Root Access

Rahul2001

08:18

Hello!

arda

Hi

Journeyman Geek

woof

Rahul2001

Yay, robotics!

Journeyman Geek

yay. Almost through the first season of b5

Rahul2001

SCAM: softready.keyupgradecheck4video.site/….

Warning: extremely annoying notification sound

arda

08:29

@Rahul2001 THANKS

time for fun

Rahul2001

lol

It changed, though

It told me to download flash

arda

good

more stuff to download

arda

08:45

my vm hanged

but hdd sign is going crazy

cryptolocker?

haha install started and windows defender went crazy

0ws.pw/4lmj.png .

I feel like Joel at this point: youtube.com/watch?v=Gh0bczrw4NU (contains profanity)

Bob

10:11

...house on fire, detour, I miiiight have led 10+ other cars along wrong roads and dead ends for a bit

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Not yours I hope. That would be a rather extreme way of dealing with a misaligned door grame

Bob

@JourneymanGeek oh, no. not mine :P

Boris_yo

13:09

VPN Land, Infinity VPN, Windscribe VPN etc. is their life subscription pricing real? deals.inetinteractive.com/search?cat=390&query=VPN

Pay once and use entire life? How can they exist this way? Do they pay their staff out of their own pocket?

arda

13:38

@Boris_yo What's a "staff" on VPN provider?

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo it's for the lifetime of the company, clearly.

arda

What's faster/better? Samba share or ftps? Will use to store and download files

Journeyman Geek

Hmm. Samba I think.

Local?

arda

@JourneymanGeek remote

Will add password in case of samba tho

superuser.com/questions/183548/… hmm, streaming files might help. Will probably go with samba.

Journeyman Geek

I'd prefer sftp

arda

13:51

got samba working

Guitar Shoe Dave

14:42

totally did that 15 years ago :)

but def is cool when you get it working the very first time

Journeyman Geek

>_>

Catty McCatFace

15:05

Lol. Samba takes like three commands to get working...

Luke Moll

Hi, where could I get some help with systemd?

Catty McCatFace

The internet!

Guitar Shoe Dave

gross systemd

:)

Journeyman Geek

@LukeMoll "some help" is not really specific

Luke Moll

I've tried, my google-fu is tiring, looking for a human/chat room

Journeyman Geek

15:06

@LukeMoll eh, we encourage people to ask questions on the site

rather than relying on chat

I've not really dived into systemd myself yet

Guitar Shoe Dave

its garbage

:/ no offense

Journeyman Geek

@GuitarShoeDave all the mainstream distros are using it tho

Luke Moll

@JourneymanGeek I've asked one :) having only discovered SE chat recently wondered if someone online could walk me through a problem

Guitar Shoe Dave

well i once spent 30 hours of my life building an os from scratch with toolchains and all

usb bootable os

and i thought it would be a great idea to use systemd with it

HOLY CRAP was it bad

Journeyman Geek

@LukeMoll pretty much every chatroom has its own way of doing things.

Luke Moll

15:09

@JourneymanGeek fair enough

Guitar Shoe Dave

it ran like 300x slower due to journald

Luke Moll

@GuitarShoeDave 300x slower than systemv?

Journeyman Geek

(You'd get a much less polite response in some other rooms) ;p

@GuitarShoeDave seems a bit hyperbolic

Guitar Shoe Dave

yes 300x slower than systemv initd

Journeyman Geek

I've not really had major performance issueswith systemd 0_0

Guitar Shoe Dave

15:10

@JourneymanGeek try making flash drive bootable os

Journeyman Geek

yeah, true

I run my linux install on a pretty shitty, no name ssd

bwDraco

Hoping to spend a bit more time with my Wacom tablet. Due to limited desk space, I've had to disconnect my mech keyboard.

Journeyman Geek

ah

I was a bit confused before the correction

bwDraco

Not sure if I even have enough USB ports left (and hubs add latency).

Luke Moll

what mech have you got?

bwDraco

15:13

ROCCAT Ryos MK FX

Journeyman Geek

@LukeMoll you're going to notice a lot of us are hardware snobs ;p

bwDraco

It's my first and only mechanical keyboard. Went out of my way to preorder it from Newegg.

Journeyman Geek

(ranted, I tend to prefer razer hardware myself. I've had a old model black widow ultimate for years ;) )

Luke Moll

haha should I mention I run Ubuntu 16.04 on an old Mac mini?

Journeyman Geek

!!therethere

ChatBot John Cavil

15:15

Journeyman Geek

@LukeMoll I run fedora 24 on a beebox ;p

Luke Moll

@bwDraco the css for that page just loaded, ooh that's pretty

bwDraco

(moved my Firefox window to my HP U160 DisplayLink USB monitor. The color's atrocious compared to my laptop's color-calibrated, wide-gamut display).

Journeyman Geek

(and a full desktop, and 2 UHD monitors...)

Luke Moll

I've got a corsair k65 (non-RGB) myself, Cherry, TKL and looks alright was all i cared about

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

15:16

@ChatBotJohnCavil That cat's having none of it

Journeyman Geek

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ I distintly recall the cat was bothering the dog first ;p

Luke Moll

@JourneymanGeek are you running the desktop on the beebox? the mac's a headless server bc my Pi went funny

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@JourneymanGeek lol

Journeyman Geek

@LukeMoll I use it for long running tasks, including my torrent client.

My main desktop is windows 10, full ATX ;)

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ imgur.com/gallery/c2YDP

Luke Moll

@JourneymanGeek I think mine is a micro-ATX mobo in a mid tower case, looks a bit ridiculous

Journeyman Geek

15:20

@LukeMoll I actually considered that

I like having spare space to work

Luke Moll

I tried filtering for only ATX boards but there were none in my price bracket with the featureset i wanted (didn't need >1 PCI, USB 3, intel gen3)

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@JourneymanGeek hehe

Journeyman Geek

ahh, I didn't care about too many PCI slots

My current desktop is ivy bridge

Guitar Shoe Dave

finally a good article

coreos.com/blog/eliminating-journald-delays-part-1.html

@LukeMoll ^

would have been nice to read all of that in nov last year

Luke Moll

@GuitarShoeDave yeah i bet :D

Boris_yo

15:43

@JourneymanGeek In this case I am not confident in company's long-term stability.

This just reminds of one town in Elder Scrolls: Oblivion

Forgot the name of town...

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

medieval architecture is cool

Boris_yo

16:01

Yes it is.

Burgi

there has been a dog barking non-stop for an hour

its starting to sound hoarse

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

What do you guys recommend as far as backup methods

Burgi

for what device?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Hard drives for work

Burgi

desktops or servers?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

16:09

desktops

Burgi

why are you backing up individual desktops?

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Why wouldn't you?

bwDraco

tomshardware.com/reviews/…

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Or are you saying they should all be backed up to a server?

bwDraco

USB car chargers test. Everyone seems to overlook them...

Burgi

16:11

personally i would set up folder redirection and then everything a user thinks they save to "my documents" is actually mirrored to the server

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

ok

bwDraco

I have a decent one (Lenmar) which I carry with me. Seems to tolerate wider voltage ranges better than a cheaper unit I have.

If I drive 20V input (power tool battery) into the cheap generic car charger, it overheats very quickly under load and the USB output voltage falls out of spec, dropping below 4V in the extreme case. The Lenmar has no such problem.

Burgi

you then either back up the server to tape or USB HDD on whatever schedule you like

Catty McCatFace

It feels both scary and weird when there's no blood in your head.

Burgi

o.O

Rahul2001

16:15

hi

DavidPostill

hi

bwDraco

So, your thoughts on USB car chargers?

DavidPostill

@CattyMcCatFace If there was no blood in your head you would be unconscious at best and dead at worst.

Burgi

@bwDraco i bought one years ago and its still working fine

it cost me about £5 from a local phone shop

Bob

Mine looks like this:

allquicatic

16:21

Welp, we dodged a bullet

Catty McCatFace

Mine looks like this:

Bob

@allquicatic Hm?

Catty McCatFace

allquicatic

Some minor rain and tropical storm-force wind gusts are buffeting the extreme southern and eastern reaches of my state right now, but they're forecasted to completely miss me... basically, Hurricane Hermine swiped near me, but it's now disintegrating into basically a thunderstorm, and it's not even going to hit me

furthermore, the storm is moving northeast, which is away from me

Catty McCatFace

So really you dodged a thunderstorm, not a bullet.

Tbh a bullet would probably have done less damage.

bwDraco

16:23

I carry this with me: anker.com/products/A1271011

Catty McCatFace

A rain of bullets however....

bwDraco

20.1 Ah, 74 Wh.

allquicatic

@CattyMcCatFace I mean, if the entire tropical storm came directly over us, it would probably throw our lawn chairs all over the place, tear off tree branches, etc.

DavidPostill

Hmm. I smell sock puppets.

muntean-cosmin-manim https://superuser.com/users/466755/muntean-cosmin-manim
Muntean Cosmin https://superuser.com/users/599304/muntean-cosmin
mircea linea https://superuser.com/users/605458/mircea-linea

All asking questions about using [word list updater](https://www.google.com/search?q=word+list+updater) - a tool used exclusively by the hacking community.

Both on [su] and [so], some cases crossposting.

bwDraco

The PowerCore 20100 is easily the fastest of the portable chargers I have.

allquicatic

16:25

@Bob did @JourneymanGeek tell you that we played Payday 2 last night with Electronbeam and a friend?

Bob

@allquicatic uhh... no? :P

I did mention to him that I probably wouldn't be there at around <time>

@allquicatic you guys have scary storms :(

@allquicatic did you get that update thing sorted?

allquicatic

@Bob no, but the person who was working through that hasn't been around

bwDraco

16:41

What's the risk of backing this?

indiegogo.com/projects/…

Bob

losing the money you backed it with

bwDraco

The question is "how high is the risk?"

At this point, it seems like the risk is quite low, but I'm not sure whether to proceed here.

arda

@Bob or it lethally exploding

Bob

or that

bwDraco

This may be the first crowdfunded project I'm backing. Do I proceed?

arda

16:45

halt

ChatBot John Cavil

HAMMERZEIT!

arda

Are there other people reviewing it?

aka did they ship samples or first batch?

allquicatic

Tech Scammer sets Syskey and BIOS Password on his OWN COMPUTER and CRIES!

►

bwDraco

Looks like some prototypes have shipped.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Is that the max RAM clock?

Or can it be overclocked?

Bob

16:46

@allquicatic wat

allquicatic

So I legitimately feel bad for this guy - he's clearly completely clueless and is being exploited by slightly more clueful / devious scammers who shovel these people in there

bwDraco

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ That's the max supported clock.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

hmmm

allquicatic

@Bob by the end of the video it's revealed that this specific tech support scammer was running a domain controller on the box he was using to do the scamming, and the scammee / "victim" got him to set syskey and bios passwords on that domain controller

...thus preventing anyone else from logging into their scamming boxes :D

arda

@allquicatic own computer? Supervisor's computer

5:10

Bob

16:52

@allquicatic ... ... ... I mean... how?!

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

lol

Bob

How does someone supposedly new get access to the DC?

allquicatic

@Bob I think it started out by the "victim" asking the guy to walk through the steps for him and tell him exactly what the screens on Syskey say, then he made him set a password somehow with a clever Jedi mind trick :P

then the roles reversed and the guy willingly set a BIOS and hard drive password

arda

allquicatic

I guess he got access to the DC box because they didn't have any other place to put him?

these guys wouldn't have the OpSec discipline to hide away the server in another room (or the money, really), so they probably just use their infrastructure as desktops

Bob

16:54

@allquicatic Why do they even have a DC? :P

In fact... you can't even log in to a DC unless you're a domain admin.

Ben N

That's reconfigurable though

(and by default it also lets in members of several other groups, but that's a nitpick)

allquicatic

@Bob it's not hard to imagine this guy sitting down for the first day on the job, then his boss logging into the system for him and telling him to call these numbers and read this script

Bob

@BenN Eh, not normal users :P

allquicatic

if all the other boxes were full up, well...

Bob

It also wasn't particularly easy to reconfigure last time I tried.

Ben N

16:55

I would guess they have a domain so they can push out GP stuff

Bob

Like, you pretty much have to drag it kicking and screaming.

allquicatic

^

Bob

(yea, I know there's a group policy for allowed accounts)

bwDraco

> now no computers work

Bob

@allquicatic Ah, yea...

bwDraco

16:57

I'm of the opinion that this is cruelty. The scammer may be doing wrong, but now we have another person on the streets...

Ben N

It's debatable. The reverse-scammer stopped the scam operations for at least a little while, protecting gullible people probably

Bob

@bwDraco Substitute scammer for, say... cartel member.

allquicatic

@bwDraco two wrongs don't make a right; if the only job they can get is as a call center scammer illegally stealing peoples' money and information, and there's literally no other job available, then they're better off on the streets, honestly

Ben N

Obviously it would be better to let actual legally authorized authorities handle it

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

I have no pity for people who get owned when they are trying to steal something from someone else.

bwDraco

16:58

Sure, but I have serious concerns about the ethics behind this.

There's no due process here.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Maybe it will make them think twice about scamming in future.

Now that they see how it feels

bwDraco

Jun 19 at 3:56, by bwDraco

I got myself in big trouble today by intentionally giving a street performer far more money than is necessary (folks were giving $1-3 typical, I put in $20).

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

The web is still very much a wild-west as far as the law is concerned

bwDraco

I've had a history of being gullible.

allquicatic

how'd you get in trouble?

bwDraco

17:00

See context.

allquicatic

@bwDraco that's because many countries (India is hardly unique in this regard) willfully turn a blind eye to businesses whose whole operating principle is to defraud others; as long as it looks like a fairly ordinary office building from the outside, they don't care what goes on inside

that, and they don't have enough manpower and political will within government to actually find and shut these businesses down

bwDraco

@allquicatic I wouldn't say it's willful; it's more like the government is underfunded.

Ben N

I wonder if the US government is doing anything about international scammers

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Not really our jurisdiction . . .

Ben N

You're probably right. The scammers are defrauding US citizens though, so it might be a tricky question?

allquicatic

17:02

user education is just as important as stopping the scammers... over time, the scammers will get better at appearing legitimate, and users will get slightly more wary of blind calls and suspicious emails and pop-ups

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

yeah, that certainly makes it a bit of a grey area

@allquicatic indeed, some (most) of these people just shouldn't be falling for

allquicatic

it's a cat and mouse game that will ultimately end with Indians learning to speak perfect American English without a hint of an accent and using zero-day exploits to immediately root peoples' systems as soon as they visit their website, plus very sophisticated VM detection countermeasures that end the call if the "victim" is running a VM (because all these counter-scammers do)

well, any of them that don't end up getting that sophisticated will have less and less effectiveness over time as cultural awareness increases

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

yeah

bwDraco

Hopefully, poor societies like India will move away from this as their economic status improves.

India's GDP per capita has improved dramatically over the last decade, but it's still very low.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

Cybersecurity is a growing concern both in the military, but also in the private/business sector. I just wish people took the time to learn a few ways to avoid the most obvious/crude attacks

allquicatic

17:06

it's challenging to give a good life and a good job to as many people as we have in the US with as many resources as we have here; it must be unbelievably difficult to impossible to give a good life and a good job to many millions more people, in a much smaller area, with way less resources

bwDraco

yesterday, by bwDraco

Start here for a discussion on how India is a booming technology country: http://chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/118?m=32017575#32017575

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@bwDraco Indeed. Always wondered if improvement was a cause or an effect of diversification and all that

@allquicatic yeah

allquicatic

unfortunately, there will always be tens of millions of homeless extremely poor people in the US, and, like hundreds of millions of extremely poor people in India -_- even if they end up gainfully employing ten times as many people as we do

bwDraco

I've always wanted to give back, even with whatever little cash I have.

These days, when it comes to allowance systems for children, I'm seeing lots of recommendations to earmark at least 10% for charity.

Even though I'm still under an allowance system (and will continue to be paid allowance until I make enough money to support myself—the photography job is not enough), I budget about $100 a year for charity.

I've been looking for more and better ways to support folks living on the streets. I now routinely drop quarters to folks who are just sitting there on a sidewalk.

arda

I personally like and donate to Child's Play. Basically, you help children in hospitals have fun by playing video games, helping them get through rough times.

bwDraco

17:13

It sucks for these people to get barely enough money to buy food.

No shelter, little leeway for even clothing.

arda

I mean, there are more important problems in the world, like hunger, homelessness etc, but imo even though this is not that important, it still deserves donations.

bwDraco

Homeless shelters here in New York are actually worse than just living on the streets.

I actually started six years ago by giving to St. Jude Children's Research Hospital. About half their money comes from individual donations, last time I checked.

Rahul2001

@CanadianLuke Sorry, I had to go offline yesterday... Maybe the next time you're free?

Why do we never have events in this room?

arda

"Sir...sir...sir? I am supposed to be helping you."

Bob

Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks

Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks to Sultan Mehmed IV of the Ottoman Empire, also known as Cossacks of Saporog Are Drafting a Manifesto (Russian: Запорожцы пишут письмо турецкому султану), is a painting by Russian artist Ilya Repin. The 2.03 m (6 foot 7 inch) by 3.58 m (11 foot 9 inch) canvas was started in 1880 and finished in 1891. Repin recorded the years of work along the lower edge of the canvas. Alexander III bought the painting for 35,000 rubles, at the time the greatest sum ever paid for a Russian painting. Since then, the canvas has been exhibited in the State Russian Museum in Sai...

arda

17:20

"That is not very many rupes"

bwDraco

I'm always willing to give some coin to those who need it.

arda

bwDraco

Everyone deserves a fair chance at life.

Rahul2001

@arda linky?

arda

Tech Scammer sets Syskey and BIOS Password on his OWN COMPUTER and CRIES!

►

Rahul2001

17:27

Well, Indians can be good and honest people, and most are

Bob

@arda heh, he walked right into that one...

arda

@bwDraco ok, I'll continue to be completely honest with you. Donate because you want to help, talk about it when asked. This sounds a bit like bragging (and I personally dgaf but some might think that it is annoying).

Rahul2001

Indians working at call centers get paid hardly anything, and they are very poor, so they don't always see taking from the rich as wrong...

bwDraco

My apologies to anyone offended here.

arda

Let me know if there is a tradition or something, but if you are poor, you don't get married. Or at least have children.

bwDraco

17:30

So what are my options to make my dollar go farther in helping homeless people?

Rahul2001

@arda No, you get married and have children, so more members of the family can work for income... At least, that's what happens here

arda

@bwDraco donate to homeless shelters.

bwDraco

@arda Yes, we call them "homeless shelters".

Bob

Windows replaced bad clusters in file \DCIM\Camera\20160628_215857.jpg
of name (null).
Windows replaced bad clusters in file \DCIM\Camera\20160716_082104.jpg
of name (null).
Windows replaced bad clusters in file \DCIM\Camera\20160716_082130.jpg
of name (null).

ow.

bwDraco

Looks like some photos are getting corrupted. Uh-oh.

Bob

17:34

Windows replaced bad clusters in file \DCIM\Camera\20160628_215857.jpg
of name (null).

ok, card is borked

bwDraco

Bad memory card?

What device is this in?

Android smartphone?

Canadian Luke

@Rahul2001 sure. I'll be in my work 830 to 1630 pst on Wednesday

allquicatic

Space X Rocket Explosion Details & Commentary

►

@Rahul2001 ....which makes the problem worse -_-

Rahul2001

@CanadianLuke Whoa, that's 10PM to 5AM for me :P I'll try though

@allquicatic I agree

allquicatic

Arithmetic, Population and Energy - FULL LENGTH

►

Bob

17:38

hm, I appear to have misplaced my receipt

Bob

17:52

kickstarter.com/projects/1556758830/…

lol

> $25,000 goal

> Kickstarter

> First Interstellar Space Vehicle

yeaaaaaa

that's not even counting the rather amusing technobabble

Canadian Luke

@Rahul2001 the price you pay for experience :-P I can do it in the evening, but that's really my time... I'll help how I can one night for you

allquicatic

that's so ridic that Thunderf00t probably won't even waste his time debunking it

Rahul2001

@CanadianLuke lol, I think I might be able to manage it... I'll ping you if I can

arda

@Rahul2001 considering, unfortunately, Turkey has a low percentage of women working, I can see why I didn't understand that initially.

Bob

@allquicatic ...Thunderf00t?

(source)

bwDraco

18:08

nydailynews.com/new-york/…

allquicatic

18:25

0

Q: What does decreasing exponential growth of resource consumption look like?

In Prof. Al Bartlett's famous lecture, Arithmetic, Population and Energy (this one was given in the year 2001), he explains the arithmetic of exponential growth of resource consumption and population growth. However, in several moments during the lecture, he admits that growth rates have fallen ...

exponential-function

TL;DR: plain steady exponential growth doesn't continue, in actual natural processes; it gets so far then drops off a cliff. So what does that "steady decrease in the growth factor" look like?

tereško

Harrison Bergeron by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.

►

bwDraco

20:41

!!/bearhello

ChatBot John Cavil

2

bwDraco

22:07

Gearing up for a storm. I'm short on USB wall chargers so I'm using a USB car charger connected to a power tool battery (these DeWalt batteries charge very quickly).

DavidPostill

@bwDraco Hermina? Hits NY tomorrow right? Stay safe.

bwDraco

!! s/Hermina/Hermine/

Yup.

ChatBot John Cavil

@bwDraco @bwDraco Hermine? Hits NY tomorrow right? Stay safe. (source)

bwDraco

Tonight, actually.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco What is the time there now?

bwDraco

22:17

6:17 pm UTC-4:00.

DavidPostill

@bwDraco I was looking at weather.com/storms/hurricane-central/hermine-2016/AL092016 trying to figure out where it is now ...

Ah. This is a better link nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/…

That Brazilian Headless Horse

23:19

I've never seen a thunderstorm, hurricane, tornado, snowstorm, or even snow for that matter.

Neither an earthquake, volcano eruption or ashes, flood, or tsunami

noitsbecky

@allquicatic Right, but no bullets

Transcript for