Root Access

bwDraco

14:04

It's clickbait. Remember that they have a business to run; they need to be able to put food on the table. "'WT1190F' Safely Reenters Earth's Atmosphere" isn't going to attract many readers; "Mysterious Space Debris Hit Earth" will.

As much as I hate this practice, it's really the only way to survive in today's economy.

Media has had a very hard time making money with the decline of print and falling ad revenue (thanks to lower consumer spending).

That Brazilian Headless Horse

@PowershellforLinux WTF 9/11? ALIENS CONFIRMED!

bwDraco

So...

Sep 16 at 11:45, by Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco Clearly the don't want my thieving, adblocking self reading their content. I try to give sites I love that ask nicely 10 minutes to convince me their ads arn't annoying, but most don't make the bar

So why set the bar high? Security?

I realize I've been criticized before for not blocking most ads but your thoughts?

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco simple annoyance

bwDraco

Remember that I personally believe that webmasters have a right to run reasonable ads on their websites.

Journeyman Geek

And you're welcome to it.

bwDraco

14:15

The bar is set pretty low for me; as long as they don't actively interfere with reading the content (think Bounce Exchange), they don't get blocked.

Journeyman Geek

Point is being tho, if there's going to be an ad-block arms race. At some time the best way to win is not to play

That said one simple feature would make me permanently add a site to my adblock lists. Let me turn off and on ads

Or have a simple way for me to add/remove your ads with one click

Dosen't even have to be persistant.

Rahul2001

Or... just don't have ads in the first place

Although I realize that isn't very viable

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 well, websites do need to make money

bwDraco

13 mins ago, by bwDraco

It's clickbait. Remember that they have a business to run; they need to be able to put food on the table. "'WT1190F' Safely Reenters Earth's Atmosphere" isn't going to attract many readers; "Mysterious Space Debris Hit Earth" will.

Journeyman Geek

Buuuuut some sites manage

Tested has MOST of its content open, and some (pretty interesting) subscriber only content

Rahul2001

14:18

@JourneymanGeek Do you prefer sponsored links?

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 I think the minimum is to reduce the amount of friction for me to unadblock you to give you a chance

and not annoy me

google's old text ads were fine.

gifs verge on annoying

Autoplaying video ads... I'd like to use some words that would make me want to suspend me.

bwDraco

So, is it to reduce distraction?

Journeyman Geek

DIAF clippy

@bwDraco pretty much

bwDraco

Is my decision costing me productivity?

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco yes

But I understand and respect your decision

bwDraco

14:22

Stepping out: "let it out" is not appropriate (attempt to induce disallowed conduct!)

Journeyman Geek

Here's the thing tho. This specific case was a website that had totally blocked users with adblock

@bwDraco I wouldn't. And indicating intent was good enough to make my point

So, here's my thing. What does the website lose from a user that's not making them any money not reading an article they didn't want them to read? ;p

bwDraco

I let them through, even if it winds up taking an extra five minutes per article due to the distraction.

Heck, even 15 minutes lost, I don't care about.

...and this is why I'm having trouble finding a job.

Journeyman Geek

(times... several hundred articles.... for me)

Granted I skim through a good chunk of them

ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/…

0_0

bwDraco

This needs a serious discussion. Why on Earth am I knowingly and willfully wasting time?

Journeyman Geek

Why not?

I don't even waste time about thinking about how much time I save skipping ads ;p

jokerdino

14:27

@bwDraco because you are not your future you

bwDraco

I've lost probably thousands of hours of usable time with this decision.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco and?

bwDraco

I honestly don't want to block ads but I let them distract me.

It's my fault.

So, your thoughts on how to formally address this?

Journeyman Geek

Just cause I choose to do so dosen't mean everyone else needs to

bwDraco

Now I've wound up leaving 30 minutes later than expected for an appointment. I doubt I'll make it on time.

I'm easily distracted and it's the wrong choice to make.

Alright, then. See ya in a bit.

This attitude that time doesn't matter and can be freely wasted on unproductive activity is not acceptable.

Journeyman Geek

14:34

But if you're spending time and energy worrying about it...

bwDraco

I'm hoping to prevent this in the future.

Got to go.

Journeyman Geek

this was on my way home ;p

Powershell for Linux

Urgh fucking great

Five days on a 200Mb+ fibre connection, Windows doesn't bother downloading the anniversary update

Journeyman Geek

lol

Powershell for Linux

The day I move onto a <4Mbps shitty ADSL... Now it decides to start downloading!

Meanwhile overloading the router and basically making the entire building's internet unusable

Seeing as the router is like, 20 years old or something :-/

Journeyman Geek

14:43

or a dlink

Powershell for Linux

Is it just my luck or is Microsoft really out to get me?

@JourneymanGeek Zyxel

Switch is a TP-Link, APs are D-Link

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

who knew that tcp packets can fly in out of order

Powershell for Linux

Funny enough my own AP which I er... hacked into the network to "Upgrade" their wifi is also a d-link and works perfectly fine

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere I did I did! Do I get a prize?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

@JourneymanGeek that is beautiful

Journeyman Geek

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Its an old, overgrown rail/freight yard

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

14:44

no you don't get a prize. you're Powershell for Linux everyone knows you know everything.

you hacked into the network to upgrade their wifi?! dang they musta thought the opposie

"Dang our network is so much better now, someone must've been hacking it this whole time and just stopped now!"

Rahul2001

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere That is not how hacking works

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

hmm so if my server is a repeater, re-organizing received packets to the right order before sending them off to the finaly destination would be futile

Journeyman Geek

you need at least two people on a keyboard and 7 proxies...

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

no not 7

an unknown number of proxies which is greater than 9 at all times

if you dont know what proxies you used then no one can know!

don't need a keyboard with voice recognition

I need 1 more reputation on SO to comment on all questions and I really wanna ask this guy if his dbexec is thread safe cause sounds like he has no clue about thread safety

all this time I thought atomic operations are faster and better for performance but in fact they just block?

bwDraco

sigh

Journeyman Geek

14:55

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere 7 proxies.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

so you think 7 is a lucky number because they use it in gambling huh

Journeyman Geek

nope.

kids these days....

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

can you teach me something today?

Journeyman Geek

google "7 proxies" ;p

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

is it because there are 7 days in a week and having 8 proxies would cause an overflow which if handled would result in day 1/7 and thus it would take only 1 day to solve instead of 7?

Journeyman Geek

14:57

then watch this google.com.sg/…

...

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

then watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ&usg=AFQjCNF8vhiBDHVyZq8OfXiflhdCvSc3YA&sig2=3xddzzGOz_et9cHX_PWdHA

Journeyman Geek

the number of proxies is 7. and of proxies a hacker is behind, the number is 7. Not 6, except on the way to 7, and not 8, cause that's far too many

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek hehehehehehehehhehehehehhehehe

The Most Accurate Hacking Scene Ever

►

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

she was met with the response: “I WENT THROUGH 7 PROXIES GOOD LUCK"

Ah see IT IS about LUCK which gambling tends to be

Rahul2001

CAT VIDEOS!!!

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

15:00

O SHET A RAT SYNCHED TO MAIN SERVER

Rahul2001

Also, it says C:/Users/Haley... Epic fail dude, Windows uses backslashes

And don't you need admin rights to do all that awesome stuff?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

omg their IP address is being tracked. and the firewalls are being cracked and there's a progress bar and the system calling out the progress isnt shutting down the progress because it was programmed so poorly that it was programmed to allow it to get hacked because this video is full of poop

oh right a cyber nuke. you know you coulda just unplugged the network card and then restored a backup image ya durrrrrr

unless they hacked your firmware you're screwed

Rahul2001

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere What firmware?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

HD firmware, bios firmware, who knows what else lets you flash the firmware

gaming mice firmware

I know a virus that survived formats probably infected the HD firmware

or perhaps proper term overwrited

Rahul2001

I have an exam tomorrow, I should study now...

arda

15:14

@Rahul2001 no and that makes it look cooler

Rahul2001

@arda Yeah

@arda rahul2001.com/weblog/2016/09/rickroll-wifi-for-windows

I referred to you as "an online friend"... hope that's okay :P

Bob

15:28

Powershell for Linux

15:43

!!TELL 32487328 DOUBLEFACEPALM

ChatBot John Cavil

Rahul2001

!!learn quadruplefacepalm <>https://i.sstatic.net/9Eu8v.jpg

ChatBot John Cavil

@Rahul2001 Command quadruplefacepalm learned

Rahul2001

!!quadruplefacepalm

ChatBot John Cavil

Rahul2001

15:53

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 set "prompt= C:/Users/Hayley$_$G$S"

Bob

!! trout Rahul2001

ChatBot John Cavil

slaps Rahul2001 around a bit with a large trout!

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill What does the $_$G$S$ do?

DavidPostill

$_ Carriage return and linefeed
$G > (greater-than sign)
$S (space)

ss64.com/nt/prompt.html

@Rahul2001

Rahul2001

16:00

ah, thanks

arda

16:12

@Rahul2001 its ok

Rahul2001

:)

Hennes

16:26

I wonder if this is true. If it is then it is a nice story:

Powershell for Linux

@Rahul2001 That is pretty lame

Rahul2001

@PowershellforLinux Eh, found it on the internet... what did you expect?

Hennes

Cat pictures?

Powershell for Linux

@Rahul2001 We found YOU on the internet... oh... wait

Rahul2001

@Hennes lol... linky?

Hennes

16:28

FFS guys. https://t.co/Z0stBWkxwJ

Tweeted by discreetsecure on September 16, 2016 at 9:46 PM

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek superuser.com/users/644145/king-user multiple spam answers

Potential Darwin Award Winner

-2

Q: What specs do I have to check, before replacing laptop battery dead cell?

Can I replace cells of an old working laptop battery to a new laptop battery which is dead? I have no knowledge about electronics, that's why I am worried. Specs which are mentioned on battery packs are: old battery- 6 cells, having an overall rating of 10.8V, 4400mAh, 47.5Wh. new battery- 4 cell...

battery

Hennes

I recommend licking the contacts to make sure that they are live.

Make sure to compare it with the wall socket.

To bad I do not dare post that. Just in case not everyone recognises humour.

Rahul2001

HEHE: gadgette.com/2016/09/22/…

We are BACK from summer break, and what an article to kick us off with. @jesslynnrose & friends take down The Sun http://www.gadgette.com/2016/09/22/dear-the-sun-we-need-to-talk-about-open-source/

Tweeted by Gadgette on September 22, 2016 at 12:37 PM

djsmiley2k

16:56

o/

Mokubai

@DavidPostill The things you see when you haven't got a decent length of two-by-four to hand...

Paul Vargas

Hello to all!

Rahul2001

hi

Mokubai

Hi everybody!

Rahul2001

@Mokubai chat isn't letting me say hi

hi

Mokubai

16:58

1 min ago, by Rahul2001

hi

Rahul2001

Ah, okay it let me now

Mokubai

It let you the first time :/

Rahul2001

@Mokubai didn't let me say it the second time :/

Mokubai

Double-post message filter maybe?

Fnarf

Rahul2001

hi

Mokubai

16:59

Oh wow, double post message filter

Rahul2001

@Mokubai yep... just tried it again

hi

Mokubai

The second message gets nuked

Rahul2001

Exactly, didn't know about this

pretty amazing

Mokubai

TIL chat has a double post message filter.

Neato.

Rahul2001

urgh, puberty is weird and awkward...

2

djsmiley2k

17:02

:O

:OO

teegee]

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 Well yeah, how else are you going to learn what not to do and become an adult?

Rahul2001

0

Q: PLEASE HELP, desperate for answers!!! sudden/random clean shutdowns!! :/

I have bought myself a "new" Desktop PC, with Win7 Ultim8 x64 (ORIG.! xD) on it, almost plai without any upd8s but was used n dont rly know wut was the previous owner doing, so...Im assuming stuff. Since the community here is thankfully rly filled with professionals too, I AM BEGGING for help. ...

windows-7 bsod

@Mokubai I was talking about the sudden hair growth part :P

djsmiley2k

Win7 Ultim8 x64 (ORIG.! xD) << ?_?

Rahul2001

lol

Movies about hacking are always hilarious to watch

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 From experience the hair you get during puberty isn't the weirdest place you get them. I have some hairs coming out of my ears. :/

Rahul2001

17:06

@Mokubai O_O

@Mokubai Also, I was talking about body hair in general... xD

Mokubai

Body hair is awesome, for example without a decent amount of facial hair you can't do a convincing pirate cosplay...

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 Don't worry. Later you will have the reverse problem :)

2

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill xD

djsmiley2k

@Mokubai i semi-regularly get a spot forming in the middle of my knee cap, does that count?

DavidPostill

@Mokubai I have hairs growing from the tops of my ears - they grow faster than anywhere else ...

Mokubai

17:10

@djsmiley2k Is it an oddly thick/thin patch compared to surroundings? If so then probably does count.

Rahul2001

Welcome to Root Access @JoshdeKock... Current topics include puberty and body hair

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 And Taylor Swift and cucumbers... can't forget the cucumbers.

Rahul2001

@Mokubai Haven't discussed those for a while...

Mokubai

Well does the topic need to change then?

Outlaw Taylor Swift? Or the cucumbers?

DavidPostill

@Mokubai Both :)

Rahul2001

17:14

Incidentally, I got really annoyed today because all the cucumbers we've gotten recently have tasted bitter

Also, my English teacher striked of the word "gotten" from my essay, claiming that it is slang :/

djsmiley2k

@Mokubai nope, a single spot

Ell

Hi guys

Rahul2001

And I just bit my tongue

Ell

I have a quick question

Rahul2001

@Ell Go ahead

Ell

17:17

can I do:

Router --- (ethernet) ---> DSL filter --- (phone cable) --> DSL filter upstairs --- (ethernet) ---> Computer

alternatively: "Are DSL filters directional?"

Rahul2001

I've never used a DSL filter...

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 I don't know where she could have gotten that impression.

Ell

Oh

What do you connect to your router? fiber?

Mokubai

("gotten" isn't a real word imo tho)

Ah, North 'Merkin for "got" according to Google

djsmiley2k

ethernet generally wont plug into a dsl filter

Rahul2001

17:19

@Mokubai merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gotten

Hennes

I never saw a DSL filter with an Ethernet plug. All I saw had phone plugs.

Ell

oh dang I'm a fool.

djsmiley2k

rj-45 that is

Ell

I just realised

What a stupid mistake >.<

djsmiley2k

and phone cable is horribad quality generally

@Ell good try tho

Ell

17:20

Ah I just realised

I could use powerline ethernet

djsmiley2k

muvch better

Hennes

Aye. But before you buy that, realise that 500Mbit powerline will yield less than 500Mbit. In a way is is rather similar to wireless.

Ell

I pay for 50Mbps anyway

so hopefully that will do better than wifi, on which I'm currently getting 2Mbps

djsmiley2k

@Hennes show me a gigabit ethernet that does 1gig

Hennes

2 Mbps should be beatable. L)

Mokubai

17:23

@Rahul2001 As I said, North 'Merkin-isms. You haven't "gotten" things, you "got" them.

Hennes

Uhm, never tested Gbit card.
I got 1100+kbps/ from an ISA NE2000 to another ISA NE2000. Coax. Linux to BSD. Near max speed,
And about 80% speed from two 10Gbit NICs (no switch)

Rahul2001

@Mokubai "I had gotten a car" sounds better then "I had got a car"

Hennes

Never tested the 100Mbit ort 1000Mbit performqnces

djsmiley2k

i get ~70-85mbps on my ethernet over power in very old house electric (100Mbit)

Hennes

Hmm, wait. 11MB/sec over Gbit NIC to a darn slow NAS.

Ell

17:24

@Mokubai you can have "gotten" them

IMO

it implies that the process of getting has occurred

Hennes

I think I have for-gotten that.

Ell

rather than having had them

gotten ~= acquired

allquicatic

hi

@Ell False

oh, sorry, I was in Ruby interpreter mode

Ell

ahaha

djsmiley2k

@Ell 7!

Sorry, PHP mode

Ell

17:27

I think actually in ruby it would be a syntax error

for testing regices it's =~

allquicatic

oh right the characters are backwards

Hennes

@djsmiley2k Not PHP mode. PHP would just have accepted things and crashed later.

djsmiley2k

haha

@Hennes Error: 7 is not a number

Hennes

If "a" +1 is "b",
then "1+"a" = 66 ?

allquicatic

@Hennes PHP would have spoken to you in Hebrew

PAAMAYIM NEKUDOTAYIM!

Rahul2001

17:38

@allquicatic lol

Mokubai

@Ell You "got" a playstation, you don't "gotten" one. Urgh. it's an ugly unnecessary word.

Rahul2001

@Mokubai How would you phrase that sentence in past tense?

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 I got a playstation (from someone)

Rahul2001

@Mokubai So, "When I had finally got a playstation..."?

Mokubai

"Look at this X I've gotten" is the only way I can see that word being used and it sounds lazy and bad phrasing

@Rahul2001 exactly

djsmiley2k

17:47

@Rahul2001 yup

Rahul2001

uh, okay

I asked on ELU too: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/32489851#32489851

Mokubai

It might be an American word, but English it isn't.

Hennes

Anyone here with a link to a known safe windows 8 with bing (OEM) iso ?

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 grammarist.com/usage/got-gotten

djsmiley2k

wow google.co.uk/…

DavidPostill

17:50

@Rahul2001 It's not Queens English :)

Have got and have gotten

Rahul2001

I really need to study now... bye

djsmiley2k

o/

DavidPostill

Only yanks use gotten

Rahul2001

Ah, I won't use it any more

Mokubai

@Rahul2001 where are you from out of curiousity?

Rahul2001

17:51

@Mokubai India

Mokubai

Ah, you've probably been exposed to both via films and media...

Rahul2001

yep

bye

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

NO RAHUL YOU ARE NOT 15 !!

I thought you're in uni

arda

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere his name literally says 2001 lol

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

so what my name says blank doesn't mean I was born in blank

@rahul2001 but is your wlan card capable of being an AP then?

cool that guy has windows 7 ultimeight. I always wanted one of those. I have a crappy ultimate

I love USer Chilly Vanilli

@djsmiley2k ha nice comment!

Hennes!!!!!!!!! hehe

what would happen if I posted a troll answer, can I get banned from super user?

arda

18:12

Yes

You likely would get a warning on the first time and get the answer deleted, but it is just too much of a pita to do that. I posted a semi-troll answer before and it severely impacted me when I ran for mod.

DavidPostill

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere As a minimum punishment you would probably get lots of downvotes ...

@arda Really?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

okay Ill do it

arda

@DavidPostill yeah people brought that up

DavidPostill

@arda I don't think @CausingUnderflowsEverywhere will ever run for mod ...

Mokubai

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Trolling can lead to downvotes and deleted answers which in turn can lead to you hitting the quality ban system.

arda

18:15

@DavidPostill you never know :) Just pointing that out if he wants to

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

what if it's a troll sarcastic post with valuable information and an effrot made to help and answer the question

arda

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere that should be ok

see zalgo answer on SO

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

what if I am making fun of a large company will they come after me

arda

If you are in doubt, then just don't

DavidPostill

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Unlikely I would have thought. But I'm neither a large company or a lawyer ...

djsmiley2k

18:20

are you a gamer on steam leaving bad reviews?

;)]

arda

see: the company who sued 100 gamers for 18m

digital homicide

djsmiley2k

u mean suicide right?

Mokubai

@djsmiley2k Probably both, the company committed suicide but the people who took money for good reviews got crucified...

allquicatic

Fair Use Parody 68 The Worst of All Worlds (part 1 of 2)

►

djsmiley2k

hmmmmm i though 'synergy' kvm software was free

Mokubai

18:31

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

18:44

what do you think is it an acceptable joke?

http://superuser.com/a/1127287/596755

oops I typod apologize

awww dang I got downvoted

Hennes

I guess that is because it lacked an image of clippy

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

clippy :(

dang you guys are all young people into programming :(

arda

@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere "You did not contact Microsoft Support and I am not a Microsoft Support engineer. " too late; reported as scam

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

:(

noooo

arda

not actually, but keep this link in mind if they ever call you: microsoft.com/en-us/reportascam

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

18:57

yay someone upvoted LOL

Hennes

Why. cuz it is mikeysoft sports!

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I remember I had people call like that twice

I led them on pretending I was actually doing what they were telling me to

until they hung up

OH MY GOODNESS THEY ALREADY KNOW ABOUT ME!!!

Hennes

M/D/Y? Grah!

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

did you notice the funny?

Hennes

Nope. I am immune to fun.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

19:06

but you

were angered by his l33tsp3@k ?

sorry !337sp3@k

hah I wrote disclamer instead of disclaimer

Hennes

Angered? No.
annoyed: F- yes!

Psycogeek

what you say fudging retard cant hit the right letters on the keyboard and that makes him e-leet , me thinks that makes him creativly obnoxious?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

you should be like fuqin yes

methinks

Psycogeek

19:26

ahh these games, everything is a maze. Then I went to the developers office, and asked where the bathroom was? It is easy, Right right right left down 2 doors, then a right left left right.

Hennes

And when you got there there was a label on the door. "Yes, the badroom was here. We since moved it to location right right up down up up down down left left" ?

Psycogeek

yeaa but that was only found in the chest.

Hennes

Installing windows 8 for the first time....
(so far used windows 7 and windows 10).

And damn that installation is SLOW compared to win7

That Brazilian Headless Horse

6 hours ago, by Journeyman Geek

I spent a good chunk of the day moving computer equipment off a table, letting them replace the table with what looked like an identical table... then moving it back

JMG's boss: "We need to improve our IT. Oh, I know! Let's hire the top 6 SU user of all time, and use all his knowledge to move tables".
JMG's boss' boss: "Amazing idea! You get a raise!"

Hennes

Well, aty least who know how do drop tables :)

DavidPostill

19:35

LOL

"When my card was declined, I rang the bank and had to go through more security questions than usual. I was then told my account had been closed because I'd recently died.

The bank had written to me at an old address and the occupant had written 'Dead: Return to sender' on the envelope. Based on this unreliable information, the bank killed my account."

2

UK banking complaint.

Hennes

I should have known that. I spent years (literally) getting rid of old bank statement from previous occupants.

But I tried it the sane way "NAME no longer lives here. Address invaluid". "address not valid" "Grah, NOT VALID NOT VALID, stop sending"
As well as phoning etc

DavidPostill

In NL we used to get post for the previous occupant (who actually was deceased). Writing "overlijden" and returning to sender made no difference at all. After some while they went in the shredder ...

Psycogeek

I have a stamp that says "return postage guarenteed" I used that on the spam that i was returning, slowed the spam down a lot.

i believe it causes the item to be held at the post office till someone comes down to get it (pays), which ends up spamming thier box with USPS requests.

Hennes

I've never managed to get them stop sending their mail.
I could change the address though (which I changed the their own main office).
That finally stopped me from receiving it

DavidPostill

19:51

@Hennes lol

Hennes

I would have preferred to change it to a correct address, bit after almost 1.5 years I was out of patience

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