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Circus Cat

00:55

Hi

Hugs. I need hugs.

rahuldottech

@CircusCat hugs

Avery

@CircusCat hugs

rahuldottech

bwDraco

##/learn cathug <>https://i.sstatic.net/dOYAu.gif

I Am A Bot

@bwDraco Command cathug learned

Journeyman Geek

00:59

##therethere

I Am A Bot

Burgi

01:57

high winds, bits of trees all over the car park, no visible damage

Michael Frank

@bwDraco You have at least one dead link in that answer. ;)

allquixotic

-1

Q: How to close the question that you had answer already?

I have a question about my Super User post: Windows 10 Creator Update Version 1703 I have get the answer i was expected so how can i close this question?

Is it a cultural thing that they want to delete their Q/A after they get it answered? Like a cat covering their poop....

it's a common thing I've seen a lot on SE

Michael Frank

@allquixotic Interesting example...

Journeyman Geek

02:18

@allquixotic I think a lot of folks don't get the big picture behind SE

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek SE is for answering questions for me.

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank Big Picture - basically build a big ol knowledge base of everything

Answering questions ... is kind of part of the process

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek OH yea, I totally know that.

Do you think the big picture is lost to most regular users though?

Journeyman Geek

Yup

bwDraco

02:47

@MichaelFrank Corrected. I'm not sure how an invalid link (related to chess FWIW) crept into the answer...

rahuldottech

05:46

Okay, so turns out that if my server has to deal with 2mb of transfers a second, it'll add up to 5.2 TB a month. Holy crap.

Journeyman Geek

05:59

ooh, got my tiny kickstarter phone

Bob

06:32

@JourneymanGeek which one?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob the jelly

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek whoa! How is it?

Fun fact:The macbook pro only has USB-C ports, but the iPhone X ships with a lightning to USB-A cable, so you need an adapter to charge an Apple phone from an Apple laptop.

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech screen quality is bad, but its tiny

Bob

07:06

@JourneymanGeek linky?

Journeyman Geek

kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/…

djsmiley2k

@Burgi litterally no sign of anything here :/

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ... but why? o.O

Journeyman Geek

@Bob back up phone for dad, some general messing around for me

Bob

240x432 -_-

sooo uh

it looks a lot like a generic cheap chinese phone

except kickstartered

> Considering some place has no 2G network, we had tried to enable 3G for the standby SIM but it needs too much effort.

Journeyman Geek

07:16

4g version of a existing model

Bob

lol

Journeyman Geek

I guess it almost runs SE app? ;p

Bob

sounds possibly useful for @ThatBrazilianPony actually

djsmiley2k

Pony now? :D

Journeyman Geek

07:35

If I wanted to be an arse, I'd post a bug report ;p

1) PRETTY sure that resolution isn't supported

2) SE App development is dead

Bob

@JourneymanGeek dead already? huh.

Journeyman Geek

Well, its pining for the fjords

9

A: Are more mobile app review or moderation features coming?

To put it bluntly, no and no. New feature work on the apps has pretty much been frozen for the time being. Even if/when feature work resumes, I don't know if we'll ever reach a point where we're implementing moderator features, unless the narrative around the apps change dramatically. I've bee...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek oof

rahuldottech

08:31

man :/

Burgi

08:41

wtf... a grand for a samsung clone...

rahuldottech

@Burgi Apparently almost 1400 in the UK after conversion

djsmiley2k

@Burgi what phone?

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k iPhone X

djsmiley2k

o_O

jeez

people will pay it tho

Journeyman Geek

lol

actually, looks like a clone of the essential

just with a bigger cutaway from the screen

Bob

08:53

Restoring system image backup :(

rahuldottech

Me: Oh, so you like tech?
Girl: Yeah, I do some stuff...
Me: Tell me something about yourself.
Girl: I keep meticulous backups.
Me: *gasp* *nerdgasm*

This never happens :/

Burgi

dude you already have a GF

Bob

rahuldottech

@Burgi This was just a hypothetical conversation

My GF is amazing at coding, btw :)

Bob

This is what happens when you floof up a MBR2GPT

and then realise a live restore tries to convert your MBR backup to GPT too. dammit acronis

so, offline restore it is

djsmiley2k

09:14

why @Bob

Boris_yo

How hard is it to master Linux? My IT friend from Eastern Europe says that if I will be Linux god I will find a lot of job opportunities...

Bob

@djsmiley2k hm?

Boris_yo

He said that Linux is a shitload to learn...

djsmiley2k

@Bob what did you do to your mbr?!

@Boris_yo master it? lol yeah, that's hard

i've been doing linux related things for 10 years plus

it's not hard to bodge stuff tho!!

Boris_yo

@djsmiley2k Bodge = Patch?

@djsmiley2k Is it so open ended that it's that hard?

djsmiley2k

09:26

@Boris_yo if you want to learn, choose a end objective such as 'I want to run a DNS server' and learn how to do that

don't go 'i want to learn linux'

@Boris_yo a badly thought out fix

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo days to learn, a lifetime to master

@Boris_yo its like learning to run

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Is knowledge of Linux among system administrator's obligations?

Journeyman Geek

a baby could do it. Its a little tougher to beat hussein bolt

Bob

@djsmiley2k I gpt'd it

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo its useful, but depends on what sort of sysadmin you are.

djsmiley2k

09:31

@Bob erm, why D:

Bob

no one is a master of linux. not even Linus himself

2

@djsmiley2k I'll be moving to nvme soon. might as well gpt it

actually the gpt bit worked like a charm

djsmiley2k

@Bob very wise master, very wise.

@Bob fair enuf

Ramhound

10:10

A moderator might want to look to see if anything strange is going on with this question: superuser.com/questions/1249930/… a brand new user asks a question then is answered and accepts that answer 23 minutes later from a brand new user which states exactly what he basically didn't believe. (in other words he said it was his isp, and he then accepted an answer, that said it was his ISP)

Avery

honestly op is msft I don't know if they'd do something like that but then again everyone can be an idiot, so...

@Bob linus is by no means master of linux haha

iirc he brushed away debian because "too hard to install"

Burgi

WOAH!

Avery

I should invite him to install arch or void.

Burgi

loving the new look @Avery

Avery

Thaaanks, it's based on a real life selfie and was drawn by this lady.

Burgi

10:14

huh... tumblr is blocked by our firewall...

i'll take a look at home but i like it :)

djsmiley2k

@Avery op says they are msft.

Avery

I mean I check AD but I can't see anyone lying about that

Ramhound

What is with the stock market being going up after Florida and Texas is with hit with two of the biggest hurricanes in like in awhile?

Avery

yeah my portfolio had been under S&P for days now

Ramhound

So everyone hates Florida and Texas?

I mean the international fund is what really gets me, it the highest its been all year.

So basically the world hates Florida

djsmiley2k

10:29

@Avery AD?

Avery

active directory

@Ramhound yes

djsmiley2k

What Active Directory are you going to check?

Avery

if they didn't revoke it yet I can actually see the people in microsoft through my student partner account's address book I think

djsmiley2k

o_O oooh

Bob

@Ramhound oh my. That sounds very familiar :P

@Avery Funny thing, that... I find debian the easiest to bootstrap :P

@Ramhound Oh, and welcome back! Hope you weren't hit too badly?

@djsmiley2k so, now that have a working system again...

MBR2GPT was excellent. Worked just fine.

Problem 1: I did it on a live system, so instead of reusing the boot partition it shrunk the OS partition and added a new ESP

Problem 2: I tried to restore the old structure (entire drive, really) via Acronis but ... Acronis tried to do it on boot, but it only changed the BIOS bootloader and the next boot went the new UEFI path and failed to run the restore.

Problem 3: I tried to restore again but since I was currently booted via UEFI, Acronis wanted to convert the restored system to GPT. Bad Acronis!

Problem 4: Tried the same thing from a boot disk, but accidentally booted via UEFI. Guess what?

So... eventually got an Acronis boot disk going via BIOS boot, restored the old system, ran MBR2GPT via a boot disk (the same one, actually) and here we are. Proper GPT/UEFI system, no wonky partitions.

Ramhound

10:39

I have been here the last 5 days....

@Bob I had the exact opposite problem with Aconris

I could not for the life of me get it to convert to GPT for me

I had to wait until my hdd crashed which of course meant my image was out of date, go figure

But I was using one of the older versions (was current at the time) whch was using the Linux environment not the winPE

Bob

@Ramhound oh, must've missed you

@Ramhound It seems to do it automatically for boot drives to match the current boot environment :\

Burgi

@Ramhound pretty much, although if you think about it the USA is the richest country in the world and in theory shouldn't need to rely on a charitable fund especially when there are tiny Caribbean islands that have effectively been annihilated

Journeyman Geek

You need to aim better

Ramhound

To be fair....I live in Florida and outside of the insurance I pay...wouldn't expect donations outside of my own community.

I don't live on an Island because of the risks.

Just saying :$

It doesn't meant I won't donate to help those in need.

I really hope I can pick up a SNES Classic.

Journeyman Geek

11:03

the fonts look a tiny bit horizontally squashed...

(phone @Bob and I were talking about earlier)

Ramhound

Is it Friday yet?

Bob

11:18

@JourneymanGeek lol. it's vaguely like this one

gsmarena.com/huawei_y560-7829.php

I have one sitting next to me. Think it cost $45

(originally $90?)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob a fair bit smaller tho

Bob

@JourneymanGeek is that supposed to be good? :P

oh the one I have is this one pdadb.net/…

Journeyman Geek

its a little smaller than 2.5 inches

Bob

a bit better than the original

Journeyman Geek

ah I have no clue what I did but notifications work \o/

djsmiley2k

11:50

@Ramhound it's nearly my friday?

djsmiley2k

12:04

> WidthWidth is horizontally measured between the left and right edges of device according to the default display orientation 66.6 mm
HeightHeight is vertically measured between the bottom and top edges of device according to the default display orientation 134.6 mm
DepthDepth refers to the thickness of the device. Depth is usually the smallest dimension of the device 10 mm
DimensionsAll dimensions are maximal values (measured between the furthest points of the device) in closed state 2.62x5.30x0.39 inches

errrr

ok that was weird

but why is it given in metric then changes to imperial, then back again XD

Journeyman Geek

Sounds... british

djsmiley2k

lol

qarnot.com/qrad

firstly.... ALL ENERGY IS REUSED.

> The Q.rad is a system with high inertia and produces a high quality “soft” heat, as opposed to electrical convectors. The heat produced is homogeneous and stable, distributed evenly throughout the room, ensuring maximum comfort and a gentle feeling comparable to that of central heating.

u wat

Bob

@djsmiley2k High inertia means it changes slowly. Which is ... the opposite of what I'd expect of CPUs

djsmiley2k

Yeah, I thought aluminium cooled relatively quickly...

Burgi

12:21

there is a passive cooling system that works by passing electrical charge through the heatsink

Journeyman Geek

erm

Do you mean peltier coolers?

Burgi

thats it!

Journeyman Geek

that's actually due to the ... peltier effect? like a thermocouple in reverse

djsmiley2k

12:38

erm, peltiers aren't passive...

most definately active cooling.

Burgi

no moving parts though and are exactly what i was thinking of

user226528

Oh, wow! Photos apps in Windows 10 has made a great improvement!

user226528

Previously, it made albums for me from time to time and chimed, "Oh, look! I made an album for you!" I had to delete it manually. Now the album that it creates for me (:rolls eyes:) is kept where I can conveniently ignore.

user226528

Now I can open the app once a year (or even less often if I fancy) and give Microsoft a finger!

djsmiley2k

o_O

@Burgi hmmmm mechnical?

Journeyman Geek

12:51

you could passively cool a core i7

djsmiley2k

At what point do they thermal throttle?

As in a solid lump of aluminium a radiator that's 'safe' for contact (for kids) is 43C

Journeyman Geek

Well the idea is you go for massive thermal mass and surface area.

djsmiley2k

> maximum surface temperature of 43 deg C

Now, I'm not a physicist, but the surface area of 3 cpu's spread over the entire surface area of those black metal boxes, makes me think they're going to be a lot cooler than 43C.

Journeyman Geek

That is the idea...

djsmiley2k

a CPU at 100C, x3, isn't goin to warm up the whole thing that much.... and also won't most of the heat concentrate around the cpu?

Circus Cat

13:07

@djsmiley2k Some people consider "passive" as in no fans. Some people consider passive as in no noise.

@djsmiley2k 100'c

@djsmiley2k That entirely depends at what point the metal boxes reach thermal equilibrium

A good cooler is designed to distribute heat quickly and evenly over the entire surface so the CPU won't reach 100'c until the entire cooler is also 100'c all over

djsmiley2k

@CircusCat some people are wrong :D

@CircusCat a 'perfect' cooler?

I doubt they exist ;/

The entire thing weights 27Kg, so there's a fair bit of metal in there

Circus Cat

@djsmiley2k Yeah but it really depends on thermal equilibrium

The thing says 500w. That's a lot to convect passively.

djsmiley2k

nod

Circus Cat

And heat transfer rate goes up (exponentially?) with thermal gradient, so...

djsmiley2k

I don't think it's exponetial, otherwise glassblowing etc wouldn't work

the heat would just shoot down the pipe/stem thing.

Circus Cat

13:17

May just be linear proportionally then. Either way, central heating systems often heat the water up to 60'c or even 80'c.

Because 43'c water would take forever to heat up a room. Then again people don't tend to leave those running 24/7 like a "HPC server" would

djsmiley2k

hmmmm yus

Circus Cat

It's possible they have a perfectly calibrated design with the exact optimal thermal conductivity to maintain a comfortable skin temperature while the CPU churns away at 80'c+ (They can also adjust the thermal throttling temperature in BIOS/firmware, if they're smart)

djsmiley2k

my central heating is 65C iirc

Circus Cat

If it were me designing it, that's what I'd do.

Bob

@djsmiley2k that's... not how heat works

Circus Cat

13:21

@Bob Ahem

Bob

@CircusCat hm?

Circus Cat

djsmiley2k

Looks like the hot bits are hot to me

Bob

@CircusCat I meant it's not enough to look at just the temp of the CPU

djsmiley2k

So it won't get hotter at the cpu, before the outside warms up??

Circus Cat

13:22

Max temp 63.3'c while the CPU/GPU run at close to 100, and most of it's concentrated around the CPU

Bob

though I completely forgot the context was those weird room heating things, sooo... :\

djsmiley2k

@Bob haha :) ok I let you off

Circus Cat

@Bob Me too! At first :-D

djsmiley2k

I mean, I'm not stating facts, I'm asking :/

Circus Cat

@djsmiley2k But you're right. In real life scenarios, i.e. non-ideal "perfect" heat dissipators, the whole device won't warm up to the CPU temperature and the heat will mostly concentrate around the CPU, for a while.

But you can also see the vents on that image are pretty hot despite being far from the CPU, that's a good heatpipe doing its job

djsmiley2k

13:25

Is that the bottom of a laptop?

Circus Cat

Yes

The bottom of my laptop to be precise

Bob

hm

I probably shouldn't watch kitchen nightmares while eating

Andy K

afternoon

William Mariager

13:50

Evenin'

Anyone know what triggers the memory warnings on Windows 10? I always thought they were load related, but I just found out they aren't.

Kinda weird

Bob

86 (term)

When used as a verb, eighty-six, eighty-sixed, 86, 86ed, or 86'd is American English slang for getting rid of something, ejecting someone, or refusing service. == Meaning == According to Merriam-Webster's Dictionary, "86" is a slang term that is used in the American popular culture as a transitive verb to mean throw out or get rid of, particularly in the food service industry as a term to describe an item no longer available on the menu, or to refuse service to a customer. The Merriam Webster dictionary suggests the term may be associated with the word "nix" ("no" or a more general prohibition...

o.O

@WilliamMariager Look at your commit. You're probably hitting the commit limit.

See the "Committed" section?

William Mariager

Bob

Hm. Odd.

William Mariager

Indeed.

I wonder if it's any indication of a fault.

Bob

I can't pull my usual "don't turn off the page file" :P

William Mariager

13:53

Or just Windows doing something weird.

Bob

Typically not the case.

The other possibility is driver-locked memory.

@WilliamMariager docs.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/downloads/rammap

William Mariager

Hmm, I'll dig a bit if it happens again.

Andy K

bye

William Mariager

Thanks for the help :)

XKCD

We understand your privacy concerns; be assured that our phones will never store or transmit images of your face.

Bob

13:57

@WilliamMariager Other weirdness I've seen is a lot of RAM taken up by PTEs (Page Table Entries), usually when something reserves a loooot of memory (but never commits much)

RAMMap will show PTE usage

From there, Process Explorer will show the reserved amount, under Private Bytes IIRC?

William Mariager

Hmm, could it happen if something had a very high memory usage and then got reduced again without a restart?

It might still have the memory reserved I guess.

Bob

@WilliamMariager I'd also keep an eye on Commit - I think I've encountered cases where the low memory warning was shortly followed by the commit-consuming process crashing.

That's usually what we call a memory leak :P

@WilliamMariager If you're talking without a process restart, then sure. Memory leak, or just poor cleanup. But once you close the process the OS should, absent an OS or driver bug, reclaim all the memory it used.

William Mariager

Yeah

Bob

OS bugs in that area are extremely rare.

I'd look at dodgy processes first.

William Mariager

The reason I was asking is because I'm working with InDesign and it's a hog. Auto generating documents into the hundreds and then closing them.

Oh wait. I think I had procmon running ...

It must've filled up and crashed

Just as you said, it shows the warning but before I check the memory has been freed again.

Bob

14:05

@WilliamMariager That would do it :P

That Brazilian Pony

@Bob USD 125 for 2.45-inch screen with 240 x 432 and no mention of microSD slot? Nah. Can get ~~better~~ less worse stuff for that price here.

By the way @Bob, that Australian phone you mentioned the other day, IIRC it was carrier locked, wasn't it?

I have no idea what this is about, but there's no way I'm not starring this:

Bob

@WilliamMariager You can set backing files under the File menu in procmon.

That Brazilian Pony

yesterday, by rahuldottech

I AM SO STUPID

Bob

It does use virtual memory by default, which, given enough time, will hit your commit limit.

@ThatBrazilianPony It was, yea, but $5 unlock code available.

That Brazilian Pony

Oh

Bob

14:07

@ThatBrazilianPony Wait, which one?

Vodafone ones aren't locked at all.

William Mariager

Ah, I'll keep that in mind. I've only ever used it shortly where I often clear it.

Bob

@ThatBrazilianPony Huh. I see a slot in the photo :P

William Mariager

Was using it to debug how InDesign did path lookups when trying to swap images with scripts. For some reason it would fail. Turns out the path, which can only ever be a local system file, has to be url encoded. :P

Bob

s/photo/picture/

@WilliamMariager blech

Spaces?

That Brazilian Pony

Yeah. They don't mention it on the specs page, just on that image.

Bob

14:09

Could be poor command-line parsing.

Which makes me more surprised that URL-encoding even works.

Could be poor command-line parsing.

William Mariager

Spaces were accepted, but # had to be encoded.

That Brazilian Pony

@Bob The only one you posted a link here, can't find it in the history +_+

Bob

@WilliamMariager odd.

@ThatBrazilianPony ...I think I linked a couple :S

William Mariager

Yeah. Working with InDesign has been a challenge. Not to mention everything is happening through a COM interface and documentation is poor to non-existing.

djsmiley2k

@WilliamMariager # is for comments!

lul

William Mariager

14:10

Hehe

Well, I have to kinda blame my client too. Who uses # in file names?

That Brazilian Pony

@Bob One which was listed for about 79 AUD IIRC and you said you could get it cheaper in a store.

Bob

@ThatBrazilianPony Oh, that one. That's locked to Optus. <$5 unlock code.

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianPony has microsd

up to 128

That Brazilian Pony

@JourneymanGeek Anyway, it costs USD 125 while for USD 160 ~ 190 I could get a Moto C Plus XT1726

Bob

7 mins ago, by Bob

Journeyman Geek

14:16

@ThatBrazilianPony I didn't suggest that ;p

Bob

s/128/256/

Journeyman Geek

wait. Moto... C?

Bob

:D

@JourneymanGeek Yea they're going up the alphabet

That Brazilian Pony

@JourneymanGeek Or a Moto E2 for about USD 208.

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Paul Vargas

Who wants to legally get a free book about C# 6.0? Go here. You only have a few hours left!

That Brazilian Pony

14:29

Just got an email offering us to sign up for an extra (paid) one-time job overseeing a national exam. As it is a national exam, applying to this job has a lot of red tape. The web page where I sign up has twenty paragraphs of text.

20 paragraphs of text that convey nothing and the gist of it is "read the attached rules". Which are not attached.

I call the phone number on the bottom of the site and they say "oh it's not ready yet". WHY SEND THE DAMNED EMAIL THEN!

Journeyman Geek

0_0

That Brazilian Pony

Just another day at Bizarro U

Oh, the "apply here" link opens a form that is live. I wonder what happens if I fill it.

djsmiley2k

you become a winner!

defalt

Guys is it possible to create this kind of animated presentation in powerpoint as shown in this conference

Feross Aboukhadijeh: WebTorrent - JSConf.Asia 2014

►

djsmiley2k

you could of linked closer to the animation

but I would of thought so yes

maybe

oh mah gosh

i just thouught about quantum entanglement and what you can do with redudant networks

mutlipath which knows if the other route has 'already recieved the packet'

defalt

14:47

I sent him an email to grant me license for the reuse of his contents. He didn't reply till yet. I find it really cool to show presentations like this so I'm wondering if i can use these effects in powerpoint. It almost looks like a playing video until you look closer

Either the JSConf organizers might have made it animated using some animation tools or it is actually a slide show effect i don't know

djsmiley2k

I presume you've seen this speakerdeck.com/feross/intro-to-bittorrent-and-webtorrent @defalt ?

oh it's only a pdf download, hmmm

defalt

@djsmiley2k I saw it. They are static images. It is just a sequence of slides with no moving object like in the video.

djsmiley2k

was going to suggest you can at least see how it's done

defalt

Maybe they are not interested in giving the source so they uploaded as pdf

That Brazilian Pony

@defalt Sounds an interesting presentation.

defalt

14:59

@ThatBrazilianPony The topic or the effects?

Transcript for