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Avery

15:08

@rahuldottech this is what I have, though I paid less (3.59usd, and when I bought only 20cm was available)

actually IDK if this is 20cm

nope seems more like ~25cm

I should get a proper measuring thingy

Circus Cat

I have one strapped to the lid of my laptop, see picture from yesterday

Avery

actually the method I used was quite open to bad data so... off to gimp and pixel sizing!

Bob

@Avery I have basically the same thing, 'cept from Amazon :P

amazon.com/StarTech-SATA-Drive-Adapter-Cable/dp/B00HJZJI84

Costs more, but... less chance of dodgy :P

Avery

eh, it works.

Bob

@Avery I've had enough trouble with these kinds of thing that I'd make a distinction between "seems to work" and "works reliably over sustained transfers"

Avery

15:17

I used it for extended periods of big data transfers as a drive I own is dying and it works perfectly

Bob

ya, not saying it definitely won't, but just not my first port of call :P

the first thing they sacrifice is QC. I remember buying a few USB cables, which worked fine. bought more from the same seller, and one out of ten worked at all

if the price difference is greater, though...

*grumbles about $50 adapters locally*

actually, speaking of. how long does shipping usually take for you, @Avery?

Avery

actually I checked

by checked I mean this

I have a 20cm one, yeah, at least the cable part.

With the heads it does come to 35cm tho

@Bob avg 14 days after shipping for china post registered mail

avg 20 for china post air mail

Bob

@Avery business days?

Avery

no

it depends on seller though

Bob

mhm

I've seen anywhere from 2 weeks to 5 weeks

then there was that outlier at 3 months...

Avery

15:25

i've had packages that took 40+ days to arrive with china post registered mail but also had orders that arrive in 6 days with china post registered mail

Checking reviews help.

rahuldottech

> An iPhone is a smart purchase because you know you’ll get excellent hardware that won’t slow down in years, you know you’ll get excellent software that will be supported for years, you know you’ll get excellent customer service that will help you for years, and you know that iPhone you bought will retain its value for many years. iPhone’s hold their value very well and they sell easily. You can get quite a chunk of change back if you ever choose to sell your iPhone in the future. Android phones in comparison do not hold their value well, they depreciate in value quickly and are more harde…

I've got to admit, there's at least some truth to this

Avery

@rahuldottech what if I enjoy fighting with my device

Bob

@rahuldottech I... don't buy devices to sell.

rahuldottech

@Avery For whatever reason, the majority of the population does not

Bob

It's not even a consideration.

rahuldottech

15:26

@Bob I don't either

I'm talking about the other bit

> An iPhone is a smart purchase because you know you’ll get excellent hardware that won’t slow down in years, you know you’ll get excellent software that will be supported for years, you know you’ll get excellent customer service that will help you for years, and you know that iPhone you bought will retain its value for many years.

Avery

well

iPhones do slow down

rahuldottech

Android phones rarely ever last more than two years

Avery

and software is not really excellent

rahuldottech

@Avery It isn't for us geeks

Avery

it's very restrictive

rahuldottech

15:28

It is pretty darn good enough for the general public

Avery

and it doesn't make sense for non-geeks

rahuldottech

@Avery Oh, it does

Avery

if all you do is get online and send snaps and whatsapp and instagram and facebook then you don't need a phone that costs 2000usd

Bob

@rahuldottech ...rarely ever?

how so?

Avery

and good luck going outside with your upper class friends while having an old iphone as it'll lose the coolness factor the moment next one is announced

rahuldottech

15:29

@Bob Especially the mid-range ones

They don't. No updates, no crash fixes

Bob

@rahuldottech soooo. you're comparing the longevity of a mid-range android phone to a mid-range iphone, right?

ohwait.

rahuldottech

@Bob No

What I'm saying is

Avery

OPO is still maintained

and it is years old

and it was a high end phone

it just comes down to knowing what phone to buy

rahuldottech

As far as non-geeks are concerned, apple is wayyy more streamlined

Oh, got a new iPhone? Log in to iCloud and BAM, everything is there already

Bob

@Avery tbf it's not even that, pick any major brand's flagship (~ iphone price range) and it's typically fairly well supported these days

Avery

15:30

yeah

Bob

samsung, sony, lg, ...

Avery

also like

rahuldottech

@Bob Yeah, except when it explodes. That kind of stuff doesn't inspire confidence in the general public.

Avery

there's no android flagships that cost upwards of 2000usd

(I'm saying 2000usd because that's what iphone x will cost in turkey, TY taxes)

Bob

@rahuldottech yes, except when there's a battery defect that has absolutely nothing to do with the phone manufacturer nor the operating system

rahuldottech

15:31

@Bob We get that. Good luck explaining that to the public. When they get a phone, they expect it to work reliably. And who the hell can blame them?

Bob

@Avery eh, note8 is up there

Avery

oh and

let's not do us/theming please

@Bob it's 500usd I think

Bob

@rahuldottech funny thing about that. s/icloud/google/

@Avery 1500aud rrp here

I think iphone x was supposed to be similar?

Avery

AUD is closer to CAD than it is to USD

1500 aud is 1201usd

Bob

@Avery well, 900-950usd msrp apparently

Avery

15:33

still much less than what iphone x will cost here

ps @rahuldottech check this out

Bob

iphone x is 1500-1800 (256gb) rrp in aus

Avery

yay for live numbers

Bob

granted, there is no >64gb note8

rahuldottech

@Avery whatisthat

Bob

which is odd... you'd think they'd be happy to charge more for a minor storage upgrade :P

Avery

15:35

@rahuldottech I have a discord bot called avebot

I used to have this bland site for reasons, but I added live stats coming directly from the bot yesterday

it's p cool imo

rahuldottech

@Avery technically, it should be "... x people on y servers..."

Bob

@Avery how much does the note8 cost over there, anyway?

Avery

@rahuldottech aaaaaa

allquixotic

High Sierra GM!

Avery

4999try

iphone x costs 6999try

allquixotic

15:36

@Avery just get the iPhone 8 Plus :P that's what I'm doing

the X is overpriced and not even that good (lots of breaking changes, no touch ID, bad UX)

Bob

@Avery oof, that's a big difference

@allquixotic oh yea, did you see above - I got the 960 installed :D

Avery

@allquixotic why even buy an iphone, just get an OP or pixel or smth

allquixotic

@Bob Samsung 960 Pro?

Bob

not that it affects everyday perf much, but moving away from TLC for my main drive is nice

allquixotic

nice

Bob

15:38

@allquixotic yup

yesterday, by Bob

Journeyman Geek

@Avery heh, he actually likes apple gear ;)

Bob

probably the best I'll see, short of Optane :P

Avery

I mean

I see no reason to go with 8

when 7 looks pmuch the same and 6 does too buy also has a headphone jack

and like, it's a phone. I don't need all the crazy power 7 or 8 has, hell, I don't even need 6's all processing power tbh.

Bob

tbh I spend a lot more time on my phone than on my pc

Avery

I do too, especially on schooldays

but it's not like I can run an IDE on a phone

Bob

15:42

oh yea, @allquixotic, did you have a desktop mac?

rahuldottech

@Avery also, AveBot has handled

Avery

I WROTE THOSE AT 4AM

rahuldottech

And it's probably better if you replace "people" with "users"

allquixotic

@Bob the last time I had a desktop mac was a Core 2 Mac Mini with 4 GB of RAM and a 500 GB HDD, at a time when Core 2 was the latest available Mac Mini (so, 2010?)

rahuldottech

@Avery lol, it's okayy

allquixotic

15:44

I briefly had a 15" MBP with Touchbar and Radeon Pro 460, but I returned that for a full refund

Bob

@rahuldottech soooooo users are not people? :D

3

^ star that pls

5

allquixotic

the only Mac I have is a 13" Skylake MBP with Touchbar, Core i7-6567U

rahuldottech

@Avery Alsoo (last one, I swear) "answered to z commands"

allquixotic

oh and my mom has a 13" Broadwell MBP without Touchbar, Core i5-something (Iris graphics)

rahuldottech

@Bob No, but it sounds weird in the context

Bob

15:45

@allquixotic oh, you did end up on a touchbar one?

how's that working out for you?

Avery

@rahuldottech refresh

rahuldottech

@Avery perfect :D

allquixotic

@Bob Yes, I bought the Touchbar 13" not long after it came out, then hesitated a long time (way after the point of no returns), got the 15" thinking I would upgrade to that, then got pissed off that my brand new 15" got superceded in the market with Kaby Lake MBPs and returned it :D

Bob

I wonder if said touchbar might've been more effective above/under the screen (vertical) rather than above the keyboard (horizontal)

rahuldottech

@Avery "Licensed under MIT" :P

allquixotic

15:46

I don't especially like the touchbar, but it works fine, and it's pretty convenient for changing volume and screen brightness, but is it better than keys? meh

Avery

@rahuldottech you know what? I'm giving you repo access

allquixotic

the only fun thing I did with it was run nyan cat on it

Bob

@allquixotic ... ... I suddenly had an impulse to buy a macbook just for that

allquixotic

I'd say the touchbar is a wash, but the 6567U is quite good, and basically identical (at least in GPU perf) to the 7567U Kaby Lake model, so I'm basically using the best available Intel GPU

rahuldottech

@Avery haha, I'll take a look and fix all the english-y stuff after exams

allquixotic

15:48

it runs SWTOR in a Parallels VM on low detail at 1440x900 at around 50 FPS

60 FPS native Windows

Bob

@allquixotic I rather like touchscreens on modern laptops

Avery

@rahuldottech github.com/aveao/AveBotSite/invitations

Bob

but the fingerprints do get annoying

Avery

yeah

screens get dirty

Bob

hm. I should see if there's oleophobic sprays

@allquixotic gaming in a vm? risky :P

allquixotic

15:49

@Bob risky?

@Bob that would be a horrible thing to spray on a cat; they would never be able to get their fur to feel just right again

(just had that random thought)

Bob

@allquixotic well, not in terms of damage or anything. just... idk

allquixotic

@Bob ?

Bob

oof, $15 for 3ml of coating liquid

@allquixotic a bit of a weird thing to try, maybe :P

then again, I've not tried VM gaming since c2d ~2010

allquixotic

@Bob they optimized the hell out of it in Parallels on Mac

somehow the overhead is much lower than I'd expect

Bob

16:11

@allquixotic androidauthority.com/…

soooo. they're still at it :P

allquixotic

@Bob I no longer care :D

I'm an AT&T wireless user (1 phone per household member + 1 backup/emergency hotspot), no Verizon Wireless, and FiOS for all home internet

Bob

@allquixotic oh, you dropped verizon wireless?

guess that makes sense, what with the fibre connection :P

Circus Cat

Alright so I shredded that part of my laptop... And it's actually hard to tell.

allquixotic

16:27

@Bob yeah, those grandfathered UDPs don't have much value anyway, they're basically 100 GB/month capped plans and now there are true unlimited plans

*which you won't get DC'ed from as long as you don't roam too much

Bob

I just bought $50 of oleophobic coatings

*waits a month*

allquixotic

@Bob they have medicines for oleophobia, you know

Bob

@allquixotic or watch 4k video, apparently

Circus Cat

@Bob nice

Bob

@allquixotic they have 480p-only and 720p-maybe-1080p on the unlimited plans now

Circus Cat

16:29

They don't work. I bought a few dozen dollars worth before.

allquixotic

yea

Bob

@allquixotic detergent? :P

@CircusCat I feel like there's better ways to mutilate your laptop without creating a lap mutilation hazard

Circus Cat

I just now regularly replace shitty bad fitting screen protectors on my S7 to get a consistent oleophobic coating

allquixotic

oleophobia must suck if you live in a town where most jobs are in the oil refining industry

Bob

@CircusCat welp. guess I'll find out for myself soon :P

Circus Cat

16:30

@Bob I'm away from my normal homeless home so no access to my usual tools

allquixotic

it's like being arachnophobic and living in a town where most jobs involve letting spiders crawl over you

Circus Cat

@Bob which brand did you buy?

Bob

@CircusCat Edge. Curved Edge. Screen protector? What screen protector? :(

Circus Cat

I mean it works it just lasts like 5 days before it wears off again.

Bob

@CircusCat Uhh... Proteger and Fusso.

Circus Cat

16:31

@Bob lol even the flat ones are bad.

Bob

@CircusCat The glass ones worked pretty well on my G4, though some cheaper ones failed on the slight screen curve

Circus Cat

Bob

oof

Circus Cat

The only ones I've found that fit the curve well are ones with shitty tape adhesive and gluing them with LOCA works but is a bitch to remove.

Bob

@allquixotic So, Australia? :P

allquixotic

16:32

@Bob lol

Bob

@CircusCat Which brand did you use?

Circus Cat

@Bob ah I used the Fusso stuff. Was going to try a different cheaper no name brand off eBay but just switched to screen protectors instead

Bob

The only three I could find were Proteger (JA), Fusso (JA) and Dynaflo (US)

@CircusCat I'm buying both off eBay :P

No one seems to sell the Dynaflo ones anymore :\

Circus Cat

Best test for oleophobic coating effectiveness... Spray bottle of water or IPA

Bob

Fusso is on Amazon. Proteger is eBay only.

@CircusCat Water, yes. Apparently IPA removes the coating :\

But yea I just tested mine (no extra coating over 1.5yr old stock) with water and it completely failed, so I'm buying some.

allquixotic

16:34

actually I haven't literally canceled my VZW yet, I'm on hold with them now to recover my password, then I'll port over a number to AT&T, then cancel

Circus Cat

@Bob not the original stuff

Bob

@CircusCat Oh, a local company still sells Dynaflo ones... might try that later if the others fail.

Circus Cat

The coating that comes on factory fitted screens and oleophobic screen protectors isn't removed by IPA. I dunno about the coat it yourself stuff.

Just finding proper oleophobic screen protectors is a PITA as it is. Tried three different types on my Z5C, none have a proper costing. 3/4 on my S7 do though and 3/3 on my S4 did.

The Estuff Titanshield is the best I've found so far for oleophobic coating quality but it's expensive and hard to get hold of and the wrong type.

Urgh. And Opengur is broken.

Bob

@CircusCat Yea, I think it shouldn't be, but manufacturers tend to recommend against using IPA because of that coating.

My Xperia still has most of its coating.

Well, water is beading on it anyway.

Circus Cat

@Bob interesting. Never seen a manufacturer mention it myself.

Bob

16:44

@CircusCat Apple's the most well-known example.

Circus Cat

@Bob I just use IPA because I still have a spray bottle of IPA I bought in Australia. I don't have a water spray bottle.

Bob

lol

Circus Cat

@Bob well that explains it. I never buy anything apple.

Bob

@CircusCat I haven't really IPA'd my screen, but I use it often to dry out the USB port after water accidents.

Using it on the screen a bit more now though, since wiping doesn't take off oil anymore

not that it matters; I think my coating is all gone now

Circus Cat

@Bob I tend to find it lasts a few months on phones personally.

Bob

16:46

@CircusCat yea I'm well past that point

I'm also planning to put some on my glasses :P

Circus Cat

That's on a good phone screen. And this is on a shitty lying about having an oleophobic coating screen protector:

@Bob oh I hadn't thought of that. But good idea. I usually get my glasses done with the coating at the factory but I'm missing it on one pair.

Bob

@CircusCat I'm not sure my normal pair has it... never asked

probably not considering the smudges :P

Circus Cat

And that's on the cheap two for £1 screen protector on my S7. It's there, but inconsistent. Still works though.

It's so satisfying having a really good oleophobic coating in the shower, tilt the phone slightly and it's like it's got magical water repellent.

Water just bounced off it like there's a force field or something.

Bob

@CircusCat forums.macrumors.com/threads/…

so looks like they agree with you about fusso wearing off

and the proteger one is likely a wash

bleh

maybe I should try the dynaflo?

how hard can it be to get a coating

Boris_yo

17:03

Where's Psychogeek?

Halloey?

Circus Cat

@Bob interesting. Never actually checked that many reviews but glad to see I'm not alone.

Laptop screens I'd expect to wear a lot more slowly than phone screens anyway (it doesn't get rubbed against shite in your pocket 16 hours a day after all) and the same with glasses.

Boris_yo

@CircusCat What happened with coating?

Circus Cat

I wonder what happens if you heat treat it yourself

@Boris_yo it never existed

Boris_yo

@CircusCat On my old Nexus 4 I kept factory screen protector. Not really protector I guess but something that you are supposed to get rid of and replace with real screen protector. After year or two using smartphone it had same thing as your on photo.

I was reluctant to order new screen protector and mess with application so I left factory one on.

Anyone familiar with Meh and what they are selling?

Avery

17:20

> Step 3: You are drunk and do not drive home If you can sleep in their unused bedding, please politely ask your master. Thank you very much for your host

seems shaky

"ask your master" seems like uh

I won't comment on it.

Circus Cat

Right so chopped up my laptop to fit a bigger drive in. Bit of a squeeze with the caddy, it fits but compresses to much for comfort, so I just blu-tacked the drive into the bay. Hope it doesn't come loose...

Seems like a bit to much space without the caddy

DavidPostill

17:40

@rahuldottech I suppose I'm lucky then. Mine is at least 3 1/2.

Bob

@DavidPostill that was an... interesting... message out of context

DavidPostill

@Bob lol

Faheem Mitha

I was wondering whether to get a smart tv. It's not for me - I just use my computer. It's for my room rental.

I'm not sure if it's on topic on SU, but I've seen some questions about this.

If anyone here is knowledgeable on the topic, I'd be glad to learn about the pros and cons.

Avery

It's not on topic as it's opinion based

Faheem Mitha

@Avery No, not that actual question. I meant the topic of smart TVs.

DavidPostill

17:52

@FaheemMitha Smart TVs are not really on topic (unless it is connected to your computer)

Faheem Mitha

@DavidPostill Ok.

Well, can I still ask about them here?

DavidPostill

@FaheemMitha You can, whether anyone here can answer is another matter ...

Avery

What's your question?

Faheem Mitha

@Avery Whether it's a good idea to buy a smart TV.

Avery

opinion based

off topic

Faheem Mitha

17:54

I don't really know anything about the technology.

Avery

well I don't watch tv so

allquixotic

a guy I know who works in a Sprint call center said they had 960,000 requests to preorder the iPhone X on the day it was announced, and they are still experiencing very long hold times for chat and phone due to so many people calling

Faheem Mitha

I use my computer to watch TV. But for a room rental, a TV is expected. I suppose I could put an actual computer in there, and it wouldn't cost much more.

allquixotic

unrelatedly, AT&T's chat system blocks SSNs typed as 123-45-6789 from the representative seeing them, but you can omit the dashes and it works ... wtf

Circus Cat

lol

@allquixotic TBH the iPhone X is the first iPhone I'd actually be interested in buying

Boris_yo

17:58

@allquixotic This is madness...

@FaheemMitha Smart TV is a convenience. You can watch YouTube on it, surf on the internet and mirror your smartphone/tablet to it.

Faheem Mitha

@Boris_yo So, sort of like a tv with a browser included?

Boris_yo

My bro has LG Smart TV with not regular remote. It has accelerometer or gyroscope or whatever that senses your hand position and acts as a pointer. Very fast to navigate and select what you need.

Faheem Mitha

Sounds possibly abusable, if used for short term rentals. Is it easy to wipe?

I suppose there is a hard drive in there.

Boris_yo

No hard drive. No need to wipe.

Faheem Mitha

@Boris_yo Wow. That does sound handy.

@Boris_yo So no persistent storage?

Boris_yo

18:01

Yes, make sure you get that remote. Makes life easier.

I didn't check thoroughly. I don't think there is a storage.

Faheem Mitha

@Boris_yo ok.

@Boris_yo Does that remote have a name?

Boris_yo

All these smart TVs appear to accelerate picture. The playback is very smooth as if those TVs turn 30 framers per second play into 60 frames per second.

Faheem Mitha

@Boris_yo Interesting.

Boris_yo

@FaheemMitha lg.com/us/magic-remote

The one I used is first on the left.

Faheem Mitha

@Boris_yo Thank you.

Boris_yo

18:04

It's like Nintendo WII nunchucks...

You move and cursor moves.

Faheem Mitha

@Boris_yo No idea what that is.

Boris_yo

I mean you move hand and cursor moves that way.

Faheem Mitha

A video game, no doubt.

@Boris_yo ok

allquixotic

18:22

> We are currently experiencing higher than normal call volumes.

The 24/7 status of all cellular providers in the US for at least 1 week after a juicy new iPhone is released

Bob

18:49

@allquixotic IME it's the 24/365 status

Boris_yo

There's no end to new smartphones, hardware... Consumerism is an ongoing phase where products must be pumped continuously to keep it up and video game developers must be pushing boundaries and raising the bar for hardware (smartphones) to maintain demand. Are software developers and hardware makers in cahoots? Who knows...

allquixotic

@Bob nah; I did several phone transactions with Verizon and AT&T mid-year (May? June?) and never got that

@Boris_yo Yes, they definitely are in "cahoots" -- software developers are always writing new software that just barely fits within the performance profile of the latest hardware to justify buying new hardware (and software) :)

This is called change; without it, we'd all be using desktop systems with 360 KB of RAM with no laptops or smartphones

##wiki change

Change

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Boris_yo

19:05

@allquixotic Yeah but game developers could have games optimized today that would still run okay on older hardware?

Or on specs lower than they advertise for.

allquixotic

19:49

@Boris_yo some games are like that

bwDraco

20:41

roar

allquixotic

20:57

soar

Ramhound

sour

Ben N

soup

No wait I messed it up

pour

allquixotic

@BenN my automated deploy scripts are in powershell :D

Ben N

:D

allquixotic

I use remoting

Ben N

21:01

Very nice!

allquixotic

21:24

basically my powershell scripts involve: mvn package, then use remoting to copy some WAR and EAR files around to different servers, then net stop / net start some Windows Services (WebSphere Liberty)

each step is optional (oh, also includes an optional git commit with an Automated build commit message :P) and I get to decide which servers to push to, too

I should probably write one powershell script with command line options, but instead I wrote several top-level scripts that call a number of lower level worker scripts depending on how much needs to get done to meet the top-level goal

Ben N

You could probably merge it all into one file without much more work by just making the lower scripts into functions

allquixotic

hmm

Ben N

You could specify whether to do certain tasks with switch parameters

As an added bonus of using a param block, you get tab completion on your script file

allquixotic

hey, I don't actually know this (I should), but on a Windows Server that's usually headless unless I'm RDP'ed in, when I create a new remoting session as my logged-in user (it uses SSO to automatically authenticate me as my user account), does it run my commands in a session with GUI interactivity, or does it use session 0 or headless something?

and does the behavior change depending on whether I'm currently RDP'ed into the remote server or not?

Ben N

I don't actually know, but I would speculate that it creates a new session (possibly as the BATCH type?) and runs some process there

I'm pretty sure the behavior would not change based on the RDP state

allquixotic

21:30

ahh

session ID used, and whether GUI interactivity is allowed or not, makes a big difference in the design of the system I'm implementing :o

Ben N

Alternatively it might not create a new session at all, and some service might magic a token into existence for you and spawn a new process in session 0

In any case, I would suggest not relying on it being a GUI-enabled session

allquixotic

then I'll just have to login manually and start one of my services from the command line as a non-windows-service

Ben N

Does this program need user interaction, or does it just rely on there being a desktop for it?

electronbeam

23:13

ayy

bwDraco

23:38

AARGH, cereal is getting so expensive!

We don't usually buy cereal, but one box we bought (Kellogg's Raisin Bran Crunch Apple Strawberry) had a regular price of $4.99 for 14.5 oz.

Now, this is a premium cereal, but I really don't like the odd box size.

Journeyman Geek

@FaheemMitha apparently quite a lot of them suck. Also, tend to monitor what you do... so do your homework first.

Personally I just stuck a spare NUC with openelec on our TV

bwDraco

If they kept the old box sizes of, say, 18 to 20 ounces, the price would be untenably high. I would not pay $6.99 for a box of cereal even if the box contained more product than what we see today.

Aug 25 '15 at 23:08, by DragonLord

Keeping an old, large package size and raising the price instead of shrinking it and keeping the same price (as is common practice) would eventually lead to very high prices that would turn all but the wealthiest consumers away ($10 cereal box, anyone?).

Your thoughts?

At the far high end, Kashi cereals are sold in boxes as small as 9.5 oz yet can cost almost $5 a box.

Most Americans cannot pay $10 for a box of cereal, hence the shrinking box sizes.

I don't really like the way food prices are going.

It is so hard just to make ends meet these days...

GwenKillerby

23:56

Hello all

I see it's the usual suspects ...;)

bwDraco

Hello

GwenKillerby

Do you know anything about making previously bootable drives boot again?

oh and about the cereals: they can be shrinking sizes to fight obesity and the content doesn't really determine the price. As with EVERYTHING, it's labor costs that are the biggest piece of the costpie.

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