Root Access

Journeyman Geek

14:01

I mean, I set up a VM for reasons. I'm still going to want a browser, AV....

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek i'm glad you reopened that meta question about merging

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi well, I felt it needed addressing, there were some good numbers, and considering gracenote's comment, it seemed right

Burgi

your answer is perfect

Journeyman Geek

Thanks ;p

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill Anything about the battery?

Journeyman Geek

14:07

I only learnt about this stackexchange.com/sites#traffic (list view!) today

Hennes

Morning.

First coffee atm, so it is morning.

Rahul2001

@Bob Wait... you can't? My life is a lie

Journeyman Geek

Nope

It basically is a poor man's A record

Ben N

The hosts file only lets you set where some domains go

To block an IP, use Windows Firewall

Burgi

i've been ordered to share this

Journeyman Geek

14:15

That still feels like a terrible way to stop updates

DavidPostill

@Burgi lol. It just tried to snow here for a few minutes. You got snow in Manchester?

Burgi

@DavidPostill no

djsmiley2k

tried to?

Liverpool right @DavidPostill ?

Ben N

There were a few snowflakes on the ground here

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Some flakes that didn't settle as the ground is wet (rain) and above freezing.

Journeyman Geek

14:17

hmm

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k L'pool, yes

Journeyman Geek

superuser.com/questions/1166421/… primarily opinion based?

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek And arguably Hardware Shopping.

Journeyman Geek

Would depend on the browser too.

and... too broad?

Ben N

If they specified a browser and removed the hardware rec part, I'd give it a pass

Hennes

14:20

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, that also was my first opinion. I tried to put a constructive answer on it though.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, that's fine.

Your answer wouldn't fit as a comment anyhow.

djsmiley2k

And the answer is likely 'moar ram'

Journeyman Geek

BOAR RAM!

Also, 64 bit browsers seem to work better

and SSDs

djsmiley2k

BEST RAM WILD PIG RAM!

Journeyman Geek

that said you could be pretty happy with a tricked out c2d

Hennes

14:21

Yes, more DDR2 assuming it is an X64 OS might be the quick fix.
But first determine what the damn bottleneck is.

My old Dell E6500 (core2duo, dual core laptop) still is fast enough to browse the web.

djsmiley2k

@Hennes yup that.

I always presume ram :D

Hennes

Granted, max RAM to 4GiB, SSD, Dedicated GPU (and none of that switchable graphics stuff)(

Journeyman Geek

My dad runs something similar with a gig of ram and a SSD

seems happy with it

djsmiley2k

but also, browsers are just so damn slow sometimes :/

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k the switch to 64 bit firefox seems to be good for me

Hennes

14:23

But addming more RAM might be expensive. DDR2 is becoming expensive

Journeyman Geek

though I don't run @bob level tabs

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek I've been on 64 everything for as long as forever

no, me neither

I run as few as possible

and still get angry at slow things are.

Hennes

I still need office 64

Journeyman Geek

@Hennes my older boxes tend to have parts consolidated as they fail

Bob

@JourneymanGeek :(

Hennes

14:24

Yup, same here. But after that I start to discard really old stuff

djsmiley2k

I only have 2 boxes :(

Hennes

So no more PATA disks.

djsmiley2k

I have lots of 'boxes' of stuff

plus about 4 spare computers floating around, but none in a condition i'd want to use

Journeyman Geek

yeah, sata, at least 512 mb of ram is my current minimal

Hennes

No more 8 bits SIMMs, no more DDR1 etc

512MiB also seems max for 32 bit OS
(not 4GiB, since you want unused address space ASR)

Journeyman Geek

14:25

the haiku/lubuntu box I use to log in as aibobot's 512mb of ram. Most of my personal gear's 8gb and up

(1024x768, 4:3 14 inch screen. Rocking it oldschool)

Hennes

Lets see.
Modern desktops #1 16GiB DDR4,
Modern desktops #2 16GiB DDR4,
Dell R300: 12GiB
Dell R300: 18GiB
Dell R300: no idea. Two GiB Spare parts system.
Laptop: 4GiB (maxed out)

Journeyman Geek

I may hook it up to a TV or sound system in future.

Rahul2001

    (\(\
    ( - -)
    ((') (')
A bunny!

Hennes

Hands the bunny a saucer of coke

Journeyman Geek

right now, one working desktop, one more I haven't decided what to do with (16 and 4gb) laptops 8gb (x220, razer blade stealth) 1gb (r61 x2) 512 mb (r60), NUC class machines - beebox (8gb) gigabyte brix (not in use) 2gb

I've gone through three brix on warranty so I'm not really using that much.

oh, and the stream (2gb)

*sends @Rahul2001 off to an IRC chatroom to think about what he did *

Hennes

14:32

oh, I forgot the dining room stuff:
Unused (and under layers of dust): Lenovo 3000 laptop (Pentium M740, that is single core era) with 2GiB.
Asus E701 surf (512MiB)
Spare motherboard Gigabyte EX58UD5 (18GiB).

Journeyman Geek

lol

Hennes

The latter board is probably broken though, and I have nothing which can use the DDR3 DImms (3x2GiB and 3x 4GiB)

Journeyman Geek

I want a pair of something like these next aliexpress.com/store/product/…

Hennes

I should just toss the Surf PC

Journeyman Geek

but that can wait for a job

Dog

14:33

Bleh. Lenovo putting an AMD R430 dGPU into a Kaby Lake laptop that is literally slower than the iGP and uses more power

Hennes

Looks like a nice thing. But yuck VGA out

Dog

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Hennes

Because than you can put 'dedicated GPU' on the box and sell more?

Journeyman Geek

@Hennes you wouldn't ever use the VGA after initial install

Hennes

Me neither, but I would need to go hunt for a VGA capable monitor.

Journeyman Geek

14:34

oh, I have one

Hennes

All recent stuff is DVI/HDMI or DP.
No VGA on monitors anymore

Journeyman Geek

the crossover does VGA, HDMI 2.0 and such

and I have a DP/VGA dongle

Rahul2001

Heh, India is still stuck on VGA

Journeyman Geek

lots of businesses are too

grumble

Rahul2001

I'm expected to take hdmi-vga converters when I go for presentations. Really?

Journeyman Geek

14:36

@Rahul2001 always be prepared.

Rahul2001

Yeah, learned that the hard way

Dog

@Hennes WellErf

Hennes

Yes, because business hardware is usually old.
And business IT mames things simple for end users by only offering one cable. (even if the beamers etc have modern connections)

Dog

Well I suppose it does come with 2GB of VRAM freeing up system RAM, and also freeing up some of the processor's limited TDP for higher turbo speeds

(a 2.4Ghz i7 will throttle to 1.4Ghz if the CPU and GPU are taxed simultaneously, for example)

Journeyman Geek

@Hennes and they can order new PCs in bulk, and not monitors

Hennes

14:38

That to. Not solid business case.

Journeyman Geek

and reuse whatever crappy old monitors they have until they fail

Hennes

And the AMD card might offer better outputs.
Though many switchable graphics systems only seem to offer output via the iGPU, And if you Nvidia/AMD card supports DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.0 but the iGPU doesn't then though luck

Bob

@Hennes "better outputs" ... in a laptop?

Hennes

Work laptop HDMI was insufficient to drive a modern diskplay

It maxed out at 1920x1200 (and a 2560x1440 screen)

It also failed to driver three or more display simultaniously

And yes, I was actively using 3 at that time

Bob

:\

Hennes

14:44

Quite a few laptops have X outputs put only drive X-1 or X-2 at the same time

Bob

@Rahul2001 dx.com/p/…

Hennes

I worked around that by adding USB to graphics ports

@Bob supports 1080P

Sounds like single link DVI

Bob

@Hennes That was for Rahul and his presentations.

I'm pretty sure a place that has a VGA projector ain't doing 1080p, let alone higher.

Hennes

Probably enough for a presentation beamer.

Journeyman Geek

lol

more likely 640x480

I actually do have one of those around, old and lightly used

Bob

14:47

@JourneymanGeek those were the days...

they're often at least 720 vert now though

Hennes

My own beamer is 800x600 (and has not been used in about a year)

Bob

or 800x600 as a min

Hennes

Or maybe 2 years

Plenty res. to watch a movie though. I television

Journeyman Geek

oh, my tv does VGA at 800x600 too

Hennes

There are many ways to make the world better: give to charity, recycle, reduce your energy consumption, design USB products according to spec, do volunteer work

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Journeyman Geek

14:53

yeah, still have plenty of VGA devices never used as such

lol

Hennes

Source: ux.stackexchange.com/questions/103552/…

allquixotic

@Hennes LOL

> design USB products according to spec

djsmiley2k

the spec is...

/me screams

Hennes

the spec is BIOS spec compatible?

Oh wait, there is no BIOS spec.

Bob

The USB spec actually isn't bad.

Reasonably readable.

More readable than a lot of RFCs.

Journeyman Geek

14:59

!!xkcd 927

ChatBot John Cavil

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob probably written by engineers ;p

allquixotic

I like the USD spec

> backed by gold

ha ha yeah right

Journeyman Geek

not since the 70s

Backed by the government's italian car ;p

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek lol

Why do they still have all that gold in Fort Knox then?

Hennes

15:06

Nope

It has been moved to the white house for gold plating

Burgi

@DavidPostill haven't you seen the third die hard movie?

Hennes

In other news, in the future it will also be known as the "Trump gold house"

DavidPostill

"the last audit of Fort Knox occurred in 1953, right after President Eisenhower’s inauguration. Except no outside experts were permitted, and only about 5% of the gold was tested. So there’s been no full audit in over 60 years!"

So it's all lies. The vault is empty and they sold all the gold :)

Burgi

it was all stolen by that fake eastern european guy

DavidPostill

The Biggest Government Lie in History?

Hennes

15:17

Streaming at home:

Rahul2001

I will get so pissed if Google shuts down hangouts

Ben N

The less popular 8.8.4.4 is slated for discontinuation.

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DenisKa

Hello... I tried to visit my router's webpage(192.168.1.1 or whatever you call) to change somethings but I found that link or port 80 was not responding?

Rahul2001

You aren't able to access the configuration settings?

Uh, are you sure of the IP?

DenisKa

yes

Rahul2001

15:30

Hm... Which router is it?

DenisKa

netgear. you want full model num?

Rahul2001

Would be helpful

DenisKa

Is there a way to find out without looking on the router?

Nick

@DenisKa try rebooting the router or even an alternate ip such as 192.168.0.1

Andy K

today, I have no weird questions

hopefully, tomorrow, I will not have to

Nick

16:16

You want a weird question. I got one. How can I verify I'm using the real internet and not a cloned and edited version where all you people are replaced by secret agents or perhaps worse, regular imposters.

WHATEVER Dave

Try 192.168.1.254

djsmiley2k

because something you put there is tehre, and you never told anyone else about it?

WHATEVER Dave

I wish the letter A in ASYNCHRONOUS had a meaning.

Like anti-synchronous

or something

DavidPostill

11

Q: Existence of an Intelligible Physical World beyond the Mind

Possible Duplicate: Are there any philosophical arguments to disprove or weaken solipsism? What justification(s) exist for the generally-agreed-upon axiom that a physical world beyond our mind both exists, and is knowable? This seems to be taken for granted, but rarely wrestled with in...

WHATEVER Dave

Or not "always" synchronous

maybe it means alpha

would make sense since alpha generally has bugs.

Burgi

16:22

@Nick what if you are just a bot?

Nick

@djsmiley2k Ok. I'm mostly accessing the real internet, then...hopefully.

Andy K

bye folks

DavidPostill

@Nick "You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes"

Nick

@Burgi My sentance structures are too complex to be that which is permuted by a simple minded bot. Also, I'm not sure I'd pass the turing test. So, don't try anything funny like administering it on me.

Burgi

WHATEVER Dave

16:25

qGphJD

Nick

@DavidPostill I've been taking the blue pill 3 times a day for the past 2 months or more. There's still something off putting with this reality....or maybe it's cleared up and I'm just clinging to the fractional moments it seemed strange. Anyhow, still living the same, following my usual interests, unsure if it's reckless but it's the best I can do with minimal exposition of what really goes on.

DavidPostill

May 31 '15 at 15:37, by allquixotic

May 31 '15 at 15:40, by allquixotic

Nick

@DavidPostill three

WHATEVER Dave

'please enter the magic eye solution in the textbox'

Blog bot

16:41

The 2017 Stack Overflow Developer Survey is Now Live

Kevin Troy on January 12, 2017

We’re back for another edition of the Stack Overflow Developer Survey, the largest and most comprehensive survey of software developers on earth. Every year, we include questions about your favorite technologies, coding habits, and work preferences, as well as how you learn, share, and level up as a developer.

Mokubai

17:01

@WHATEVERDave "a-" is an often used prefix that generally means "without" or "not", as in "asymptomatic" meaning "without symptoms"

WHATEVER Dave

damn

Mokubai

2

A: If the prefix "a-" means not, shouldn't "await" or "awaiting" mean, "Not waiting?"

Because the a- prefix came into English from at least two different sources. In ancient Greek, the privative a was used to indicate the negation or absence of the word to which it was attached. It is often used with words with Greek origins, and is treated as "productive," meaning that people sti...

Mokubai

17:20

i.imgur.com/9kyTPlQ.gifv

Gott im himmel...

Rahul2001

The dev survey still doesn't have options appropriate for kidzzzzzzz and studentzzzz

Mokubai

Should I get the Assassins Creed Humble Bundle? I've played most of the series, but missed Liberation, Unity and Chronicles...

allquixotic

@Rahul2001 So? "kids and students" don't make them any money so they don't care what they do. They're gathering data to report to their customers.

Rahul2001

@allquixotic :(

DavidPostill

17:38

You can earn a badge ...

70

Q: Introducing the Silver "Census" Badge!

tl;dr: In anticipation of our annual Developer Survey being ready to release any day this week, we're happy to announce a new badge: "Census". This is a silver badge that can be earned multiple times - once for each year you complete our annual developer survey, starting in 2017. The last few s...

discussion badges survey

djsmiley2k

18:03

@DavidPostill @Burgi @Dog got snow?

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k Not yet. Forecast is possible snow in a couple of hours. Don't usually get snow in L'pool ...

Mokubai

Got about half an hour of snow down on the south coast...

Raining most of the afternoon, then "wait, that rain looks a bit slow and fat..."

allquixotic

18:20

shop.syncstop.com/collections/buy/products/…

bwDraco

18:57

@allquixotic, you might be able to answer this:

0

Q: Eight-disk RAID-Z2 array has less capacity available than expected

I have a problem to explain the missing capacity in my raidz2 # zpool status -v nas pool: nas state: ONLINE scan: none requested config: NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM nas ONLINE 0 0 0 raidz2-0 ONLINE 0 0 0 ...

debian software-raid zfs raid-z

Burgi

19:18

@djsmiley2k nope, not forecast for here until sunday

djsmiley2k

o_O

Burgi

its really annoyed me that they shut heathrow at 5am and it didn't snow there until 3pm

they never cancel flights in oslo and it snows there constantly!

djsmiley2k

@bwDraco from the comment im just shaking my head

yah but we have shops in airports

lol srsly tho its because its cheaper not to prepare for it lol

DenisKa

19:34

@Nick I rebooted my router and I check with my neighbor they have different router but same ISP and they had same problem (or they don't know anything about it). and I tried 192.168.0.1

djsmiley2k

20:25

errm

Anonymous

20:49

Anonymous

yay, I did it

Anonymous

This lets me study abroad

DavidPostill

21:12

@Burgi Sunday?!

@PatoSáinz Congrats!

bwDraco

21:51

@PatoSáinz Well done.

(afk, got stuff to do)

Bob

22:47

hi

Ben N

Hi!

That Brazilian Guy

12 hours ago, by DavidPostill

@Dog Well clearly you are looking in the mirror and it actually says "God" on your forehead :)

@DavidPostill But wouldn't it say "ᗡO⅁" then?

Bob

23:18

@ThatBrazilianGuy What kind of messed-up mirror are you using?

DavidPostill

lol

@Bob An upside down mirror :)

Hennes

23:35

An Australian mirror?

Oh, UK did an 'EU-turn' on Brexit.
if it was less serious I would be laughing.

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob ...a perfectly normal one?

^--- ᗡO⅁

Bob

@Hennes ...what?

That Brazilian Guy

I wrote "GOD", in the mirror it becomes "ᗡO⅁".

Hennes

61% now in favour of stay.

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy Your backwards-G is also upside-down.

DavidPostill

23:39

⅁ is upside down and a mirror image (reversed).

Bob

@Hennes Yea, but... does that mean anything? UK gov still going forward with it, no?

Hennes

As far as I know, aye.

That Brazilian Guy

See even you are confused.

Hennes

Might mean a reversal though after next elections.

That Brazilian Guy

Or am I confused?

DavidPostill

23:41

@ThatBrazilianGuy Not as confused as you are :)

That Brazilian Guy

Damn, who am I?

Hennes

We all are foncused!

That Brazilian Guy

Am I @Dog?

Do I have to start ignoring @DavidPostill now?

Specially because he proved me wrong!

OH MY DOG I AM @GOD!

Bob

@Hennes If they've gone ahead and completed the process of leaving, they can't reverse can they?

What happens first, elections or leaving?

That Brazilian Guy

@Hennes We're a Chinese philosopher?

Hennes

23:42

As far as I know no. Once article 51 is invoked things should be in inrreversable motion.

But that is if rules are followed.
I suspect that if the UK says "Nope. we changed our mind. Cancel everything" that the rest of the EU might go along. Afterall brexit is bad for everybody.

That Brazilian Guy

23:58

> There is a highly effective phishing technique stealing login credentials that is having a wide impact, even on experienced technical users. (...) This attack is currently being used to target Gmail customers and is also targeting other services.

wordfence.com/blog/2017/01/gmail-phishing-data-uri

TL/DR: Watch out for legit-looking emails with attachments linked to data:text/html

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