Root Access

Canadian Luke

16:06

So, my blog is gone... All the other websites I had are gone... And I'm pissed. The flash drive is completely toast, after about 30 seconds

Ben N

Oh snap :/ Internet Archive?

Canadian Luke

That may get the output, but what about putting the entries back in to Wordpress?

Ben N

Oh, that's a different can of worms

What happened?

Canadian Luke

I'll see after it's at least booted into a new Debian environment if I can recover some data :-/

I used to boot the system from a flash drive... The flash drive died... It won't stay on

Journeyman Geek

@CanadianLuke there's a wordpress backup plugin...

too late now, but..

Ben N

16:09

Was the data on that flash drive, or was that just the boot medium?

Canadian Luke

That one wasn't covered by the backup... It was covered by a file copy to another hard drive, but I didn't do that backup for quite a while...

I think I'll just start fresh

Now, the shitty part - I had a 16GB partition on RAID 10 for swap... I tried to erase that and use it as / and set as bootable.... But you can't boot a RAID 10 with GRUB yet

So, I'm going to see if I can repartition without losing my data... And make that a 4-disk RAID 1

Ben N

Can you image the drive before doing partitioning stuff? Just it case something gets wrecked

Canadian Luke

I'm giving up on the flash drive for now. The RAID I have is 4x4TB drives... I'm not imaging that thing right now :-p

Ben N

That makes sense ;)

Canadian Luke

I need to get myself a NAS somewhere outside my house... Argh

That Brazilian Guy

16:18

@CanadianLuke You hosted your site(s) on a local server on your home?

Canadian Luke

Yea, except the ones I get paid to host... Those ones are in the cloud

I think I need to repartition my drives -.- It's not accepting the 16GB RAID 10 partition at the front for the root partition

So, long-ass backup is going to start, and I'm going to get some rest

That Brazilian Guy

Well, you should always backup.

Which reminds me, I have daily backups of the DB but not yet daily backups of the files.

djsmiley2k

and backup the backups

Ben N

Even better, test the backups occasionally

Also consider hardware RAID if you can get a hold of a machine that can do it

That Brazilian Guy

I think I'll implement a wp plugin that does incremental backups to amazon s3

I have less-than-zero experience with aws

Ben N

16:30

Unrelatedly, why are all hardware RAID configuration UIs insanely difficult to use?

That Brazilian Guy

@BenN Because devs don't do design or UX.

"Design is for sissies. UX is... what's UX"?

Canadian Luke

User Experience

So I can't mount my backup drive... It's detected, fdisk sees it fine... In the Installer environment, I type mount /dev/sdf1 /mnt/backup, and get mount: mounting /dev/sdf1 on /mnt/backup/ failed: Invalid argument. Thoughts?

Ben N

What FS?

djsmiley2k

@BenN because low usemetric decreases demand

Ben N

Try specifying the FS with the -t switch on mount

djsmiley2k

16:37

check dmesg @CanadianLuke

Canadian Luke

dmesg mentions something about FAT.... But it should be EXT4....

If I try mount -t fat /dev/... it then says No such device

djsmiley2k

something about fat isnt very descriptive...

Ben N

If the actual FS is ext4, you should use -t ext4 if I understand correctly

djsmiley2k

^^ this

Canadian Luke

FAT-fs (sdf1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!

djsmiley2k

16:41

mnt/backup exists right?

Canadian Luke

I tried with ext3/4 type, but it's giving the Invalid Arugment error

Yes

Ben N

Anything interesting in the logs after trying to specify the right FS?

djsmiley2k

check there isnt anything at /mnt/backup and check mount -v output

Canadian Luke

Nothing new in dmesg... It's still the same line, not moved. mount -v shows rootfs on /, none on /run, /proc and /sys, devtmpfs on /dev, devpts on /dev/pts, and /dev/md127p1 on /target (where I want to install Debian to). Nothing about /mnt/backup or /dev/sdg1

The installer has hung on screen one, likely because of that one partition getting transformed into root, and not being bootable

I'm going to restart, and try in Rescue Mode

djsmiley2k

sdg? it was sdf a min ago

Canadian Luke

16:45

*sdf

djsmiley2k

k

5 mins ago, by Canadian Luke

FAT-fs (sdf1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!

this worries me slightly

thats not failure

Ben N

Might it actually be FAT?

Canadian Luke

It better not be! I formatted it when I was still running Ubuntu

djsmiley2k

is it efi?

Canadian Luke

Nope

Wait...

It shouldn't be... One sec

djsmiley2k

16:47

so..... linux can write fat..

Ben N

Linux supports all the Windows filesystems IIRC (maybe except ReFS)

It doesn't care about NTFS security though

djsmiley2k

writing fat on a small removalable device makes sense as a default infact

fat32....

Canadian Luke

OK, new environment. I have the RAID mounted, I'm going to check the other two drives now

djsmiley2k

so it wasnt fat?

Canadian Luke

/dev/sdb has one partition, 3.7T

/dev/sda has one partition, FAT (the Linux Installer flash drive)

SAME GOD DAMN ERROR

oldmud0

16:51

Since my computer's power button wasn't working, I just used my phone to turn on my computer

Canadian Luke

The dmesg window looks like this:

Ben N

Can you detect the FS of the large partition?

oldmud0

FAT usually implies FAT16 right?

djsmiley2k

fat32 by default from mkfs

oldmud0

try exfat?

Bob

16:54

@CanadianLuke ddrescue first

Canadian Luke

FAT-fs (md127p2_: utf8 is not....
EXT4-fs (md127p2): couldn't moutn as ext3 due to feature incompatibilities
EXT4-fs (md127p2): couldn't mount as ext2 due to feature incompatibilities
EXT4-fs (md127p2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
sd 1:0:0:0 [sdb] 976754645 4096-byte logical blocks: (4.00 TB/3.63 TiB)
FAT-fs (sdb1): utf8 is nto a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive!

djsmiley2k

what the... a fat partition inside a ext2 duisk img?

errrrrrrrrr

what mount command did u run?

Canadian Luke

Remember, rescue mode

djsmiley2k

i dont see any error there

Canadian Luke

I only mounted my data partition to /mnt/raid. I can't see any other errors

Bob

16:56

always image the drive before playing with it

djsmiley2k

how?

i see 2 moun attempts

and listen 2 @BenN

and @bob

Hennes

hmm, weird.

djsmiley2k

is this a dying drive?

Canadian Luke

I just did. I created /mnt/raid and /mnt/backup. I mounted the RAID partition to /mnt/raid. I can't mount the other

SMART status shows it's OK... It better be

Hennes

utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems because it will have the advantage of being case sensitive ?

oldmud0

16:58

@Hennes no, we need to be backwards compatible with dinosaurs

djsmiley2k

the other being a different physical drive?

Hennes

That needs to die out.

Ben N

@Hennes I think the reasoning is that FAT is usually used on systems that are case-insensitive

Hennes

Even NTFS can be taught to behave normally

Ben N

I personally am for case insensitivity

Canadian Luke

16:59

I want to mount my backup drive, so I can take a full backup of the DATA, then I can repartition the drives

Eff off Clippy

oldmud0

there is somebody out there using a rescue flash drive to create a FAT partition on a floppy disk, to put it in their old packard bell DOS dinosaur or HP/UX or whatever to play elite

djsmiley2k

ok what dev is it right now?

Canadian Luke

/dev/sdb1

djsmiley2k

blkid might help

oldmud0

looks at danooct1

djsmiley2k

17:00

no

thats a partition

Canadian Luke

F.......

I just ran it into parted... PartEd tells me it's NTFS now, not type 83! WTF!?!?!

djsmiley2k

/dev/sdd: UUID="VhLSd6-HOrv-klfR-kqIO-EsAY-Hp3O-Q8VXvO" TYPE="LVM2_member"

a device

/dev/sda2: UUID="409420a1-d570-4065-ac1b-b7fbbdab483d" TYPE="swap" PARTLABEL="swap" PARTUUID="72a779f7-0242-4a2f-8138-100cb5bc412f"

oldmud0

rekt

djsmiley2k

a partition

run blkid

Ben N

Please image the drive before our half-blind advice permanently destroys your data

djsmiley2k

17:02

also this ^

but if ur really backing up to this disk, maybe a nuke is in order first anyway (badblocks etc)

Canadian Luke

I can't, I don't have another spare 4TB external drive kicking around

oldmud0

imaging the drive takes hours

Ben N

If it's mostly empty, you could probably compress the image as it's taken?

oldmud0

"take it to a professional who will charge you $70 an hour"

Ben N

Maybe? I've never actually imaged a drive in Linux

Canadian Luke

17:03

blkid shows it as ntfs.... WTF!?!

Ben N

(Ghost FTW)

oldmud0

I just use clonezilla

But I don't really ever image drives for small stuff

djsmiley2k

dd is slow no matter what, u could compress it after, or inline with pipes

@CanadianLuke and youre 110% ur looking at the right disk?

Hennes

Anything reading a while drive is going to be slow.

djsmiley2k

if so, its possible ntfs :/

Canadian Luke

17:04

blkid shows it as the Seagate, the only one on the system

I tried mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/backup and -t ntfs-3g, and both say No such device

djsmiley2k

can u paste the blkid line?

Canadian Luke

/dev/sdb1: LABEL="Seagate Backup Plus Drive" UUID="F2F2B8B6F2B88101" TYPE="ntfs"

djsmiley2k

wow that UUID is short, anyway

the kernel definately thinks it's ntfs

oldmud0

reinstall linux?

Ben N

That is the right length for an NTFS serial number

Canadian Luke

17:07

Rescue Environment. I know I need to reinstall Linux

djsmiley2k

fdisk -l

oldmud0

"freestyle rapping is applied Markov chains" lol

djsmiley2k

hands are steady, moms spagetti..

Canadian Luke

ID 83, Type Linux

djsmiley2k

... dafaq

something is very very wrong

dmesg | grep sdb

oldmud0

17:10

uhhhhh testdisk

definitely testdisk...

djsmiley2k

@CanadianLuke do you require the data on this disk btw?

just wondering, as you said your backing up to your data TO it.

@CanadianLuke also ls -lah /where/youre/trying/to/mount/to

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Actually there are. This is a "Pavilion of Penguins" in Prague.

zoopraha.cz/en/must-see/7666-pavilion-of-penguins

Upon entering this pavilion you will find yourself in the harsh world of the Chilean and Peruvian coasts – the home of the Humboldt’s penguin. Standing behind large glass panes, you can observe the way they live and move around both above and under the surface of the water– you can even watch them nesting in the winter, as we are one of the few European zoos to achieve regular success in breeding these penguins.

Canadian Luke

@djsmiley2k Just the usual, . and ..

Ben N

Can you mount the partition as ext3? There are some threads on the interwebs about ext3 being misrecognized as NTFS

djsmiley2k

700 on permissions?

not that it'd make much difference if you're root. which you should be

Ben N

17:15

cat /proc/filesystems to see if you have all the normal FS drivers?

djsmiley2k

@BenN Ha that was my next thought.

Ben N

Also try ls "/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/fs/"

5

Q: mounting mmcblk0p1 failed with Invalid argument

When I am running linux from sd card and try to mount sd card -no problem, works fine. But when I am running linux from flash memory I am unable to mount my SD card: # mount /dev/mmcblk0p1 /mnt/ mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /mnt/ failed: Invalid argument What could be the basic reason fo...

mount

Canadian Luke

@BenN vfat,btrfs,ext2,3,4, jfs xfs

djsmiley2k

....

so no support for ntfs

so if it IS ntfs, that's why it won't mount.

Ben N

Well, /proc/filesystems doesn't necessary list everything the kernel has, that's what the second command is for

djsmiley2k

17:17

I'd suggest something good like sysrescuecd

Canadian Luke

OK, I'll download that one and try... Argh

I do appreciate everyone's help, honestly

djsmiley2k

no worries

I'm just wondering wtf has happened to it to get in this state

oldmud0

no ntfs.... ouch

old parted magic used to be good

now the guy is charging $$$ for it

Canadian Luke

Really?

oldmud0

screw that, a distribution ought to be free

djsmiley2k

17:24

@CanadianLuke again, do you need to access the data on this disk?

oldmud0

yeah, hiren's boot cd (or was it ultimate boot cd?) carry the old Parted Magic, before the guy started charging money

Canadian Luke

I do, it will make the file copy faster

djsmiley2k

but.... if you're not sure of the quality of the files on this disk

you shouldn't be trusting them

oldmud0

He doesn't say what the money goes to, just says "bandwidth" so obviously he's using it as a footstool for personal gain

djsmiley2k

and concidering you don't even know what fs is on there...

@oldmud0 meh he can do what he likes

don't need the tool, it's by no way unique

Ben N

17:26

If he provides a good service, I think he deserves to get some compensation

Canadian Luke

7 more minutes... I'm going to get some breakfast, BRB

oldmud0

@djsmiley2k he's not sure because the distribution doesn't have ntfs-3g or dosfstools

djsmiley2k

@oldmud0 if you're dumping a backup on it, i'd hope you know exactly what fs is on it

:/

oldmud0

not really, you can do a block-level backup, don't even need to know what fs it is

djsmiley2k

'herp I dumped my backup out to /dev/sda123' - turns out that's a spool for a ascii printer in finance.

oldmud0

17:28

/dev/sd*** won't ever spool to a printer...

djsmiley2k

@oldmud0 but then we don't care what fs is there, it's gonna get nuked

@oldmud0 you wanna bet?

Ben N

@djsmiley2k ollydbg.de/Paperbak

I guarantee it's possible to make a /dev/ice spool to a printer, though I don't know how at the moment

djsmiley2k

@oldmud0 why do you think I can't just mknode /dev/sda123 ?

oldmud0

@djsmiley2k try it and call me back ok

please send me video of you dding your hard drive contents to an ascii printer in finance when you are done

Canadian Luke

Kids, let's not fight....

But I'd also like to see that

Ben N

17:33

On Windows, you could write a file system filter driver to do the job

I don't know Linux internals though

djsmiley2k

@oldmud0 :D

@BenN you'd have the node just pipe data into postscript and pass it directly to the printer

oldmud0

making windows drivers sucks

worst thing ever. just the whole ordeal of signing drivers is such a pain

Ben N

Better that than Windows constantly crashing because of someone's janky driver ;)

Windows is for everyone, not just super technical people, and it would be bad if Windows got the blame for someone else's poor kernel-mode programming

oldmud0

yeah, so instead people jury rig "stable" kernel mode drivers other people made to their own programs and stuff

case in point, my brother's "turcom" pen tablet

Ben N

I really learned to appreciate driver signing when I bought a cheapo serial port card and its driver caused my machine to BSOD whenever its monitors turned off

djsmiley2k

17:36

xD

oldmud0

yeah but what about for indie developers?

and devs making free kernel drivers?

Ben N

You can install the test certificate for development

oldmud0

they can't afford the costs for WHQL testing, so microsoft is technically controlling costs for kernel drivers

how am I supposed to install an open-source kernel driver?

you have to finance it.

Ben N

Sign it with the test root certificate and enable that cert for your machine

Canadian Luke

OK, booting SysResCD

djsmiley2k

17:38

does eFF not have a driver cert we can all use or something?

Ben N

That would kind of defeat the purpose of driver signing ;)

oldmud0

somehow somewhere, your driver has to become popular enough to get somebody with lots of money to sign your driver

and then you have to invoke that person every single time you push out an update

Canadian Luke

I swear, it's like I'm talking to my kids...

oldmud0

and then, you're forced to write in VS C/C++.

Which isn't something necessarily bad.

Bob

You can write in asm for all the difference it makes

djsmiley2k

17:41

@CanadianLuke o_O??

Canadian Luke

OK, SRCD recognizes the partition, still not sure the type

Ben N

And you're sure the backups have been working?

Canadian Luke

fuseblk whatever that is

A majority of the files are there. I'm going to rsync though

Good, both drives are mounted

Ben N

Yay!

djsmiley2k

errrr

fuseblk, is using fusedriver plus... funky stuff

Canadian Luke

17:44

Well, it's working, and it's backing up my data drive

So be funky, it's going! Lol

Ben N

Whatever works! \o/

djsmiley2k

hmmmmmmmm I'm not happy about it, but at least try to remember that @CanadianLuke :D

seems ubuntu does it this way by default, that's great, until they drop support for fuse because 'reasons' D:

Canadian Luke

Well, once I get everything up and running, that may change then.

What is FUSE, exactly?

Ben N

Filesystem in Userspace

Filesystem in Userspace (FUSE) is a software interface for Unix-like computer operating systems that lets non-privileged users create their own file systems without editing kernel code. This is achieved by running file system code in user space while the FUSE module provides only a "bridge" to the actual kernel interfaces. FUSE is available for Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD (as puffs), OpenSolaris, Minix 3, Android and OS X. FUSE is free software originally released under the terms of the GNU General Public License and the GNU Lesser General Public License. == History == The FUSE system...

I think it's like filter drivers that don't require root to install?

Canadian Luke

cool

djsmiley2k

17:51

yeah

userspace partition changing and fun stuff.

but, you have root

but it's ubuntu and it's like 'meh lets not do things properly, this'll work, lol'.

Canadian Luke

YES!!!!!!!! Scrolling through is THE BACKUP OF THE /etc AND /var AND /usr FOLDERS!!!!

I feel much better now!

Ben N

I'm so happy! :D

Canadian Luke

Everyone's 87th-favourite blog will be back with all the data!

oldmud0

@CanadianLuke wait what happen to your blog

Ben N

@oldmud0 That's what we were trying to recover

oldmud0

18:01

why did it die

a hard drive just died?

was that RAID 1?

this tim kaine guy sounds very well spoken

DavidPostill

I'm so going to explode if I see any more questions starting with "So I"

oldmud0

as if there was some sense in US politics

So I wanted to add network to my python game?

So how would I like have to like go about like doing something and so to do something like that?

Canadian Luke

@oldmud0 It was on a RAID 10 (which is OK), and a single Flash Drive... The flash drive crashed

Bob

@CanadianLuke sorry, it's only 94th now

oldmud0

@CanadianLuke why did you put data on a flash drive again?

any permanently mounted drive should be an internal drive

Ben N

18:05

@DavidPostill data.stackexchange.com/superuser/query/516383

oldmud0

USB drives are generally held to terrible standards.

Ben N

oldmud0

Enclosure could break, cable could break, power supply could break.

Bob

@oldmud0 eh, I have a bootloader on one on my primary server

But it's very rarely accessed and the internal drives are all in a zfs pool

So initrd and vmlinuz on flash drive :P

Canadian Luke

Honstly? Because I didn't want to have to repartition my drives when I'd upgrade. I know better now, so it's going to get done right

After it's up and running, if I have all the files I need, no harm done. If I'm missing files still, then I gotta figure out how to get them off the flash drive, or else start over

Oh yea... I guess I gotta rebuild Samba's AD structure too... Shit

I should setup my Pi as a secondary controller or something next time...

oldmud0

18:10

Should the 2x version of a Pi be called a Tau?

pub scrubs, fite me 1v1 gentoo linux

build2fight

Canadian Luke

While I'm waiting for the backup to finish, I'm going to play on another computer... I'll talk to you guys later

oldmud0

how would linux wars work

Canadian Luke

... And I see the backup folder from Jul22 :)

oldmud0

> build your own kernel, no automake or buildroot allowed, only 50 pkgs allowed, pit your kernel against your opponent

That Brazilian Guy

@CanadianLuke Yay! :D

Canadian Luke

18:18

:)

oldmud0

0

A: 0xc000007b error when launching Rising Thunder game

I found a method which has worked for me, thanks to an Reddit users to share this method to solve this 0xc000007b error in Windows 10 64 bit. Download the DLL files from here. Then place all DLL files to your C:\Windows\System32 directory Then restart your PC, you're done. or full, explanation ...

spam?

Canadian Luke

Finish up this game of South Park... I just entered the Kingdom of Canada

Bob

Spam makes me hungry

bwDraco

theregister.co.uk/2016/07/01/…

470 Gbit DDOS!

I fear the day when attackers launch terabit DDOS attacks...

Ben N

@oldmud0 That doesn't look like spam to me, but I definitely wouldn't put random DLLs from a third-party into my system folder

I think it would be easier and safer to reinstall the official VC++ redistributable

bwDraco

18:25

Incapsula was the company that provided the protection here.

incapsula.com/blog/…

djsmiley2k

@oldmud0 i use gentoo

bwDraco

@djsmiley2k Gentoo is way too much work for me. I've managed to complete a Gentoo base system installation in a Hyper-V environment but building from source pushed this laptop to its limits :\

(The VM was given access to all eight logical processors and had access to 8 GB of memory, IIRC. Client Hyper-V has full support for Haswell and its new instructions.)

djsmiley2k

ive had the same 'install' for about 10 years, through 3 different systems

bwDraco

Sure, Gentoo is incredibly malleable and a running Gentoo machine can fly through compute-intensive workloads thanks to CPU-specific optimizations not otherwise possible (ever wanted every app to use AVX instructions?) but it's too complicated for me to manage. My servers run openSUSE.

djsmiley2k

yah, fauir enuf

ive actually got 0 experince with suse

DavidPostill

18:39

@BenN Aaaargh!!!

Was AFK so you ducked too soon :)

Ben N

:p

DavidPostill

@oldmud0 Not spam. Just cr@p answer.

djsmiley2k

19:01

djsmiley2k plays Rocket League

►

whoops wrong room haha

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

19:24

is anyone a git expert? :(

Ben N

I'm not, but what do you need?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

I have a gitlab repo, and I commited something I cant share with my group members so I want to delete all the commits and source files and start fresh

(but preserve the issues I've created)

and I can't figure out how :/

Ben N

Is it already pushed?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

yeah it's on the remote

Ben N

Oh, that's kind of a problem

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

19:35

especially if I'm not running the open source version? haha

okay let me see if theres a way to make a new project and import the issues

Ben N

For GitHub, there's this: help.github.com/articles/remove-sensitive-data

I know zero about Gitlab though :(

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

thanks for your input though Ben :)

oldmud0

19:54

Apple: "iOS? Malware? IMPOSSIBLE!" mass censorship

given how powerful apple is, it could censor

it's scary to think that apple has enough money to literally pay anyone off to do anything

they could pay off your lawyers to give you a bad defense... pay off your family members to not encourage you...

creidhne

20:14

@DavidPostill Bad link in your comment at:

-1

Q: Running a jar inside another main jar application built using javafx

Below is my requirement. My application will have many modules. Each modules going to serve as separate jar. I am creating a main jar application which is going to hold each modules. Like a pluggable interface. Each modules will run inside the main application in a separate tabs. Each tabs repr...

java plugins

The link to superuser.com.com goes to a malware download.

DavidPostill

@creidhne Thanks. Will fix it.

Ariane

Hey hm. I just installed my processor. I've tightened the 4 cooler screws, but I'm still able to rotate the cooler. Should I be worried?

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

20:33

what cooler is it

check your cpu temperatures

with a program such as hwmonitor

Ariane

It's a 212 Evo

I haven't finished building the computer yet so I'll check that later

Psycogeek

@Ariane mine continues to be able to rotate like 2* works fine, once burned in and settled it might be better to quit trying to rotate it :-)

Ariane

I see

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

oh idk I thought mine felt loose too but not that loose, I tried rotating it recently and it wouldnt budge

Psycogeek

they just do that, and until the goop turns to dust or brick , it will stay that way, like with AS5 under there it stays greasy and thermal like :-)

Ariane

20:42

Ugh, I'm missing two motherboard screws.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

who cares :)

Ariane

Dunno, maybe gravity does

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

just get come crazy glue

yeah maybe when you're shoving in ram sticks

or if it's a tower not a desktop

Psycogeek

with the 210 or 212 you can increase the pressure with some carefull bending, they are very adaptable cheazy but usable sinks.

Ariane

There are many problems with that statement @CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

20:44

cheazy?! are you calling my insanely powerful cooler a cheap?

yes, crazy glue is slightly conductive

Psycogeek

yea piece of crap too, but wonderfull piece of crap, it is like they got the right ammount of fluid in them.

Ariane

It's also non removable

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

then how did the boy who stuck his fingers and eyelids together with it open his fingers and eyelids?

Ariane

Magic

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

make sure you put those screws evenly

whats more important, making sure the middle of the board is being pulled or the edges

magic isnt real. ghosts are.

Ariane

20:48

I stole one from the outside graphics card holder thing. Now I'm only missing one. I've got all corners covered. Should work for now.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

great now you're going to wreck your pci express slot

Ariane

The heck. The motherboard comes with an SLI thingie but no screws.

CausingUnderflowsEverywhere

hey language!

please remove that profane word

thanks.

Ariane

Sorry

Why didn't I keep this cooler's manual? I don't even know which way to put the fan

Ugh I forgot the IO panel. I had forgotten how much of a pain it is to build a PC

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