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@bwDraco There's a linked question about someone needing hot milk in an office...
@MichaelFrank "Download our app to check if you downloaded random apps"
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00:11
Blech. Bluedroid is affected independently of BlueZ
welp.
Guess this isn't my phone anymore
was it ever? ;p
00:29
7 hours later I'm only now done configuring my rpi
but yeah everything is done
deluge is working, starts at boot. pihole is working (mostly, the webui is kinda broken but most features are fine), starts at boot. Syncthing is working (except it's stuck at 6% for this one sync ugh), starts at boot.
this is why I love arch.
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@Avery not sure if sarcasm
7 hours ago, by Avery
then again I have some masochistic tendencies so
tech pain is enjoyable.
well, provided that I can get through the pain
01:07
Who here follows soccer (association football)?
@bwDraco I do.
There was a bit of a disputed call in the game I covered today and I need your opinion. Somebody got ejected for DOGSO and I'm a bit confused as to what happened.
Hold on while I find the relevant part of the YouTube stream...
I've got no idea what DOGSO is...
>_> A japanese dollar store for dogs? @Bob ^ ;p
@MichaelFrank Denying an obvious goal-scoring opportunity, a so-called "professional foul". Purposely handling the ball when the offense has a clear shot at the goal.
@bwDraco Yea, so handling the ball when you're not a keeper to save a goal etc.
@MichaelFrank Or a goalkeeper, if outside the penalty area.
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@JourneymanGeek lol
At 1:31:50. Watch in slow motion - was the goalkeeper outside the box when his hands made contact with the ball?
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goddamn indian insurance companies
01:20
Youtube here is trying to show it to me in 144p only... So it's a bit blurry. It looks like he's pretty close to the line, so it's probably a call that could've gone either way.
@Bob is this insurance for indians, or against them?
Are they not doing the needful sir?
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@JourneymanGeek the former, while I think I might need the latter
they're spamming me with emails asking me to log in
to an account I did not create
because someone used an address on one of my domains
Sure its not phishing?
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01:25
and I've already sent them a support ticket telling them, but they ... just closed the ticket the next day. with no response.
best part? their first email included the username and password
@JourneymanGeek sure, phishing with the username and password they sent me...
globalinsurance.co.in, which looks semi-legitimate if totally braindead
@bwDraco I watched the reply a couple of times in 0.5x and 0.25x speed. It looks like he's standing either on or just over the line.
If he's over, it's a handball and the decision was correct.
It did look like the ball was just outside the penalty area but it's not exactly clear. The stream isn't all that great because the weather was crap.
Watch his feet, that's the important part.
Actually... I'm wrong there.
It is the ball position that matters.
Either way, I doubt you could 100% tell from that camera angle.
The linesman would have had the best view assuming he was in position.
@Bob #wat
01:32
@Bob Check VirusTotal
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@bwDraco Hm?
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@bwDraco ...yes? what exactly do you expect me to do there?
@Bob Check it. Obviously.
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check what, exactly?
01:37
Virustotal.com
You can enter a URL into VirusTotal.
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and? so? therefore?
and so you might find out that the website is a virus, therefore it is indeed trying to phish you.
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again, phish me out of what? the credentials they sent me?
and I have far better indicators of the trustworthiness of a website anyway
01:42
No, but if you try and log in but the credentials don't work you might contact the Helpdesk and they might phish some personal information out of you to 'recover' the account.
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sure, sure
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the chances of some idiot entering my domain for email is far more likely
@Bob So it was you that phished someone... by accident.
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01:44
anyway, before I even bothered sending any email telling them they fucked up, I already did all the checks
<== not interested in becoming a spammer target
tip: whois data and company details (via gov registry) are far more reliable than virustotal et al
;p
log in, change the password....
watch the panic ;)
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@JourneymanGeek I was considering that. But I suspect whoever did this doesn't even know their password
looks to be randomly generated ... and emailed
maybe I should log in and order every product they have
lol
OH
It makes more sense when I realise that the way your lastname is spelled is a common indian lastname...
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@JourneymanGeek naw, the email address was originally a throwaway and has nothing to do with my name
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01:49
@JourneymanGeek though, that little tidbit does (we think) explain a lot of the telemarketers trying to sell indian services...
damn phone books
It's surprising how something like this can be the difference between a legal play and a send-off.
unrelatedly
does anyone have any idea how to rip a VCD?
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@JourneymanGeek dd? :P
(Apparently I accidentally ganked an old VCD from the baking school)
@Bob oh, to some more modern format
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wait, rip as in transcode?
VLC should do it
ffmpeg probably too, but I don't know the incantation
> Your ticket - Wrong email address - has been closed.

We hope that the ticket was resolved to your satisfaction. If you feel that the ticket should not be closed or if the ticket has not been resolved, please reply to this email.
uh huh.
01:51
OH
yeah
VLC does do transcoding
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@JourneymanGeek maybe they're ignoring the tickets cause I'm not telling them to do the needful?
meh, next stop, mark as spam + delete
and possibly find out who their mail provider is and file an abuse report. let them have fun with that.
I'm feeling particularly pissed off today.
@Bob lol @ "incantation"
"PLEASE SIR! THIS IS NOT BEING MY EMAIL ADDRESS! THIS EMAIL IS SENT IN MALIFIDY! PLEASE DO THE NEEDFUL POSTHASTE!"
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02:06
@JourneymanGeek I honestly can't remember when I last had a VCD
@Bob found this in an obsolete PC - accidentally brought it home. Seems hilariously bad.
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@JourneymanGeek any chance of sharing? :P
I suppose not, law-wise
Kinda the point ;)
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as far as "hilariously bad"... I need to find that chemistry video
@Bob in the late 90s cheese sort of way
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02:09
@JourneymanGeek yea... guess what I'm talking about? :P
hm, I found this video at some point a couple years back
can't find it now
;p
Its entirely possibly this is the only copy of this surviving... ;p
I don't think anyone even knows it exists.
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oh god. not the same one but the art style looks similar
ah, I think this is a clip from the one!
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these predate VCDs :P
@JourneymanGeek soooo, is the baking video better or worse? :P
@Bob its more ... serious.
I'll probably link on steam once I can be arsed to scounge up a optical drive
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02:15
@JourneymanGeek I suspect Aunt Jemma's dog videos are more serious
02:41
1
Q: Screen stuck in black and white

vkumarI have a Lenovo Flex 4 Windows 10 laptop. Additional specifications are listed at the bottom. I have a very strange problem. My account seems to be stuck in black and white. When I boot the computer, the lock screen is in color. When I log into my account, it is in solely black and white. When ...

this has me curious
Did some kind of accessibility thing get turned on?
can't think of anything that would do greyscale
Do color profiles work on a per-user basis? My computer doesn't seem to have any grayscale ones, but I suppose it's conceivable that one could be created somehow for some reason
I don't think so
A screenshot would be handy!
or just fun.
02:49
OH! Actually...
Not a bad idea
Oh... It'll be a Catalyst setting probably.
Could be Saturation is set to 0
@MichaelFrank post that as an answer!
Ugh... I don't like posting guesses as answers. :(
Especially when I can't verify what the settings look like in CCC.
I suspect that would be true for any video adaptor
Time to science the shit out of it
I have an Intel HD Graphics... let's do this!
03:03
I have a VM...
I HAVE A VICTORY
so now you can generalise the answer
Yea... so saturation doesn't change a screenshot. >.>
which is a good way to confirm
Yes, they would be reinstalled during restart. — Karen Hu 13 secs ago
I don't think that's how removing your video drivers works. >.>
03:06
wouldn't they boot off a generic one, then pull in the latest?
Yea, I guess.
03:37
@Bob ever reached the point where you go "I have too many USB chargers" ?
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@JourneymanGeek ...I am well beyond that point :P
Same for the cables, actually.
ah ;p
whoo. 17k on MSE....
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04:00
+45/-27. Clearly, not everyone likes it.
It'll take some getting used to, but I actually like the new top bar.
04:21
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04:47
@bwDraco cheesemoving ;p
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05:08
gah
new ssd got redirected to the post office
guess I'm not setting it up tonight :(
05:33
@MichaelFrank: soooooooo... looking at the few frames before the goalkeeper touched the ball, it's clear he had stepped out of the penalty box. The ejection was the right call.
The commentators said that the refs and linesman were confident that the goalkeeper had crossed the penalty line.
So, that's that.
 
1 hour later…
Sensationalist, but scary no matter how you look at it: express.co.uk/news/world/853804/…
South Korea is basically trying to freak out Kim Jong-un by telling him, "we have the ability to shut down your regime and kill you in a matter of minutes."
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not really. I'm looking at it from the "it's sensationalist so I won't even bother" perspective
I find it quite effective.
@Bob Hmm? So you're saying it's not worth reading at all?
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The Daily Express doesn't exactly have a good reputation in the first place...
@bwDraco I'm saying it's a rehash of the same news from half a decade ago.
With scary headlines designed to attract views.
Also known as "clickbait"
Somewhat old, but not really a bad analysis: currybet.net/cbet_blog/2007/04/… :P
(also probably biased considering it was written by a Guardian editor)
06:55
FWIW, I'm not a fan of British newspapers using hyperbole and selectively using all-caps in headlines to attract attention.
I realize that these days, it's becoming more a matter of survival (thanks to falling readership) rather than just trying to make an extra dollar/pound/$CURRENCY, but still, journalism has really gotten worse over the years.
@bwDraco as a reader though, its important to read critically
@JourneymanGeek Which is why I marked the link as sensationalist in the first place.
If you know its not quite right...
07:02
I'm not sure if that means I shouldn't post it at all.
@JourneymanGeek This is starting to sound like an official mod action. Am I at risk of a kick-mute or other disciplinary action?
Well, that's one way to deal with it, yes.
nope
@JourneymanGeek Clarify?
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@bwDraco It's not whether it's posted or not...
but if you're gonna spread the "we're all gonna die in ww3!" viewpoint, don't be too surprised if I reply :P
that's a conversation
a debate, if you prefer
The facts are the same no matter what source you look at. The New York Times focused on their Spartan 3000 strike team, designed to quickly take out Kim Jong-un in the event of a North Korean attack. The article emphasized that the purpose was deterrence.
@bwDraco well, if you're going to post something, from an admittedly controversial source, on a controversial subject... you should expect, well, controversy.
07:07
brb, rebooting Bifrons because the Bluetooth driver crashed again.
@bwDraco This is the entire point of MAD...
the problem I think is he either doesn't care (very scary) or he thinks everyone else is bluffing (a bit scary)
Or he's bluffing very effectively
I don't get why Pyongyang insists that it needs WMDs to survive.
Because they literally have no industry outside threatening their neighbour
North Korea quite literally thinks the world, especially the United States, is out to get them. Furthermore, it force-feeds its people this intense hatred of America, and anyone who doesn't follow is sent to a labor camp.
07:17
Sounds like america vs the terrorists...
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Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? — NVZ 5 hours ago
Caught in a landslide. No escape from reality. — FinancialRadDeveloper 4 mins ago
North Korea is quite literally forcing a mindset on its people.
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Hm. Time to update my SE profile :D
> You have backups, right?
Literally requiring an entire country of millions of people to hate America? That's just plain cruelty.
It cannot be more evident that a state sees its people as inherently bad, as guilty until proven innocent, when it restricts freedom of thought.
@Bob Lefty Loosy, Other Lefty Tighty ...
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07:27
lol
07:52
morning
@bwDraco we ARE out to get them
hmm....
the rival agency that works with our biggest customer is "upgrading" their website this week
their current uptime is now approaching 89%
08:18
> i dont know a lot but i have a chromebook c720
0_0
I remember that question. COULD HAVE SWORN I HAD CLOSED IT 0_0
 
2 hours later…
10:34
oi, no swearing :P
Sorry
someone was telling me wordpress is 'secure'?
now I know it's a plugin
but wordpress actively encourgages this crap
its as secure as any popular piece of software
So not at all?
yeah
this is why firefox is nuking addon's
@Burgi BIND?
@djsmiley2k tbh, sounds like the new buyer's at fault
10:40
When was the last time you saw a security exception for BIND?
@JourneymanGeek new buyer?
when you market your software at non-technical people and are successful, there are going to be other people trying to exploit them
@djsmiley2k its in your article.
> Maunder says he tracked down the plugin's new buyer to a service called WP Devs. As the company's site states on his homepage, they are a service that buys old and abandoned plugins, currently being in the possession of 34 other plugins.
> Maunder also points out that whoever was behind the four Display Widgets malicious versions inserted the backdoor code intentionally and this doesn't appear to be the case where someone copy-pasted malicious code from another project by accident.
> Stephanie Wells of Strategy11 developed the plugin, but after switching her focus to a premium version of the plugin, she decided to sell the open source version to a new developer who would have had the time to cater to its userbase.
Also, in bold...
> Plugin sold to new developer in May
In this specific case... eh
ah ok
still :<
sounds like something i heard of happening on play store too
tho at least that gets cleaned up
11:33
O_O IBM is trying to make a comeback with POWER9 - wonder if they'll convince Apple to switch back for Macs :P
PCIe 4.0
user226528
They are 10 years late.
Are POWER9 chips RISC based?
"comeback"
@allquixotic Power has never really been gone
They powered quite a few generations of consoles
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@Burgi No, but they are superscalar
what do you mean by that?
11:37
@Burgi IIRC Power is RISC-ish
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Superscalars run multiple instructions at once, via instruction-level parallelism.
@FleetCommand isn't that just hyper-threading?
Power Architecture is a registered trademark for similar reduced instruction set computing (RISC) instruction sets for microprocessors developed and manufactured by such companies as IBM, Freescale/NXP, AppliedMicro, LSI, Teledyne e2v and Synopsys. The governing body is Power.org, comprising over 40 companies and organizations. "Power Architecture" is a broad term including all products based on newer POWER, PowerPC and Cell processors. The term "Power Architecture" should not be confused with IBM's different generations of "POWER Instruction Set Architecture", an earlier instruction set for IBM...
that said, everything but x86 is risc-like, it seems and x86 is probably internally risc-y
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@Burgi Hyper-threading is a brand name for Intel superscalar architecture.
@allquixotic they crowdfunded the talos a wee bit back
11:39
i thought there was an issue with power consumption when using RISC at higher clockspeeds which is why apple swapped to x86 in the first place?
Jan 10 at 18:48, by allquixotic
https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-secure-workstation
as you can tell this is a subject i have very little knowlegde on
OH WAIT...
Its a new one
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@Burgi Generally, Power architecture is a RISC architecture. I don't know why POWER9 is not flagged as RISC. Maybe it is RISC and someone just forgot the flag.
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On an unrelated note...
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11:46
... I am a little concerned about Microsoft Edge article in Wikipedia, although my personal intervention has not been necessary up to this point. Some guy has hammered it to his head the Microsoft Edge has a security vulnerability, and tries to write something to that effect.
it used to have so many bugs
I think I filed 3 edge bug reports myself
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Well, actually, a specific security vulnerability that someone from Cisco reported to Talos.
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@Avery Yeah, well, it is a Microsoft product. That company might as well change its name to bugsoft.
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or Microbug.
more like macrobug
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11:47
Agreed.
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But this ludicrous case is like falsely accusing a murderer of being a rapist.
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Or falsely accuse a swindler of being an arsonist.
ok, little tip: never ever have the FF inspector open on the style editor tab and try to change the size of the window
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@Burgi You do realize that this is exactly what I did right now. Okay, why?
it killed my browser
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11:50
O.o
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Why?
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My browser is still okay.
it might be an issue with the site i'm working on
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Or a bad plug-in...
i suspect its the site
the CSS is badly made
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11:53
Is it online?
yes but i'm not linking it
its embarassing that i have to maintain this crap
user226528
Alright chief
you are the chief around here... a fleet commander outranks a lowly viper pilot
user226528
It is "Fleet Command"; no "er" at the end. Like "National Command Authority" and "United States Strategic Command".
user226528
The equivalent of Fleet Command in United States is "United States Fleet Forces Command" (USFLTFORCOM).
12:00
afk, lunch
12:11
Also hyperthreading is only good for floating point numbers iirc.
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> The OpenAI bot can't play the full game of Dota 2. It can play only one hero, Shadow Fiend, of the game's 113 playable characters (with two more coming later this year); it can only play against Shadow Fiend; and rather than playing in five-on-five matches, it plays a very narrow subset of the game: one-on-one solo matches.
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I read "Elon Musk is a super villian" because I don't know the meaning of the word "Bond" in the middle of the sentence.
@Burgi awwesome
this is looking more like real IA.
@FleetCommand James Bond
we've had this discussing before, I'm sure.
I've already said I want to throw AI at a game
and just leave it to figure it out itself
I'm sure it'll get to a point where the AI figures out how to glitch games etc
the problem is cpu time and storage
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@djsmiley2k We had a discussion on James Bond, yes, but not on using it as an adjective for a supervillain.
12:24
ok, well even without 'Bond' it still works
this is super pretty
huh
so i have to open up the firewall to allow DNS responses in
they don't come as a reply to an existing packet
YOU OPENED THE FIREWALL!?!?!?!?!?! WE ARE GOING TO BE DROWNING IN HACKERS IN MINUTES!
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This:
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> Having defeated the pros, the bot was thrown open to attendees at KeyArena. In-game cosmetics were offered to the first 50 people who could beat the bot. The bot did in fact fall, with all 50 cosmetics being won, mostly by using cheesy techniques to distract the enemy creeps or buying unusual items. This exploits a weakness of the AI; it's much less good at handling situations it has never seen before than a human would be.
12:29
@Burgi
Ohhh because UTP
errr UDP
@FleetCommand I'm interested in how fast can it learn?!
The half life 1 bot used to learn over like 5 matches, how to beat people :/
but the gibson,@djsmiley2k, think of the gibson!
@Burgi :O
oooooooooooo
BIG IRON
:O SEXEH!.
Blargh. Need a cheap M.2 SSD
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For some reason I am thinking of a gibbon.
@CircusCat take a sata SSD, pop it outta the case, hope for the best?
12:31
@FleetCommand yet another classic film you need to see
@djsmiley2k Lol
If I could find the right adapter it'd probably work
Actually now that you mention it I wonder...
i'm sure I heard of some sata drives which were M.2 in a case
but now I can't find em
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@Burgi Actually, I knew it. But we were talking of Dota 2 and you said Gibson. So, thinking of a gibbon is a natural outcome.
12:34
Hmm most adapters seem to be missing the power connection
@FleetCommand we'd moved on
I could put a 2TB HDD in my laptop and move my existing 1TB SATA SSD to... somewhere else in the laptop
i.e. one of the free M.2 slots
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@Burgi Oh, so you know the meaning of moving on! Wonders.
wtf is this
@FleetCommand so, your country of origin.... ;)
12:37
As usual most adapters seem to be the wrong way round, the opposite of what I want
user226528
@djsmiley2k An on-board storage unit. Supposed to be faster than SATA.
czechoslovakia
@FleetCommand look again
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@djsmiley2k I saw one of these in one of my friend's shop. (He sells laptops mainly but also anything related to computers.) Except, on it, instead of a Kingston 60 GB SDD, there were four very small chips.
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He said it won't work with just every computer.
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It seems every time Rahul says a sentence in the "I am so {deprecating adjective}", someone stars it.
4
he's a teenager, he thinks that the current emotional state will last forever
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@djsmiley2k Hey, that's a The Register link. That site is toxic. Even looking at it can burn your eyes. (Seriously, it writes the most inaccurate nonsense.)
@djsmiley2k i like how they are marketing it as a server for disaster zones. those places that don't usually have power...
12:54
@Burgi lul
/me waits
error: not depreciating.
@Burgi ehh, kinda. I'd like it to anyway
your words... they've gone
@Avery not scary to me :O
@djsmiley2k Nice, I want one of those
12:58
@djsmiley2k no like
asking for such a big change is scary
@CircusCat I bet lol

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