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17:01
@AnimeshAshish Any more questions?
@AnimeshAshish Ah, okay
@Rahul2001 : A million to ask but all of them could simply be replied with "That remains private" :/
@AnimeshAshish Lol, try anyway? I'm just kinda secretive on the interwebs xD
@Rahul2001 : Could you add me on facebook so that I can text you when I need to ask some questions that are out of bounds?
@AnimeshAshish Email me?
@Rahul2001 Whats your email id?
17:05
@AnimeshAshish one sec
@Rahul2001 : Don't tell me you don't remember your email ID?
@AnimeshAshish 42 [at] rahul 2001 [dotcom]
@AnimeshAshish Just ran a quick check, server been giving me issues recently
Do you pay for the website that you've created on your name?
@AnimeshAshish I pay for the hosting. Created it myself
HOW much in INR?
17:07
Letest version under dev, check rahul2001.com/weblog for old stuff
Why dint you go for GoDaddy/Weebly?
@AnimeshAshish Around 5 USD per month
@AnimeshAshish @Rahul2001 Time for you guys to get a room :)
xD
@DavidPostill Yes
17:52
@AnimeshAshish, it really looks like you're trying to probe @Rahul2001 for personal information. Stack Exchange Chat isn't the best venue for private discussions as messages are publicly viewable, so please respect the privacy of others. Thanks.
Also, we try not to discuss pirating copyrighted materials here.
...never mind
Missed the timing.
18:28
!!/tumbleweed
 
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20:07
wow I slept in a lot sorry @AnimeshAshish
@Bob ever hear of "lame client channel" error? it's an error description returned by grpc. that's what I'm stuck on on Windows atm. the audio I/O stuff is 100% now
Some changes to Intel's low-end processors for the 7th (Kaby Lake) generation:
- Hyper-Threading Technology is now enabled on Pentium processors. The least expensive Pentium chip from this generation, G4560, costs about $70.
- ECC memory support has been removed from Celeron, Pentium, and Core i3 processors. You will need a Xeon processor this time around. However, Xeon processors and matching motherboards have been more widespread for the 6th (Skylake) generation. This will make building a home server with ECC memory somewhat more expensive (the cheapest Skylake Xeon E3 v5 processor runs $
@allquixotic Probably means the channel was kinda boring, or the current topic wasn't hip enough.
@MichaelFrank backhand
!!tell 34637705 no
lol
The addition of HTT to Pentium processors is a big deal because a lot of newer games expect four hardware threads and will perform poorly on a 2C/2T processor. Your thoughts?
20:13
CreateChannel returns a "lame channel" if creds is invalid or missing (cf. documentation)
@bwDraco if it's a genuine perf improvement and doesn't raise the price, that's very significant, for budget folks
probably the best thing to come to ultra low-end x86_64 arch in a long time (though, we do not currently know what Ryzen will offer in the low-end)
to me, it sounds like Intel is gearing up for a hard-fought war for the low end crown, predicting that Ryzen might put up a VERY strong fight
@allquixotic Yup.
Oct 26 '16 at 18:33, by bwDraco
Most modern games expect at least a 2C/4T processor
Oct 26 '16 at 18:36, by bwDraco
(2C/2T will usually result in degraded performance and may cause stuttering.)
AVX remains disabled on Pentium and Celeron parts.
@allquixotic Ryzen is going to be hitting Intel hard across the board, in all honesty.
All the way up to HEDT.
I doubt AMD will take the absolute performance crown for multithreaded applications, but it will, at a minimum, force Intel to drop processor prices.
@bwDraco see, that's the thing -- even if they can't claim "we have the fastest processor", as long as their performance per dollar is better than Intel's by a margin that consumers will notice (as well as system builders, and techies who help laypeople build systems, etc.), Intel has no choice but to cut into their profit margin to keep market share
and CPU prices have been up, lately, from what I've seen, and holding steady at a high price, so hopefully this will reverse that trend
That's why competition is good.
20:29
I'd love for Vega to do the same thing for Nvidia and we can call 2017 the Year of AMD's Resurgence
and/or the Year of Significantly Less Profit for Intel and Nvidia Because They Had to Drop Their Prices
Yup. Phoenix rising.
I'm pretty much wedded to NVIDIA for graphics because of my library of games (like you), but I'm open to a faster, cheaper processor from AMD.
Damn GameWorks vendor lock-in.
20:58
45 mins ago, by bwDraco
The addition of HTT to Pentium processors is a big deal because a lot of newer games expect four hardware threads and will perform poorly on a 2C/2T processor. Your thoughts?
Heck, even the PC release of Final Fantasy XIII (which is quite old by now) expects three hardware threads. It will lock up for several seconds at a time if it's allowed to run on only two threads (by setting CPU affinity on my machine).
@Burgi just a faulty driver
21:23
I was thinking about the "pirated Windows" incident a few days back. Can users get suspended for continued discussion of such forbidden topics?
@bwDraco That's one game that's on my "must finish one day" list.
People have a love-hate relationship with it. The game's completely linear all the way up to Chapter 11 (of 13).
@bwDraco If it's direct rule breaking, sure.
I think I gave up on it the first time, because I couldn't beat the Gilgamesh (dude on the horse?)
@MichaelFrank ...Odin?
Oh, yea.
21:25
That's really early in the game.
From memory, I was having real trouble with satisfying the stagger bar and I didn't want to look it up.
@MichaelFrank ...Gestalt gauge.
That's probably it. I got the game at launch, so it's been a few years since I actually played. Can't remember all the terminology!
Start with Libra (assuming you're not out of TP) and open up the enemy intel (LB on the Xbox 360 controller IIRC).
(a glitch may cause the text to not appear in the Enemy Intel page at resolutions other than 720p for whatever reason, so I run the game windowed)
The text will show what you need to do to fill up the Gestalt gauge. The Gestalt conditions are listed with "Yields to those who..."
> - Yields to those who amass chain bonuses.
- Yields to those who heal the wounded.
The above is for Odin.
> heal the wounded
You should have a Medic on your team. Set up your Paradigms accordingly.
I'd want to do COM/RAV/MED (Diversity) here.
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic I've never seen it, but @BenN's quote implies an auth issue
21:34
Granted, it's been a very long time since I've played FFXIII, but I still understand the game mechanics well enough to be able to help.
@Bob did you use gcloud auth default-credentials or did you create a json file to successfully auth grpc? on kynnaugh-cs
Hmm. So only two characters (Lightning and Hope) are present for the Odin fight...
COM/RAV to push the chain bonus, RAV/MED or MED/MED for recovery.
Okay, enough FFXIII talk.
so that freelance contract is odd
the owner of the shop has an american passport and relished in telling me how he voted for trump
and that he is a great man and will fix the entire world
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic I used your json
just pointed the envvar at it
oh, I had to remove the :443
his wife is odd and had a weird accent
21:48
Why is anyone of that odd?
hmmm?
@Bob ahh
22:33
Any mods around?
superuser.com/a/1164914 and it's abusive self-answer need deleting.
Good. It's gone.
 
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Anonymous
23:35
Hello everbody!
Anonymous
It's been a long time. I see the star wall is still being used as intended after all these months.
Anonymous
@JourneymanGeek @allquixotic ping
pongish
@PatoSáinz woing.
Why on bloody Earth are you trying to do this? Pro editions of desktop Windows are limited to two sockets, you'll need Windows Server. Single-threaded workloads will perform poorly as clock frequencies will be low; many enterprise workloads, like OLTP, are massively parallel which is why these sorts of servers exist. Besides, these sorts of systems are meant to be left unattended in a datacenter and hence are typically designed without regard for noise output. Expect to get hearing damage after a few days with the system. — bwDraco 11 secs ago
Anonymous
23:43
by any change do any of you dominate bash well?
Anonymous
I'm trying to solve a simpl-ish problem, but I suck at bash's arcane syntax
Anonymous
(f* you clippy)
Bob
Bob
@PatoSáinz don't make me !!meta you! :P
Anonymous
I almost can't remember Cavil's commands
Anonymous
!!meta
23:46
@PatoSáinz Please don't ask to ask; if you simply ask your actual question, we will help you if we know the answer or can help you find it. This is much faster and simpler than asking if it's OK to ask. As a rule, it is always OK to ask in this channel. Please go ahead.
@Rahul2001 yes. This is something I occasionally wake up in the morning and realise
Anonymous
I meta'd myself
I also doubt you have the electrical power to run one of these machines. Here in the US, these kinds of servers are typically designed for 20A sockets and assume a UPS and other fancy power equipment. In some cases, you may need a specialty outlet such as NEMA L5-30R, which is almost never found in residential environments. — bwDraco 8 secs ago
Bob
Bob
@PatoSáinz anyway, yea, you might as well ask the bash Q
<== def no expert, but hacking at it is fun
Anonymous
So, I have this script and I need to write its stdout and stderr both to stdout and stderr and to a variable that their content combined (most probably doing exec 2>&hgkghok juju magic)
Anonymous
23:48
There's a catch, though
Anonymous
I have no filesystem, so no temp files and no fifos
Anonymous
Everything must be done within the script itself
Anonymous
It's been a problem I've spent the whole day fighting with
Bob
Bob
@bwDraco Uhm. You realise that question was asked four years ago, right?
Anonymous
@Bob it's a posthumous comment. There's no such thing as necromancing in SE, right? :)
Bob
Bob
23:50
(also, 120V20A is only 2400W, which is pretty standard with 240V10A)
Anonymous
^(assuming a perfect power factor)
Bob
Bob
(also, you definitely don't need 2400W, or even 1000W, just to run quad-CPU)
I know, I know.
Bob
Bob
@PatoSáinz wait. how do you have no filesystem? o.O
do you have /tmp at least? that's in-memory
Anonymous
@PatoSáinz that stores their content*
23:51
But these sorts of servers typically require NEMA 5-20 power outlets.
Anonymous
@Bob nope, not even /tmp
Anonymous
It's running very early in boot
Anonymous
@JourneymanGeek mornin'
@PatoSáinz I consider myself a petty dabbler ;p
Bob
Bob
23:52
@PatoSáinz even then... pretty sure bash needs some semblence of a FS to work o.O
Anonymous
@Bob well I lied, I have read-only filesystems
That's uncommon at best in residential environments, typically found only in kitchens that use electric ranges.
Anonymous
so rules still apply, no tempfiles, no fifos
Anonymous
and it's been a living hell
Bob
Bob
@PatoSáinz do you have /dev? specifically, /dev/fd/?
Anonymous
23:53
I can't seem to conjure up the right lines in the script to get it to work, and most answers assume using files
Anonymous
@Bob hmm, will test
Anonymous
wait, nevermind
Anonymous
it's before udev
Anonymous
so no
Bob
Bob
wtf
23:53
@PatoSáinz definately a SU or U&L question
Bob
Bob
but
Bob
Bob
how do you access file descriptors other than 1, 2, 3?
Anonymous
but surely exec can redirect stdout and stderr to a variable (it can redirect to named pipes)
@bwDraco I think I have a 20A/240V socket in my bedroom
Bob
Bob
23:54
@PatoSáinz do you have /dev/tty?
Anonymous
@Bob hmm, no idea how to reply to that. Let's try anyway
Bob
Bob
do you care that stdout and stderr remain separate?
@JourneymanGeek That's probably for a room air conditioner or heater.
Bob
Bob
or do you just want both combined in a var, and both combined on screen?
23:55
though quite often, they don't bother and just go with a standard 13A socket of the gods (tm)
Anonymous
@Bob combined in var, separate on console
Bob
Bob
gah
whyyyyyyyyyyy
Anonymous
because it has to do with logging and stuff
Anonymous
a clusterf* but there's no better way
Anonymous
@JourneymanGeek will ask if chat fails
Anonymous
23:56
@Bob let's try using /dev/ fds anyway
Anonymous
and see if it works
Anonymous
I know this works: exec 7>&1 1> >(tee -a /logfile.log) 2>&1, but of course nothing gets written to the file because the fs is read-only
Anonymous
so that's why I need it to store it in a var for when the fs is remounted
@AnimeshAshish I think the general rule here is its ok to discuss piracy related current affairs, but if you must pirate, you should be smart enough to find your own sources, and not talk about it here.
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