Root Access

Psycogeek

09:01

@Bob uhh i guess, I just thought more like if EVERYONE with a consumer PC uses the same patterns, then if i am different, they wont make a piece of hacker lameware kiddiescript , that works as easily on my computer.

When i wondered why MS didnt mix it up and allow personalisation on install, i then remembered that were all idiots , and none of us would know how to follow any directions for fixing it.

as far as security, i am sooo far behind, that somone should be hacking this computer , right now. well at least they are trying :-)

Mokubai

I should have looked at how large GTA:V was before buying it...

66gigs... going to be downloading for a while.

Psycogeek

you could always order the floppy disk set :-)

Mokubai

Psycogeek

1 day shipping

Mokubai

@Psycogeek I wonder if I could get it on Amazon Prime

Psycogeek

09:10

and it would only take 77 days to load the floppies in

Mokubai

+ another day for the USB floppy drive to turn up

I haven't had a machine with a floppy drive in at least 8 years...

Maybe there should be a Steam game download service where you pay a couple of quid for someone with a fast connection to download it for you and bring over a USB3 drive...

Psycogeek

what is interesting, and Just like the MS OS, much of the Fat Pigedness and multitude of files is all the Languages. I have some repacks of things that are my language Only, they half as big. While that would be a hassle to make different packages, and insure the right people get them. the gaming community could probably save 845 Petabytes in 2 years (yea i made that up) save 30% of all bandwidth, reduce global warming, and save millions on servers.

but the f-- devs cant even keep up with the problems already facing them.

we could hire them efficency experts , to finish the packaging , and have another person to blame for the failures

Mokubai

I suspect Steam (and other content providers) don't want the headache of either detecting the user preference and giving them a localisation or they don't want the annoyance of streaming the language packs as needed. Easier all around just to give the user the lot and let them decide

Psycogeek

which worked out much better when it fit on a CD :-)

Mokubai

I would say they could supply it on blu-ray, but I don't have a drive for that either

bbiab, gotta go disconnect a car battery

Bob

09:23

@Mokubai wolfram alpha :P

Journeyman Geek

"will send you a replacement unit once we receive the product and the product is proven to have the problem as you described. Thanks for your patience!"

Yay!

Bob

@JourneymanGeek wgat;s tgus?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob the smartwatch

Bob

ah, nice

Psycogeek

yay ? since when would the problem be repeatable at thier location, with them testing it, with the stupid test robot,

Journeyman Geek

09:26

loool

@Psycogeek cracked screen...

PRETTY sure it would take magic to uncrack a screen

Psycogeek

oh, yea they will just say user error

out of each 100 bad reviews for products, how many have said "shipped it back, they fixed it, i am happy now 5 stars" ?

Rahul2001

Hellooooo

Psycogeek

98times out of 100, it is , talked to tech, shipped it back, wasted my f---ing time

Journeyman Geek

lol

Usually its frustrating but I manage to get things fixed

Psycogeek

which should be providing a clue to all of us, that if it dont work out of the box, RUN

Journeyman Geek

09:41

Oh. This worked out of the box

Psycogeek

i am working on my next kickstarters. what are humans most repetitive activities in the home? the ones that are never done, and endlessly repetitive? laundry, dishes.
Dish Drone: detects dirty dishes and puts them in the dish cleaning drone.
Clothes Bot, discovers all clothing on the floor that smells like a locker room, and moves it into the laundry.

Mokubai

@Psycogeek the most common tasks are breathing and staring mindlessly at a box of magic lights.

Psycogeek

take about 20 minutes to whip up a fake video , i mean Prototype , collect like 2 million dollers, send 150k to shezwan to have it made in china. ignore 47 pages of comments about it not working, and rolling in it

ahh breathing. hmm china has some nice new pumps for air that are very small, very powerfull, and run for at least 2-3 hours before failing.

we should correlate the process of breathing with aquiring hundreds of viruses and bacteria, add a filter on the product, then scare the whole planet into buying it

Soon the new england journal of medicine will have multiple articles in it about how people who continue to breathe for themselves are dying off in droves. that without the Breath Alive assisted breathing device, and complimentry bluetooth application the chances of dying are .0000100% higher

Psycogeek

10:07

for the few holdouts, we will provide the first one FREE (like the many other addictive drugs pharmicudical companies push on greedy doctors) a few days later thier diaphram muscles are useless for breathing anymore and OWNED.

that still leaves 45billion dollers for the lawsuits , class action medical malpractice suits , and for the 30 lawyers needed to protect the patent

Kenshin

hello

Mokubai

Arrrr

Kenshin

is taylor swift on topic

Psycogeek

when applied to cucumbers (of course)

Kenshin

how to gain root access to taylor swift?

Psycogeek

10:21

the black roots or the blonde ones?

Kenshin

i dunno does the carpet match the drapes

Bob

room topic changed to Root Access: For all you Super Users out there. You have backups, right? Current topics: E̷RROŖ:̀͞ TOP͟͡҉I͏Ć ̀͟N̢Ó́͘T̛ ̛҉FO̷͟UN̷͟͝D̶̡̨ [computers]

Psycogeek

hmm, let me find out, i just need to open this attachment in the "Taylor Swift nakid pictures please click" e-mail, and find out for sure.

Bob

psst, if the topic change wasn't a clue: let's keep this room PG, yea?

Journeyman Geek

sigh

Yes please!

Kenshin

10:41

Yes pls

psycogeek, bit too far mate

Psycogeek

yes i think your right, those pictures were fake, who woulda known :-)

Kenshin

lol

Mokubai

@Bob I suspect that may have been a bit too subtle... do we have a backup of the old topic?

Journeyman Geek

11:00

@Mokubai grabbed it off the transcript

room topic changed to Root Access: room topic changed to Root Access: For all you Super Users out there. Current topics: Technology, Taylor Swift, Haggis and Cucumbers. You have backups, right? [computers]

hmm

Mokubai

Wasn't meaning to change it back, I just thought the "ERROR: TOPIC NOT FOUND" worked well with the "you do have backups?" line

Journeyman Geek

ah ;p

oops

room topic changed to Root Access: Root Access: For all you Super Users out there. You have backups, right? Current topics: E̷RROŖ:̀͞ TOP͟͡҉I͏Ć ̀͟N̢Ó́͘T̛ ̛҉FO̷͟UN̷͟͝D̶̡̨ [computers]

Mokubai

Hmmm. Days off without wife are weird.

When she's around I/we just play games, but when she's not here I don't know what to do...

Journeyman Geek

lol

play games?

Mokubai

Do I watch a film? Play a game? Browse the internet mindlessly? What?!?! I don't know....

Urgh. And MS made "Libraries" annoying to find in Win10

Journeyman Geek

11:04

hang out on chat works

Hennes

Answer questions on Super User. ;)

Journeyman Geek

but then again I do that and answer questions ;p

Psycogeek

i have a detection that you have no direction

Journeyman Geek

but I got 2 goals ;p

Mokubai

@JourneymanGeek I don't like football :P

Hennes

11:05

How are they hard to find?
I mean, I did google on how to disable them since they keep showing and wasting space

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai 10K on MSE and 100K on SU ;p

Mokubai

In Win10 they went back to the old "plain" folders by default for videos, I got a new computer and can't find the damn libraries again

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek in your USB answer did you mean "splicing"?

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi this is almost certain

Mokubai

Ha. Found the "Show Libraries" button

Burgi

11:07

@JourneymanGeek fixed

Journeyman Geek

Thanks

I still think that would have been better as a sarcastic aibobot answer tho ;p

Burgi

i was sat here for ages trying to work out how you "spicing" a USB cable

Journeyman Geek

;p

Mokubai

@Burgi Allspice works well, much flavour

Burgi

@Mokubai is that compatible with Win10? ;)

Journeyman Geek

11:09

Sure. Cinnamon goes well with apple...

Burgi

heh

Mokubai

@Burgi Depends if you got the ProFoods Edition

Journeyman Geek

(I'm ~~a dog~~ dyslexic. And I rely far too much on spellcheck)

Mokubai

@JourneymanGeek It'd be nice to hit 40k before the new year, but I'm not too fussed...

Burgi

i just assumed it was super fast typing and your ~~fingers~~ paws just missed a key

Journeyman Geek

11:13

@Mokubai not really got a fixed goal, but I figure I'd make the most of being unemployed ;p

Mokubai

Journeyman Geek

lol

yup

Mokubai

You're three months older than me

Journeyman Geek

tho I think magicandre is right at my heels.

Mokubai

@JourneymanGeek Oooh, 9 points behind... one strategic upvote could ruin everything... ;)

Journeyman Geek

11:18

I do have 3x the answers ;p

@Mokubai eh, Not fussed ;p

I'm looking at the bigger picture

Mokubai

What, like at a cinema?

I thought you weren't allowed to take laptops in there

And they probably need that screen to show films rather than SU chat...

;)

Journeyman Geek

I do actually have a projector...

Mokubai

Do you use your SU profile as part of your CV?

Journeyman Geek

eh, not really

Singaporean employers mostly don't care about that sort of thing

Mokubai

Yeah, I kinda suspect the same here.

Journeyman Geek

11:22

IF I'm applying to places that are famous for that sorta thing

maybe

but rivercorp didn't seem to care at all.

Next place is basically another bodyshop like my last one if I get this

but I do get government funded sysadmin training

Mokubai

Nice

Journeyman Geek

(and government covers a year of my pay, so... eh)

Mokubai

Very nice

Journeyman Geek

for them ;p

If it works out,2 year bond, then we see

Also, I can find out what the heck my mom is plotting ;p

Mokubai

Uhhhh

Remind me not to route my emails through Singapore

Journeyman Geek

11:24

So, my mom's mentioned at least two nice young ladies in my community, at least one of whim I have met who are a fair bit younger than me as "oh, I was thinking of asking them if they're interested in an alliance"

so clearly she has someone in mind

(alliance = oldfashioned term for matchmakey things)

Mokubai

She's trying to get you hooked up and out the door huh?

Journeyman Geek

yup

Which I'm entirely fine with

Mokubai

If both parties are fine with it then I've not got a problem with arranged marriages, but I don't think that they should be decided at birth

Journeyman Geek

naw

we're all modern and stuff

Well, no

I told her "no, NO INTERNET MATCHMAKING"

but its vaguely like speed dating ;p

Mokubai

You do at least need a chance to get to know the person

Journeyman Geek

11:33

eh. Totally the same way internet dating works. ;p

I'm not actually sure what's the protocol if she's local

Mokubai

But you can hide so much on the internet

@JourneymanGeek No stalking.

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai We're very much the last bits of victorian culture left ;p

Mokubai

Nothing wrong with the victorian culture

Hmmm.

Not sure that car battery is charging

Journeyman Geek

lol

Its the easiest way to 'get' us

But the funny thing is 'my' generation seems to be vaguely americanising...

Mokubai

There's no culture on this side of the world... not any more.

Journeyman Geek

11:38

(me? I'm a geek)

Mokubai

Hold on to it while you can

Journeyman Geek

You'd be suprised

Most people don't think about it though

especially outside the superficial things

Heck, I wouldn't have if not for my own odd little rebellious phase ;p

Mokubai

Oh I know there are all the little oddities that you get from groups that are all from the same area, that sort of culture, but cultures in general seem to have become "less cultured" and more insular.

Journeyman Geek

lol

That's vaguely what I mean by victorian ;p

Extremely externally concervative, somewhat rootless

Mokubai

People can and should be proud of where they are from, but not so much so that they actively hate other cultures

Journeyman Geek

11:44

unsure of what we really ought to be in the modern world, but vaguely tenously holding on to vestiges of old ways ;p

Mokubai

I honestly don't know if I'm conservative or something else

Journeyman Geek

lol

Mokubai

I keep trying to figure out the labels but they're all kinda meaningless

Journeyman Geek

Personal/cultural concervatism. There's a whole load of things that simply arn't done

then they get done anyway, with much tsk tsking

Mokubai

Just be happy to be you and celebrate your heritage

Journeyman Geek

11:46

lol

I love what I see it as

which isn't really what my parents see it as.

Mokubai

Hmmm. Battery charger says 4ADC, and it's been on for a little over two hours, so the 40AH battery should be (maybe) 1/4 charged

don't want to leave it on too long tho

@JourneymanGeek it very rarely is

Journeyman Geek

yup

So I'm open to this. I just want to know what she's up to ;p

Mokubai

Fair enough, hope it works out for you :)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Job first ;)

Burgi

i'll be honest, i'd take the girl first

Mokubai

11:53

@Burgi Depends on the girl, does she have money or does her dad own a brewery?

Journeyman Geek

^ ;p

Burgi

lol

Journeyman Geek

Also, being employed is pretty essential to be " in the market"

Mokubai

This is true.

Burgi

that is a fair point

Mokubai

11:58

You said you had something coming up though didn't you @JourneymanGeek?

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai hopefully

Mokubai

Long term, or contract?

Journeyman Geek

I'm supposed to get a call some time soon from a prospective employer

2 year bond

Mokubai

Could be worse, gives you a time to get comfortable and plenty of warning for the next one...

Journeyman Geek

yup

Mokubai

12:00

I'm assuming a bond is better than a contract in that it's a bit more secure?

It sounds it

Journeyman Geek

hmm

So, here's how it works

Government pays for part of a year of my salary + training

the employer has to keep me for 2 years, and I can't quit without paying a penalty

Mokubai

so almost an enforced contract?

Journeyman Geek

yeah

but my last contract has a early termination clause that was pretty terrible too

and I'd rather the security

Mokubai

in some ways better, as you get more security, but you have less choice about moving on

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Mokubai

12:03

I could deal with that

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek you should set up a dog walking and tech support company

Mokubai

and free training is good

Journeyman Geek

The security feels attractive

and improves my marketability

Burgi

Byte The Hand

Journeyman Geek

and of course, networking chances

Mokubai

12:04

Aye, I much prefer job security.

Journeyman Geek

lol.

I actually suspect the last place would love to have me back if I wasn't so expensive

Mokubai

Well, cheap and experienced is the best kind of labour

Journeyman Geek

(the body shop contracting us out made an opening offer that was significantly more than I expected, I accepted. Turned out it was roughly the same as someone 2 grades above me)

Mokubai

But experienced people need more money

Journeyman Geek

doggy needs his ~~chewtoys~~ hardware ;p

Mokubai

12:07

though doggy had his shiney hardware

Journeyman Geek

lol

Mokubai

all the latest doggy toys

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, actually I'm pretty happy with my current setup.

Mokubai

I've finally caught up with this decade

Journeyman Geek

Also, I'm almost old enough to be able to be eligible for a public housing flat as a single

Mokubai

12:08

My old rig is due for pillaging as soon as I copy off the last bits

Journeyman Geek

lol

actually no, 2 years away

Mokubai

You get free housing?

or just reduced rent?

Journeyman Geek

naw

public housing is somewhat cheaper

Mokubai

Are they trying to keep people single?

Journeyman Geek

and if you're smart you can save a bit through grants

naw, they want people getting married ;p

Burgi

12:10

the UK needs to build 300,000 homes a year for the next 5 years

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi most people here live in apartment blocks

Mokubai

@Burgi not anymore they don't, I've finally got mine.

Journeyman Geek

I doubt I can find anything near enough and new (which is cheaper) to get a grant for living near my parents

Burgi

i don't think i am ever going to be able to afford a house

Journeyman Geek

but there's grants for being a first time home owner, + part of it is paid off from the mandatory retirement fund + some other things.

Mokubai

12:12

@Burgi We only managed it through one of those shared ownership schemes

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi moving out as soon as possible is totally going to be essential for my sanity ;p

Mokubai

Renting a house is like pouring money down a drain

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai I can live with my parents semi indefinately, until I can get a place of my own

but personal space would be nice

Burgi

forget this HS2 crap, they need to build houses/flats and limit their sale to first time buyers

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi that's roughly how it works here

though they build according to current demand rather than planning ahead to a large extent

and my current area's unlikely to have 'new' public housing

Bob

12:14

@Mokubai ha, that was actually completely unintended

Journeyman Geek

and resale is pricy

Burgi

they sold off all the public housing in the 90s

Bob

I'm mildly disappointed no one starred it though :P

Mokubai

@Burgi and spent the next 20 years complaining that there's no public housing

Journeyman Geek

@Mokubai the public housing system here, least until the last decade was the shining jewel of singapore public policy

Its still alright, though too many folks are treating it as an investment vehicle, rather than as "a home"

We've lived here... 25 years?

and I wouldn't upgrade from whereever I live unless I needed more space for potential child processes.

Burgi

12:20

you mean puppies

Journeyman Geek

Yes. Puppies.

Burgi

;)

Mokubai

Kittens are better than puppies. Puppies make mess.

Journeyman Geek

eww. Kittens.

Burgi

hides

Journeyman Geek

12:22

With their beady eyes, and beaks and quacking...

Burgi

mod war!

Journeyman Geek

(actually, my local kittens have grown quite a bit from when I last saw em)

Burgi

OMG! they should totally have a mod top trumps!

DavidPostill

@Mokubai @JourneymanGeek If we are going to brag :)

Rahul2001

Hello!

DavidPostill

12:25

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill Oh, I didn't bring it up ;p

Burgi

@DavidPostill don't forget the hats one....

Mokubai

@DavidPostill Wait, you're only 2 and a half years old?!?!

Burgi

@Mokubai thats why he doesn't have any hair

Mokubai

Well, that explains a lot. Though not the hat...

That Brazilian Guy

12:27

@Rahul2001 You can't deny, I've posted photographic evidence!

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy clearly to distract everyone else. You're Elvis arn't you?

Burgi

i'm going to spend £40 on games...

DavidPostill

@Burgi You mean this one? :)

Burgi

yes

loving the monocle btw

DavidPostill

@Burgi thx :)

That Brazilian Guy

12:31

@JourneymanGeek I will neither confirm nor deny that I'm actually a Brazilian rocker from the 70's who was suspiciously fond of performing Elvis covers and even more suspiciously named Raul...

Raul Seixas

Raul Santos Seixas (Portuguese pronunciation: [ɦaˈuː ˈsejʃɐs]; 28 June 1945 – 21 August 1989) was a Brazilian rock composer, singer, songwriter and producer. He is sometimes called the "Father of Brazilian Rock" and "Maluco Beleza", the last one roughly translated as "Cool Crazy". He was born in Salvador (Bahia), Brazil, and died of pancreatitis in São Paulo. Every year on Seixas' birthday, legions of fans, including hundreds of impersonators (many even changing their last name to Seixas as a sign of idolatry), throw a parade in his honor in downtown São Paulo. His body of work consists of 21 albums...

Mokubai

@ThatBrazilianGuy You died of pancreatitis?

That Brazilian Guy

@Mokubai ~~Elvis died and is still alive, why can't I do the same?~~ No, that'd be silly!

Burgi

euro truck sim... do i buy it or not?

Hennes

Nope/

Mokubai

@Burgi Is that a trick question?

Burgi

12:37

no

Hennes

If you need to ask then it is not a "clear YES".
And in this season most people spent more than intended. So my answer is a simple one. Nope. DO not buy.

Burgi

good argument

That Brazilian Guy

@Burgi You totally should buy this one, 12k positive reviews, and it's 50% off!

Hennes

AFK - possibler 14-ish hours of board games starting in 20 minutes

Burgi

@ThatBrazilianGuy its only 40pence

i might as well

That Brazilian Guy

12:40

Dude, it was a joke...

It's probably not even worth 50 cents

Burgi

oh ok

Mokubai

Don't, it's not worth it @Burgi

hangs head in shame

Burgi

you bought it?

Mokubai

many many many moons ago (2,374 to be exact)

Burgi

i have about £3 left to spend, any suggestions?

Mokubai

12:42

What types of games you like?

Burgi

i'm easy

@Mokubai steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197971260826

thats my profile

Mokubai

How did you find Remember Me?

Burgi

terrible

some nice ideas poorly executed

Mokubai

Awesome, pretty much what I thought. Glorious well executed world, crappy QTE based hallways and crap music based combat.

Burgi

its like the turn of the century oni (by bungie) but not as good

Mokubai

12:46

Mark of the Ninja

or Don't Starve

Burgi

mark of the ninja looks good

same link...?

Mokubai

Oh wow, Dishonoured is only £2.50. That one was quite good

Burgi

i own that

i think

yeah, it was part of the ID/bethesda pack

Mokubai

fixed links, dang copy/paste

bit pricier: Tomb Raider

Burgi

i got that too, not played it yet

Journeyman Geek

12:52

I'm pondering watchdogs 2

Mokubai

@Burgi Worth playing, I'd recommend using a controller though

Burgi

i have a steam controller

Mokubai

Is that any good? I've just got an Xbox controller...

Burgi

its alright, i means i don't have to do the magic 3rd party driver dance to get the PS3 controller working

that said i can't get the steam controller to work on my macpple top

Mokubai

TBH, that's why I got the Xbox 360 controller

Little to no faffing around

Burgi

12:57

i find the xbox controller enormous

i got the controller 50% off over quakecon weekend

but playing FPS games with a controller is the evil

Mokubai

Totally, but for over the shoulder nearly-platform games like Tomb Raider it is much better

Burgi

that and racing games is why i bought it

Journeyman Geek

I played/liked tomb raider with keyboard and mouse

Burgi

i should have bought the tomb raider mega pack last summer in the summer sale

Journeyman Geek

ah. Going to wait for summer/lower prices ;p

Burgi

13:06

all the tomb raiders for a fiver

Journeyman Geek

Oh, I bought ryse

lovely game, but really not worth list price. For a fiver though, its probably a good solid weekend's entertainment

Burgi

fracking sun is blinding me

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi you clearly need a giant satillite to blot out the sun locally.

Burgi

heh

well my mum is being kept in for another day

shes up and about making a nusance of herself

DavidPostill

@Burgi That's a good sign she is feeling better ;p

Journeyman Geek

13:18

erf

allquixotic

13:53

Eow

'm a cat with a buggy PulseAudio implementation in a VM that drops the first few playback/capture samples

ee that the room topic has changed to Zalgo...

Alan Watch

a question about 200 reputation reached achievement..will I get +100 for every site I've joined?

Bob

yay remote troubleshooting a friend's pc

allquixotic

@AlanWatch superuser.com/help/privileges

Bob

decent chance his gpu just up and died o.O

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