Root Access

bwDraco

00:01

The motherboard has eight DDR4 slots, typical of most full-size X99 boards. If he needs more memory, he can put up to 4x16 GB in the other four slots for a total of 96 GB. I doubt he'd need more than that (Broadwell-E supports up to 128 GB, but that's very unlikely to be necessary.)

It's a gaming machine, but it also needs to support workstation applications.

bwDraco

radeon.com/en-us/…

That RX 470 is about twice as powerful as my laptop's GPU at essentially the same power consumption.

(and it costs a small fraction of the price of what a mobile-binned and fully-enabled GK104 costed three years ago)

Journeyman Geek

oh, also, slap a heatsink on the SSD

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek I'm not sure how I/O-intensive his workload is. The SSD will start throttling at about 80-85 °C, but this might not be an issue.

A case fan directed at the SSD might just be enough to keep temperatures in check.

Bob

@PotatoCat :(

@allquicatic I get three carriers on Vodafone. Which adds up to like 70Mbps down max, 10-30 typical...

Journeyman Geek

00:18

hm Nietzscat: Dog is Dead ?

pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/…

some folks report ram heatsinks work well

bwDraco

A dual-GPU setup doesn't necessarily have to cover up the M.2 slot, which is just above the bottom PCIe slot. Graphics cards placed in the first two slots will still leave some room for airflow towards the SSD.

asus.com/us/Motherboards/X99-A-II

I wouldn't bother as it probably won't be a big issue. I'd just ensure adequate airflow to the SSD controller; that can cut a few degrees off the temperature which would probably be enough to avoid throttling under reasonably anticipated workloads.

A properly-positioned case fan will do it.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

01:19

Alright, thanks guys

Potato Cat

@Bob you know who I am?

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ bad.

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

?

Potato Cat

@JourneymanGeek err you realise he has 8 ram slots, right?

@NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ very bad

Journeyman Geek

01:35

@PotatoCat that completely slipped my mind

I still tend to go for the largest sticks I can find, since no one has the slightest inclination of releasing a mass market pci(e) ram/storage device I can stick old DDR3/4 ram into ;p

Potato Cat

@JourneymanGeek SSDs are so cheap now...

Journeyman Geek

@PotatoCat yeah ;p

but having spare ram around!

Potato Cat

@Bob if it's any consolation I did have to walk around the building with the transmitter on three times to find the best spot, whereas the worst spots would see the speed drop to 40Mbps or less, despite being "covered" by two 300Mbps cells.

Journeyman Geek

@PotatoCat I did go for 2x8 so until I retire this system or go 4x8.... ;p

and its ddr3 so it dosen't get any bigger

Potato Cat

And I have also spent months trying to find one that did over 150Mbps. I think the ones on Aberdeen are capped

@JourneymanGeek I know, I have so much of it and I can't even sell it at $15

I started with 4x8 in my Skylake system. Then sold it.

Journeyman Geek

01:48

I might go 4x8 if I switch this system down to being a home server

(but I'm not sure of the utility of 32gb on a gaming box. or 64 gb. or 128gb)

Potato Cat

32GB is perfectly utilitarian on a gaming box

That said I'm only doing it because my last machine had 24GB for over 5 years and I wasn't about to downgrade

Journeyman Geek

16gb seems to work. What sort of games would be ram capped?

Potato Cat

Even if DDR3 RAM still costs more now than in 2011

16GB just feels so small when you're used to 24GB to 256GB

Journeyman Geek

lol

I've rarely ram (or processor!) capped

Potato Cat

Also you have to deal with shitty software with memory leaks twice as often

Journeyman Geek

01:59

ehhhh, Firefox? ;p

Potato Cat

No, Aquasuite

Journeyman Geek

I was going to link barbie girl as a joke but I decided I don't hate you guys that much.

bwDraco

Testing my Wacom tablet on my phone: Touch behaves like a multitouch trackpad as expected, but pen maps poorly to the screen.

(Bamboo Capture CTH-470.)

Works both wired and wireless (using the Wireless Accessory Kit).

@PotatoCat yup. My laptop has 24GB.

allquicatic

02:15

hi

Potato Cat

arstechnica.co.uk/science/2016/09/…

Shudder

Journeyman Geek

boingboing.net/2016/09/02/print-is-not-dead.html lol

@PotatoCat Life finds a way?

Bob

@PotatoCat Definitely not a dog.

@PotatoCat lol... I'm on 2x4 + 2x8 right now. worksforme

@PotatoCat -_-

I need to go try that sometime

bwDraco

Same memory configuration on my laptop.

Bob

good to know AARNet speedtest can go up to 600/600 though

well, either them or Azure. still far higher than mobile will

Journeyman Geek

02:31

@Bob they're unloading large steel plates in the disused train yard downstairs. Sounded a little like our mystery banging...

Bob

(source)

@allquicatic ^

Journeyman Geek

I'm still pretty sure its interference.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek pretty weird-sounding interference!

Journeyman Geek

yup

bwDraco

Looks like Cards Against Humanity.

Journeyman Geek

02:36

That much is obvious

Potato Cat

@Bob That's gotta be the most PC and least offensive cards against humanity combo I've ever seen

allquicatic

Http://benzle.com

needed to do that so I could get to it from my computer, long story

Journeyman Geek

lol

allquicatic

... Virus total.com

damnit

virustotal.com

Journeyman Geek

I misuse my fb account for this a lot

allquicatic

02:42

I spilt water on my mechanical keyboard, letting it dry out atm, using Bluetooth keyboard with my iphone

going to connect my iPhone to my desktop over wifi to use this keyboard because I don't have a BT dongle handy

Journeyman Geek

ah

>_>

I have a spare keyboard ._.

Well its from the old box no one uses..

@allquicatic 0_0

allquicatic

well it kind of works...

Potato Cat

@allquicatic lol

OSK?

allquicatic

don't laugh at me :(

Journeyman Geek

Just seems inelegant

allquicatic

02:46

no, for gaming, an on screen keyboard won't work

and yeah it's VERY inelegant but it's pretty fast over 5 GHz

Potato Cat

But for typing a web address into a browser...

allquicatic

as fast as BT <-> iPhone <-> WiFi <-> AC791L Jetpack <-> USB can be

Windows Key doesn't work

Potato Cat

One benefit of Logitech wireless keyboards - you can use their tiny RF dongles if you don't have built-in Bluetooth

allquicatic

arrow keys don't work. fuck

Unifying? yeah, I know about that. and it's pretty reliable, unlike Bluetooth (in general)

Potato Cat

Also I have so many spare/wireless/media keyboards it's not even funny anymore

allquicatic

02:48

I should just dig deeper in my pile of shit until I find a damn BT dongle

Potato Cat

@allquicatic Yup. I used to use it a lot with my laptop because it was much better than using the built-in Bluetooth

allquicatic

or start soldering my keyboard like Jessa would

Potato Cat

But then I uninstalled the Bluetooth driver and Bluetooth has been working flawlessly since.

allquicatic

found two WiFi USB dongles

this is the point where I'm digging through ancient stuff in a drawer and I just want to say "where is this fucking fucking fucking fucking thing"

my NUC has a Mini PCIe wifi/BT adapter

doubt my Micro ATX mobo has a slot for that

bwDraco

I rarely have to use my laptop's Bluetooth.

allquicatic

02:56

gigabyte z170 d3h

bwDraco

It's part of the Intel Wireless-AC NIC that came with the system.

allquicatic

someone look it up for me, i'm helpless

Potato Cat

lol

bwDraco

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Potato Cat

There's an M2 slot, might work with a M2 wifi/bt adapter

I was tempted to try it with mine but couldn't find the adapter at the time :-/

bwDraco

02:57

I don't see an mPCIe slot.

allquicatic

ty

bwDraco

The board has a bunch of Conventional PCI slots, which is quite disorienting on a modern board.

Potato Cat

Now that you've reminded me, Skylake-E is going to be expensive :-(

bwDraco

Try to find something that fits the topmost PCIe x1 slot.

allquicatic

apparently I have an SSHD, three phones, a Cotton Candy USB system on a stick, a USB headset adapter, and 2 USB WiFi cards that I didn't know I had, or forgot about

but none of them are a Bluetooth dongle. FUCK

chromecast

iron cores

Potato Cat

03:00

None of them are a spill-proof keyboard either I assume? :-P

bwDraco

You may need a PCIe to M.2 adapter card. This will limit your GPU options as it'll prevent you from running SLI, though.

Oy vey. A COM header?

Journeyman Geek

sure

bwDraco

Why are there legacy interfaces on modern boards?!

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco calm down ;p

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek That was in jest.

Journeyman Geek

03:02

1. Its in the LPC chip

2. Com ports are still useful for some enterprise devices

Its basically "Its in the chip we buy hundreds of anyway, a header and some traces are a few cents, and if somone REALLY needs a serial port on a desktop they can plug it in.

bwDraco

But this is a Z170 board. This isn't the sort of board that would be used in an enterprise environment. You'd want to use B150 or Q170 instead.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco same LPC chips I suspect

allquicatic

PHEW - got Bluetooth keyboard working with my actual computer, without the iPhone interposer :D

Journeyman Geek

as for PCI... er. I donno. Sound cards at one point

bwDraco

I'm a little puzzled as to why this would be in a consumer board... 🤔

allquicatic

03:04

I found an absolutely tiny little USB-A 2.0 Bluetooth transceiver in the bottom of a drawer, buried under a few tiny Sandisk flash drives

Journeyman Geek

@allquicatic woohoo

allquicatic

VID 0461, PID 4D75, REV 0667

bwDraco

lol @ "interposer"

Potato Cat

@allquicatic Congrats! Lets celebrate with some potato.

allquicatic

works pretty well

Journeyman Geek

03:04

@allquicatic I was toying with adding one to my spares box if I got around to ordering some AC nanodongles.

allquicatic

and the keyboard is a fantastic ThinkPad Compact BT Keyboard with TrackPoint

perfectly suitable (barely) for gaming :)

Potato Cat

@allquicatic w00t I want one

bwDraco

...and I thought most PCs were free of legacy interfaces these days.

allquicatic

consternation: the trackpoint doesn't work >:(

Potato Cat

:-(

bwDraco

03:05

B150, sure. Z170, that raises some eyebrows.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco LPC chip!

allquicatic

@bwDraco this was an absolute barebones Z170 that I picked up due to being low on funds and it being the only Z170M in stock at Microcenter on a weekend when I was upgrading my PC and had Newegg send me a DOA motherboard that was considerably higher end (also Z170M, but more expensive)

bwDraco

lol

Sorry.

Did I annoy you?

Journeyman Geek

actually I think most desktops would have the header

naw

bwDraco

Also, I'm rather confused as to what you mean by "LPC chip".

Journeyman Geek

03:07

I'd have to use my internet grown up voice if you did

@bwDraco LPC stands for... low pin count

allquicatic

this is apparently a "4d75 Rocketfish RF-FLBTAD Bluetooth Adapter" based on a Broadcom BT 3.0 chipset

Journeyman Geek

its essentially a chip that's there for a bunch of legacy things that used to be many chips

allquicatic

it's definitely not good, but it's functioning, so I'll count my blessings

also Primax Electronics is some Chinese knockoff mass-producer that dumps their effluent into Best Buys and sells them at very high prices

it probably doesn't have enough bandwidth or even the logic to handle a single device pushing keyboard and mouse at the same time

Journeyman Geek

Low Pin Count

The Low Pin Count bus, or LPC bus, is a computer bus used on IBM-compatible personal computers to connect low-bandwidth devices to the CPU, such as the boot ROM, "legacy" I/O devices (integrated into a super I/O chip), and Trusted Platform Module (TPM). "Legacy" I/O devices usually include serial and parallel ports, PS/2 keyboard, PS/2 mouse, and floppy disk controller. Most PC motherboards with an LPC bus have either a Platform Controller Hub (PCH) or a southbridge chip, which acts as the host and controls the LPC bus. All other devices connected to the physical wires of the LPC bus are peripherals...

bwDraco

(@JourneymanGeek: I successfully moderated some minor drama while you were away, see here \o/)

allquicatic

03:09

wish I could find my much better Cirago BT dongle

it's a CSR chipset.

@JourneymanGeek you have a good nose, right boy?

bwDraco

Not too familiar with these devices.

Journeyman Geek

@allquicatic yes?

allquicatic

*pets* Good boy!! Go sniff around on my desk for a dongle with a VID of 0012!

Go get it, boy!

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I don't think it was serious.

brings a shoe

allquicatic

...

bwDraco

03:15

I know, but I saw the potential for someone misinterpreting it and wanted to give a bit of a heads-up.

allquicatic

so when my cat grandmother told me that dogs are useless, she wasn't lying

bwDraco

(given that the flag dialog doesn't provide context, it would not be apparent that this was a joke)

Journeyman Geek

buries the dongle in the backyard

bwDraco

That said, there should be a way to quickly view context for a given chat flag so that better decisions can be made.

allquicatic

><

Journeyman Geek

03:17

@bwDraco I think you forgot an important rule of moderation

The chat must flow

bwDraco

Explain?

Journeyman Geek

Also, every modern system has a LPC chip. No one pays attention to them

bwDraco

I was trying to be helpful and avoided the mistakes that plagued earlier attempts to moderate chat issues.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco if someone's joke threatening, its often joke threatening

That's different from say what you'd see from a troll.

bwDraco

My concern was misinterpretation by another user. I wouldn't flag stuff like this any more.

Journeyman Geek

03:19

or that situation with Uncle David

Since I knew specifically that there were folks who might have issues with that

bwDraco

Will bear that in mind for future situations.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco the trick is to understand context and mod exactly as little as possible

bwDraco

Still lots to learn, but this is a step forward nonetheless.

Perhaps I should have written something simpler like this:

Journeyman Geek

In that situation, I'd have watched but done nothing

bwDraco

> Please be careful; someone might misinterpret this as offensive.

Journeyman Geek

03:23

taking into account that one of the folks involved is currently having personal drama.

A good gardener prunes bushes, rather than swings machetes wildly

bwDraco

I was trying to be proactive. I wanted to avoid trouble.

I'll still need lots more experience (my lack of contact with the outside world isn't helping) but thanks for the tips.

bwDraco

Alright then. So why might a motherboard manufacturer expose legacy interfaces on a board where the intended audience would have no use for them?

Wouldn't that needlessly increase BOM cost?

Journeyman Geek

I'd almost guess serial ports are handy for testing

You could in theory still use them for console access

allquicatic

not only that, but there might be people who are looking for modern CPUs and interfaces like USB 3.0 on the same board as old interfaces to antiquated hardware for whatever reason

a niche market, sure, but with all the competition (even within the same board manufacturer) in the motherboard space, they have to differentiate somehow

Journeyman Geek

amusingly, I'm not quite right. LPC is a bus, and supports floppies still. That's not broken out.

allquicatic

03:29

still pretty miffed that I can't find my Cirago dongle, but the Rocketfish one is working well for typing

mechanical's dripping water, trying to shake it out

bwDraco

That sucks.

I went out of my way to preorder my ROCCAT Ryos MK FX and now I'm finding little use for the per-key RGB :\

Any ideas?

I just have the color set to #C000FF for all keys.

Journeyman Geek

lol

is there an API?

I don't really use my razer chroma mouse or headphone lights

but in theory it might be an amusing coding project to reflect stuff like processor or ram usage for spare button lighting

Potato Cat

@allquicatic And you thought she was?

Journeyman Geek

cats lie all the time.

Potato Cat

You would say that wouldn't you

!!s/cats/dogs/

ChatBot John Cavil

03:39

@PotatoCat dogs lie all the time. (source)

Journeyman Geek

SEE!

Potato Cat

Photoshop

bwDraco

One last thing...

anandtech.com/show/10639/…

> Another new feature is Tobi eye tracking built-in to the laptop. [...] the most interesting thing Alienware mentioned in the briefing is that they have software which will track your eye movement, and then when you are killed in a game, you can then replay the kill and find out where your eyes were at the time, and perhaps use this to improve your gaming performance over time.

Wow. Eye tracking as a training tool.

This reminds me of the technology the USOC uses at the Colorado Springs Olympic Training Center to prepare athletes for the Olympics...

Journeyman Geek

lol

maaaaybe if you're like a competitive twitch gamer

Potato Cat

@electronbeam: Hi

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

03:53

@bwDraco damn that's cool, if it actually works

Dog

Woof

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

meowseroof

allquicatic

!! s/./I'm a cat. Check meowt./g 32086863

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquicatic I'm a cat. Check meowt.I'm a cat. Check meowt.I'm a cat. Check meowt.I'm a cat. Check meowt. (source)

3

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

@allquicatic nope.avi

Dog

03:57

@allquicatic lol

bwDraco

@allquicatic Add a space.

Dog

So that's how you use that command directed at a message

!!s/.I/. I/g

bwDraco

!! s/./I'm a cat check meowt /g 32086863

ChatBot John Cavil

@Dog @allquicatic. I'm a cat. Check meowt. I'm a cat. Check meowt. I'm a cat. Check meowt. I'm a cat. Check meowt. (source) (source)

@bwDraco I'm a cat check meowt I'm a cat check meowt I'm a cat check meowt I'm a cat check meowt (source)

bwDraco

lol

allquicatic

03:59

!! s/./ Mew /g 32086892

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquicatic Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew Mew (source)

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . , . . . . . . . . . . .

bwDraco

Good night.

allquicatic

night

NᴏᴠɪᴄᴇIɴDɪsɢᴜɪsᴇ

caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw caw

troll.exe has stopped working and needs to close

Journeyman Geek

04:02

._.

You do know they shoot crows...

bwDraco

anandtech.com/show/10631/…

...which could give AMD a process node advantage for the first time in more than a decade.

...if it ever had one at any point in its history.

While Intel's busy working on 10nm, AMD and GlobalFoundries are aiming to leapfrog Intel.

allquicatic

@bwDraco cool! hope they succeed

Dog

04:28

No

allquicatic

04:40

I'm definitely a cat... found a brand new nail file and got really excited

Dog

Woof

I get excited when there's boxes.

And cat toys

And mice

Journeyman Geek

04:58

Why would you need to store nails in files... boxen work better

Catty McCatFace

Silly dog. You will never understand.

Journeyman Geek

IMPOSTER!

and I see you discovered the trick with nicks

Journeyman Cat

7 hours ago, by Potato Cat

I've figured out how you do it

7 hours ago, by Potato Cat

Changing your name between guy, gato and horse all the time. I know your secret.

Journeyman Geek

actually I think he just waits the 30 days

Journeyman Cat

Not when he does it every one days

Journeyman Geek

05:06

That said, he follows a theme so we know it is.

Journeyman Cat

Aug 26 at 11:17, by That Brazilian Gato

@OliverSalzburg I bet when you say "sign", it means on paper, not digitally. Because f#$& technology, right?

Journeyman Geek

That brazillian (notwax) ;p

Journeyman Cat

That Brazilian Gato, Brazil

4k 4 37 76

That Brazilian Guy, Brazil

1.3k 3 11 23

debian fedora gnome gnome3 logs apache-httpd apt

That Brazilian Headless Horse, Brazil

1.1k 3 9 35

12.04 installation dualhead multiple-monitors netbeans networking usb

Hey I have a theme, it's just more sophisticated and less blatantly obvious.

Journeyman Geek

!!s/more/less/

ChatBot John Cavil

@JourneymanGeek Hey I have a theme, it's just less sophisticated and less blatantly obvious. (source)

Catty McCatFace

05:11

Shhh silly dog

!!trout JourneymanGeek

ChatBot John Cavil

slaps JourneymanGeek around a bit with a large trout!

Journeyman Geek

pistolwhips @CattyMcCatFace with a triggerfish

bitchshaps @CattyMcCatFace with a dogfish

swats @CattyMcCatFace with a catfish

Beats the fear of god into @CattyMcCatFace with a monkfish

Potato Cat

!!shoedave @JourneymanGeek

ChatBot John Cavil

guitars @@JourneymanGeek around a bit with @Dave's shoe!

Journeyman Geek

muzzleloads @PotatoCat into a potato canon and launches them into orbit

Journeyman Cat

05:13

Who you calling a potato, silly doge.

Journeyman Geek

sends @JourneymanCat off to be an apprentice

yup. totally no theme ;p

kerbalspacecat

None at all.

Who are you to judge sophistication anyway. Canid.

Journeyman Geek

Babylon 5: Breakfast Prank

►

That Brazilian Cat

Journeyman Geek

05:29

arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/09/…

That Brazilian Cat

Yeah, saw that

Journeyman Geek

OO may be dead

That Brazilian Cat

TBH I'm glad. I'd rather the community just conglomerate around one fork

Bob

@CattyMcCatFace uhm. giant nsfw-text...

I mean, I'm not actually at work right now with it being Sat and all, buuuuuuut

@CattyMcCatFace but you can't use them to connect to a bt keyboard, can you?

@JourneymanGeek Ok. One door went on alright. Another has a sloping frame (w/ gap). Another has a frame 1cm too wide and 2cm too short (spent two hours planing the top and bottom of the door... no idea what to do for the edge). Another frame is 1cm too wide.

Journeyman Geek

05:45

@Bob sounds around right

Bob

I really need to have a "word" with the guy who installed the frames.

s/word/fist/

Journeyman Geek

oh

Before I forget

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Just trying to figure out what to do with the extra gaps -_-

brb gotta wash a ton of sawdust out of my hair... and eyes

The goggles do nothing!

Journeyman Geek

lol

Catty McCatFace

@Bob ^^

Journeyman Geek

05:48

@Bob for some reason I think you're supposed to shim the door side of things

Catty McCatFace

I wonder what other interesting tidbits of carrier information Android 7 provides

Bob

@JourneymanGeek :\

Journeyman Geek

you shim the hinge to make it squarish, then plane flat

Catty McCatFace

@Bob No, the unifying receivers are proprietary RF only but the devices themselves are dual-mode.

Which I sorta like more than I should. Because really I practically never use them in Bluetooth mode except when I can't find the dingle

Dingle dongle stupid auto-incorrect

Bob

@CattyMcCatFace Only the pricier devices iirc

@JourneymanGeek nah, we're planning to add extra wood to the frame

the hinge side is straight

Journeyman Geek

05:54

._.

Bob

it's the catch side that's sloped

shimming one hinge would make the door itself sloped :\

@CattyMcCatFace -_-

Samsung might release N next year

Journeyman Geek

I bought a REALLY cheap engraver. Its got the most amazingly janky construction

Catty McCatFace

@Bob I don't buy cheap devices I guess. I'm too posh for that.

Journeyman Geek

Its a tube with an oddly shaped spring, with a sleeve + battery and a round top covered in stuff

!!s/post/snobby/

Bob

@CattyMcCatFace lol. my G602 isn't exactly cheap either, but it's got a dedicated receiver (not unifying, no BT on the device)

MX Master does unifying and BT too... got one of those for work

Catty McCatFace

05:56

@Bob Maybe, but maybe also means other newer/cheaper devices will start providing more info

Bob

@CattyMcCatFace hopefully!

"implementing the feature"

Catty McCatFace

@Bob huh that must be old. AFAIK all the newest wireless devices are unifying no matter how cheap

@Bob well, yeah, a lot of phones don't implement the existing android signal measurement APIs correctly or at all

Bob

@CattyMcCatFace nah it's just special cause "gaming"

Catty McCatFace

@Bob oh. Magic low larynx stuff?

Bob

ya

Catty McCatFace

05:58

Larynx? Latency. Fucking auto cucumber

Journeyman Geek

XD

Bob

does up to 500 Hz poll rate

wired can go up to 1000 iirc

default is 125

not that it really matters to me :\

Didn't know it did low larynx until a month after the purchase

Catty McCatFace

Lol

My pretty ancient G500 does 1000Hz wired I think. Never really noticed the difference. I was pwning boobs in COD even with shitty gear.

Boobs? Noobs. fucking auto go die in a fire

Journeyman Geek

lol

Catty McCatFace

I give up. I'm going to bed. Plus it's 7am

Bob

06:20

@CattyMcCatFace yea most wired ones can but you need to do something with drivers

I never bothered

Journeyman Geek

heh, sorted the charging problem

I have a mini b to c cable. (oops). Got that in my nuc, and snaked it to my headphones, and its long enoug

joy

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