Root Access

Burgi

11:14

i'm going to call him in a little while on my personal mobile rather than as an official company thing

dev to dev

djsmiley2k

'the 4LA is coming for you, hide!'

@JourneymanGeek I always get doubtful about this stuff

UNLEASH THE ARCHERS - Test Your Metal (Official Video) | Napalm Records

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wooooooooooo

now i feel like i can beat work

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[    U    ]
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Andy K

I've got a question

Is it possible for a pc to have its port locked?

djsmiley2k

'port locked'??

Andy K

One of my site has a filezilla server (don't ask why) doing FTP stuff

they had a virus warning issue, which was a false positive

I asked them to unplug the pc from the network

since they replug it

djsmiley2k

you want to block port 21?

Andy K

11:28

it seems the port 21 is ok

djsmiley2k

...

Andy K

but the filezilla server is configured to open 2 others ports

djsmiley2k

block with a firewall

Andy K

namely the 20 and 990

djsmiley2k

41 secs ago, by djsmiley2k

block with a firewall

Andy K

11:29

this is the error I have

But I don't want to block it with a FW

djsmiley2k

well as it says ipv6....

you wondering about the error?

Andy K

but IPV4

djsmiley2k

either something is using the port already...

Andy K

yup @djsmiley2k

or ...?

djsmiley2k

or.... it doesn't have root privledges

Andy K

11:31

are there any softwares that can check which port are used and by which programs?

It can't be the second option

as the PC has a root admin

djsmiley2k

netstat

linux or windows firstly?

Andy K

windows

7

djsmiley2k

commandwindows.com/netstat.htm

I think you want something like netstat -b | find '990' but it's been a long time...

Andy K

sounds like we have a winner

djsmiley2k

did i remember correctly?

Andy K

11:39

yes for the netstat -b

djsmiley2k

:)

djsmiley2k

11:57

WHAT COULD I SEE? COULD I BELIEVE? THAT WHAT I SAW THAT NIGHT WAS REAL AND NOT JUST FANTASY?!

Rahul2001

12:34

The YouTube subtitle system has to be the glitchiest thing I've seen in a loooong time.

allquixotic

Power on -> insert smartcard -> type PIN -> wait wait wait -> Ctrl+Alt+Delete -> click a button -> type PIN -> wait wait wait -> start -> Cisco Anyconnect -> wait -> type PIN -> wait -> hit enter -> wait wait wait wait wait -> network access -> wait wait wait while Outlook/etc. load

FML

Journeyman Geek

oh right

!!unban TOWMN

ChatBot John Cavil

@JourneymanGeek TOWMN freed from mindjail!

Bob

@allquixotic s/wait/virusscan/ ?

@JourneymanGeek apparently Panda detects that growl to toast thing as a virus :S

Journeyman Geek

0_0

@Bob cause... its something its never seen before?

allquixotic

12:46

@Bob the five "wait"s before network access are that; the other ones are just because it's an HDD

I just can't catch a break - the spacebar on my brand new Logitech keyboard is sticking

also, apparently the U2417H is a very hot item; Amazon.com apparently won't have one in stock until April 2... I think the "17" in the model number indicates it's a 2017 part, or at least late 2016... and there must be a lot of demand for them

no wonder those people scammed me - you literally can't get genuine ones

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I hate those things

"it's new it must be bad"

@allquixotic yea the last two digs are usually year

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic plausible. My 4Ks are P2715Q and I think they're a 2015 model

@Bob and its fine on Defender

Bob

@JourneymanGeek yea I know

Journeyman Geek

well, I actually haven't gotten around to setting up growl on linux

and... how many people still use growl 0_0

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek you're a dog; certainly you've always used it

Bob

12:55

@JourneymanGeek I have 12 stars and 5 watchers on the github project o.O

HackToHell

yay got a SSD finally.

It's a samsung 850 evo 250 gb

allquixotic

@HackToHell hope you didn't get one of the ones with problems :/ the 850 EVO is an amazing value, but not without its problems

Bob

@allquixotic wait what problems

allquixotic

@Bob I'm tempted to fork it and call it hiss

HackToHell

@allquixotic oh what kind of problems

I can't run the magician in Linux and that's annoying

TOWMN

13:00

!!Am I unbanned yet

ChatBot John Cavil

@TOWMN All signs point to no

3

TOWMN

-_-

Burgi

why were you banned?

jokerdino

mindjailed

TOWMN

" moved the hole just a tiny bit in"

allquixotic

13:02

@Bob Write speed drop-off due to TLC -- although the unpowered data retention issue isn't an actual issue, apparently

Burgi

@jokerdino what's the difference?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic actually - support for growl for windows is terribad

allquixotic

Still, anecdotes

Journeyman Geek

and a fork/rewrite would probably obliviate the need for said plugin ;p

TOWMN

@JourneymanGeek I do this a lot

allquixotic

13:02

@Burgi mindjail is just for the bot; banning means you can't send messages in chat

TOWMN

@Burgi Because the dog overlord was being a dog.

allquixotic

TOWMN was not banned from chat at all (yesterday, at least) but was mindjailed

Burgi

ah

TOWMN

If it involves the !!ban command I consider it a ban

Burgi

was this a legacy mindjailing or something more recent?

TOWMN

13:04

Otherwise it'd be called the !!mindjail command

allquixotic

I can rename it !!timeoutpen if you prefer with a 5 second code change

TOWMN

> moved the hole just a tiny bit in

Note to self, be very careful when wiggling holes about in future :-o

There's not even 1mm of clearance around the holes it seems

@allquixotic And I didn't even do anything wrong

Not my fault dogs get too confused to follow chat when AMD beats Intel

This is why cats have superior intellect.

Does my chat profile still say Woof I'm a ~~dog~~ cat?

Oh good it doens't

djsmiley2k

no one pays attention to the profiles other than you :O

allquixotic

at least mine is consistent between the gravatar, the vocalization, and the animal name

1. A picture of a cat, 2. "Meow", 3. "cat"

Bob apparently doesn't have a chat slogan/profile thingy

Parse error; expected Floof. I'm a fox. on Line 1

djsmiley2k

@allquixotic code it in python?

TOWMN

13:08

@allquixotic That wasn't always the case fwog!

allquixotic

@TOWMN Wao, you actually remember that? :P

TOWMN

I think the animal dysphoria probably reflects somewhat on my identity disphoria IRL

Either way, Dog is Dead.

HackToHell

@allquixotic Oh yeah read about those issues

allquixotic

Geek's chat slogan should be Hello. I'm a wauzer. because everyone knows wauzers speak English

Journeyman Geek

I have a slogan?

allquixotic

13:18

yeah yours is something about subwoofers

Journeyman Geek

ah. Small dog joke ;p

allquixotic

13:32

huh, my random temp passcode for one of my sites was just five zeroes and a 1

djsmiley2k

truely random.

hmmmmm 4 letter agency... controls planes.... @Burgi o_O

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39292133

TOWMN

Huh, I hadn't realised Ryzen also rapes Intel for perf per watt

Despite quite high operating voltages

Hmm

And turning off SMT puts it within a couple percent of the 7700K for gaming too

djsmiley2k

:O

so what's the general concencus now, Ryzen is nice?

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k Its not terrible ;p

djsmiley2k

:D

it's not bulldozer?

allquixotic

13:48

@djsmiley2k good value, good for hot ambient temps or limited cooling (like in a very small box with few fans), great for professional workloads like video encoding, more than good enough for gaming, but with two major weaknesses, both of them potentially temporary

(1) apparently a driver or microcode bug causing the chip to far underperform targets in gaming (SMT bug, look it up)

(2) due to low yields, no stock and high demand, it's nearly impossible to get a chip, and if you do, you're way overpaying the MSRP right now

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic being an early adopter sucks ;p

TOWMN

@djsmiley2k It's very nice, and beats Intel on nearly all fronts if you manually turn off SMT while gaming >:|

Hopefully the SMT issue can be fixed with firmware and software updates, given Intel's HyperThreading had negative performance impacts when it first came out, then over the years this went away as software vendors became aware of and optimized for it

They've had ten years to tune for Intel's HT.

Oh AMD just announced their $169 Ryzen 5 CPUs

Who was it wanting to buy an ancient $150 AMD CPU again?

Burgi

14:03

@djsmiley2k not us :)

we only deal with the mind control chips

Journeyman Geek

@TOWMN @GypsySpellweaver

allquixotic

@TOWMN that Gypsy guy. does Ryzen 5 have an IGP, or would he still have to buy a discrete GPU?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic non APU models still

I think its about a wave or two before the APUs

djsmiley2k

14:23

wat

!!wat

ChatBot John Cavil

djsmiley2k

external drive with 2 partitions

plugged into a laptop

One partition shows up as H: fine

but G: is missing... where is it? Look in disk management, i can see it there

So I got ah screw it, G:\ in explorer

tada the files are there - it's mapping as \\local_dfs\

wat, wat wat wat

Andy K

14:40

!!wat

ChatBot John Cavil

Andy K

!!?

ChatBot John Cavil

@AndyK That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Andy K

!!/help

ChatBot John Cavil

@AndyK Information on interacting with me can be found at this page

Journeyman Geek

14:42

@AndyK if you want to mess with the bot you can also do so on chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/40974/bot-overflow

Andy K

!!mod

ChatBot John Cavil

@AndyK That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: lod, moo

Journeyman Geek

WHO SUMMONS ME?

allquixotic

@DavidPostill should respond to !!mod too

it's a foregone conclusion

Journeyman Geek

;p

allquixotic

14:45

unless ~~Boba Fett~~ HarryMC runs, but that's unlikely

if he does, I have no idea who will win: the more deserving candidate, or will users blindly vote for rep

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic I'm doubtful harry would tho

.... Actually, what would his candidate score be?

allquixotic

yeah, he never has in the past, and seems relatively uninterested in moderating the site or participating in meta

@JourneymanGeek time to run that SEDE on him

DavidPostill

@allquixotic lol

allquixotic

his score would be 34/40 @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic that's a bit of a surprise

allquixotic

14:48

14/20 badges, full up on the rest

he has 6 answers and 7 questions on meta though

I think the one thing I have going for me if I ran (which I won't) is my rampant meta participation

been more active on meta than main site since 2014 or so

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic My whole moderation style relies on meta and chat

allquixotic

but there's no real benefit to giving me a diamond when I can already answer questions on meta without a diamond

every time I think about what I'd do as a mod, it occurs to me that the things I don't like to do would become more important that I do as a mod, and the things I enjoy doing, I can already do, and being a mod wouldn't enable me to do them better or easier

I abhor review queues, flags, dealing with spam, bad questions, etc

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic on the other hand, I can't handle a bunch of stuff without actually metaing.

lol

@allquixotic I hardly touch the main queues

allquixotic

I prefer to focus on the positive aspects of the site: upvoting good questions, contributing answers, helping marginal questions become good questions, answering metas with long philosophical discussions, etc

Journeyman Geek

and smokey does a number on spam

Ben N

14:51

The flag queue is a pretty different experience than the review queues

Journeyman Geek

its pretty damned crazy how much spam volume we see has gone down

True

Ben N

I enjoy processing flags even more than reviewing

allquixotic

@DavidPostill has a ton of reviews, flags, and way more downvotes than upvotes -- he's the ideal janitor... he either enjoys that stuff or is just good at it, or both...

Journeyman Geek

lol

allquixotic

me, I would rather spend half an hour crafting a good answer a few times a week.... again, no need for diamond

bwDraco

14:53

@GypsySpellweaver So, I read the transcript and found this:

9 hours ago, by Gypsy Spellweaver

@allquixotic Competitive isn't so much an issue. If I can compile Apache in less than 15min w/o thermal shut down I'm doing good. If I can have FF open at the same time, even better

Ryzen is exactly what you want.

Journeyman Geek

No reason you can't do both

I wouldn't be a mod if I didn't like the site

and find those things fine

allquixotic

@bwDraco I was very tempted to recommend Ryzen, except for the current price spike (all the parts are selling above MSRP on the open market), difficulty of placing an order that isn't backordered for months, and lack of an IGP; that last part means he needs to buy a ~~space heater~~ GPU unnecessarily... which adds cost and heat dissipation

and heat is already a major issue for his current system design, so I was very reluctant to encourage that, even with a low-end GPU

bwDraco

Hang on to the GT 710.

allquixotic

he doesn't own the 710; it's something he'd have to buy

and if he's buying, I'd say look at Polaris 11, more future-proof for high res displays etc

bwDraco

Ah. RX 460?

allquixotic

14:56

but his budget appears to be around $500 total for the parts he doesn't already own

bwDraco

Yikes.

He'd also need new RAM.

allquixotic

he has a PSU from 2004 (which I believe is ATX 12V, so it'd at least be compatible), an old case, five HDDs (he's not looking to upgrade), and a DVD writer, that he won't be upgrading

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic the funny part I guess is the parts of moderation I like the most is soft moderation. On the other hand, It feels like I do a lot of it in places where I'm not a mod too.

allquixotic

in my pcpartpicker lists I built for him, I specced out RAM, mobo, and (if I had budget) a new PSU

and a CPU of course

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek I'm hoping to learn this myself :P

allquixotic

14:57

I still think the i5-7400 is his answer, but he doesn't like Intel

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco heh, some things scare me. I'm not used to people treating me like the responsible adult ;p

bwDraco

I have lots to do today, though, so I really won't be around much.

@JourneymanGeek I'm sure you'll get used to it

allquixotic

shit, my startSSL client cert is expiring today

Journeyman Geek

Also I just noticed today...

Bit of a spike on main meta. Trying to hit 10K there ;p

@bwDraco in a sense though, its handy not to get used to it

Perspective is handy

DavidPostill

@allquixotic Bit of both. I've been doing it because I have the time - but also to keep the site clean.

Burgi

15:02

how can i get my minion to make me tea?

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi just glare at him

allquixotic

@Burgi if you're not paying him to do that, you can't :P unless he does so out of kindness

news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13866234

Journeyman Geek

allquixotic

looks like I have no reason to renew anything with StartCom

Journeyman Geek

Like that

Make sure to wag your tail slowly

bwDraco

15:06

@JourneymanGeek, I really wish I'm as mature as you are.

Perhaps it's a matter of talent, but I'm sure I'll find a way forward.

allquixotic

@bwDraco I don't think anybody's mature 100% of the time

Journeyman Geek

yup

I've occationally had bad days

allquixotic

I'm usually mature except when I ragequit out of the Sins of a Solar Empire game @Bob and I were playing because we were royally fucked and I was mad :P

Burgi

hmmm... mysqli_real_escape_string turns booleans to strings...

bwDraco

I'm finally starting to realize that I have a tendency to demand too much from others IRL and this is likely to bring some serious positive change over the next few weeks and months.

Ben N

15:08

@allquixotic IIRC their certificates are currently useless

Journeyman Geek

or days where I go "I can't mod"

ANd yanno, that's fine

bwDraco

It happens.

allquixotic

@BenN Indeed! I just verified that in Chrome 57. A site whose cert was valid yesterday (that I own) is now invalid :(

Journeyman Geek

@BenN @allquixotic hasn't this been in the works for a while?

Ben N

Yep

I switched to manually using Let's Encrypt. Not the most convenient, but free and works

allquixotic

15:09

@JourneymanGeek yep, since October, but I thought they'd do something to get Mozilla, Apple, Microsoft and Google to reverse course on un-trusting them

apparently they haven't

bwDraco

I'm 24 and it took me ages to come to the realization that I'm too pushy.

allquixotic

@BenN see, I really can't automate my cert renewal for all the daemons I have that need SSL certs, and I'm not going to pay $100+ USD per year per domain because I have multiple domains and subdomains

bwDraco

I guess the only way to go is up.

allquixotic

I loved having multi-year StartSSL certs that would apply to wildcard, and being able to get more domain certs without paying more money

Ben N

That was nice :(

allquixotic

15:11

does anyone else offer that?

I'd pay $500 for the privilege and still save money compared to buying individual certs per domain

Ben N

Maybe DigiCert? Not sure if that's exactly what you're after

allquixotic

this is actually a huge issue for me right now, because I'm hosting a Joomla for a community and it's about to go live

bwDraco

I really wish I had the resources to maintain the sort of server infrastructure you do...

allquixotic

I'm after: pay a flat rate and be able to get as many wildcard domain certs as desired, ideally with a expiry >= 2 years

meaning *.whatever.com, *.whatever2.net, *.oasoekf.va, etc. etc.

then tomorrow I need *.flabberghast.in and it's $0 added cost

bwDraco

Alas, I'm still short on funds and I can't afford a good dedicated server just yet.

allquixotic

15:18

@BenN that's way too expensive per domain, unfortunately

I'd be willing to pay, like, $50 per *.foo.com wildcard cert (for one domain) per year, but no more than that

Ben N

Yeah, and it doesn't seem to have the add-certs-any-time thing

allquixotic

I'd prefer a flat rate unlimited domains of course, but if I can't get that, I'm looking for the cheapest wildcard certs out there

why the hell is such a basic thing so expensive?

every CA seems to assume I want $50,000 liability insurance and legal indemnification from them

I want a sequence of bits that will make peoples' address bar show a lock icon

That is LITERALLY ALL I CARE ABOUT

oh, and low maintenance (bye, Let's Encrypt)

bwDraco

How many domains are you trying to secure?

I personally use Comodo Positive SSL, purchased through Namecheap.

CaffeineAddiction

@allquixotic you can setup Let's Encrypt to auto-refresh

allquixotic

**Today**? Let's see:
Domain #1: the root plus about six or seven subdomains
Domain #2: the root plus three subdomains
Domain #3: the root plus two subdomains
There is no domain #4 yet

wow, I thought this was a bug

Hell with you, Google! -- seriously? why the hell would you intentionally hide this critical info from users?

even IE 11 gets it right ffs

Journeyman Geek

15:30

>_>

@allquixotic wait, you're linking HTG quoting SU on a SU chatroom? ;p

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek HTG came up in Google before SU :(

I know, I know ;_;

Journeyman Geek

boooooo ;p

debates the cone of shame

allquixotic

ssl2buy.com/alphassl-wildcard.php

this almost looks too good to be true

alphassl.com wants $149 for the same thing

and they're backed by GlobalSign, which is ridiculously expensive

Journeyman Geek

hm kickstarter.com/projects/boboseye/… an iphone case that's an android phone. Whut?

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek What on earth?

I don't get it, how does that even work?

Nick

15:47

Hi, excuse me, who do I approach to find torrents. Besides my local search engine?

Rahul2001

@Nick The pirates who live in the bay

user226528

Aren't there any torrent directory or dedicated torrent search engines?

Rahul2001

@Nick The guys who kick a**

Nick

@Rahul2001 do they exist anymore and even if they do, I don't think they chat much. They're mostly spam.

@FleetCommand Not sure.

Rahul2001

@Nick Oh, they exist all right. They're like the only ones law enforcement hasn't been able to take down.

And they still give away some pretty good loot for free

Nick

15:49

Say I want a torrent to all the episodes of the Japanese anime K-ON!! in 1080p quality

It's hard to find that exactly but I know some one out there has it.

How do I find my special someone?

allquixotic

@Nick I would consider discussion of finding downloads that intentionally violate copyright law to be off-topic for chat, as a room owner... @JourneymanGeek feel free to weigh in

DavidPostill

Did your try the obvious? search for torrent directory

Nick

Ofcourse

DavidPostill

@Nick Then that is all the help we can give you ...

Nick

and now, I'm an editor at DMOZ. Well, that escalated quickly.

DavidPostill

15:52

@Nick What did you expect?

user226528

The original quote is "Boy, that escalated quickly".

Nick

@DavidPostill I think google omits the best ones. Can someone dig out a torrent agreggator from the underground?

Ben N

I don't believe we should help with such pursuits here, sorry

Nick

@DavidPostill You mean the help you can give me. I'm sure @Rahul2001 has some nasty ideas.

DavidPostill

@Nick Someone probably can. We already told you (several times) that you shouldn't be asking here. Please take the hint.

Rahul2001

15:55

@Nick Cannot share here, unfortunately :(

Nick

@BenN Yeah, me neither. I miss darkweb SE. Too bad it didn't pass beta.

user226528

There was a Dark Web SE?

Nick

@DavidPostill hint taken. Crushed into lemon juice. Thanks for the refreshing drink.

Andy K

bye folks

Nick

I'm sorry @AndyK if I upset you.

allquixotic

15:56

if there are individuals here who do want to help you, I suggest you arrange a way to talk to them off the SE network, like Gitter or Snapchat or whatever you prefer

Ben N

@FleetCommand Deep Web made it to private beta

I believe its Official Reason for failure was a lack of useful original content

allquixotic

we won't object to you sharing contact info in here, and you can delete it after the other person gets it

Nick

@Rahul2001 You have my mail. Reach out to me with the details.

Rahul2001

hm

Nick

@allquixotic Whatever happens, don't call the cops till it's actually time to call the cops.

allquixotic

15:58

@Nick too late; I am the cops

Nick

Oh noes... oh wait, that's a good thing.

Rahul2001

@allquixotic RED ALERT!!

Nick

You're already in my pocket.

allquixotic

I don't have any deposits in my bank account from anyone named Nick...

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