Root Access

Burgi

00:03

welp i can't sleep

Ben N

@Hashim Luck, basically

Here is some more info, though I don't know if that formula is still current

Journeyman Geek

@BenN It is as good as it gets

McDonald's

01:02

@DavidPostill Is it safe to say you'll be listed here soon too --> imdb.com/search/name?birth_place=Liverpool,%20England,%20UK

@Hashim I've seen this before man.... the answer is usually right there in the history.... i.imgur.com/ERAXzjP.png They tweet it and bam, I've seen this trend when what you see happened with the views, votes, etc. increases quickly.

If someone can send a link to what dictates these tweets or such algorithms I'd love to read that as I've been interested in that myself. Certainly it's not a top secret thing but who maintains that Twitter account?

But that's funny about the 90's....

SU Twitter Account: --> twitter.com/…

Ben N

32

Q: How does the twitter bot work?

I heard that there was a twitter bot which automatically posted questions and asked for questions for specific questions on every site. How do they work? Is there an algorithm for doing this or is it purely random? I know that it doesn't tweet closed questions, but that's it.

It seems to use much of the same logic as HNQ

Bob

@DavidPostill oh, I meant calling the reception number, not the normal call centre number :P

McDonald's

01:21

@BenN Ah—the hotness algorithm correlates the tweets then as well—ha! I guess I could have went to Meta and searched on that term and looked it up. I'm glad people like you are around helping out those that are curious, etc. and using your skills to get accurate info. for people.

Journeyman Geek

01:45

I do think the tweetbots might not be maintained any more

Bob

02:37

floof

Ben N

Hi!

rahuldottech

Hello!

Mum... Found out about the extra phone which I had bought for emergencies. Unfortunately, she doesn't trust me to not use it all the time, so she took it away. Which sucks since it's a basic not-smart phone and there's not much I can do on it anyway

Ben N

:/

Avery

sigh

Ramhound

03:28

@Hashim The question was tweeted: superuser.com/posts/1239044/revisions

Journeyman Geek

04:15

@Hashim one of howtoforge's writers also tends to 'repackage' questions for content...

Ramhound

05:05

@JourneymanGeek - Don't you mean a different website? I never heard of howtoforge :-)

nevermind

McDonald's

So are the Hot Network Question and Super User Twitter related? If a question on SU gets SU tweeted does that mean it's on the Hot List as well?

David suggested Hot List earlier that I just now saw but history link shows SU twitter account tweet so wasn't sure if one automatically meant the other.

Ramhound

It depends if the question become "hot" after being tweeted

allquixotic

Hidden Killers of the Tudor Home - BBC - Full Documentary

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McDonald's

Okay, so they are two separate entities; is there yet another one which Journeyman mentioned that may no longer be active?

Ramhound

I didn't see that comment

McDonald's

05:15

Who has the keys to the SU Tweet bot? Can I borrow for a couple days!? I promise to drive fast and dangerously with no seat belt around curvy roads up a mountainous and cliff filled terrain.

Ramhound

I doubt they are getting rid of the twitter functionality. Hot Network Question is an odd beast. If that goes then it goes on all SE for something better.

McDonald's

It feels odd to me just hearing the name!

Sounds like teenage girl talk!

j/k

Ramhound

....

McDonald's

05:31

From what I can see it appears that "Nick Craver♦" is the man of the man of the man type of a man! Perhaps he has the keys to the universe implementing the new logic applied and all that with the tweet feeds! Ben knows how to find some good material quickly!

Journeyman Geek

06:04

@McDonald's Pretty sure twitter's kinda legacy, but I'll need to find a (public) citation for it

HNQ is... one of those things

@Ramhound actually, howtoforge is a site, but I was meaning howtogeek

Boris_yo

06:33

@JourneymanGeek Where's power supply then?

Bob

:(

D:

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo in the power supply

@Bob 0_0

rahuldottech

06:56

Does anyone see the point of this website? mightynumbers.info

Ramhound

@JourneymanGeek I thought you might have meant that site wasn't sure though

Journeyman Geek

07:18

Even I make mistakes ;)

rahuldottech

08:16

@2rahuldottech hi

rahuldottech

08:41

@rahulatschool ii

djsmiley2k

08:56

@rahuldottech does it need a point?

> Most popular numbers

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thats.... random ;D

rahuldottech

09:11

!~~

rahuldottech

11:15

~~!

DavidPostill

11:32

¡~~

North Korea nuclear test: Hydrogen bomb 'missile-ready' 😡

djsmiley2k

Bit scary

not really sure wtf to think anymore

Henry WH Hack v2.1

This is the end that's all.

djsmiley2k

No one can really invade

maybe someone in nk will accidently a bomb

allquixotic

11:52

@rahuldottech that would be a cool comment character sequence

rahuldottech

@allquixotic lol yeah

Wait... SanDisk belongs to Western Digital?

allquixotic

as of recently, yeh

rant: Hibernate and JPA are the most broken pieces of shit I've ever seen or used; their default state appears to be to throw exceptions constantly

fuck everything about whoever designed those pieces of shit and declared them "stable"; what a joke

not only are they hideously slow and inefficient, but they don't bloody work or do half the things they say they do, and every single API has about 100 caveats

data access layers should not be this complicated!

Felix.C

12:26

Hey :) I need some good source of information to get again into how tcp/ip works in detail, why a router needs subnetmask's etc. do you guys know a good book like a network bible you can recommend?
I did some googeling but there is so much trash information about networks, it makes my brain degenerate ;)

DavidPostill

@Felix.C tcpipguide.com (1600 pages)

allquixotic

@Felix.C a router needs to know the subnet mask of its own LAN to know where to assign DHCP addresses and to know the broadcast IP (ends in .255), for the most part

computers connecting to a router need to know the subnet mask of the LAN they're connected to so they can set up their routing table, along with the broadcast IP

DavidPostill

@Felix.C Networking Bible - link to large PDF (916 pages)

allquixotic

if you're on a LAN with other IPs, you don't need to route your connections "through" the router to reach those other IPs; you can directly use ARP on layer 2

meaning you can get the MAC address of the other party via ARP, and the "layer 2" (MAC) switch functionality of your routing infrastructure will let you directly talk to the layer 2 device associated with that IP

layer 3 routing is only necessary when you don't have direct layer 2 access to a remote machine, hence that's what distinguishes a LAN from a WAN

Felix.C

12:43

@DavidPostill This was exactly what I was looking for, thanks a lot!!

@allquixotic I actually wanted more of a good source of info where I can look when I need to know something, but thanks for the explaining :)

djsmiley2k

12:55

@Felix.C ccna infos

i.e. ccna training sites are pretty good sources of free info

Bob

@allquixotic hwha?

I did use Hibernate for a semi-complex site ... it went fairly smoothly, considering I had no idea what I was doing :P

(by fairly smoothly I mean ... 1-2 days + lotsa tabs)

@djsmiley2k s/free/cisco/ :P

djsmiley2k

Well yeah

but they also cover a lot of general stuff...

Bob

@djsmiley2k I remember a recent question about ... classful addressing from some guy studying for CCNA

That alone makes me doubt its usefulness.

There's also a bunch of Cisco-specific terminology IIRC :P

Journeyman Geek

13:19

lol

djsmiley2k

13:32

hmmm

there is

but there's also lots of general infomation

..... there's questions about everything, and 99% of questions can be answered by infomation freely avaible on teh internet (see that guy who only does this).

DavidPostill

head meet desk

its not an answer dear — SAJAD MK 55 secs ago

rahuldottech

mobile.twitter.com/webmink/status/904081073256243201?s=15

This is messed up

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill perfect time to step away. ;)

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek :)

Journeyman Geek

( was going to fix up, then close. Apparently you closed immediately before I fixed up...) :p

rahuldottech

13:47

I really should delete my Facebook account...

Ben N

Probably a good idea

Regardless of any specific events, even

Journeyman Geek

lol

rahuldottech

All of Oracle's Solaris Devs were laid off: phoronix.com/…

Journeyman Geek

Not that surprised...

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek why?

Journeyman Geek

13:53

tho its a shame considering ZFS development's tied pretty tightly to that

@rahuldottech oracle didn't really care much for solaris.

It was all about java and mysql

rahuldottech

@DavidPostill LMAO

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ehhhh... OpenZFS is where it's at

Journeyman Geek

@Bob hm. did they spin that off? ;p

Cause I don't remember opensolaris and her decendents getting that much traction

granted I've not been paying as much attention as I used to :(

Bob

@JourneymanGeek OpenZFS is v28 w/ additional feature flags; Solaris goes up to v35.

Journeyman Geek

ah

Bob

13:57

@JourneymanGeek Oh, OpenZFS is a 'standard' OSS implementation for ZFS. Not an OS.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob oh, I got what you meant.

Bob

> 29 RAID-Z/mirror hybrid allocator
30 Encryption
31 Improved 'zfs list' performance
32 One MB blocksize
33 Improved share support
34 Sharing with inheritance
35 Sequential resilver
36 Efficient log block allocation
37 lz4 compression

oh, v37 now

Just off the top of my head, OpenZFS has had lz4 compression (37) for a while, but no native encryption (30) yet.

It's in progress though.

@JourneymanGeek Thing is, OpenZFS diverged from Solaris long ago, when OpenSolaris was killed off. So there's actually no direct impact from this.

bwDraco

14:14

I feel like I should learn Emacs.

Journeyman Geek

go learn then

bwDraco

root@li1241-34:~ # zypper in emacs
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...

The following application is going to be installed:
  "GNU Emacs"

The following 11 NEW packages are going to be installed:
  efont-unicode-bitmap-fonts emacs emacs-info emacs-x11 etags
  intlfonts-euro-bitmap-fonts libMagickCore-7_Q16HDRI3 libMagickWand-7_Q16HDRI3
  libm17n0 libotf0 m17n-db

11 new packages to install.
Overall download size: 52.5 MiB. Already cached: 0 B. After the operation,

:(

148.7 MiB.

Installed on the cloud desktop server.

Emacs is known for insane feature creep, though.

Bob

Vim! :P

bwDraco

I've used Vim for many years FWIW.

Just trying to broaden my horizons.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco he's joking...

Just use nano ;p

bwDraco

14:23

lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...I think you got it backwards :P

bwDraco

It's one of life's little pleasures to have a server at my beck and call and an unlimited data plan to access it anywhere. What times we live in...

yieldthought.com/post/31857050698/ipad-linode-1-year-later

bwDraco

14:38

emacs.sexy (this is safe for work)

Bob

code.visualstudio.com

:D

bwDraco

Heh.

Alright, got a job to do. Gotta go soon.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek youtube.com/watch?v=4rY3X4xafs0 (4k video)

except my connection is too shit to stream it without pausing -_-

Journeyman Geek

lol

I have no issues on a good day

Bob

@JourneymanGeek another good one:

Ink In Motion

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Journeyman Geek

14:48

lol

about to go to bed

3 more days of 'work'

Bob

@JourneymanGeek it's a lot like the colourful flames one :D

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

@JourneymanGeek you should get some contact details (of people you like), so you can check up on em in a couple months... just to see what other crazy shit's happened :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob oh already done

word spread really fast

djsmiley2k

15:10

@Bob o:

bwDraco

17:50

roar

Got out of work covering another soccer game. A bit of a rainy day today, but my equipment's built to handle it.

Next job is on Tuesday.

rahuldottech

It's kinda amazing how Turbo C++ includes a complete C++ manual...

And they call it "Online Help" even though it doesn't actually use the internet

bwDraco

"Online" in this context means "accessible within the software", as opposed to a paper manual.

Traditionally, these sorts of help systems are known as "online help".

rahuldottech

@bwDraco Ooh, interesting :)

bwDraco

"Context-sensitive help" goes a step further by providing the correct help topic based on where you are in the software, such as the feature you're using.

Sathya

18:12

had this weird problem where my Ethernet connection would get disconnected whenever the cpu utilization would shoot up. Did everything, no dice. in the end switched the lan cable and that seemed to have done the trick ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

rahuldottech

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@Sathya You need two of the `\` to make the emoticon work :)

Sathya

heh, didn't notice it got dropped off

rahuldottech

WTF

My mum has a problem with me listening to music while coding now...

djsmiley2k

18:28

.........

:/

dem hackers

rahuldottech

Can someone please check if pinging microsoft.com fails?

Because it does for me for some reason even though the website is working

computerhope.com/issues/ch001054.htm

> Some popular sites such as amazon.com, microsoft.com, slashdot.org, and other sites that have had DoS attacks in the past may filter ICMP to prevent ping requests. Because of this when pinging these domain names or their associated IP addresses you'll receive a "Request timed out" or get a "100% packet loss" error.

Avery

@rahuldottech 100% package loss here

rahuldottech

@Avery huh

Ben N

Same, they probably don't do ICMP

Run5k

Even on Sunday, the trolls are still active: superuser.com/questions/1247044/…

rahuldottech

18:42

> First of all, don't let anybody tell you have to stop using XP. Microsoft has continued to offer security updates for Windows XP because so many people are still using it and security is a major concern for Microsoft and its customer base.

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Source: computerhope.com/forum/index.php/topic,162505.0.html

Ben N

Yeah this is one of many reasons why SE > forums

4

rahuldottech

Indeed

djsmiley2k

you dont have to, but your an idiot

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k you're*

you're --> you are

your --> belonging to you

djsmiley2k

ty

rahuldottech

18:44

:)

djsmiley2k

got screaming cjildx

rahuldottech

18:56

I've come across so much software hardcoded to ping http://google.com, I wonder what would happen if they start blocking ICMP...

Tweeted by rahuldottech on September 3, 2017 at 6:52 PM

Avery

@rahuldottech smh

just use example.com

it's literally designed for this

rahuldottech

@Avery But that means typing a whole extra letter! /s

Avery

whatver

rahuldottech

Goodnight folks

Ben N

Night

DavidPostill

19:26

@Run5k I'm pretty sure I know who that is, a well known SU troll.

Avery

@DavidPostill reads like a peterm post

no wait

that's not his name is it

I'm confusing namrs

yeah peter something

DavidPostill

@Avery No, it's not Peter David Carter

Avery

Ah yeah that was his name

bwDraco

@Run5k I've seen this troll before. Flag for mod attention.

@Avery It's pakif---

Wait a sec, the two are one and the same?

Avery

19:41

why are there so many trolls

Ben N

@bwDraco I think a mod's already on it :)

And the question has been dealt with appropriately

Run5k

@DavidPostill, I appreciate the "top coverage," as always.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco I don't think so. But we can all stop speculating please.

Avery

From the Apple chess engine code 🤣🤣🤣 https://t.co/IAcvEJtKPN

Tweeted by bazscott on September 3, 2017 at 7:37 AM

David Zureick-Brown

22:10

@BenN Will do (just wasn't sure if this was a valid question for the main site).

@djsmiley2k I'll ask on the main site; but: I was imprecise in what I was asking. I'd like to move, not the file itself, but the place that emacs looks for the init file. The reason is: I use emacs on 3 different computers, and would like the init file in, e.g., dropbox, so that each of the 3 computers has the same init file.

Michael Frank

22:49

@DavidZureick-Brown That seems like a reasonable question, just make sure it isn't already in the product manual. ;)

This might also help you out a bit! (apparently we have an emacs.SE site!)

9

Q: How to get the same Emacs environment on a different computer?

I'm a beginner in Emacs (using it for about 2 weeks now and loving it). As I update and expand my ~/.emacs.d/init.el file, the things that I write in there depend on certain packages that I installed from MELPA using M-x package-install, on .el files that I've written myself, etc. My question is...

init-file config

Bob

23:12

morn

allquixotic

@Bob my Struts/internal-framework/Hibernate marathon continues

Bob

@JourneymanGeek reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/6xsw94/…

allquixotic

overcame a TON of issues and it's less broken now than it has ever been before

coworkers got on a 10 hour call with me to help <3

Journeyman Geek

"Clean up AD"

Manager wanted AD. DENIED.

Bob

@allquixotic ...10 hour call? o.o

Journeyman Geek

23:19

hah

reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/6xsw94/…

did this by accident once

Bob

@JourneymanGeek reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/6xsw94/…

Avery

@JourneymanGeek god dammit

at my old school they thought that they could make me code stuff and take care of IT issues because they were covering my tuition

(so I left.)

Journeyman Geek

Oh. I was smart enough to backtrack and work out what I did

ah

Avery

to be fair they weren't even covering everything

I still paid like %40 (education scholarship was like 85%, but on top of that I had to pay for food and commute and books and all, which costed a lot) and that was a TON

Michael Frank

It's been a while since I was at school... (10 years already...?!) Okay... so it's probably not really that long. Anywho... I remember whatever OS we were running would allow users to use the Backspace key to go up one level in an Explorer window. However, for some reason... it wouldn't stop at the local machine, and kept going up and up until you would hit the root of the Fileserver.

Journeyman Geek

23:24

(context - I ~~fired~~ handed in notice at the school I was working for)

Avery

But yeah considering all that the scholarship wasn't enough to cover the emotional abuse I suffered from teachers and other students and administration nor was it enough to cover the stuff they wanted me to work on (basically they tried to get me to 4 competitions a year and I really wanted none so I used to only enter 2 but that took a ton of talking and stuff etc)

And they tried to mess with my educational path by making me take maths instead of foreign languages and I really don't want that but I wasn't given a choice etc.

tl;dr: scholarships can get messy.

Sorry for the rambles.

It's kinda annoying.

Journeyman Geek

Oh its fine ;p

Avery

But yeah it's not like school didn't even have IT

and the IT was a holy place and the people were great and all

and the person who arranged scholarship in first place was IT

but teachers were too lazy to call IT so they kept calling me

agh

somehow when parents come to take a sick student off class to take to hospital they need to wait to not intervene with learning processes of other students but when teachers or administration wants to take a student out to handle their goddamn projector issues while they could just ask IT to handle, it's not intervening with learning processes

and apparently when someone who doesn't even work for that place can't solve the BS touchpad issues you have, you have the face to talk shit about them

I should take this to tfts at some point

but not today

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