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Rahul2001

15:01

Microsoft is messing up so damn big time.

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Stack Overflow Blog: Stack Overflow Podcast #102: What Can We Learn from Uber?

posted on February 27, 2017 by Jess Pardue

Welcome to the Stack Overflow Podcast #102 recorded Thursday, February 23, 2017 at the Stack Overflow HQ in NYC. Today’s podcast is brought to you by rogue cows and SHA-1. SHA-1: You can depend on it. The post Stack Overflow Podcast #102: What Can We Learn from Uber? appeared first on Stack Overflow Blog.

Rahul2001

This. is. so. cool. i.imgur.com/B1AlqvS.gifv

Bob

16:01

TOWMN

@Rahul2001 that's. Just. Regular. CMYK.

Bob

source

TOWMN

@Bob idontgetit

Bob

@TOWMN would that be more KYMC? :P

@TOWMN uh. loops. programming. haha. no?

Oliver Salzburg

16:20

I take back all the positive things I said about UniFi the other day :P

How someone managed to pull off something as fucked up as this USG configuration is beyond me

Like, you have a router, but you can't configure it. You need a software to configure it. But you have to be in the same network as device. Sadly, due to the way they fucked things up, you always end up with the router offering a different range over DHCP than the address the controller is set to

Oh and the default username they're trying to set will also break your entire setup

Andy K

17:00

bye folks

Hennes

17:13

We need this over in NL

Ben N

17:40

@DavidPostill I'm trying to calibrate a SEDE query in response to that meta question about downvoting, but it's entirely possible that I messed up the SQL, so I need to do some sanity checks. Does it sound reasonable that you comment on about 42% of the posts you downvote?

Please feel free to tell me that I completely butchered the stats

Actually, this same query is guessing that I comment on only about a third of the things I downvote, so something has gone wrong here

Rahul2001

@Hennes That image is giving me a 503 response

Mokubai

@BenN Does the SEDE query return data on stuff that is deleted?

Ben N

17:55

It includes counts of downvotes on deleted posts, but it doesn't see comments on those deleted things, which is almost certainly throwing things off

I think I'll abandon trying to guess that and rename the column to ArbitraryMentoringScore or something

Mokubai

@BenN If you want a more accurate system then you could implement a query that reaches out to mods and basically says "Did X comment on Answer/Question Y? Here's a paypal donation in $LOCAL_CURRENCY$ for your trouble."

It might be a bit slow, but I'm sure increasing the value of $LOCAL_CURRENCY$ could directly affect execution speed...

Hennes

Hmm, cannot upload images atm

Mokubai

imgur is borked

Might be related to an Amazon AWS outage

bwDraco

18:14

AMD Presents Capsaicin & Cream at GDC 2017

►

Live stream starts in 15 minutes.

Mokubai

Oh yeah, imgur is properly broken right now...

status.imgur.com

TOWMN

18:30

@Bob I don't get the relationship between a tomato and a do while loop....

Mokubai

I know I'm piling on here, but Amazon's stock price is a better uptime indicator than their status page. #AWS #S3… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/836641520321179648

Tweeted by Schmidt_RB on February 28, 2017 at 6:17 PM

djsmiley2k

@Mokubai someone testing the webcam botnet against them now?

Mokubai

@djsmiley2k I wouldn't be surprised, they've been about a lot recently. Didn't Cloudflare get hit not long ago?

djsmiley2k

19:07

yup

and so yesterday

Mokubai

@djsmiley2k SO is still going on...

An outage in Amazon's S3 is affecting display and upload of images on our sites, unrelated to the DDoS that we're still sustaining. #hugops

Tweeted by StackStatus on February 28, 2017 at 6:49 PM

djsmiley2k

ah k

Mokubai

still

djsmiley2k

we need to start a grayhax movement

start fixing stuff...

Mokubai

19:39

The dashboard not changing color is related to S3 issue. See the banner at the top of the dashboard for updates.

Tweeted by awscloud on February 28, 2017 at 7:17 PM

"The system that tells us that all the systems are broken is itself currently broken"

Michael Frank

Oof, so they're getting hammered I take it?

Mokubai

Seems it

Rahul2001

~~What's up with Amazon AWS: vox.com/new-money/2017/2/28/14765490/aws-s3-amazon-outage~~

Michael Frank

I have the perfect gif!

i.imgur.com/ZMKTffI.gifv

Oh... but it's on imgur.

Rahul2001

Okay, nope, not helpful at all

@MichaelFrank lol

Mokubai

19:58

@Rahul2001 reads like someone complaining "I pays mah money, it should always be up!"

Rahul2001

@Mokubai xD

DavidPostill

20:15

@BenN Probably not far out. I do try and comment if I downvote.

Rahul2001

Someone offered me INR 3,000 today to hack into an account on a major social network. In order to put them off, I said that I would charge 10,000. They agreed

2

djsmiley2k

lol

what network? facebook?

oh, £120. pfft

Rahul2001

~~Definitely~~ Probably not going to do it, but this is a different level of desperation from a 15 year old. Apparently the person 'insulted their ex'

djsmiley2k

tell em to grow a pair, and have a duel.

Rahul2001

@djsmiley2k A whole lot here in India. I can buy a super decent smartphone for that much

@djsmiley2k I did. He said that the resulting fist fight wasn't satisfying enough, whatever that means...

Mokubai

20:20

@Rahul2001 it means he got his "pair" handed to him

DavidPostill

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill lol

@Mokubai Eh, tried to scare him with authorities and prison. Dude doesn't care, just wants prison.

CaffeineAddiction

@DavidPostill sudo tail dog.log

Michael Frank

@Rahul2001 Fake an account, copy some of the content, pictures, etc. Give him the details and gtfo.

Rahul2001

@MichaelFrank idk if it'll work. The social network in question displays post date very prominently, and I'll also have to fake replies and stuff. Too much work to make it even remotely convincing.

djsmiley2k

20:30

take the money

laugh

deny everything

don't issue recipt

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 just create a new website and leech the content. maybe faceberk.com

wow, that website isn't actually taken...

Rahul2001

@djsmiley2k his deal was you hack it, prove it, take money, then give me login details

djsmiley2k

:O

that sounds like a setup.

Rahul2001

@Mokubai lmao

djsmiley2k

you hack it, you get arrested, he runs away?

Rahul2001

20:32

Apparently

@djsmiley2k lmao

Mokubai

Take his money, buy him a copy of McAffee?

That'd be enough to ruin anyone

djsmiley2k

lol

Rahul2001

Hm... This weird person is sending me repeated follow requests on Instagram

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 The same person? Report him for stalking :)

Rahul2001

@Mokubai lol

@DavidPostill nope. His best friend's girlfriend 0_0

This is weird

I shall not follow back ;P

Mokubai

20:50

in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 17 mins ago, by Nathan Osman

The whole internet is down... except Hillary Clinton's email server, because it's not hosted in the cloud. Who's laughing now? #Amazon #S3

Tweeted by D2KX_ on February 28, 2017 at 8:13 PM

djsmiley2k

lol

England is, we always have cloud.

Mokubai

Been a good amount of it the last couple of days

Hennes

21:47

Sjees. Finding a mechanical yet affordable keyboard with cherry MX-greens is hard.

Rahul2001

Goodnight folks

Michael Frank

Goodnight!

Michael Frank

22:17

safcordcover.com

You guys ever bought any of this?

Got 2x 9m rolls... $800 D:

djsmiley2k

22:34

@MichaelFrank duct tape!

Michael Frank

Maybe for concert... but not for the corporate office!

djsmiley2k

cheaper to get an electrican in?

Also, I've seen hard rubber ones

which don't stick to anything

Michael Frank

yea, and slide all over the place. We've got them at the moment. Hella annoying.

djsmiley2k

so you got wood floors?

Michael Frank

It's all carpeted.

But the rubber ones still skid around.

bwDraco

22:38

Some (minor) Socket AM4-related trouble two days before launch: tomshardware.com/news/…

djsmiley2k

:/

I don't see....

bwDraco

TL;DR: Screws for securing HSF backplates may be too long, resulting in insufficient heatsink pressure on the processor and thereby compromised cooling performance.

djsmiley2k

they using amd's backplate with a 3rd party cooler?

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k no no no. Gaffer tape.

bwDraco

lol

djsmiley2k

22:43

sounds to me like AMD issue 'you need this setup to mount'

they then provide a slightly different setup with the stock cooler

lazy 3rd party goes 'we can use their back plate' and designs to use it, using the specs AMD issued.... and chaos ensues

bwDraco

lol

djsmiley2k

as AMD are perfectly fine to edit their own design and even go outside their own specs

no one else should be using it after all.

Of course this whole theory just came out of my sleep deprived head...

2 more night shifts to go yey

I'm actually feeling shockingly 'ok'

but I know I'm tired - the windscreen wipers started going on the car, and I jumped thinking I'd hit the kerb :/

Bob

@TOWMN Expected egg, got tomato? *shrug*

djsmiley2k

/me wibbles

Burgi

23:06

guys if you get a chance go see this guy: thejohnrobertson.com

absolutely hillarious

Bob

"Live demos are like playing Russian Roulette with 5 bullets loaded."

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on February 28, 2017 at 10:20 PM

djsmiley2k

23:19

hey I'm phoning Singapore!

Journeyman Geek

23:32

I guess razer is running AWS too

synapse is failing to let me log in

djsmiley2k

the joys of 'too big to fail'

Journeyman Geek

The joys of everyone's eggs in one basket

not to mention, without synapse my mouse is stuck at a lower DPI

djsmiley2k

The joys of highlighting to terrorists exactly where to strike to take out parts of the internet XD

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The joys of requiring login for what should be a totally local program, more like...

*opens Logitech Gaming Software* :P

Journeyman Geek

reddit.com/r/razer/comments/5wpujv/system_error_3803

ooh

Burgi

23:41

@djsmiley2k if a dog answers you know who you are talking to

djsmiley2k

note to not buy a Razer mouse xD

@Burgi :D

Burgi

unless... plot twist, everyone in singapore is a dog

djsmiley2k

:O

Burgi

this might be racist, not sure....

djsmiley2k

is Singoporeese a race?

Burgi

23:45

i meant the dilbert

luckily india is asleep right now

still_dreaming_1

Is it bad to modify the linux files from windows file explorer when using bash on ubuntu on windows?

Ben N

Yes, very

Burgi

wait what?

djsmiley2k

err

as in you're running bash, and modifying the bash files from outside bash?

DavidPostill

Interesting facts:
1/ The current population of Singapore is 5,754,427 as of Tuesday, February 28, 2017, based on the latest United Nations estimates.
2/ Singapore's pet population is projected to hit 824,600 pets this year - up from 816,115 in 2014, according to statistics from Euromonitor
3/ The number of canine pets increased from an estimated 47,000 in 2006 to 62,000 last year.

djsmiley2k

23:48

I'd argue not really

just source ./.file you changed

Bob

@still_dreaming_1 There's a bunch of hidden metadata (e.g. Unix permissions) attached to it that you'll possibly corrupt if you try modifying it from Explorer.

Ben N

I think I read somewhere that there's metadata about them that doesn't show up to normal Windows APIs and will get destroyed if you change the files outside Bash

djsmiley2k

depending if it needs sourcing.

ooooooooo

ok that'd be bad xD

still_dreaming_1

ok, well what about the other way around? Is it ok to modify the Windows files from that bash?

Bob

@djsmiley2k It's not about modifying files from outside bash. It's about modifying files from outside bash on Windows, aka WSL, aka Bash on Ubuntu on Windows.

still_dreaming_1

23:49

If not that seems really stupid

Ben N

@still_dreaming_1 That's fine

djsmiley2k

@Bob I stupidly thought linux on windows, from ms, would support linux on windows, from ms

Bob

@still_dreaming_1 As long as you don't try anything tricky :P

djsmiley2k

the most stupid thing?

Bob

If you go through the normal mountpoints, that's fine cause there's a translation layer.

djsmiley2k

23:50

I can edit a file on my linux server, via scp, from my windows desktop, and it WON'T BLOW UP.

Burgi

bedtime

nn

Bob

@djsmiley2k ...and? It does...

djsmiley2k

my brain actually hurts from the stupidity...

@Bob it doesn't blow up

Bob

@djsmiley2k Funny thing? You can do that with WSL too.

djsmiley2k

it edits the file content.

still_dreaming_1

23:50

So I should be able to create files using git from bash that are in the normal windows file system and then interact with those files from both Windows programs and bash programs right?

djsmiley2k

@Bob you just told him not to :/

Bob

@djsmiley2k You're talking network access. You can host a SCP server on WSL and run a SCP client on Windows and it'd work fine too.

@djsmiley2k He's talking the equivalent of loading up a raw ext drive in Notepad and fiddling with it.

djsmiley2k

so why isn't that the default d:

or why aren't the files hidden so you can't screw it up like this

erm, i believe windows 7 (and I guess 10) can mount ext2 and ext3 quite well

Bob

@still_dreaming_1 Yes, as long as it's via the Windows mountpoints and appears in the normal Windows filesystem, it's all fine. Just don't reach into the private WSL directories.

@djsmiley2k They are hidden.

djsmiley2k

@Bob ah ok

so users be cray cray?

Bob

23:53

I don't know why you're bashing MS for this...

djsmiley2k

still feels stupid to me, but what do i know

Bob

@still_dreaming_1 Useful reading: blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/wsl/2016/06/15/wsl-file-system-support

Rule of thumb, don't touch anything in `%LocalAppData%\lxss` since that's supposed to be private (only accessed via VolFs).

Anything via /mnt/c, /mnt/<driveletter> goes through DrvFs and should work fine from both OSes.

Journeyman Geek

I read VoIFs as voice over installable file system .-.

still_dreaming_1

Ok. I placed a symlink to /mnt/c form my home in bash to make thins easier.

thanks

Bob

@JourneymanGeek sans-serif sucks :P

Journeyman Geek

23:56

@Bob I read an angry rant about comic sans haters ;p

also, its not sans at fault here. All the letters make sense ;p

Bob

@djsmiley2k VolFs is intended to be opaqe from Windows. You treat it as a separate OS. If you happen to make a filesystem driver that can mount VolFs properly, then, sure, you can access it directly. But you don't have one. So it's like trying to access an ext filesystem without the appropriate drivers.

djsmiley2k

so they released a fs without a driver?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek It's VolFs. As in, VOLFS. That's a L, not an i. That's why sans-serif sucks: I and l look the same...

Journeyman Geek

OH

Bob

lol. kinda proves my point :P

@djsmiley2k ...no? Maybe you need some sleep...

Journeyman Geek

23:58

hiding offline mode as a undocumented option sucks

and since updates on this specific system is broken anyway....

djsmiley2k

plz stop shouting at me :(

still_dreaming_1

@djsmiley2k Well it's still in beta. Hopefully they will release a driver before going out of beta, but I'm not holding my breath

djsmiley2k

@Bob 5 nightshifts down, 2 to go (including tonight)

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