Root Access

Anna duh

00:02

Depends how often you need to use it

Personally i've got no issue paying for a 3D printer, more of a problem of where to put it

I suppose I could get a few more sets of 12v car batteries and use it to run my UPS in my storage unit

There's more than enough space in there, but no power sockets

Urgh too tired to sort out my phone today, I'm going to sleep

Err @Bob, I wonder if your phone is still encrypted :-o

The guide you mentioned actually working in the end doesn't mention disabling encryption, only reformatting. And supposedly the stock kernel forces encryption so it re-encrypts as soon as you reboot after a format...

Bob

@Annaduh Nope.

You format the data partition midway through.

It's not encrypted post-format.

@Annaduh So, yea... the idea is you don't reboot back into stock. You format, reboot into recovery, install SuperSU.

The SuperSU 2.79 installer includes no-verity.

Which patches the stock image to disable encryption.

Michael Frank

00:20

@Annaduh Random facebook pic? :S

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek That probably means it will cost multiple months of salary in BRL.

I don't drink whiskey (in fact, I hate it) but on christmas I spent a lot of money (BRL 100 or 1/9th of minimium monthly wage) buying Jonny Walker Red Label. It's expensive here. I recently learned it's shitty cheap stuff in the US (USD 15~20).

The person I gave it to really liked it, so it worked :P

I think I've seen places that rent and / or share the price of 3D printers

Bob

And here I thought installing Android USB drivers was bad

Apple/iOS USB drivers are a million times worse

That Brazilian Guy

@MichaelFrank Random meetup.com pic

Anna duh

Lol @Bob, followed the guide you said worked, got a bootloop

@Bob Ahh

That Brazilian Guy

Oh, are we talking about borked Androids?

I've got a dead battery that won't charge.

A non-removable dead battery.

Bob

00:35

@Annaduh :(

Anna duh

@MichaelFrank Not random, not facebook, yes pic, yes :S

Bob

@Annaduh You didn't skip a step?

You have the right version of SuperSU?

You restarted after the TWRP first load, then after the format, then after SuperSU, into recovery every time (preferably using the TWRP reboot menu on the main screen not the post-install 'reboot system')?

Anna duh

Of course not, that would involve me not trying to be pretentious and smart

Also accidentally formatted /system so now I have no OS

Bob

... :S

Anna duh

But also copied system.img to my microsd card so should be able to reflash super quick from the phone itself now

I'm surprised nobody's made a USB-OTG phone-to-phone flashing app yet

Plenty of apps to allow a phone to flash itself but not to flash another phone without a Windows PC

Urgh can only flash boot and recovery from inside twrp not system.img

Oh S8 has LTE cat 16

Well here's hoping for the S9

Wait Bluetooth 5? Didn't know that even existed

Anna duh

01:03

Oh look Razer's bought THX

Michael Frank

@Annaduh That seems like the wrong way around...

Anna duh

And they've twisted the THX certification so they can claim their laptop is THX certified by making the certification completely ignore the internal audio

@Bob Oh hey now I get the no command broken android

@Bob: Interesting thing I noticed... when doing the whole process and borking it (stuck on the breathing Samsung logo), when the phone boots in broken state it'll vibrate twice in quick succession when going from teh S7/S7 Edge screen to the breathing Samsung logo

If it doesn't vibrate twice then you know it'll be a working boot (eventually)

Bob

@Annaduh Have you used Android Pay?

Thought I'd try it out, but it's not letting me add my amex card :(

@Annaduh uh. I think my final working rooted boot vibrated twice, rebooted auto after a bit, and worked after a bit more

Anna duh

01:20

@Bob I just assumed that won't work with root, so I never tried

Also the stock keyboard is bugged so I can't enter my google account login details in the getting started wizard

Bob

@Annaduh Apparently it used to work if you just disabled root (temporarily) via SuperSU but it now checks bootloader lock status...

@Annaduh workedforme :\

Anna duh

@Bob Doesn't the root guide prvoide some workaround for that?

@Bob Lol consistency... since both are phones are supposed to be in totally blank factory state with stock ROMs

Bob

@Annaduh yea but I cbf with custom kernels or systemless root. also they're mostly concerned with samsung pay (know) not android pay

ironically my commbank card still works through their own app's tap&pay

@Annaduh maybe uk stock rom is broken? :P

I have no (battery) life!

Anna duh

@Bob lol

Maybe I shold flash the CSC

Anna duh

01:48

Flashed a newer, operator specific UK ROM, also CSC, also haven't rooted yet

But now it works, and also have a shiny new VoLTE indicator

@Bob oh

@Bob hmm, only one vibrate for me, both times i did it

though recovery does make a higher pitched vibration itself when you press the actual reboot button

Bob

@Annaduh won't hurt... if you're committed to root, you're gonna have to format data anyway

Anna duh

@Bob Oh its been formatted many times already

Bob

@Annaduh dammit that reminds me I probably should've flashed an operator rom to get volte

didn't you have some way to enable it on the unbranded rom?

wait, where's the volte toggle usually?

Anna duh

@Bob VoLTE was enabled, but not working on this operator. Not sure if it was the branded ROM/CSC or just the update in general that enabled it

Bob

I can't even find an option :(

Anna duh

02:02

Worked on my other operator without branded ROM though

Bob

@Annaduh do you remember how you did it?

Anna duh

@Bob It's hidden in one of those secret code places (though the VoWiFi using IMS UMA was a user-visible option)

Lol setup wizard crashed because setup wizard was doing setup

Aka wireless disconnected and reconnected as setup wizard was syncing wifi settings... interruption of the connection caused setup wizard to crash

Bob

@Annaduh there was something about adding a CSC :S

Anna duh

There's a secret/hidden menu option for manually installing a CSC, yeah

Oh the branded rom is also newer than the unbranded (not just newer build, but march android patch level instead of feb)

Bob

@Annaduh yea, google's giving me lots of junk :P

Anna duh

02:07

@Bob Do you want my .msh file?

Bob

< CscFeature_IMS_EnableVoLTE>true < /CscFeature_IMS_EnableVoLTE >

That sounds ridiculously simple

Anna duh

Oh yeah that

Bob

@Annaduh what's the chance of a broken csc (soft-)bricking the phone?

hm. I still have TWRP... I'll just make a backup copy :P

Anna duh

@Bob I'm sure I edited that XML before and it was fine

I'm sure I told you about it before and it didn't do much

Bob

@Annaduh didn't work?

Anna duh

02:09

Urgh. Floof.

Still can't see/delete saved wifi networks

FU samsung

Bob

@Annaduh I can!

Anna duh

@Bob :-o

Bob

@Annaduh Wi-Fi => Advanced => Manage Networks

Anna duh

There's an Android N Easter Egg app showing in TIB

@Bob :-o and :-D

Bob

@Annaduh Works for you?

Anna duh

02:12

@Bob Ya

Bob

I need to self-answer my question then :)

Anna duh

Now I just gotta figure out an easier way to get to storage settings

Used to be 3 clicks to unmount an SD card, now it's 7+

Bob

0

A: How do I "forget" an out-of-range Wi-Fi network on a Galaxy S7?

Looks like this was (re-)added sometime between the initial release and the Android 7 Nougat update! From the Wi-Fi menu, go to Advanced (top-right corner) and then the Manage networks option near the top of the page. You'll get a list of known networks and the ability to edit/delete them, even ...

That Brazilian Guy

@Annaduh It's our fault for insisting on using SD cards! The Android way is now the Apple way is now the best way!

Anna duh

@ThatBrazilianGuy And Samsung for insisting on disabling the Android way

That Brazilian Guy

02:15

@Annaduh Oh, non-pure-AOSP?

Anna duh

@ThatBrazilianGuy Just Samsung stock

Bob

@Annaduh Could you check that CscFeature_IMS_EnableVoLTE is still the correct option on yours?

hm... mine is already true :(

Anna duh

@Bob Which file is it in again?

Bob

Also, CscFeature_VoiceCall_ConfigOpStyleForMobileNetSetting

voltesettingscommon,checknonvoltesim,voltesettingOPS

checknonvoltesim o.O

@Annaduh /system/csc/others.xml

Anna duh

@Bob drive.google.com/file/d/0B0YK_4arD38_MFN6dmZHMFp5Sms/…

Urgh can't restore Titanium Backup's own settings using titanium backup >_>

Bob

02:22

@Annaduh You can tell TiB to store its settings on sd card

Anna duh

@Bob Yeah, it fails to actually do that though

Bob

@Annaduh thanks

bwDraco

Video Games Should Be More Expensive via @forbes http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/04/24/video-games-should-be-more-expensive/#5ae128426eb9

Tweeted by bwDraco on March 30, 2017 at 2:18 AM

If the cost of game development is so high that you *need* microtransactions to turn a profit, it's time to charge more for the base game.

Tweeted by bwDraco on March 30, 2017 at 2:22 AM

Jan 7 at 0:25, by bwDraco

Look, if you can't make money at $60 a copy, don't rely on microtransactions and low-value DLCs to cover up the real cost of the game.

Anna duh

lol... latest march 2017 S7 ROM requires immediate play services update to work properly

Bob

"real cost" har-de-har

Anna duh

02:26

Ancient 2013 S4 ROM doesn't require update

Bob

@Annaduh I procrastinated that notification for so long it just went away by itself

idk

Anna duh

@Bob lol

I'm letting GOogle auto-restore my apps and data, though I don't know why, since it's not really restoring any useful data so I gotta use TIB to restosre that afterwards anyway

Oh hey my australian friends are awake, I keep getting Facebook notifications from them now

bwDraco

$60 is just not enough for today's AAA games. Covering up the real cost with #microtransactions just feels wrong and dishonest. #BeHonest

Tweeted by bwDraco on March 30, 2017 at 2:28 AM

Anna duh

02:46

Well we're back in business. Also lets try this VoLTE business

Lol. Immediately switches to 3G CSFB. Good start

Switch off WiFi, then it works. Despite VoWiFi UMA being on. Whatever. It works. Pretty much. Me happy.

Gnight

Bob

@Annaduh 'night

Gypsy Spellweaver

@JourneymanGeek Remember last week when you recommmended BuyVM for hosting?

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Gypsy Spellweaver

After doing my due diligence it looks like that's where I'm going. Shared rather than VM but same place.

Do you have an affiliate link?

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver Huh, they do shared hosting?

Gypsy Spellweaver

02:59

I looked for and didn't find any references to an affiliate program there, unlike others. Still, if they have or had one and you're in it, you might as well get some credits.

Yes, under the name BuyShared. Same company.

Journeyman Geek

naw, don't have one

I'm not currently a customer. Just that they are reliable, and even when my server got hacked (embarassingly) they did what I felt was right by me.

Gypsy Spellweaver

Pretty basic servers, limited space and bandwidth. But for the nonce it's at least as good as I need/

Do you know if anyone commonly here is a customer there?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ehhhh... they're actually not very reliable -_-

> 2x Intel Xeon Hex-Core L5639

lol.

I mean, sure, didn't really expect much (it's cheap)

but that happens to be the exact same CPU I have in a certain old dedi o.O

It's a low-power Westmere IIRC

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob Static pages, maybe a static page. Don't need a lot of processing for that.

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver Do you know what frameworks they support/which versions? I'm having trouble finding it on the site.

Funny how the "meet our staff" section has a single guy :P

ah, good ol' francisco

Gypsy Spellweaver

03:09

@Bob ? Good ol' fansisco? Meaning good or bad?

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver nah, we just all know him cause he's the owner/face of buyvm

@GypsySpellweaver were you the one who was looking for PHP 7 etc?

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob Not sure if I'm the one you refer to, but PHP 7 was one thing I would like to have available, eventually.

Likely to use the domain for some light testing in PHP and Perl.

The shared hosting runs on cloudlinux, and uses cPanel, so most of the things should be "common" to the bulk of shared hosting currently.

They have PHP from 4.4 :/ to 7.1 and Perl in the 5.1.16 range.

Good enough for my purposes.

Bob

oh lol. @Annaduh just got called by amex fraud protection... turns out they block android pay pairing by default :P

@GypsySpellweaver probably good to check what buyshared supports, then

@GypsySpellweaver oh, that's decent

Gypsy Spellweaver

They also use Apache. Not that it's better or worse than Nginx, just that it's what I know af the moment. Going to install an Nginx server locally for learning it though.

allquixotic

whoa

anandtech.com/show/11161/…

now that's impressive affordability

Bob

03:23

@GypsySpellweaver The big difference is Apache has mod_php, which is fast and easy but also terrible (for security)

not sure if it's been deprecated with 7 or not

WIth Nginx and other servers, FastCGI is preferred

Heck, FastCGI is a good choice with Apache too

@allquixotic Nah, that's actually pretty average for Chuwi/Teclast/Cube/etc.

Gypsy Spellweaver

Seems most shared hosts don't have mod_php enabled anyway, leaving FastGCI as the option.

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver see: terrible for security :P

once upon a time, mod_php was all that was used

(the other option being old CGI, much slower)

Gypsy Spellweaver

Gonna get just a year of shared, while I play with setting up a dedi on my own. That's mostly to keep my domain active, and keep the email flowing.

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver Dunno if I'm repeating myself, but I tend to prefer a big host (Office365, Google Apps, etc.) for email.

Too easy to get things wrong, to get blacklisted, etc., if you host your own email

Gypsy Spellweaver

email is inbound and/or personal. It's just a personal domain, but one I can't replace if it expires.

It is a .name gTLD, and now they're mostly only registering that at the 3rd level, but I got mine when the 2nd level was available.

allquixotic

03:30

@Bob not familiar with those brands @_@

Bob

@allquixotic See... Gearbest's tablet/convertible section. Cheap Chinese brands. I have a Cube convertible.

They're alright but some weak QC :\

Gypsy Spellweaver

@Bob Once I've played enough to think I'm ready for some "live" testing, I'll get some disposable .info domain and put it on a VM or dedi. Then I'll play some more.

Bob

@GypsySpellweaver btw, dot.tk domains are "free"

they have funny conditions but they're free :P

but if you already have a domain you could just stick it on a subdomain

Gypsy Spellweaver

what funny conditions?

allquixotic

@Bob unfortunate, since at face value it looks similar in build quality to an Apple device

which, if you ask Louis Rossmann, is identical to those $200 chinese brands

but in reality they're actually a bit better

Michael Frank

03:42

science.slashdot.org/story/17/03/29/2030231/…

!!wat

Bob

@allquixotic it's more of a design issue with mine - the barrel socket was soldered, and those solder joints tend to detach

I haven't gotten around to fixing it yet (just using the usb-c charging)

but othertiwsse it's a solid device

(and, incientally, feels almost exactly like a MBP physically)

But then mine cost $450 cause Core-m3

Bob

04:06

@Annaduh maccas just accepted my android/amex pay :)

bwDraco

04:21

Ashes of the Singularity: Escalation just came up as "Update queued" on Steam on my machine—Ryzen users rejoice! pcper.com/reviews/Processors/…

Bob

06:38

@Annaduh Do you have this issue? forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/…

Cause it's annoying the heck out of me, too.

Reverted to Gmail 6.10 (by uninstalling updates via store) and it all works fine. Gmail 7.x is just screwed up

satibel

it is a "feature".

Bob

@satibel How so?

satibel

I dunno, ask the developer.

maybe they think that if you didn't go back to the list, you didn't read the mail?

Rahul2001

'lo

satibel

hello

how's your teeth? @Rahul2001

Rahul2001

06:55

@satibel goooooood

satibel

@Rahul2001 so you are taking painkillers? :P

Journeyman Geek

07:06

@Bob never had any issues entire time I was using them

satibel

07:21

@JourneymanGeek Well, I never had problems with my seagate drives. Sometimes a miracle happen.

Burgi

07:39

morning

Bob

07:56

my umbrella's leaking :(

Journeyman Geek

@satibel unlike a previous host, they are still around ;p

Bob

45km/h wind speeds with gusts up to 60 o.O

@JourneymanGeek that is a very low bar

Journeyman Geek

I also didn't have any downtime when I had them outside the planned ones. So, fairly ok for me ;p

Burgi

i know this is the wrong place to ask but i think i have been edit blocked on SO, how can i check?

Bob

they're decent as far as support goes but openvz in 2017 is eww

Burgi

08:07

nvm, weirdly the edit button has unghosted itself now...

Bob

Planet Earth : Bin Chicken (4K)

►

Burgi

the BBC have got this show called star gazing live. normally its broadcast from joderall bank just outside manchester and suffers from "meh" weather

Andy K

hey guys

Burgi

this year they are broadcasting from northern australia because it has better weather

except this year they have a cyclone while manchester basks in gorgeous clear skies and lovely weather :D

Andy K

question: Is there a way in Outlook to have a sender, sending emails to a bunch of people and target specific people to received an attachment, please?

the people who are not targeted will receive the emails without the attachment

Burgi

08:17

no you need something like mailchimp

or pure360

Bob

@AndyK mail merge. just do it twice.

Andy K

@Bob & @Burgi: Thanks. I had a look and this is more what I was thinking of msoutlook.info/question/…

DavidPostill

08:38

@Burgi That's because they have a limit on the edit review queue.

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Q: Preventing suggested edit queue being frequently full?

Related to Suggested edit queue is full I have noticed in the past few days that the suggested edit queue is almost always full which means that I, and presumably many others, can rarely suggest edits. Assuming that it is undesirable to prevent users wanting to help improve post quality from bei...

And if there is already a pending edit on a post you can't edit it again, until the pending has been reviewed.

Journeyman Geek

._.

theverge.com/2017/3/29/15105734/reboot-tv-show-remake-photos

reboot's not supposed to have people in it

Andy K

09:01

hey @JourneymanGeek

I have a question specifically for you

djsmiley2k

idiot idiot idiot

i copied the wrong proxy settings to the vm o_O

Andy K

If I'm not mistaken you are from Singapore

are you familiar with chinese typing through windows ? (pinyin)

Journeyman Geek

@AndyK yes, and no.

I'm from Singapore but I don't speak or write Chinese

Andy K

I'll dig deeper in the interweb to look for relevant info to pinyin typing

Burgi

09:18

@DavidPostill cheers!

i didn't realise there was an edit queue limit as we never hit it on SU

Bob

@AndyK you don't have to dig very deep...

Andy K

Thanks Bob. No ziguang for Windows then

user226528

09:47

Why can I flag this post as low quality? superuser.com/a/962891/477799

M.A.R.

@FleetCommand Because it's a very old answer

And apparently has an upvote

Afternoon everyone

user226528

@M.A.R. It has no upvotes.

user226528

What are you looking at?

M.A.R.

It has one upvote.

And two downvotes

user226528

Does anyone know how one can see if a link is cached by Google?

user226528

09:58

Never mind. Got it.

M.A.R.

@FleetCommand I guess checking if the URL http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:a link exists? Dunno

djsmiley2k

10:20

@DavidPostill rep for approvals tbh

rep for reviews too :/

rep, it's what humans crave.

M.A.R.

@djsmiley2k Reviews earn no rep Raises eyebrows

I know it because I have more reviews than I have rep on Chem.SE. o.o

djsmiley2k

@M.A.R. I know

I'm suggesting it's a fix

if a edit gets you 2, why can't a review get you 1?

M.A.R.

Well, there are already a lot of robo-reviewers

djsmiley2k

that's not a reason to not reward people

that's a reason to maybe fix spamming of review

M.A.R.

I would enjoy some rep for halpful flags and reviews much more than anyone else in the world o.o But it won't happen because those are actions which require meticulousness

djsmiley2k

10:34

-1

A: Windows 10 Runtime Broker CPU usage

Runtime Broker is a Windows process in Task Manager that helps manage permissions on your PC for apps from Windows Store. It should only use a few megabytes of memory, but in some cases, a faulty app might cause Runtime Broker to use up to a gigabyte of RAM or more. You have to stop Runtime brok...

@FleetCommand

flag as NAA

bertieb

There are badges for reviewing and flagging

djsmiley2k

superuser.com/review/first-posts/639580

that's a terrible test

bertieb

So there is a reward; but tied to doing the job over time (gold badge is 1000 reviews)

djsmiley2k

The user hasn't explained if they want it in a single cell, or just to appear as a fraction for image reasons.

@bertieb ok fine, but even Jeff agrees that people like instant reward.

Also tests are normally really easy to spot as they are at 0 rep xD

bertieb

Aye, but as MAR says you want to reward meticulousness / consistency; not give a ding for doing loads

Most tests aren't great; but they should catch out blind "Looks OK" clicking

The ones that are bad in the opposite direction are bad for opposite reasons- can be a vague +/- poorly-phrased question, but if it happened to be a HNQ...

M.A.R.

10:43

@djsmiley2k That's the point; they should be easy to spot

djsmiley2k

@M.A.R. then the robots win

Also sometimes they end up choosing highly subjective questions as review questions

I think that question is terrible

there's no example of any prior solutions

there's no actual description of what the user wants

M.A.R.

So that a 90 % success in handling audits means different from a 70 %

djsmiley2k

yet it's got 23 upvotes.

@M.A.R. If I wrote a bot, I'd skip any question with 0 rep.

bertieb

HNQ effect :P

djsmiley2k

It'd easily pass all the tests

bertieb

10:45

Is 0 rep even possible? I thought 1 was the lowest

M.A.R.

Well, audit fails because site rules were different or because of the Sturgeon law and HNQ aren't uncommon

djsmiley2k

sorry, I mean 0 up/down vote

M.A.R.

@bertieb 1 is the lowest, yeah

bertieb

Ahh

djsmiley2k

as in reality, any slightly older question isn't 0 anymore

and if it's not a new user, then it's likely to be well written generally

so yo'd expect a upvote or two from interested parties.

Burgi

10:57

fracking timesheets

there has to be an easier way...

djsmiley2k

urgh

yeah it's called don't be a temp

Burgi

i'm not a temp

djsmiley2k

y is ur work paying u by the hour o_O

Burgi

they aren't

djsmiley2k

then why timesheets?

:/

but yeah agreed that they suck

I have to do them for my shifts, tho it's a 9 week pattern that never changes, so not sure why :/

Oh @Burgi you know that excel issue where it opened two instances?

that's just happened to me!

but I needed it to happen, as I'm now doing my time sheet :D

and that's mine done for the month \o/

Burgi

11:12

@djsmiley2k so they know what to charge our clients

djsmiley2k

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

that makes more sense I guess

Burgi

if i've spent 3 hours hacking the customer website for crazy reasons they pass that cost on to our clients

with mark up obviously

djsmiley2k

yah, that's fair enough

I thought you were filling out a 'I was here from 8am til 5pm on monday, 8am to 5pm on tuesday...' type thing

As a saleried employee it makes no sense

djsmiley2k

11:31

hum de dum sigh

we seem to be failing on the simplest stuff here atm

due to blaming clients migrations and other work going on

/me roars

satibel

@Annaduh you can probably manage to make a mini wallet for sd cards with plastic sheets and a hot knife.

djsmiley2k

welp this is weird

apache starts without error

but seemingly not on port 80 or ipv4

also, wtf 127.0.0.53

why 53?!

lo: flags=73<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING>  mtu 65536
        inet 127.0.0.1  netmask 255.0.0.0

tcp        0      0 127.0.0.53:53           0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN

SSH is bound to the expected address, lol

satibel

@djsmiley2k dns resolution fails?

github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/4061

djsmiley2k

11:52

that's port 53

look again

it's using the 127.0 range ip of 53

which is fine, they are all local host, it's just... weird

satibel

look at the link

djsmiley2k

ah it is just systemd being stupid

2

fine

i'm used to that crap

Doesn't explain why apache isn't binding to any port

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