Root Access

DavidPostill

12:04

@Burgi Mergers and aquisitions rather than bankrupt - virgin media is telewest + ntl (who both gobbled up the smaller local cable companies).

djsmiley2k

what's the windows tool that lets you 'reinitalise the install' ?

Rahul2001

@djsmiley2k reset/refresh

djsmiley2k

We get a load of HP laptops, want to remove all the crap, image it, use that image on the rest

but obv. diff keys (windows 7)

Ah sysprep

Bob

@djsmiley2k sysprep

gah, I really should read the rest before responding

djsmiley2k

hehe

@Bob will it nuke the product key?

Bob

12:12

can't remember :\

Journeyman Geek

I think it will.

djsmiley2k

Running Sysprep will cause Windows Welcome to prompt you for a product key. You can use an answer file with Sysprep to prevent Windows Welcome from prompting you for a product key. If you specify a valid product key in the ProductKey setting of the Microsoft-Windows-Shell-Setup component during the specialize pass, then Windows Welcome will not prompt you for a product key.

drat

Bob

apparently it won't if you had an OEM key baked into the image

you'd have to remove the key first

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I finally found a use for my second monitor :P

Journeyman Geek

12:15

oh?

Bob

(chucked one of those slideshow music video things on it. looks pretty.)

now if only they were 4k... and my net could handle it...

Journeyman Geek

looool

@Bob working with a single screen feels like missing a paw

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I never really do anything at home where a second screen would help

at work, sure, having devtools open on a second window is occasionally useful

Journeyman Geek

@Bob researching answers ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek happens on main screen for me

Journeyman Geek

12:23

right now, I'm watching youtube on one screen and talking to you lot on the other

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...funny that, I'm 'watching' (read: listening to) yt on one :P

left one for the video here

Journeyman Geek

My right screen is usually my primary

._.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek yay! :P

Journeyman Geek

I can't share the full extent of the WTFery but

-1

A: POE Adapter + TP-Link Outdoor CPE blinking light

Remove Power Cable and then Remove the CoverSafly and then Broke one side of the D18 and put the power Cable your Device will work. Note: If Posible Replace D18 for Better result. if Not Available Don't Worry your Device will work Good. but for Wireless Connection after Start the Device, you will...

Burgi

> Click Her to See Image

djsmiley2k

12:29

I can't click

D:

Burgi

o.O

djsmiley2k

I can, but I haven't yet...

someone confirm sfw?

Journeyman Geek

SFW

Just painfully stupid

he literally cut a diode

djsmiley2k

/mes tupidly cuts

errr clicks

Bob

@JourneymanGeek by that do you mean that's a legit ISP rep? o.O

Burgi

12:30

you didn't fix the grammar @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

@Bob er no.

@Burgi going to delete it

its actively harmful

djsmiley2k

Was that answer suggesting you just cut it out?

Journeyman Geek

....

Yes

djsmiley2k

D:

Bob

@djsmiley2k s/cut/break/

s/break/broke/

djsmiley2k

12:32

ok,i'm so confused :D

So, take 1 'imaged' windows laptop, OEM install. (i.e. it's delivered to us, with some software preinstalled by our suppliers.)

It also has all the HP crap. I want to remove said crap, image it, apply that image to futher laptops they supply us

Journeyman Geek

that's how its supposed to work

djsmiley2k

ok

cept keys/activation?

Journeyman Geek

If its a HP OEM install, chances are simply removing the crap and throwing it in should work

assuming its the same model

djsmiley2k

yup, i know I can't go switching up models, that's fine

Burgi

o.O

djsmiley2k

12:37

@JourneymanGeek yeah, therein lies the problem

'testing' this isn't going to be easy

Burgi

> 2016-12-07 12:21:24 xx.xx.xx.xx 418 POST /scp/ajax.php/lock/ticket/78 - HTTP/1.1

a 418...

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k take 2 PCs, swap the drives between them, see what happens?

djsmiley2k

102

Q: Stack Overflow returning HTTP error code 418 (I'm a teapot)?

First a little background: I recently wrote a reverse proxy which I have found to work wonderfully so far, and being an avid Stack Overflow user, I thought I would try it out there. I was just playing around and everything was working perfectly, until I hit one page that suddenly returned HTT...

@JourneymanGeek ooo yah that's a possiblity

I don't even have the laptops yet, but interesting idea

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k I used to have the same laptop my dad did and used to yonk the recovery disks from him since I'd install things like linux

same idea

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek I expect I maybe able to generate hp recovery media before starting any of this

all depends what they give me to play with.

Journeyman Geek

12:42

@djsmiley2k one set of recovery media would be a very good idea

imaged, and stored in a few places

djsmiley2k

one good set.

At the mo the person in charge admits they don't really know what they are doing, and just do enough to get it done

i.e. plug it into network, get windows updates for 3 days, done

community.spiceworks.com/topic/…

ah ha!

Journeyman Geek

.... One is none.

djsmiley2k

my brain hurts

volume licencing, blah blah

it'll be easier hopefully to put something together to remove all the crap :D

Journeyman Geek

Also... Get updates for 3 days what?

djsmiley2k

yeah don't ask, I don't know why it takes the laptops 3 days to get up to date

Though I am wondering if they come with a volume licenced key on there already... because they are all coming from one master image that someone here, made, long ago

Hennes

12:59

@JourneymanGeek Uh, windows 7 compatible updates. Yeah, no magic tricks means 3+ days

Journeyman Geek

Wsus offline updates is very nice if you want to have that speeded up

Anna duh

TIL...

allquixotic

hi

Burgi

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-38223552

i just checked my fivers and i only have AE60 numbers...

Bob

13:15

hi

Burgi

what is it with trump and walls? bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38228037

allquixotic

@Burgi I don't know, but he is the Person of the Year for reinventing the wall, apparently

Bob

@Burgi maybe he meant wors?

> The original application cited rising sea levels as a result of climate change as a key reason for the protective barrier.

Burgi

@Bob a 2 mile sausage...

@Bob i lol'd at that too

Bob

> The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive. -- Donald J. Trump

allquixotic

13:23

@Bob Oh, but his business "organization" can acknowledge that it exists when it's convenient for them

Burgi

lol

allquixotic

he just can't stand in front of his lunatic supporters and tell them that global warming is a thing, because he'd never get elected that way

if he said that during his campaign, Hillary would have won

he is the ultimate panderer to the stupid

Burgi

do you think the furry alien that lives on his head and controls him realises what damage it is doing?

Journeyman Geek

13:37

@Burgi yes

@Bob he clearly had trouble getting the sea to pay for it

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek or the snails

Journeyman Geek

yup

djsmiley2k

@allquixotic sadly I can't blame him

Burgi

> Don’t be sending your pictures of thigh-gaps and legs of different lengths, promoting unrealistic body images within the company.

Junior PR Account Manager

an internal email

djsmiley2k

Legs of different lengths?!

Burgi

13:41

i had to google what "thigh-gap" was

Journeyman Geek

" legs of different lengths"

Thats discrimination against haggis

djsmiley2k

o_O?

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k do you not know of the wild haggis? The scrouge of the deserts of scotland?

Burgi

nods

their mating call sounds like a bagpipe

Journeyman Geek

I mean, how is a haggis supposed to be makin a livin if ye go discrimininatin against them laddie.

@Burgi I don't know of anyone who has heard that sound, and lived to tell the tale.

Burgi

13:47

'twas a dark an' stormy night!

the hoots of a haggis rang out across the glen sending fear deep inae the hearts o' men

ye cannae know tha terror of...

THE NIGHT OF THE ENRAGED HAGGIS!!!!

in cinemas July 2017

Journeyman Geek

;p

Burgi

we should get @Annaduh to do the sacred haggis prevention dance

my revelations appear to have frightened the room into stunned silence

DavidPostill

@Burgi I wonder if @Annaduh will be able to follow the instructions :)

Burgi

its taught in school in scotland

DavidPostill

The Haggis Tree

►

Address tae the haggis

►

The Haggis Hunting Song

►

Bob

14:04

I opened chat to find... haggis.

Burgi

THE INVASION HAS BEGUN!

DavidPostill

Points finger -> @JourneymanGeek He started it!

Journeyman Geek

This is entirely plausible yes.

Burgi

it might be too late for @Annaduh to do the dance

as the most northern person here i might have to attempt it

Bob

*backs away*

Burgi

14:09

can we get the room message changed to include haggis?

Alan Watch

thinking to buy a microphone which decrypts any cipher-text by listening to the sound of processor.

DavidPostill

@Burgi me hides and refuses to dance (I'm Northerer than you)

Alan Watch

how much it costs?

Journeyman Geek

room topic changed to Root Access: For all you Super Users out there. Current topics: Technology, Taylor Swift, Haggis and Cucumbers. You have backups, right? [computers]

DavidPostill

room topic changed to Root Access: For all you Super Users out there. Current topics: Technology, Taylor Swift, Cucumbers and Haggis. You have backups, right? [computers]

@Burgi Done :)

Burgi

14:11

lol

Journeyman Geek

@AlanWatch er. A lot of money.

arda

@DavidPostill I don't have backup. What should I do?

Journeyman Geek

and chances are the mossad would be after you.

DavidPostill

@AlanWatch More than you can afford! ;)

Ben N

You could probably buy sufficiently sensitive instrumentation for a not-too-insane amount, but the decryption would be up to you

Burgi

14:13

@arda buy more haggis

DavidPostill

@arda Make one RIGHT NOW! :)

arda

@DavidPostill just messin with ya

Journeyman Geek

@AlanWatch cs.tau.ac.il/~tromer/acoustic

here's the paper

DavidPostill

@arda I'm shocked! You lied! :)

arda

people having backups is indeed (unfortunately) shocking

Journeyman Geek

14:17

lol

I'm looking at my backup folder

and I don't remember what one of these machines is

arda

Ugh after a month of (partial - /home/ only) backups, the backups folder in external drive is already taking 100gb :/

Alan Watch

100GB is still tolerable

Burgi

OMFG!!!! ROFL!!!! my minion just put on a northern accent and tried to say "our kid"

arda

Worst thing is that I can't limit this backup thingy to only keep like 3 backups. It'll keep at least 6 months of backups, at least until the drive fills up - then it'll remove somestuff

Alan Watch

my old laptop was damaged..I took the hard disk out for external storage..now I'm wondering what to do with its CPU and network adapter.

arda

14:25

Which part was damaged?

DavidPostill

wtf? You can buy a notepad++ thong!

2

arda

Doing something with CPU might not be easy, but you can probably use the network adapter elsrwhere.

Alan Watch

actually only graphic card has stopped working which could have been repaired but then the laptop was old so I bought the new one

it happened 2 months ago

arda

I'll probably need to buy a new pc too soon :/

Ram is dying, network card is dying, ssd is dying (not really, it's at like %25 of max write, but hell, that's a lot).

Journeyman Geek

@arda not much you can do with a laptop CPU

wifi cards ... you can get a adaptor, but usually not worth it

Alan Watch

14:29

in laptops even dedicated graphic cards are soldered unlike in desktop where you can plug it out very easily so I was left with 2 options..either to make it work without GPU or replace it with extra cost

isn't your ssd dying too early?

arda

I had it for about 1.5 years and I do abuse storage devices.

Alan Watch

you should still prefer hard disk..it's not a right generation for a ssd

arda

Not really.

Journeyman Geek

@AlanWatch modern SSDs last quite a bit

@arda 1.5 years isn't that long

Alan Watch

compare ssd with hdd..except speed, hdd wins in all other categories

arda

14:32

Not really.

Journeyman Geek

..... lolwhut?

HDD's are only better in terms of cost/gb

Alan Watch

long life?

arda

My laptop has 8gb of ddr3l ram, some haswell i5, and well, it used to take a lot to boot, open programs... anything, really. I got a cheap samsung ssd and it's really much, much faster.

Journeyman Geek

@arda my last laptop was a sandy bridge

arda

@AlanWatch HDDs last around 10 years. SSDs do too.

Journeyman Geek

14:33

still works fine other than the battery

arda

Oh yup, my keyboard and battery are also dead.

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek lul

Alan Watch

my hdd is 6yrs old..spent 5yrs in old laptop and now using it as external

Journeyman Geek

7

A: How damaged is my SSD disc

The idea that SSDs are fragile snowflakes that will melt under the white heat of data is a bit of a mistake. Many tests have been done where drives have been torture tested - tech report did one with last generation drives, here's an ongoing one and basically its PRETTY hard to kill a modern SS...

I have an answer for this toooooo

Alan Watch

@arda what will you do with your internal wifi adapter?

Journeyman Geek

14:35

My old SSD is about 4 years, moved it from my desktop to my laptop tho

@arda what exactly do you do to your laptops? ._.

Alan Watch

I kept my old laptop so that I can use its screen as external monitor but for that I've to buy a connector which is not that much cheap

arda

@AlanWatch I took out the HDD from this one and I also use it as external. I ran speed test on that before switching to SSD, and well, even after 1.5 years of abuse on that (my laptop is 3 years old, used HDD on first 1.5 years, moved to SSD after that), it was around half the speed compared to the time I first got my pc. In my case, SSD is much, much more durable.

Also I accidentally washed a solid state storage device (I picked this naming as well, it was a USB drive. I had to open it up and clean the water, but it survived.) a few days ago, and well, it survived without rice treatment. Try that with a spinning drive!

Burgi

where can i ask questions about osticket?

webapps?

arda

@AlanWatch they aren't necessarily hard to find or expensive, so nothing much.

Journeyman Geek

@arda 30-40 dollars?

@arda Also, kinda annoying when you have to work out what sorta adaptor you need

Alan Watch

14:40

one can use screen, storage, ram again..but what about internal wifi adapter , speakers and cpu?

arda

@JourneymanGeek I used to be a hardcore gamer. I have over 3500 hours of play time on this pc. That, as you can guess, damaged the ram, keyboard and battery a lot.

Journeyman Geek

@AlanWatch speakers eh, usually not worth it

CPU is tricky

@arda eh, I guess

wifi adaptors are mini pcie or m.2 these days, used to be mini pci

the adaptors for desktops are cheap but there's few situations where that makes sense

and if you buy a new laptop, except in a few cases, its likely to have a better card

and some brands have a whitelist

Even ram, depends on age

djsmiley2k

IT COMES OFTEN AND THEN SOON THE COMPUTER HANGS

OFTEN!

Journeyman Geek

I've done major swaparoos with ddr3l boxen

My beebox came with 2gb. I bought 2x4, installed that, moved the 2gb to my old gigabyte nuc (the third one, I had 2 fail under warranty) and moved the 4gb from that into my old laptop for 8gb....

but would be tricky with a new machine if it used DDR4

arda

so, uh, any good pcs coming up?

Journeyman Geek

14:49

I'm kinda loving my blade stealth

Not a gaming box, and I bought it at the tail end of this model (the new one has more ram, longer battery life and a newer processor)

Rahul2001

14:59

Uh

djsmiley2k

lul talk talk

Rahul2001

can someone please link some good reading material?

djsmiley2k

y u so bad

@Rahul2001 any perticular subject?

Rahul2001

I need to get my mind of things

@djsmiley2k Not really

Anything will do

djsmiley2k

In the past I've read 1-200+ something of SCP

Rahul2001

15:00

Videos will do too

Ben N

I like the Slate Star Codex

djsmiley2k

I've also read all of megatoyoko upto a point

and penny arcade

Rahul2001

@BenN @djsmiley2k Thanks

Ben N

Oh, and XKCD What If? is pretty cool too

Rahul2001

@BenN I've read most of What-If?

Ben N

15:02

Ah. Eevee's blog is neat

djsmiley2k

I've read all of What If, and go tthe book :O

Oh, and read all of xkcd multiple times

I concidered trying to read all garfield, or dilbert but.... stopped

Ben N

If you're into US politics, Scott Adams's blog is interesting

Journeyman Geek

tweep.com @Rahul2001

especially the early comics. There's not enough bunlop in the newer ones

Rahul2001

Okay, thank you everyone!

Burgi

the hydrogen sonata by iain m banks was stunning

Journeyman Geek

15:10

> Unless you bought it used: Pressure cooker makers tend to give free books away with their pots, often a classic about a spanish guy called Manual. Good reading while watching a pressure cooker.

Bob

@Rahul2001 userpages.umbc.edu/~squire/intel_book.pdf

Bob

15:30

my chocolates are melting :(

That Brazilian Guy

$10,000 Ethernet Cable Claims Earth-Shattering Advancement In Audio Fidelity (If You’re Stupid Enough To Buy It)

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy needs more pebbles (cc @JourneymanGeek)

oh, AudioQuest... old news

Burgi

old news

ars technica did a teardown of them ages ago

Journeyman Geek

pebbles?

MAGIC ROCKS!

Bob

🗼 🗼

leaning emoji!

That Brazilian Guy

15:34

@Bob Still... 10.000 USD for an ethernet cable...

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy does it come with antivirus?

nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2012/03/14/…

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy fool + money

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob For that price it better come with a gaming computer, i7, dual GTX 1080 included.

@Bob Dafuq?

Bob

also:

> Hand-assembled connections for optimal transmission of video and audio signals

Irony there is a hand-assembled connection is almost certainly less reliable

Journeyman Geek

so.. a monkey with a crimping tool?

Bob

15:37

@DavidPostill what's wrong with thongs?

That Brazilian Guy

Regarding viruses in cables... The paranoid in me will never charge his phone at any of those "free phone charging" booths on the subway, airports etc.

@Bob ~~Risky click?~~ Did you know they're from Brazil?

DavidPostill

@Bob lol. wrong kind of thongs :)

Bob

@DavidPostill s/wrong/only/

@ThatBrazilianGuy ya

That Brazilian Guy

And before a heavy marketing campaing they were ultra cheap and associated with really poor people who couldn't afford anything better and would go everywhere nearly barefoot. Now there's triple-digit havaianas IIRC.

Journeyman Geek

lol

DavidPostill

15:39

@Bob What do you call the other kind? Strings?

Journeyman Geek

they call em hawaii slippers in india

and super common/poor people wear em

Bob

@DavidPostill ...tbh, I haven't a clue

it hasn't really come up in conversation

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek AKA jandals, flip-flops. and probably a bunch of other names

Journeyman Geek

boo

the pictures on this are borked

head-fi.org/t/293165/my-cat-tore-up-my-virtual-dynamics-power-3

Burgi

a chinese friend bought me straw sandals and said that in china poor people wear them and if i didn't study hard i'd have to wear them

That Brazilian Guy

15:43

@JourneymanGeek They're super comfy, tho. I'm wearing one right now:

Burgi

my point is that they were like flip-flops

That Brazilian Guy

DavidPostill

The wonders of Google came up with:

banga - a g-string, ("check out her g-banga" or "her g-banga's out again")
sex pants- UK thong
fart slicer - a g-string
g-string - US thong

Burgi

@ThatBrazilianGuy WOAH DUDE!!!! TRIM YOUR TOE HAIR!!!!

That Brazilian Guy

4 mins ago, by Journeyman Geek

and super common/poor people wear em

Well I'm not exactly rich...

Anna duh

15:44

Pseeeeeeeee3e3

Burgi

catlike typing detected

2

That Brazilian Guy

@Burgi meh

1 min ago, by That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek They're super comfy, tho. I'm wearing one right now:

In fact, it's probably the only thing I ever wear at home

Comfort > style

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy One? I though they came in pairs :)

Bob

@DavidPostill wait. there's a difference between the us and uk ones?

That Brazilian Guy

@Burgi Or maybe she's really excited about the PS3

Journeyman Geek

15:46

@DavidPostill poor people... ;p

Bob

also, banga is definitely slang and *mostly* used in a certain demographic

DavidPostill

@Bob Shrug. I've never seen a US one :)

Journeyman Geek

dogs don't usually wear shoes

That Brazilian Guy

@DavidPostill Yes, it's one pair, therefore it's one ;p

Burgi

@DavidPostill there are specialist interest websites where you can see them

DavidPostill

15:47

@JourneymanGeek Really?

Bob

DavidPostill

Funny videos of dogs "Dogs in Boots Compilation" Prt1

►

Journeyman Geek

@Bob those are booties, and are a tool of the man.

That Brazilian Guy

> Unlike some world-famous sword-wielding cats, dogs don't usually wear shoes

Bob

Journeyman Geek

15:48

That is not a happy face

Burgi

wow... did you know they used to make trucks out of concrete during WW2?

That Brazilian Guy

I moved some data off a couple dying external drives and now my 3TB HDD has got only 10 GB left.

Burgi

@Bob maybe it is only yorkshire terriers that wear shoes

DavidPostill

Bob

my 8 TB HDD is ~~missing~~ ~~gone forever~~ forcibly returned :(

That Brazilian Guy

15:50

I need to buy a new 4TB HDD but it costs like 60% of a monthly minimum wage =/

DavidPostill

That Brazilian Guy

WAIT WAHT NO WTF A 4TB DRIVE IS 106% of the monthly minimum wage

> Hard Disk WD BLACK SERIES WD2003FZEX 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5

R$ 940,00

Hm. Found a ~~cheaper~~ less expensive one:

> Hard Disk Seagate Barracuda ST4000DM000 4TB 5900 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5

R$ 488 ,00 ~ R$ 1.140 ,00

Anna duh

Ckvnvnnncnncncnnbbbbbnv

That Brazilian Guy

@Annaduh Da svedanya, tovarisch

Burgi

catlike typing detected

2

That Brazilian Guy

15:55

czechlike typing detected

Strč prst skrz krk

Strč prst skrz krk ( listen ) is a Czech and Slovak tongue-twister meaning "stick your finger through your throat". The sentence is well known for having a total absence of vowels, the nucleus of each syllable being a syllabic r, a common feature amongst many Slavic languages. It is often used as an example of such a phrase when learning Czech or Slovak as a foreign language. In fact, both Czech and Slovak have two syllabic liquid consonants, the other being syllabic l. (There is also the syllabic bilabial nasal m in sedm in Czech.) As a result, there are plenty of words without vowels. Examples...

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