Root Access

DavidPostill

00:00

@oldmud0 I don't need sandboxing. I've never caught anything nasty.

oldmud0

Sandboxing isn't all about malware. When you install crappy or old software, it tends to leave behind scraps of registry. With sandboxing, you can make sure that when you uninstall a product, it's uninstalled.

Psycogeek

crappy new software leaves more junk than crappy old software did.

DavidPostill

@oldmud0 I'm careful what I install. I don't install crap or old software. And if I did I'm well capable of cleaning up myself.

Dog

!!caat

ChatBot John Cavil

oldmud0

00:03

You are a DOG. can you not be a DOG for one day.

ONE single day?

Goddog it!

Dog

!!caaaaaat

ChatBot John Cavil

oldmud0

!!dooooog

ChatBot John Cavil

@oldmud0 That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: dooooooog

oldmud0

Aghghghhghg!

Dog

00:04

!!caaaaat

oldmud0

Screw it! Screw windows 10!

ChatBot John Cavil

oldmud0

Screw you too!

ChatBot John Cavil

oldmud0

Screw the cats, I have one on my desk!!

Why does inventory-retrieval take so long??!?!?

It takes HOURS

and what shows up? one? two files??

Isn't amazon glacier just glorified TFTP

DavidPostill

00:08

@oldmud0 lol. You are such a good promoter for Windows 10 (not). You are living proof of exactly why I'm not going to upgrade to a beta operating system.

oldmud0

How am I a good promoter

How exactly am I a good promoter

I hate windows 10 but guess what??

I don't have a choice

In fact it's better for me to use win10 as a transitional os to switch to debian

DavidPostill

@oldmud0 See that bit that said "(not)" :)

oldmud0

Yeah but you're assuming that I'm trying to be a promoter

No I'm not

You are living proof of why I don't talk to people over the internet for long periods of time

Ohhh look what the grate caught!! a big piece of argument

DavidPostill

@oldmud0 So why did you spend 1/2 hour ranting because I want to stay on Windows 7? Make your mind up.

oldmud0

So hard to get those big pieces off. Like a kidney stone

Why did I spend it??? Ohh I don't know

Talking to imaginary people like my brother says

I don't know I guess I am a masochist who loves feeling hurt

Ohhh look at me, I feel sooo torn right now

Torn between two pieces of softs

IT'S LIFE AND DEATH

windows 10... the fifth bolgia!!

DavidPostill

00:13

@oldmud0 You are such a drama queen.

oldmud0

Queen? Thanks

Look man, I suffer from XY problem and impostor syndrome.

I think I'm a fraud "but you are a fraud"

You hear the voice in the back of my head criticizing me??

"yeah that's called the truth"

Dog

How many cats does it take to change a lightbulb? None. Cats are too stupid to change lightbulbs.

oldmud0

How many oldmuds does it take to change a lightbulb? None. Oldmud doesn't use a lightbulb.

DavidPostill

@oldmud0 You can get help for that ...

oldmud0

Yeah, it's called "get off the computer"

@oldmud0

Dog

00:19

How many lightbulbs does it take to change a cat? None. Cats are too stupid to change.

oldmud0

Fine, to strip myself of all my dignity I will unmask myself. oldmud0 is not my first alias. My first alias is longbyte1. But guess what? I don't want people to look at my history when they look up longbyte1.

Ohh what a stupid name. longbyte1? seriously?

you can't be a "long" and a "byte" you stupid idiot

DavidPostill

How many oldmuds does it take to change a lightbulb? As many as there are in his head. He just has to count them and listen to all those voices.

oldmud0

and what does the 1 even stand for???

DavidPostill

What does the 0 stand for?

oldmud0

and while I'm at it, i'm not even old, where is the mud even from , and wtf did the 0 come from

just ban me for "idiot" yet

DavidPostill

00:22

Existential crisis

An existential crisis is a moment at which an individual questions the very foundations of their life: whether this life has any meaning, purpose, or value. This issue of the meaning and purpose of existence is the topic of the philosophical school of existentialism. == Description == An existential crisis may result from, be a misdiagnosis of, or be comorbid with: Major depressive disorder Major sleep deprivation Prolonged isolation Dissatisfaction with one's life Major psychological trauma The sense of being alone and isolated in the world; A new-found grasp or appreciation of one's mortality...

Journeyman Geek

@oldmud0 you're monologing

bwDraco

@oldmud0: you okay?

oldmud0

what?

someone reported me?

Journeyman Geek

No, I just woke up to a wall of text

and felt it was my duty to state the obvious

oldmud0

Oh good morning. That's my dream. Just have everyone afk for long enough for me to put a wall of yellow text.

Incredibles Monologue

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Journeyman Geek

00:24

before I restarted my main desktop for the anniversery update.

oldmud0

Oh look it's somebody who uses win10! Please explain davidpostill why you use win10!

Journeyman Geek

And really, we're not going to judge you. Even if you're a mac user. Or run kobri OS as your daily driver

oldmud0

Noo, nobody is going to judge me except myself.

Journeyman Geek

two words. Why not?

oldmud0

My ego is just too big.

See, the big bubble is starting to split off

Well I tried upgrading with the accessibility pleb ticket.

But something happen while it was installing updates and it just reverted everything.

Journeyman Geek

00:27

they disabled that

Ben N

Check the log? %windir%\Panther\setuperr.log

Oh, that's over now?

Journeyman Geek

cause abled people were abusing it. And that's ablist.

I saw it right here ;p

Ben N

I guess I got it just in time then :)

oldmud0

What do you mean they "disabled it"

Journeyman Geek

google.com.sg/…

my bad

looks like they're removing the page

oldmud0

00:29

$120

I could pay $120 for a new graphics card 100x better than the one I have right now.

Journeyman Geek

That said, if you don't use assistive tech, you're bad and you should feel bad, and yer a procrastinator harry,

oldmud0

I could pay $120 to upgrade my server.

So you know what? Screw windows 10.

SCREW WINDOWS 10.

I missed that exit.

Dog

I am Doge.

oldmud0

So let's go debian.

Journeyman Geek

@oldmud0 I think you're essentially trying to get a reaction out of people. That's bad

Go debian, go ahead.

Ben N

00:30

!!doge upgrade,os,accessible,cheat,10

ChatBot John Cavil

    wow
                       many upgrade
much os
                 such accessible
                       very cheat
so 10

oldmud0

!!doge I,think,you're,essentially,trying,to,get,a,reaction,out,of,people,that's,bad,ass‌istive,tech,bad,procrastinator,harry,removing,upgrade,idiot,cat,dog,mouse,john,ca‌lvin,ben,oldmud

ChatBot John Cavil

    wow
                      many I
very think
               so you're
                             much essentially
such trying
               much to
                             so get
such a
           very reaction
                        many out
many of
               very people
                       such that's
much bad
           so assistive
                             many tech
so bad
             much procrastinator
                           such harry
very removing
             such upgrade

oldmud0

one heck of a script

Dog

!!doge cat,caat,caaat,caaaat,caaaaat,caaaaaat,caaaaaaat,caaaaaaaat,caaaaaaaat,caaaaaaaa‌aat

ChatBot John Cavil

00:32

   wow
much cat
              so caat
                             very caaat
such caaaat
                 many caaaaat
                            many caaaaaat
very caaaaaaat
            such caaaaaaaat
                            so caaaaaaaat
much caaaaaaaaaat

Journeyman Geek

@Dog you're catting too much. Less catting, more dogging.

Dog

!!doge !!doge,!!doge,!!doge,!!doge,!!doge,!!doge,!!doge,!!doge,!!doge,!!doge

ChatBot John Cavil

 wow
such !!doge
           very !!doge
                        much !!doge
so !!doge
                 many !!doge
                          such !!doge
many !!doge
                much !!doge
                         very !!doge
so !!doge

Journeyman Geek

@Dog stop trying to break cavil.

Also ugh guys. We're just monologing and bot abusing this morning.

Dog

I am the dogemaster

How many doges does it take to doge a dogebulb? None because doges are too doge to doge a dogebulb.

Ben N

00:35

Sorry. In other news, the AI site started earlier today

Or, well, yesterday actually if we're in UTC

Journeyman Geek

SE site?

Ben N

Yep

Somehow I have a talent for committing to SE sites that have shaky scopes

Journeyman Geek

Lol. I rarely commit.

Last one was sr.se

Dog

doge.se

Ben N

That worked out pretty well

bwDraco

00:38

Looks like we've got a bit of drama here :\

Ben N

Eh, not too bad

oldmud0

@bwDraco Me, it's just me!

bwDraco

lol

Dog

!!s/(Me|me)/doge/g

ChatBot John Cavil

@Dog @bwDraco doge, it's just doge! (source)

oldmud0

00:40

Event Name: Win10UpgradeProgramInChina

Dog

Aaaand that's it from me today. Doge out. o/

oldmud0

Good

Ben N

I thought you were in Texas?

oldmud0

I am

Ben N

Or maybe that's the error code the activation servers return for all license-violating stuff?

oldmud0

00:42

Oh look it's the microsoft police!!!! run for your lives!!

Ben N

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A: Windows 10 upgrade failing with "Win10UpgradeProgramInChina" events in Event Viewer

Turns out those Win10UpgradeProgramInChina messages were not relevant to my problems at all (still can't make sense of them). While I don't know what caused Windows 10 Upgrade Assistant to fail, I did manage to upgrade using Media Creation Tool (described here). The latter does not like it when ...

Bob

@Dog 'night

Ben N

Does that help?

oldmud0

Nahhh, MCT won't do anything past deadline right

Look just screw it all right?

Ben N

Right, but that might apply to the other program

bwDraco

00:44

> (maybe this write up helps some other poor soul out there)

lol

Ben N

But if you don't want Win10, then you should stop trying :)

oldmud0

I will stop trying

Don't worry I'll get win10 when I afford my next compo

(never)

2

Actually I could make money selling crap like softs.

But I don't want to get pushed to those levels of standards

bwDraco

@oldmud0: This monologue is getting disruptive. Can you cut it out?

oldmud0

It's not a monologue it's just a one-sided discussion

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DavidPostill

@bwDraco A light touch approach to moderation would include the word "please" :)

oldmud0

00:49

I have a blog but since nobody reads it I kind of stopped bothering.

Ben N

@oldmud0 I read it

oldmud0

I've almost run out ways to get attention without being overly violent.

Oh..

bwDraco

Sorry, had trouble wording it better

Ben N

Agent N keeps tabs on everyone ⌐■_■

oldmud0

Oh dear, you read my blog....

DavidPostill

00:51

lol "I vowed to stop doing these rants, but I can’t."

Ben N

I'm not sure what to say to that, but if it helps, there are a boatload of awesome schools like MIT that just don't currently have the massively successful PR

Dog

I am the harbinger of the dogeaggedon. You will bow down and submit to my dogeing.

Journeyman Geek

My PC is updating.

Dog

Damn auto-incorrect tried to change that to dogging

Ben N

The new Win10 build?

Journeyman Geek

00:53

Also for some reason it tried to reinstall synapse and failed

Yup

@DavidPostill this is so true.

bwDraco

..."can you please try to stop" would have been better.

Journeyman Geek

01:21

@bwDraco I think "don't moderate annoyed" is a key thing

oldmud0

All right, I'm out. Can't even cut the spaghetti with my teeth

Bob

try cooking it first

Journeyman Geek

@oldmud0 oddly enough, I suspect people would pay attention to you more if you didn't, well, rant. We do have a certain degree of acceptance for silliness, but "I hate windows 10" gets tiresome after a while, and folk might be too polite to actually talk and engage if you're filling our screens. We get it. You hate windows 10. We'd really love it if you'd move on and focus on things you love, rather than hate. Its much better for our atmosphere.

oldmud0

My planet has a variable atmosphere. Sometimes it doesn't have an atmosphere.

That's why people don't want to set foot on my planet. They fear what will happen to them.

Hmm, that sounded ok.

Journeyman Geek

Not really

But that's something we can work on.

oldmud0

01:28

Sorry, I feel kind of insane because I do everything "wrong"

Like, why the heck am I waiting 6 hours for an inventory retrieval from Glacier?

Just use backblaze!

Ben N

You're doing some things right; I've seen you working on things that interest you, and that's a good thing

Everybody gets it wrong sometimes

oldmud0

Well ok.

Guess you set down my paper airplane real gentle.

Bob

> 50GB for $59.95/Month Data SIM

O_O

oldmud0

Sounds like AT.

It's not AT&T, they don't do telegrams anymore.

Bob

Wrong country.

oldmud0

01:35

Sky(net)?

Bob

That plan honestly came out of nowhere...

Hm.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob that sounds pretty good actually

bwDraco

Windows 10 is updated.

It's getting late here. Night.

Ben N

Bye!

bwDraco

Trying to wake up earlier, that's why you're seeing me leave earlier.

Bob

01:50

@JourneymanGeek yea, it does

I'm tempted

even though I already have some 8 GB available on my current mobile broadband contract ($30/mo)

and I only use maybe 4-6 of that

50 would mostly be used for uploading things at home :P

and downloading...

Journeyman Geek

(ugh, If Full time permanent employment and the 4th telco happen at the same time, I would be tempted to get a 60 dollar unlimited plan ;p)

Bob

02:16

@JourneymanGeek unlimited plans... aren't really available here :P

I wonder if they'd give you one for $1000/mo

Journeyman Geek

@Bob its a newish telco

Journeyman Geek

02:35

hm. That went terribly

2 BSODs so far

Rahul2001

02:47

@Bob The only permanent plan you can get here is limited to 2mbps

Bob

03:00

@JourneymanGeek so are these guys :P

@JourneymanGeek O_O

Journeyman Geek

@Bob myrepublic's promising big things. The other telco who is bidding is hellotel, who are low key

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ozbargain.com.au/node/259881#comment-3898545

OVO is... new

I've never actually heard of em

Journeyman Geek

OVO sounds ~~eggy~~ chinese

Bob

lol

Rahul2001

I'm not on Root Access's "frequently in the room" tab :/

How do I check my total reputation throughout the network?

How do I kill clippy?

Psycogeek

03:17

@Rahul2001 chat.stackexchange.com/users/146966/rahul2001 2.2k

Rahul2001

@Psycogeek THat only includes the sites where I have more than 200 rep, doesn't it?

Eh, whatever, I'll just add the rest...

allquixotic

my Windows 10 updated and I don't notice anything different at all :P

had to re-switch my RNDIS driver to NDIS6 but that's about it; Start10 works

I/O perf and responsiveness in Windows Explorer seems a bit better, but that may be due to some kind of cache clearing or defragmenting or cleanup somewhere

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic the start menu shows an alphabetical listing by default

and I have much more tiles than I used to

oldmud0

see Why is a sorted array faster than an unsorted array?

look my amazeen glasheer will only caust me $3.80 a mo

Journeyman Geek

03:56

Psycogeek

04:11

@Rahul2001 yea could be it doesnt include your Free no work rep :-)

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek burd

Psycogeek

so cool that the browser stop button stops gifanims, but the chat keeps right on working.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

> Privatize Telecom, they said.
It'll be cheaper, they said.
You'll like it, they said.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob the trick is to have two former government monopolies who hate each other.

Then give them different, not entirely overlapping infrasctructure

Psycogeek

04:31

I have (another) million doller idea. in the US here you know they have natural gas lines run to all the houses. yet the people (here at least) use more gallons of Automobile gas than they use natural gas, so why wasnt that piped to each house? I figure it would save 20 billion tons of carbon footprint, to ship gasoline direct to the homes.

(it really never saves anything, marketing made me say it was "green" )

Rahul2001

05:55

@Psycogeek I have 190 rep on programmers, 89 of that was hardwork...

@Psycogeek If it catches fire in one place, it will blow up everywhere...

Bob

06:26

my test VM on Azure is licenced to "Ryan" o.O

Burgi

07:25

morning

DavidPostill

morning

Leathe

morning

Bob

07:42

evening

Burgi

no wonder our sites keep getting hacked, they are running a thousand silly little plugins

Sathya

hey folks

DavidPostill

hi @Sathya

Leathe

@Burgi WP plugins? :P

Burgi

@Leathe yeah

Leathe

07:47

Ahh. Vulnerability by plugin.

Burgi

probably

the sites are all stupidly slow because of them as well

Leathe

There are so many plugins to Wordpress that have security vulnerabilities that lets you do all kinds of stuff that a user shouldn't be able to

like gain access to the admin panel without a login

Burgi

we have a simple blog sat on a 4 core 8GB server and it has load times of 10+ seconds

Leathe

:S

Sathya

I'm trying to do this: superuser.com/questions/412866/…

basically my .screenrc creates 3 screens, but I want to start up vagrant instances when I launch screen

If do screen -t Devbox 3 bash 'cd ~/code/developer-box && vagrant up then the window closes once vagrat up is run

how do I get it to not close?

Journeyman Geek

07:58

hmm

unix.stackexchange.com/questions/47271/… are you getting a screen is terminated message?

Leathe

@Sathya " Per default screen windows are removed from the window list as soon as
the windows process (e.g. shell) exits. When a string of two keys is
specified to the zombie command, `dead' windows will remain in the
list. The kill command may be used to remove such a window. Pressing
the first key in the dead window has the same effect. When pressing the
second key, screen will attempt to resurrect the window. The process
that was initially running in the window will be launched again. Call‐

Bob

26

Q: run bash command in new shell and stay in new shell after this command executes

I've got a problem. I'm searching for long time for this answer - how can I run command in new bash shell and stay in this NEW shell after this commands executes. So for example: bash -c "export PS1='> ' && ls" will make new shell, export PS1, list directories and ... will exit to my current s...

Use rcfile :P

3

Q: Make bash run a command right after it starts and then stay in this session?

I need to run the command right after the bash starts and then stay in the session. I was expecting something like that would work bash && cd ~/Work, but, apparentely, it would run the second command in the initial session, not the one I'm starting. I've found this run bash command in new shell ...

bash

You're looking at keeping the shell (bash) open, not the terminal (screen)

Dog

08:30

!! Caat

ChatBot John Cavil

Dog

touch.www.linkedin.com/…

Probably not that Ryan

azure.microsoft.com/en-gb/blog/author/ryancraw

Oliver Salzburg

Can anyone tell me when you have to use quotes in an nginx configuration?

I've seen so many variations, I'm not even sure anymore

1

Q: When do you have to use quotes in the configuration?

I've seen people use excessive quotes: add_header 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' '*'; I've seen people use no quotes: add_header Access-Control-Allow-Origin *; Both work fine as far as I know, so when do you actually have to use quotes?

nginx

Sathya

@Bob thanks

Psycogeek

08:46

If i was going to pay $400 for a shoe, this looks like the one to do that. en.enko-running-shoes.com/enko-running

Dog

09:24

@Psycogeek That looks more like a part of a powered exoskeleton

@OliverSalzburg Both "Always" and "Never".

Journeyman Geek

feels like a style/readability thing

Dog

As with pretty much every other *nix configuration parser, pretty much.

Also easier to do "Abc; abcd abcde; abcdef" than Abc\;\ abcd\ abcde\;\ abcdef

It's when you put extra quotes in when you shouldn't have then things get real weird.

Dog

09:47

Dafuq, why is Google emailing me in Arabic

Journeyman Geek

might be fake

Dog

That was my initial thought, but GMail usually puts warnings on fake emails (including everything from their domains that aren't signed)

Well the auto-translate says

> I received this message because [email protected] is your recovery for email [email protected] . If you do not [email protected] your account with Google, click here to unlink from this account, and stop receiving e - mails.

Wonder if it's some new dorky way for spammers to check if an account is active or not?

I know they used to use fake "Unsubscribe" links to do that - if you clicked the Unsubscribe link they knew the account was active. But to add others' emails to your own GMail account seems extreme... and also can't be done en-masse

Maybe I just have some random Arab stalker.

Journeyman Geek

maybe he just mashed on the keyboard?

check the links, and the raw message?

Dog

The links are all legit - they go to accounts.google.com

support.google.com/accounts/answer/1304777?topic=14142?hl=en-GB

Burgi

10:47

You couldn't have made a suggestion without negative voting me? Thanks. So far this site sucks. I got a negative vote for a well thought out Autohotkey question too. Pointless. People need to humble themselves rather than stomp on others so quickly. — DjIns1ght 1 hour ago

cheeky bugger

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi thinking you DVed is a bit of an assumption

> NOTE: Remember to bring your socks. Socks will be on sale onsite

(invite for an alumni association bowling event)

Journeyman Geek

11:13

お昼寝の前にお話しないと眠れない猫♥♥猫との会話を楽しむ動画 Conversation with a cat

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bwDraco

11:43

tomshardware.com/news/…

> Niantic technically created Pokemon Go, and The Pokemon Company and Nintendo do not own it, but the plaintiffs levied the class action lawsuit against all three companies. As The Pokemon Company merely licensed the IP to Niantic, and Nintendo is not directly involved with Pokemon Go, it is unlikely that the Plaintiffs will succeed in pressing these charges against either company.

Disgusting shotgun litigation.

Why do plaintiffs have to name even tangentially-related parties as defendants?

Journeyman Geek

Cause lawyers get paid anyway.

And they hope one of em will fold

HackToHell

Is there a way to install Arch to another partition from Ubuntu

Journeyman Geek

Hm. In theory just following the instructions might work.

Bob

flop

I need to trim an Azure VM's VHD...

It's a Win7 one.

Easy in Win10 and Server2012 cause there's a PowerShell command, but...

3

Q: Trim Azure VHD size in Windows 2008

I have an azure virtual machine and due to a broken backup script, it has previously used the entire 127GB of space. My virtual machine is now only using 20GB however I'm still being charged for the full 127GB. I know I need to trim the disk and in windows 2012 it's a simple case of running in P...

windows-server-2008-r2 azure vhd trim

No answers!

Then the second Google result... stackoverflow.com/questions/24600648/… Same asker! No answers again! -_-

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