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12:02
I'd kind of like it to be an "everything that can go wrong with chm files" reference to save people some searching, so let me know if there's something I can do to make it easier to find / read.
@jrh There is no point in making it easier to find while it doesn't (yet) have a answer ...
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well, easier to find for a potential user who can answer the question, I mean
also the questions/forum posts I linked might solve some of the issues users run into
it's not a high traffic issue but the posts I linked have votes / comments
it looks like .chm files have been broken at least 2 or 3 times in different ways; it's not a great setup when I get 3rd party software that uses them
i ♥ fast fords
i'd probably wrap it round a tree immediately
@jrh Up-votes do not affect the visibility.
Then it would be a slow ford
@jrh the answer might be not to use chm files...
12:15
i noticed @Bob is my win10 lock screen today
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@JourneymanGeek possibly but I'd have to manually convert about 100 chm files from third parties
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Q: How to convert chm to pdf

Edison ChuangI have two types of document: CHM and PDF, but I'd rather like it if they all were in PDF format. I am looking for some good way to change it. Has anyone good ideas? I'll appreciate it. Update: Thanks for eveyone who helped me. :)

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@DavidPostill Ideally I'd like something with search and index capabilities
I distinctly remember they arn't supported any more either
@Burgi I had that one too
PDFs have search
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12:21
@Burgi It's close but it's not quite the same hh's search from what I've seen
pdf readers usually don't have the concept of "topics"
I've considered writing my own chm reader based on SumatraPDF that can read the index out of the chm file somehow
are these PoS machines?
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no, it's an industrial PC (no internet access)
do we mean point of sale, or piece of s...
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they are pieces of #@$@ though
lol
i meant the former @JourneymanGeek
12:28
pretty sure you CAN do ToC in pdfs
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ToC, but not indexes, at least not that I've seen
hmmm
index page
wow
> “They got in their fancy ostentatious car and left”
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@djsmiley2k it would be a big index page imgur.com/a/zndrO
12:33
> In that case, American military aircraft were flying above his farm, disturbing his sleep and upsetting his chickens
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@DavidPostill thanks, that might be the direction I'll recommend
the thing is, though, I can't find anything that says .chm files are depreciated
.hlp is, but not .chm
I have 3 brand new software packages (that we bought) that are still being shipped with .chm format documentation -- they advertise Win7, 8, and 10 support, are they dropping the ball?
> mysqlf - Stefan's MySQL Musings
i hate this guy already
@Burgi people need to stop being such dicks with drones.
Knocking on the door, introducing themselves, letting the house owner see the drone, and asking them if its ok to use their space, and if anything needs to be videoed would be just so... much more civilised.
12:46
agreed
i haven't seen many in the wild here in the UK
a few here
apparently they're using one the survey the old railway line
i think i've seen two
one was a commercial one filming the carpark area where they plan to build a hotel
the second was on the beach while i was on holiday
the former has space
the latter, as long as it dosen't crash, meh, public space
tho here, pretty much the whole country has restrictions cause we're tiny and everything is near an airport...
mornin
13:07
lo
roomie must be tuckered out
he dosen't wanna go walkies
13:23
@ThatBrazilianGuy BA as in Buenos Aires....you live there right? According to your profile anyway ;)
14:08
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I wake up and Im learning that quack is rubber duck debugging. priceless
Actually its a bit of a (personal?) room joke
whenever someone comes in, start talking about a problem and solve it themselves, I go quack.
**The Pragmatic Programmer in which a programmer would carry around a rubber duck and debug their code by forcing themselves to explain it, line-by-line, to the duck.**

Oh my goodness.
Yeah, cause explaining your code to your dog, might make you get a look like this
!!baroo
14:23
@JourneymanGeek That's called rubber ducking hehe
@djsmiley2k see 2 lines up ;p
14:37
@Bob so I have a friend in the UK that experiences 200ms ping to a server in NJ, while I experience 70ms and Im, let's say in north america. Is there any way he can find a better route?
@JourneymanGeek oh my goodness you said lollygagging!
hehe
@PotatoCat <- pointerA now get that dog away because %pointerA% hates it.
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere As a matter of fact, I did
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Q: Set a rep treshold for editing closed questions?

Máté JuhászReviewing proposed edits I've found this one: I've rejected it as "no improvement whatsoever", but also the question seemed poor quality and I've opened that too. It's closed as too broad, so it shouldn't have been edited just to make it a bit more beautiful. Should users with low reputatio...

if a drone flies into your property without authentication, throw an authentication exception with the unique hash of the object's signature to your security defense robot, and it'll take care of shooting the plane down with its precise bbgun shooters.
poor alex got a downvote
Jess Pardue is amazing, he made me realize it's already october the 3rd.
wow was in nyc and didnt even go to SE HQ
where is SU HQ
15:26
what technology do wireless mices use. guess those can be eavesdropped as wlel
oh great so by confusing you I managed to make you EVEN MORE popular as I secured you another spot on the star wall!
2 hours ago, by NULL
@ThatBrazilianGuy BA as in Buenos Aires....you live there right? According to your profile anyway ;)
@NULL AAaaahhhh a stalker!!!!
uh oh someone hacked me
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I have internet yet the LEDs on my modem that signal that the connection is established are out
that means my internet is being routed through my routers wireless antennae because my router has been hacked and reloaded with custom firmware
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Oh, it's the old "It shouldn't be working, but it does and I have no idea how". Classic.
what a piece of crap modem/gateway. why on earth do I have internet connection when the internet and downstream and upstream LEDs are not lit
let's login and check shall we
Damn, that Jake Gould is on a row.
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Or maybe that means... the LED lights are broken?
I see a PHP appached vs PHP CLI answer and thionk "hey, I saw a semilar question. Lets see if they are dupes.
He already beat me to that.
!!wiki occams razor
Occam's razor (also written as Ockham's razor, and lex parsimoniae in Latin, which means law of parsimony) is a problem-solving principle attributed to William of Ockham (c. 1287–1347), who was an English Franciscan friar, scholastic philosopher and theologian. The principle can be interpreted as stating Among competing hypotheses, the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected. In science, Occam's razor is used as a heuristic technique (discovery tool) to guide scientists in the development of theoretical models, rather than as an arbiter between published models. In the scientific method...
let's power cycle the darn thing
15:34
NOT 100% safe for work: This is why you need to change the default password on Internet connected devices. Even if you place them in a shop.
I need to change the password on my thingie cause a packet spoofed saying it;s coming from LAN from WAN will end up beign authenticated and logged in?
LANs do not send packets. Computers do.
computers on the lan
...
@Hennes Funny how the mirror image of whoever took the picture is "anonimized" by an unintentional sort-of white banner over their eyes
coming from the local area network
that makes sense
15:36
But regardless, if not 100% secure reset to factory default. Update firmware if needed (preferably on a different network!). Reset again. Load config from a saved config file.
should I really spend 100 dollars on my own modem just for peace of mind?
looks like I'm getting on the star wall again
No, why throw money at it?
Look up which model it is. Google/Duckduck2go/whatever_searchengine it.
See if their are known security flaws.

If there are then either 1) Update the firmware to a newer one without bugs. 2) or openTWR/potatoe/... it.
If there are no known problems and it acts weird:
1) powercycle it.
2) If the problem persists factory reset it.

If all of that fails then spending money can always be considered.
but it's a rental so since chat.stckeexchange !encrypted they will see me asking here if it's illegal and talking about loading such firmware on
Meh!
and then I accidently brick it what happens
15:49
Technical being able to see and having someone watch you is not the same thing.
what if I need to reutn it cause they upgrade me xD
WHAT IF I
tbh you know what I dont agree with, they have a secret admin account on my modem they can remotely service
Do not worry about that if until you reach step 3.
As in, search first, reset first etc etc
ah right I see it
I see that step
Well that's ironic
My OVH test server gets faster speeds to everywhere in the world except OVH's own speedtest server
hi cat
square root of negative 1 huh? that involves imagination! +1 to you @Hennes :)
15:54
Hey @PotatoCat!
16:08
sassy,
is there a message sent counter for chats for users? I need to see how many more years it'll take to be top 10!
oh yes 1.7k messages all time in this room
oh already more than arda
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Messages sent by users with silly names are not counted.
ohhhhhhhhhh of course
@DavidPostill please inspect your super user reputation.
hmmmmm if your renting it, it IS theirs
is my name silly?
ive had it since like 1998
@djsmiley2k Kinda. But people here are used to it, and I've seen much worse names on SE.
16:24
@djsmiley2k Not as silly as the username I was joking about :)
my name is older than some users
> my name is older than all users
@djsmiley2k ^ ftfy, I don't think we've got any users who are 2000 years old...
you were born 2827 years ago?
@Mokubai some act like it ;_)
16:42
Everyday people do everyday things but we can't be one of them.
I know you hear me now we are a different kind we could be heroes, me and you~
isnt that right David? :]
17:08
I could fly higher than an eaaaglleee. You are the winnnnnnd beneath my wingssssss
Scratch that song.. i have this better song...
"And a herrrro comes alonggg... with the strength to carry onnn"
Hey @JourneymanGeek I just got blocked by someone because I told her she's beautiful and I want to kiss her. Looks like it never works out for me.
"what happened to your Galaxy S4?", me.. "It would make a great paddle for a airhockey game."
oh did you freeze it?
nah
friend was just asking me about it..
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere that's not how it works
that's not how anything works
17:21
This is one way to avoid windows 10 upgrade nagging: twitter.com/BSDmag/status/782991857483743236
hmm no. I could put my flashlight in the freezer and then I can use it as a baseball bat!
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere FREEZE THE LIGHT!
MAKE A LIGHTSABER
uhm no that's not how anything words @arda
We can actually do that. (Freezing light).
Or suspend it for a few ms in a supercold ion cluster.
17:28
FREEZING A PHOTON?! IS A PHOTON A PARTICLE IN THAT CASE
I wonder what would happen if I froze a flashlight and
OOO WHAT IF I FROZE A LAZER POINTER ONE THAT CAN SHOOT OUT KILOMETERS
I am officially taking over the star board.
I mean yeah I'm talking about a massive yacht I'm on.
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere green laser?
aka the one that's banned in us
RGBV no a violet lazer!
there, Im sure I wasnt indexed yet
:)
whats aviation lazer exposure
why would pilots be exposed to lazers
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere pilots being blinded by muppets with laser pointers
17:40
does the pilot cockpit glass magnify lasers?
Under certain conditions, laser light or other bright lights (spotlights, searchlights) directed at aircraft can be a hazard. The most likely scenario is when a bright visible laser light causes distraction or temporary flash blindness to a pilot, during a critical phase of flight such as landing or takeoff. It is far less likely, though still possible, that a visible or invisible beam could cause permanent harm to a pilot's eyes. Although laser weapons are under development by the military, these are so specialized, expensive and controlled that it is improbable for non-military lasers to cause...
20 000 feets in the air
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Not during landing and takeoff
ah
good thing Im not a muppet.
that's [insert word (consumer-grade?)] planes
show planes etc go at lower altitudes
17:41
well people have those opportunities at air shows..
especially in daylight when you can't see the beam with the naked eye :/
also 20k feets is 6km
oh 6km thats nothing
even cheap green lasers go around 10km
17:42
Mine does. And they're legal here.
Idiots point them at police helicopters as well. They fly much lower ...
i realise the HGST might be a more reliable drive, newegg.com/Product/…-2RC-00D4-000N5--Product But isnt that asking a bit much?
thats dumb. there are many helis that fly over my home
ask the canadians at .ca
oo I had a hitachi!
you know whats more reliable than that drive? a reliable RAID setup with redundant cheap hard disks!
have 2-3 running at one time, once one fails add a new one to your block
could be that pays for newegg to actually pack it correct for shipping, as 20 years of business later they still do not pack things correctally.
and the extra 3rd one only grabs occasional backups from #2 so it's more likely to survive due to less use. while #2 is a clone of #1
17:48
I rarely see helis around here but there are usually planes that are on landing/takeoff stage (I live around 40km away from esenboga airport and 20km away from military airbase).
they packed my products correctally
18:03
@ThatBrazilianGuy what if they asked: "which of the formulas on the blackboard using a cartesian plane system the origin at the center of the black board and each unit being equal to 1 inch and the formula being located at point...?"
I'm having difficulty logging into Area 51. I'm seeing the error:
> Unable to log in with your OpenID provider:
Where should I go for help?
@FaheemMitha disable https
area51 login doesn't work with https
@arda Oh, weird. Can I do it just for that page? I do have https everywhere enabled on Chromium.
@FaheemMitha yes
@arda Ok. Trying.
18:14
WTF OVH
18:27
o/
@PotatoCat :( what's up with OVH? they're working fine for me last I checked
mr potato head cat :-)
@allquicatic was on ddos before
oh yeah that
pfft
i got mah srvr
@allquicatic While everyone else has Xeon v4 servers and are introducing v5's right now, OVH only have Xeon v3's and are pushing "new" Xeon v2 boxes...
Do they still get ddos'd a lot? Urgh
That moment when your turtle is just a head sticking outta the substrate!
18:42
you did an experiment with your turtle inside of it?
I mean you performed a chemical experiment with your turtle being contained in the substrate?!
backups/amy/Pictures/Assorted/Assorted Cats/P1040560.JPG
Any photo folderr called Assorted cats is going to be awesome
. Successfully recorded amy, to be a contact of djsmiley2k in the world of the real.
on is opposite of off.
@PotatoCat Uhh... keep in mind that the Xeon E5s are Skylake mainstream, whereas the E3s that they have are Haswell EP.
Skylake-EP isn't even a thing yet.
and IIRC Broadwell-EP is extremely new, as in, this quarter
I'd rather have a Haswell-EP than a Skylake-mainstream, personally
more cache, more cores
the current E5s are limited to 4 cores and are strictly slower than the 6770K
I will steal your cache for I am a pirate in these lands!
OVH is actually pretty good about getting the latest EP generation into a product deployment
I suspect by maybe January 2017 they will have Broadwell-EP in place for their top end Enterprise lineup (SP-64, etc)
19:06
@allquicatic Well that's true, but Online, Hetzner, and Bacloud all have Skylake E3's and even OVH's E3's are still v3 only.
Online.net also has the 2nd gen Xeon-D's which OVH don't. Meh.
And the pricing on the E5's is... nonsensical... 4c #79, 6c #111, 16c $129... wtf?
4-core v2 w/32GB RAM: £69.99
4-core v3 w/32GB RAM: £76.99

6-core v2 w/64GB RAM: £120.99
6-core v3 w/64GB RAM: £104.99... WTF?
All I want is a Broadwell-E 6-core with 32+GB of RAM that doesn't cost triple that of a Skylake 4-core with 64GB of RAM
Closest thing OVH has? 64GB 6-core v2 at double the price of a 128GB 6-core v3 at Hetzner.
Heck, Online sells a proper Dell Poweredge with dual 6-core v3's and 128GB DDR4 at the price of OVH's 6-core v2 with 64GB DDR3.
Fark.
Seems like the only thing OVH makes sense price wise for right now is if you plan on using over 100 IP addresses per box.
@allquicatic Broadwell EP came out in Q1... we're in Q4 now
19:30
@PotatoCat I have dual 6-core v3's and 128GB DDR4 from OVH but I can't move to Online because they're on the wrong continent
and ping matters (gaming)
Yeah, OVH has better ping than Online for me too, but only by about 4ms.
well you're not in the US lol
(Also I don't have lots of other people using my server(s) anymore so can't justify paying more than I personally need)
the US to Germany hop is about 50 ms longer for most typical ISPs' peering agreements than the US to northeastern Canada hop
sometimes even up to 100 ms
@allquicatic Eh, difference between 16ms and 20-22ms is actually noticeable on RDP
Hetzner's at about 26ms+ which is even worse, but at half the cost of Online and 1/3rd of OVH :-/
19:32
lol
9 hours ago, by Bob
I really need faster-than-light communications. And higher-brandwidth cables. And less-crappy routers at the ISPs.
If OVH catch up by er... one or two or three generations anytime soon, hopefully the 6c v2/v3's will drop in price
20-40ms is really noticeable on a shooting game.
I want to switch to OVH but 3x the cost for a measly 4-8ms less? Urgh. I'm not that rich :-(
I hate that retail is relying on breakage of rebates (non-redemption) to try to drive sales and extract extra dollars from consumers.
However, with the incredible pressure of today's economy forcing the retail sector to operate on razor-thin margins, there's good reason to believe that if retailers went back to more consumer-friendly approaches to promotions like sending out checks instead of rebate cards, their profits would turn into losses.
Your thoughts?
Nov 3 '14 at 22:04, by allquixotic
we're really employing all the economic tricks we can spare just to keep corporations afloat, while consumer budgets exhibit less buying power than normal because of all the debt we have racked up
Americans don't realize just how thin profit margins are these days.
what about canadians
19:47
I'd like to stay on topic.
oh sorry I didnt know that canadians arent cucumbers hehe
okay bye :)
Retailers doing things like relying on rebate breakage to make more money just to stay in business shows just how broken our econony is.
@bwDraco you mean the tax collector doesnt realise how many loopholes, and tax management strategies are used that display a 3% profit margin while the CEO rolls around on his bed in wads of cash? Meaning as a company you cant display a large profit, or you will be paying everyone, taxes galore, spiffs for the cities your residing in or thinking of putting a store in, investors dividends etc.
If, for instance, a price difference of just $10 is enough to meaningfully affect sales of a PC, then it's clear that consumer spending power is so absurdly low to the point that the retail sector is just barely hanging on for dear life.
how did many of these tech companies display they were running at a loss, yet the employees all driving around in BMWs , the management driving around in Porches , and the CEO has enough money to feed 1/2 of africa, for EVER.
19:54
That's why I try to do my part and give back.
the offices have $3000 chairs , do You?
No, and while I care about the quality of my goods, I care just as much as the well-being of the community.
As hard as it may be to resist the allure of money, I do my part and give back.
I wouldn't blame it on corporate greed. Even $50m is just a small portion of a major retailer chain's cash flow.
oh yea like they care about the well-being of you right? they dont care if they put you in the poor house, surrounded by broken cheap crap from china, and legalese documents that absolve them of everything.

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