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allquixotic

14:00

your total account rep will increase by 100 for each site you join, yes, but your per-site rep will stay the same

Bob

@allquixotic that's weird

allquixotic

@Bob h, just mixing things up a bit to befuddle and entertain

!!hv

ChatBot John Cavil

Bob

walking him through taking a video card out :D

well, he's technologically-competent so that helps

VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE can't be a good sign o.O

Mokubai

I hate cars

Bob

14:05

why does everyone and their dog use philips screws anyway

@Mokubai at least you didn't s/r/t/

Mokubai

@Bob True. Cats are great, especially our cats.

allquixotic

@Bob "I tried resetting the video card and it didn't wanna"

@Mokubai Eow?

Journeyman Geek

._.

What's with all the wierdly off topic questions today?

Mokubai

In chat or on site?

Journeyman Geek

On site

Bob

14:07

@allquixotic yea, that :P

Journeyman Geek

I've closed 2 so far

One's wierdly theoratical computer architecture, the other's basic electronics

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek What are some criteria to use to pick out high quality vendors of bulk cashews?

@Mokubai (don't worry, I'll attempt to ask some off-topic questions in chat too)

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic errrrr

We just buy em from the shop

and split em to make sure they don't have added protein in the form of insects.

allquixotic

but cats like eating insects

Journeyman Geek

Also, bulk to me indicates 50kg sacks

amusingly I'm sure if I walked into red man, they'd make a phone call, bill me, and ask me where I'd like it delivered

Bob

14:09

whoops

he took the wrong screw out

Journeyman Geek

on

Bob

@allquixotic taste test!

Journeyman Geek

superuser.com/questions/1161030/… migrated to world building

Bob

or Amazon apparently

s/marshmallows/cashews/

Journeyman Geek

@Bob funny thing is in the 80s, you could do this in most of asia

Mokubai

14:10

@allquixotic we have such a thing here?

Journeyman Geek

s/cashews/lube

Bob

@JourneymanGeek eh, you can still do that in markets here

Journeyman Geek

@Bob oh, there's probably places that they could do it

but the oldschool indian grocery is dead

allquixotic

aww

also, thank you for answering my question about cashews as I sit here eating them.... but it wasn't a serious question, I was trying to provoke a "hey, that's off-topic, what's going on today?!" reaction ;D

but apparently if your topic has an error in it, nothing is off topic

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic there's no real offtopic here

allquixotic

14:14

the mods should be able to temporarily rename the site in the <title> and the header image when they feel the community is acting dumb

for us it'd be Stupor User

Journeyman Geek

Funny thing is, while the singapore branch of the oldschool provision shop we used to buy stuff at closed... in 1998, I believe their malaysian branch in malacca is still around

@Bob personally I'm starting to think torx is not all that bad.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I like hex

Mokubai

@JourneymanGeek Torx is awesome compared to hex

Journeyman Geek

though, most modern cases have been going tool less and the thumbscrews on my current case do flat or cross

Mokubai

Hex are utter bollocks

Journeyman Geek

14:24

@Bob hex is ok for big screws

torx is better for smaller screws

Mokubai

M3 hex button head are utter crap

Journeyman Geek

now, the only issue I have with torx is my go-to set dosen't work with my electric screwdriver

Mokubai

Funny story, I managed to break a ball head hex driver off in the screw I was trying to remove.... spent the best part of a day tring to get that little cough basket cough out...

Bob

trying to teach someone how to unclip pcie

in the dark. at 1:30 AM. over the phone.

ow.

Mokubai

Ball drivers do mean you can get into weird angles, but that undercut makes them weak

Bob

14:27

and his board has a weird clip too :(

@Mokubai get a neodymium magnet

I got a nice big one for $20

so many uses

Mokubai

@JourneymanGeek They be standard hex drive normally

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai I have a small L shaped screwdriver for wierd angles

Bob

something like 40kg pulling strength

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai the bits in that kit are smaller than the bits for that screwdriver

Mokubai

@Bob No good for A2 stainless in aluminium...

Journeyman Geek

14:28

oh

Mokubai

With threadlock

Bob

@Mokubai the driver is stainless?

Journeyman Geek

and my dad owns one of these youtube.com/watch?v=Ny4H27Cs7fI (which is occationally handy)

Mokubai

The ball was small enough that it might as well have been... as mentioned M3 screws.

something like a 2.5mm hex drive

small

Bob

fail, the mobo manual doesn't include pcie card removal instructions

just installation insts

Dog

14:31

?

Journeyman Geek

cause no one ever upgrades video cards, clearly

Dog

Oh right

I was going to say, why would Bob need instructions on how to pull a PCIe card out -_-

Bob

5 mins ago, by Bob

trying to teach someone how to unclip pcie

5 mins ago, by Bob

in the dark. at 1:30 AM. over the phone.

33 mins ago, by Bob

yay remote troubleshooting a friend's pc

Dog

Yeah, I figured that out

Bob

I could do it in 10s tops if I were physically there

most of that trying to get my finger under there without getting scratched by some stray pin

Journeyman Geek

14:33

lol

Dog

Yeah, hence the "I was going to say" but didn't but then did

I broke the PCIe retaining clip on my Asus board the first time I used it :-/

Ironically it broke while inserting a card

Since then inserting and removing graphics cards has been a breeze....

Bob

@Dog lol

he just got it out

but yea breaking the clip... isn't really a big deal, as long as the backplate is clamped properly

Dog

I've never broken a PCIe clip before :-(

Mind you, this being a mITX board, you're never going to be sticking gigantic 10kg four-slot two-foot-long cards into it anyway

Does anyone else think "Ryzen" sounds stupid?

Journeyman Geek

yes

Dog

What are they going to call their server CPUs? Opterzen?

Bob

14:41

@Dog Opzeron?

Zenon?

Dog

@Bob MicroATX?

RyZenteron

Bob

@Dog idk, probably?

Dog

Opteryzem

Journeyman Geek

That's a lot of dust

Dog

That's not dust, that's a demon

Looks like an Ivy ~~Bri~~ BrRyzen system

Bob

14:45

@JourneymanGeek yea... might've had somethign to do with that gpu failure

he didn't know he had to clean it

Dog

Oh it failed?

@Bob Err...

Bob

45 mins ago, by Bob

decent chance his gpu just up and died o.O

Dog

You shouldn't have to know you have to clean it

Bob

42 mins ago, by Bob

VIDEO_TDR_FAILURE can't be a good sign o.O

@Dog it's not necessarily obvious to people who don't deal with hardware and never open it up

Dog

OEM PCs are generally designed to never have to be cleaned during their useful life...

Bob

14:46

@Dog they technically still work, just with lots of thermal throttling

Dog

Imagine working in a company with a thousand PCs and having to clean every one of them

Journeyman Geek

@Dog OEM PCs are also designed for a relatively limited lifespan

If they die, they get replaced.

Dog

3-5 years normally

Journeyman Geek

yup

and yeah, a system could last that long with no failures with terrible dust issues

djsmiley2k

@Dog dpending how well the offices are cleaned, it's not too bad

Bob

14:48

most offices aren't nearly as dusty as homes

djsmiley2k

but at my last job, it was industrial warehouse/factory shopfloor along with offices

the pc's in the warehouse, wel, ouch

Dog

We tend to get ours with a 4 year warranty

And that being an Ivy Bridge system, it can't be much older than that

@Bob Possibly why PCs survive there longer :-o

djsmiley2k

@Dog who?

Dog

Oh yeah, my unfiltered mITX machine is now being exposed to years of multiple cat hairs

@djsmiley2k "We"

allquixotic

1

A: Install VPN software Arris/Motorola svg6582 modem?

First, a Definition: Oversimplifying here, but a tunneling VPN basically involves a client (usually an end-user's computer running, e.g. Windows or Mac) and a server, where the client's desire is to appear to be at the same location as the server. This is accomplished by having the server "tunnel...

Dog

14:51

It's easier to type than "the folks at my last employer"

Journeyman Geek

lol

casino PCs are horrific

djsmiley2k

so no new work yet?

Dog

@allquixotic what about a burrowing or bridging or shipping VPN?

Journeyman Geek

carpet + smoking

djsmiley2k

booze in the air

D:

Journeyman Geek

14:52

@Dog I do "job -1"

or job -2

@djsmiley2k oddly, I never noticed any booze

djsmiley2k

I once fixed a beer drenched PC

Dog

Oh yeah

djsmiley2k

only for the next week it to become cat wee drenched

that was a step too far

Journeyman Geek

lol

Dog

I guess work PCs have had it much better since we made it illegal to smoke in any indoor spaces except your own home now.

Journeyman Geek

14:54

@Dog casinos have an exemption it seems, Rest of singapore is like that

they have smoking and non smoking floors, and smoking and non smoking rooms of various levels of more money than sensery

Dog

Smoking and non smoking PCs?

Journeyman Geek

smoking PC

Dog

Nowhere has an exemption here. Nowhere. I don't even think you can smoke in your own cars if kids are present

djsmiley2k

not sure if it's law yet

but it'll be like the no mobile phones

anywy

Journeyman Geek

The casino's kinda unique

REALLY good ventilation system tho

DavidPostill

15:05

@djsmiley2k It is in England and Wales, and now in since a few weeks as well bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-38184585

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill ah good

I don't smoke so i don't really take notice

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k See also bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35808647. I don't know if the cops now have the correct tickets to issue :)

djsmiley2k

lols

DavidPostill

"Police in England and Wales are "unable" to enforce a new law banning smoking in cars carrying children because there are no tickets which they can issue"

I'm sure they've fixed that loophole from nearly a year ago ...

Dog

I just realised laundry works by the same principles as homeopathy

You take the dirt from your clothes, and then dilute it with ever increasing amounts of water, until finally when you rinse it, the "water memory" of your dirt makes your clothes immune to the dirt for a while, so it just washes off.

@djsmiley2k I don't really take notice so I smoke everywhere

By smoke I mean, I be smokin' hot

djsmiley2k

15:24

@Dog erm wut

Journeyman Geek

by which you mean, people keep trying to set you on fire.

djsmiley2k

my clothes aren't immune to dirt when they come out the wash

Dog

Only in Asia is animal cruelty like this celebrated

djsmiley2k

my sons ability to get messy in 0.1 seconds of being changed it proof of this.

Dog

@djsmiley2k That's because once you've removed the water, it loses its memory

djsmiley2k

15:25

So homeopathy would work, if only people would stop peeing?

Dog

Well duh

> Lenovo's new and refreshed devices predictably come packing Intel's latest and greatest processors: the 7th generation or Kaby Lake Core-i series of processors. Some of the higher end models also have the option of Intel Optane 3D storage.

That's when you know it's another of Lenovo's vaporware stunts

Journeyman Geek

lol

they're also promising malware free installs

@Dog not as bad as the thinkpad anniversery edition

I do not like the keyboard layouts on the new X series gear

Dog

Well that'll be why everything's so slow then...

djsmiley2k

7

Bob

@Dog Heavil;y underclocked?

Dog

15:34

@Bob I was trying Core-M emulation mode :-P

Interesting discovery: Intel's overclocking utility will allow you to override your BIOS turbo mode/multiplier settings as long as it doesn't realise they're disabled in the BIOS

Bob

@Dog Wait. There's an emulation mode? O_O

Dog

IOW it "honours" your BIOS settings voluntarily, and doesn't let you override them unless you trick it.

@Bob No, just set the TDP to 15 watts :-P

Bob

ah

Dog

Which is... interesting

Because it means, it may be possible to overclock a lot larger range of machines simply by hacking it to ignore the BIOS setting

HackToHell

phew, certificate for company site going dead on dec 31

Forgot to add the damn cron job to renew it :/

Close call

djsmiley2k

15:53

wow close!

HackToHell

17:18

store.steampowered.com/bundle/575/?snr=1_7_7_topsellers_150_1

-92% :O

CIV V

How is insurgency I think @bob plays it ?

It's bloody cheap right now

Burgi

17:38

ugh...

i think i have the lurgy now too

HackToHell

17:55

@Burgi :(

DavidPostill

@Burgi Lurgi Strikes Britain

Burgi

exactly

DavidPostill

Minnie Bannister:
What is Lurgi?!

Seagoon:
Lurgi , Lurgi is the most dreadful malady known to mankind.

Minnie Bannister:
Oooooh!

Seagoon:
In six weeks it could swamp the whole of the British Isles.

Cast:
Rubbish!

Seagoon:
Now Gentlemen, Gentlemen, Oldham is already affected...

Politician:
What?

Seagoon:
At this very moment more and more people are contracting Lurgi.

Politician:
Is there any known cure for Lurgi?

Seagoon:
That there is! Let me tell you a tale. By continuous research I discovered that all victims had one thing in common.

Cast:
What is it?

Politician:
Out with it man! Out with it!

Seagoon:
None of them play in a brass band.

Dog

@HackToHell Yeah Ibought that yesterday

allquixotic

20:13

hi

Dog

Hi

Ben N

20:24

Hi!

allquixotic

@BenN Write-Host "hi"

firstnames-MacBook-Pro:~ firstnamelast$ powershell
PowerShell
Copyright (C) 2016 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

PS /Users/firstnamelast> Write-Host "hi"
hi
PS /Users/firstnamelast> $PSVersionTable.PSVersion

Major Minor Patch Label
----- ----- ----- -----
    6     0     0 alpha


PS /Users/firstnamelast> System.Environment.Version.ToString()
At line:1 char:37
+ System.Environment.Version.ToString()
+                                     ~
An expression was expected after '('.
    + CategoryInfo          : ParserError: (:) [], ParentContainsErrorRecordEx

@BenN on macOS :D

Ben N

Interesting

djsmiley2k

@Burgi welcome to my world :(

bwDraco

21:23

Deploying a major update to the main server for fierydragonlord.com. Some disruption may result but it should only be brief.

Burgi

i think i'm going to write a web tool that takes your steam wishlist and compares it against gog, humble bundle and others to work out which is cheapest and where you should buy it

there is probably already a site that des that but i need a project

djsmiley2k

sounds good, do ittt

Burgi

but i am totally disrupted by @bwDraco's server downtime! ;)

ok turns out there isn't a web API for GOG

djsmiley2k

21:47

BeautifulSoup it!

Burgi

22:03

ok turns out none of those 3 services have a public store API

allquixotic

@Burgi Selenium time

Burgi

there is an unofficial 3rd party one for steam

i'll start on it tomorrow

Dog

22:23

@Burgi Enhanced steam sorta does that already I believe

Yup, it does that already

allquixotic

cmd-corp.com/Winders

1. "CMD" corp - ha ha
2. first google hit for "winders CE"
3. pronounce "winders" as "win-durrs" not "whine-durs"

4. Appleton, Wisconsin

Burgi

@Dog is that a 3rd party client?

allquixotic

no, it's a 10th party client

That Brazilian Guy

Yay party!

That Brazilian Guy

23:24

@Dog Steam has different prices for each country, that's... weird.

Journeyman Geek

23:45

@Burgi Razer cortex might

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