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Journeyman Geek

15:01

I think I've posted screenshots of that

That Brazilian Guy

Clippy how do I make my coworkers SHUT THE F@$%# UP

Journeyman Geek

That Brazilian Guy

Oh, great. The only time you actually want Clippy to show up, it won't!

Journeyman Geek

how do I stop @ThatBrazilianGuy whining?

Burgi

@ThatBrazilianGuy the north americans tend to use an assault rifle....

Journeyman Geek

15:06

2

That Brazilian Guy

> Did you mean: Give @ThatBrazilianGuy a permanent, paid vacation?

Burgi

lol

djsmiley2k

to the bottom of the seeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaa

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy That sounds like something the Brazi- oh.

cat

@JourneymanGeek Max Curr: 1800mA Current Curr: 3500mA Huh

Anyway. QC is basically adaptive voltage, constant current.

Bob

15:10

Mine is currently maxing out at ~2800mA on QC2.0 at 40%.

cat

@Bob Yeah that's about what the S7 will manage

Bob

@cat With the screen off, of course :P

I'd like to see actual line current and voltage but I'll have ot wait for delivery of that meter first.

cat

@Bob I'm <================ this =================> close to finding a kernel hack to override that

Bob

ohai clippy

cat

It does appear that using QC instead of "regular" 5v/2A charging adds an additional ~10% of power loss mind you. (Charging off my portable charger that is)

Bob

15:11

@cat Lemme know if you find one.

cat

Which isn't that surprising - converting off a LiIon cell #up to 9v and back down again.

Bob

Switch screen on => 1000mA max charge current.

Samsung, wat.

cat

@Bob Not even: Screen on, maximum draw of 6w from the port.

Whether you get 1000mA or not depends on if the rest of the phone is using 5w or not :-P

Didn't you say some LG phones had the same "feature" though?

Bob

@cat I'm just going by what Ampere reports

@cat Yea the G4 was even worse

I think it did some 500mA charge

cat

@Bob Run 6 threads of CPUBurn in the background and watch your Ampere rate plummet ;)

Bob

15:14

Didn't have Ampere at the time

Screen on, otherwise idle

Anyway, bought two a to c cables

Crap, forgot to include a hub in the order...

djsmiley2k

superuser.com/review/first-posts/558664

spam??

That Brazilian Guy

Brazilian terrorist tries to explode building with ginger candy (yep, that's real news)

cat

@djsmiley2k No not really, just a very poor answer

Burgi

i flagged it as spam

last week

cat

I don't see how it's spam

Journeyman Geek

15:23

@cat max current is detected for USB C and is for cables apparently. Shouldn't exceed 3A

bwDraco

That's not quite spam (even though it may read like one).

djsmiley2k

i just skipped as 'wtf?'

Journeyman Geek

@Bob eh, a USB voltmeter is tempting but I haz too much stuff

Bob

@JourneymanGeek heh, well, I was paying $14 for the express shipping anyway, so...

I'm just annoyed that I forgot the hub

eh, next time

bwDraco

We're moving to another home soon.

Bob

15:24

or the 3-4-week free airmail

bwDraco

Hence we're getting rid of lots of stuff.

Bob

hm. S7 Edge price dropped again at the place I bought it

let's see if my CC will be willing to refund another $48 :D

Journeyman Geek

@Bob most of my current stuff's in

cat

@Bob Order the hub now with free delivery?

Bob

@cat eh, could do, but I don't really need the hub anyway

Journeyman Geek

15:26

I might tack that on with, I donno, something else

Bob

that tablet is my only USB-C dev

Journeyman Geek

I might want to get a skinnier phone case

Bob

and I have the USB3 OTG cable anyway

USB-C to USB-A 3.0 hub would be interesting but not particularly useful

Journeyman Geek

oh, and in case I forgot - @cat yeah, bought and installed. Seems to work

cat

@JourneymanGeek Does it make the back of the phone/case bulge?

Bob

15:27

oh is this the qi thing?

cat

Mine seems to stick out enough to have made the case crack :-/

Journeyman Geek

@cat no

seems snug but not bulgy

cat

Hmm

Maybe mine was just an extra shitty one... where did you get yours from?

Journeyman Geek

"made the case crack" 0_0

dx?

Bob

@cat wait, what phone? o.O I thought the S7 included one

S4?

cat

15:28

@Bob S4

Bob

ah

Journeyman Geek

and it was pretty shitty, the soldering on the pins was a bit off kilter

Bob

I can try installing mine

no idea where I put it

Journeyman Geek

dx.com/p/… Is the one I got

looks like the S4's connection points are different

bwDraco

...wait a sec. On a closer look, that answer is spam.

Links for unaffiliated products alongside an unlinked, obscure product are an attempt to deceive reviewers.

Journeyman Geek

15:34

naw, its just a shitty answer

rofl

its a review audit?

Bob

oh, found it

next up: finding my S4

Journeyman Geek

0_0

@Bob isn't that your primary phone?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek come to think of it I appear to have lost my S7 too

Journeyman Geek

0_0

@cat DX is my favoured crapgadget vendor.

Bob

oh it's on my bed

cat

15:36

HackToHell

Happy bday @JMG

Journeyman Geek

I do sometimes buy stuff elsewhere but not as much

cat

The connectors on my S4 one aren't even straight

Journeyman Geek

@cat my brother's s3 has the same style of case, but flippy

cat

I had the flippy S3 case

Good job that's not my back cover

That said I did notice the battery I pulled from that phone was severely bloated a few days ago but didn't notice it being bloated when I took it out

Burgi

15:38

the druggies are back

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek IT'S A TRAP!

Bob

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek Read this as craigslist

then went 'wtf you have a favorate on craigslist!?'

Journeyman Geek

tho, I sometimes buy (suprisingly big ticket items) off ebay

Bob

@cat ^

cat

15:41

I tore it apart because it was annoying me

Journeyman Geek

o0

"That said I did notice the battery I pulled from that phone was severely bloated a few days ago but didn't notice it being bloated when I took it out"

There's a question on that on SU....

Bob

oh the charger works with s7 if I position it juuuuust right

dunno why people like wireless charging :\

Journeyman Geek

yeah

cat

@Bob It's great for the super lazy

Bob

I'm too lazy

wired is easier

cat

15:43

As in when I have to pull my phone up twenty times in a night while lying in bed and can't be bothered dragging the cable or disconnecting it

Journeyman Geek

@Bob the phone has a dodgy charger that works if you hold it just right and this seemed an easier option

Bob

wireless is fiddly

cat

Or when I put my phone down in the office and can't be bothered finding my USB cable

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell thanks

@Bob it is

cat

I can also have one charger work with many phone, even USB-C ones

@Bob Nah. The new Samsung fast charger fixes that

Journeyman Geek

15:44

@cat as long as it dosen't have an AL shell

Bob

@cat ah, I don't have the particularly new stuff

sitll, I like being able to use my phone while it's charging :P

the only use-case for wireless that makes sense to me is when the wired port is wet

cat

@Bob It's just a stand so the phone always slots into the correct position

@Bob Oh yeah, there's that too

Bob

@cat I have this one: ozbargain.com.au/node/195419

marked price is something like $130 O_O

cat

Huh. That should be relatively un-fiddly

Bob

@cat I put it on... it didn't charge

cat

15:46

blob:http%3A//imgur.com/abab276e-b610-4abb-b7ee-a49fd52709ca

wtf imgur

Bob

I flipped it upside down a few times... no charge

cat

Bob

I took it off and put it on a few more times... charge

at 220mA.

cat

On that one it either charges or falls off.

You know it's not charging if it falls off

Journeyman Geek

@cat @catlike typing detected

Bob

15:46

@cat lol

Burgi

we are thinking of setting up a website called druggie-watch.co.uk

Journeyman Geek

@cat that's a feature

cat

If it doesn't fall off, it pretty much always charges, nomatter what orientation

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi webcam. Then eventually deathmatches.

cat

Took 2.5 hours to charge my S4 wirelessly last night

Not great, but not terrible

I wish my motorbike had wireless charging, because then I wouldn't have tugged my phone off the dash by the cable and smashed the glass

Burgi

15:48

the police still haven't arrived

bwDraco

None of my devices have wireless charging :(

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek thats the plan ;)

i use the USB port in my car to charge my devices

or the 12v

Bob

@Burgi wait police what

cat

@Burgi Lot harder to drop a phone on a petrol station forecourt when it's in a car than on a bike :-/

But yeah, I smashed the back of my S7

At a petrol stop I didn't even need or want to do

Bob

@cat O_O already?!

...insurance?

That Brazilian Guy

15:50

cat

@Bob Yup

Bob

or just stick it in a case I guess

cat

@Bob Maybe

Bob

glass replacement on the S7... is pretty iffy

the curved edges :\

and yours is curved on the back more

cat

Yup

Burgi

15:51

@ThatBrazilianGuy sounds legit

cat

I could live with it if it was still waterproof, but I'm not certain, and the only way to find out is to well... break it

Bob

urk

would your insurance care if it had water damage in addition to the cracks? :P

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek Happy birthday my man.

Bob

@cat could always coat the back in silicone? wouldn't look particularly nice

cat

@Bob Lol

Journeyman Geek

15:54

@jokerdino XD. just in time ;p

Thanks

@Bob or a case...

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy TFTS?

I opened that tab a few hours ago but didn't actually read it :P

Journeyman Geek

I have one of those ugly wallet tyle ones

Bob

@JourneymanGeek cases usually aren't waterproof

especially when the phone itself already is

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek woo, 6 minutes on the clock.

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob Yeah. That's one of my daily reads ;p

Canadian Luke

15:58

I saw a horrible "lifehack" on YouTube with the eggs from Kinder Surprises (illegal in the USA according to the FDA), and they used saran wrap, those eggs, and hot glue to make a "case" for your phone

That Brazilian Guy

Kinder Eggs are illegal in the US?!?!?!?!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!??!

The only reason I can imagine is "OMG think of the cildrennn!!!!!111!1oneone1"

Bob

what thermal paste do people use these days?

Canadian Luke

Because it has non-food inside of food... Breaks one of the FDA's rules

Bob

last time (~2012) I just used AS5

Canadian Luke

I still use Arctic Silver 5 @Bob

Bob

16:02

ah, so not many changes then?

Burgi

fourth deal of the day.... same users, different cars

bwDraco

Microwave ovens and Wi-Fi: How bad is it for you? I tend to get a slightly degraded signal and performance when the microwave is running. (This should have no effect if you use 802.11ac, but just asking...)

Canadian Luke

@bwDraco It affects one of the buildings I support, but I suspect it's because they have a laser printer, switch, 2 computers and a Wifi router on the same circuit...

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob I have a few crazy stories I've been meaning to submit to TFTS for ages...

Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy Link em here when do you? :P

Burgi

16:07

@ThatBrazilianGuy its because the toy inside is not edible

Bob

@bwDraco eh, use 5ghz, or switch around channels on 2.4

That Brazilian Guy

@Bob Will do

Bob

many microwaves use a narrow enough band that there's often one or two wifi channels without too much noise

That Brazilian Guy

@CanadianLuke I could understand if it was because of really small pieces in kids' toys. But "non-food inside food"?

"We officially consider our population to be so stupid as to not being able of understanding what's edible and what's not" -- The US FDA.

Canadian Luke

Google kinder surprise illegal in usa

DavidPostill

16:11

@Burgi Did the police send them away the first time?

Burgi

the police have not been

> Customs and Border Protection not only confiscated the Kinder eggs, but also fined the family $1,200 [£787] per egg, or $12,000 [£7,870] total.

independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/features/…

@DavidPostill its really dodgy because we all park in that car park

Canadian Luke

Am I the only one who thinks this question about a phone battery is off topic?

That Brazilian Guy

@Burgi I... don't... I.... but.... but.... I.... SYSTEM ERROR

> While conducting research on this paper, I discovered that Mars actively lobbied the US government to have confections with interior toys banned any time a similar product comes on the market.

Hmmmmmmm...

DavidPostill

@Burgi I'm surprised. I presume you told them naked people are shooting up?

Hennes

3

Burgi

16:19

@DavidPostill yup

DavidPostill

@CanadianLuke Yes. Because it's not specifically about phones batteries.

I removed the phone reference as phones are technically off topic for Super User. This condition can affect any pouch LiPo or prismatic Li-ion battery; most thin-and-light laptops use pouch LiPo batteries and can be affected by the same issue, so this question can certainly extend to computer hardware. — bwDraco 2 days ago

bwDraco

@ThatBrazilianGuy Oy vey. Business is so cutthroat these days...

DavidPostill

@Burgi I wonder what more urgent business they have to attend to first ...

bwDraco

Well, in today's economy, spending is lower than ever before and so this is the only choice to stay in business.

The economy is a harsh mistress...

That Brazilian Guy

!! s/these days//

ChatBot John Cavil

16:22

@ThatBrazilianGuy @ThatBrazilianGuy Oy vey. Business is so cutthroat ... (source)

bwDraco

Well, it's the only way to survive.

Every last penny counts.

That Brazilian Guy

I like to imagine there are less brutal ways of doing business. Regulation, when done right, is good for the society.

bwDraco

That's the problem. Regulation is very hard to do correctly and is constantly subject to the pressure of lobbyists, with politicians under threat of losing big chunks of campaign money if they don't do as they say.

Hennes

Wow, this seems real:

Georgia: "We must protect women from perverts by excluding trans ppl from bathrooms." Also Georgia: https://twitter.com/Independent/status/756887348143685633

Tweeted by CanadiEnby on July 23, 2016 at 5:49 PM

bwDraco

There needs to be a better way to allow the common man to chip in as little as $5 to support the political goals the people support.

@Hennes Not in New York:

> Use the Bathroom Consistent With Who You Are

That Brazilian Guy

16:34

@Hennes But.... I.... What... I mean... but.... but... I... SYSTEM ERROR

This news really makes me want to punch someone. Hard.

Canadian Luke

@DavidPostill Alright

bwDraco

Giving the common man easy access to the campaign contribution system would even up the odds and give the people a fighting chance at beating the corporate lobbyists.

After all, we individuals are voting on paper only. Corporations vote with money. It's time to make the system fairer.

That Brazilian Guy

This game looks gorgeously beautiful and is 75% off on steam for the next 20min: store.steampowered.com/app/356050/?snr=1_620_4_1400_45_1 - Beyond Eyes

bwDraco

I know this may not be an ideal solution but we need to fight fire with fire until corporations realize that they cannot overpower the people.

In theory, the common person can make campaign contributions through the appropriate channels, but in practice, only the most ardant supporters actually do so.

$5 each from hundreds of thousands of people can turn the tide.

It seems people are contributing to corporate-run PACs instead. What about making choices more readily apparent to the folks already contributing?

Instead of contributing to your employer's PAC and supporting a cause you may not like, how about giving to the candidates you like?

Giving the people the freedom to contribute to the political campaigns they care about will enable the people to take power back from greedy corporations.

Multi-billion-dollar corporations shouldn't be the only ones playing the political money game.

bwDraco

17:04

prospect.org/article/employer-political-coercion-growing-threat

Yuck. Employers are given free rein to fire employees on political grounds.

That means an employer can compel its employees to contribute to a particular political cause.

Until the law is changed, it looks like a nontrivial subset of people have little in the way of political freedom and are little more than pawns in the political money game.

DavidPostill

17:22

@bwDraco That sucks big time. Enough to completely put me off ever wanting to work in the US.

cat

18:05

!!caat

ChatBot John Cavil

cat

@ThatBrazilianGuy Dammit too late

That Brazilian Guy

19:00

I also tried to buy a gift game pack from IHB, to gift it to a certain canine moderator, but they complain that I already bought one. Yeah, for myself!

> In most states, managers have the legal right to mandate worker attendance at a political rally for a favored candidate—and fire or punish workers who decline to participate.

=/

That would be an easily-won lawsuit here.

Mokubai

@ThatBrazilianGuy And that's in a country that apparently had to make "free speech" a law...

Can you turn up with a sign that says "X is a douchebag, I'm here because my manager is one too" and fulfil both free speech and the turn up at a rally thing?

DavidPostill

@Mokubai lol. You might get lynched!

@ThatBrazilianGuy And in the UK I hope ...

Mokubai

Granted it might not do your promotion prospects any good...

That Brazilian Guy

@Mokubai Yeah, and then you can be fired because of at-will employment.

@Mokubai Well, "free speech" means only you can't be prevented from saying what you want. It won't exempt you from consequences.

Mokubai

Wait what?

So you literally have no protection as a workforce?

It's just "I don't like you, don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out." ?

I'm pretty sure here there has to be a real reason to fire people

DavidPostill

19:10

And free speech is only free speech by the Governments definition. It is not completely free.

Freedom of speech does not include the right:

To incite actions that would harm others (e.g., “[S]hout[ing] ‘fire’ in a crowded theater.”).
Schenck v. United States, 249 U.S. 47 (1919).
To make or distribute obscene materials.
Roth v. United States, 354 U.S. 476 (1957).
To burn draft cards as an anti-war protest.
United States v. O’Brien, 391 U.S. 367 (1968).
To permit students to print articles in a school newspaper over the objections of the school administration.
Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier, 484 U.S. 260 (1988).

Mokubai

Like negligence or non-fulfilment of duties and stuff

The Tetris God

►

DavidPostill

@Mokubai "If they are employed “at will,” as most workers are, they can have their hours or wages changed or be fired without cause, as long as it is not for a narrowly defined set of legally protected reasons, such as religion, race, or gender."

The Supreme Court’s decision in the 2010 "Citizens United" case

Mokubai

Well stuff that for a game of soldiers.

DavidPostill

2 hours ago, by DavidPostill

@bwDraco That sucks big time. Enough to completely put me off ever wanting to work in the US.

Mokubai

Zero job security, forced to support Trump by your boss, and docked pay for not actually being at work while you do it. Sounds awesome.

That Brazilian Guy

19:15

@Mokubai From what I've heard, that's exactly how "at will" employment works.

Stuff's scary.

DavidPostill

Hmm. "At will" means employment without a contract. How is this possible? Don't companies in the US have employment contracts?

At-will employment

At-will employment is a legal presumption in all U.S. states (other than Montana), whereby either an employer or an employee may, with no adverse legal consequences, terminate the employment relationship for any legal or no reason. The at-will doctrine is not itself a form or component of contract, but rather is the default state deemed to exist prior to any contractual override. However, the presumption can be overridden by an employment contract, either explicit or, in several states, implicit. For examples, in workplaces with a trade union recognized for purposes of collective bargaining, and...

Mokubai

8 mins ago, by Mokubai

Well stuff that for a game of soldiers.

djsmiley2k

@DavidPostill it's what happens in a country where the companies rule.

Mokubai

America Incorporated

Ben N

It seems like a reasonable default to me, with the libertarian context that people and companies can work out whatever arrangements they like

djsmiley2k

19:23

cept companies can afford to not hire you

you can't afford to not be hired.

Ben N

Though obviously companies shouldn't completely own their workers; forcing them to support a political candidate is completely wild

djsmiley2k

It's not a level playing field

@BenN this would work if you had the option of easily going to another employer, i.e. enough jobs.

Ben N

Right, that's the trick

Fortunately in my area there are currently all kinds of jobs, though I don't know how other places are doing

djsmiley2k

yeah well from what I here, america isn't doing so great

on that, or any fronts.

other than maybe lack of terrorism attacks lately...

(comapred to say europe)

Ben N

Very very loosely related Old New Thing article: Is there an API for IntelliSense?

> Okay, wait, let me see if I understand this.
>
> Your customer signed a contract promising to deliver an IntelliSense feature, but they don't have any idea where to start, and they're asking Microsoft to help them either by providing an API, or helping them find somebody who has a ready-made solution.
>
> Apparently, this is what happens when people who grew up with StackOverflow get a job.

Guitar Shoe Dave

19:30

hehe

The Dramatic National Convention will be starting in 30 minutes

That Brazilian Guy

19:44

Ping @JourneymanGeek

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy You realise it is 3:45 AM in Singapore?

That Brazilian Guy

Oh.

Ben N

xkcd.com/now

DavidPostill

in Ask a Super User Moderator, yesterday, by DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek OK. Thanks for the background explanation of what was going on from your side. BTW what are your "normal" sleepy hours?

@ThatBrazilianGuy

@ThatBrazilianGuy Is it very urgent? @Mokubai is currently active here ...

Ben N

He just left :/

DavidPostill

19:48

I noticed :(

Ben N

Can non-mods help?

That Brazilian Guy

@DavidPostill Not urgent at all.

I just wanted to give him a birthday gift ;p

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy Ah. His birthday was yesterday (for him) ;)

That Brazilian Guy

@DavidPostill Turns out there's a "common online hours" or something like that on chat profiles

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy You might want to take a note of what he posted in that chat link I gave you above ...

That Brazilian Guy