you, but FRACKING has definitely left the BSG building

Burgi

@GwenKillerby its also a method for mining natural gas trapped in shale

Journeyman Geek

... Spaceship ...

@Burgi or oil trapped in shale

GwenKillerby

@Burgi clearly from context, we weren't talking about new ways to global suicide ....

Burgi

13:55

i think they are only using it for gas here

afk, deployment

GwenKillerby

@Burgi if you frack well and hard, it DOES tend to produce some "GAS", yes

Journeyman Geek

SO do beans.

GwenKillerby

@JourneymanGeek if you don't have that experience, fracking is not going well for you guys

Journeyman Geek

We don't frack in singapore. We buy other people's crude, refine it, and sell it back for profit ;p

GwenKillerby

@Burgi that whole tantric thing would kill gas by fracking, i guess

@je

@JourneymanGeek Singapore, cos just now i learned it has even more expensive HC than US

Journeyman Geek

13:59

Small country, definately not part of china last I checked. Has been kicked out of another country at least once.

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