Root Access

Journeyman Geek

00:02

@JonasCz quite a few people have done it ._.

and netbook motherboards are usually a single board connecting to the netbook over a cable. Your problems are carpentry not computing ;)

youtube is now suggesting a bunch of brazillian japanese channels ._.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Better than an endless stream of Minecraft videos because you clicked on one, five years ago.

YT links are like a minefield.

Journeyman Geek

hm

brazillian cooking videos too

Ok

GO HOME YOUTUBE, YOU ARE DRINK

Bob

00:17

If YouTube is the drink, does that make you the drunk one? :P

Journeyman Geek

No, but it makes me wish I was alcoholic ;p

Psycogeek

it is easier to become a cat holic

Journeyman Geek

ah sorted

That Brazilian Guy

00:35

@JourneymanGeek I once talked about tech for 5min with an openly gay dude. Facedumb kept suggesting me to add friends a lot of guys in shirtless abs.

Journeyman Geek

ah. That's not happened to me. Yet.

Amazon does think I read shitty romance novels tho

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek thank me after you watch the video.

There's a part in there where I wrote "bla bla bla click subscribe bla bla". With literal blah blahs

Journeyman Geek

ahh

That Brazilian Guy

Also the last translated phrase is ~~an easter egg~~ ~~a complete fabrication~~ ~~poetic licence~~ an unfunny joke.

Journeyman Geek

I need to figure out how to activate that then ;p

lol

That Brazilian Guy

00:39

@JourneymanGeek Activate what where how what?

Journeyman Geek

"diy" 'subs?

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek What you don't know how to produce .srt s?

Journeyman Geek

Nope, or how to load them on youtube

That Brazilian Guy

IIRC you can only load them on youtube on videos you published yourself.

Journeyman Geek

ah

That Brazilian Guy

00:41

To create them you need something like gnome-subtitles or similar

Journeyman Geek

yeah I read your subs and used that to make my instructions better ;p

ah

That Brazilian Guy

tl;dr: download the video and use a srt-capable player locally

^
|

Journeyman Geek

hmm. Replacing all the cat commands with dogs...

except catshaman.

cause catshaman is cool

!!catdrop

ChatBot John Cavil

That Brazilian Guy

!!catshaman

ChatBot John Cavil

00:46

Journeyman Geek

0_0

That Brazilian Guy

!!ping

ChatBot John Cavil

@ThatBrazilianGuy pong

Journeyman Geek

ahh

cavil was a little slow on that

Journeyman Geek

01:21

Seminal Xerox Alto arrives for restoration

►

pretty. Also, them coloured chip sockets

bwDraco

01:59

welp. Broke my compact camera battery (will not communicate with camera, protection failed short so battery allows unbounded output current :/). A replacement has been ordered.

How do I safely discharge the battery and prepare it for disposal?

(Battery has just under 4V on it so it's nowhere near discharged.)

I'm going to call Nikon. This is not okay.

A battery's protection circuit cannot be allowed to fail in such an unsafe manner.

That Brazilian Guy

02:14

Rahul2001

02:29

Morning!

Psycogeek

@bwDraco that does not make a lot of sence. the protection curcuit keeps shorts from happening indeed, but given that it is still showing voltage, or that the protection is locked closed, the battery should still provide "voltage" to the unit, and the ammount of current would be determined by the draw from the unit.

To discharge it for disposal you would toss a resister on it, or just shoot it through, it will discharge fast enough :-)

If it is a battery that did a lot of communications to the camera, that is a failed way to make a battery :-) but it could just be the data connection is not being made from the device to the battery pack.

Bob

@Psycogeek I've heard a bucket of salt water is a good way to discharge them :P

Just do it somewhere away from flammables and don't stand next to it, to be safe

Psycogeek

start with a reset, and hope. Pull the battery, and any backup battery that exists, wait till the internal capacitors discharge fully, then clean the battery connections, and stuff it back in for a cold boot .

@Bob works for me, while lithium metals react in water, it is rather booooorrrring to even break one open and put it in water.

Bob

@Psycogeek lithium metals react in air too

Psycogeek

I just leave them outside on the gravel, till they are surely dead.

Bob

02:38

in practice, if your case is damaged to the point that water ingress is likely then it'd probably be on fire already :P

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Bob

salt water bath => medium resistance discharging with a lot of heat capacity for cooling (in theory)

I normally just chuck em in the mobile phone recycling bins (they take batteries too)

Journeyman Geek

03:09

0_0

@Bob that sounds dangerous

and I've never heard of discharging batteries pre disposal

Psycogeek

it's soes your trash can doesnt burst into flames :-)

catch the house on fire at 2am, and die of smoke inhalation, and all that other fun stuff.

Bob

03:21

@JourneymanGeek you're generally not supposed to throw away li-ion batteries at all

also, garbage trucks have compactors... compactors crush things... yea.

@JourneymanGeek Still, I'm not actively recommending it. Just something I've heard here and there :P

bwDraco

@Bob We hold them for recycling.

Bob

45 mins ago, by Bob

I normally just chuck em in the mobile phone recycling bins (they take batteries too)

bwDraco

The standard procedure is to tape up the terminals to prevent short-circuit and drop the batteries off to a recycling point.

Journeyman Geek

that makes sense

HackToHell

03:38

ola ola ola

looks like my internet outage is bigger than anticipated

sigh

Journeyman Geek

The mola, mola mola.

@HackToHell what internet outage?

Has civilisation collapsed with men and women outside their homes, phones in the air, groaning ~~brains~~ whaaaatsaaaappppp faaaacceeeeboooolkkkk yet?

HackToHell

Unfortunately it's just one ISP

Some idiot dug up the road and along with it, a cable that feeds half of my city,

Journeyman Geek

ah

HackToHell

And pairing opticial fibre cables is a bitch apparently

and they don't work on sundays .-.

Psycogeek

@HackToHell noooo, because it would be smart to work on roads sundays when the roads are less used. we wouldnt want anyone to be smart, it ruins the whole ambiance we are working towards

HackToHell

03:44

Yes, working on it on a working day makes perfect sense of course.

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell it is

Rahul2001

04:11

Man... MUNs are weird...

Bob

04:34

@JourneymanGeek ozbargain.com.au/node/254833 damn that went fast :P

Journeyman Geek

damn

@Bob what I consider the best great reasonably priced monitor, at nearly half price... yeah, makes sense ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Yea... if I saw that a bit earlier it would've been very tempting

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I'm internally debating ordering a one plus three from the US one plus store

Bob

05:04

@JourneymanGeek do they ship internationally?

bwDraco

05:23

Edity

O_O

bwDraco

PowerColor teases upcoming Devil card. If history is any indication, this will likely be a dual-GPU (Devil 13) card with a pair of RX 480s on it.

Edity

AGH the spoilers!

Nvidia Cards can do this:

RED SCREEN OF GRAPHICS
\

Journeyman Geek

@Bob nope, I'll use CGW

Rahul2001

Man, @ChatBotJohnCavil really needs a cowsay feature...

Edity

05:34

I know

Lets make it chat like a human

Rahul2001

!!do you know how to speak like a cow?

allquixotic

ChatBot John Cavil

@Rahul2001 Certainly

allquixotic

@Bob I'm cranking -_-

ChatBot John Cavil

@Rahul2001 Nope

Edity

05:35

:O ubuntu mate

Michael Frank

@bob @bwDraco @JourneymanGeek tek-bull.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/…

Journeyman Geek

@Edity I donno, cavil sometimes seems to hold a decent conversation sometimes.

Edity

Unless you abuse him

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_toxicity

@Edity you're getting the cold shoulder, clearly

Edity

yep

@JourneymanGeek for your refrence, !!ban is banning people and !!unban is unban.

Bob

05:41

@allquixotic you're what? o.O

Journeyman Geek

@Edity I do think I'm fine with the status quo.

Edity

ok :D

allquixotic

@Bob working on the dedi

stuck on libvirtd hang atm -_-

Bob

ah

:S

@allquixotic You running virt-manager inside the server?

I just did virsh :\

allquixotic

@Bob yep!

Michael Frank

05:44

@JourneymanGeek Doesn't seem that bad. ;p

allquixotic

@Bob OH - hey - did you know that recent libvirtd now supports sparse zvols?

Bob

@allquixotic what does support mean? I've been using sparse zvols this whole time

allquixotic

I have a 200 GB "capacity" zvol (as the libvirtd backend for storage) with a starting allocation size of 4 GB that will grow over time

Bob

do you mean it clears out zeroed bytes?

wouldn't that depend on the guest OS doing the same?

allquixotic

@Bob the pool-define / pool-create virsh commands and the equivalent APIs support actually creating ZFS zvols that are sparse as of like April 17 2016

Bob

05:46

@allquixotic remind me to send you a copy of my VM creation process sometime

literally the first step is to create a sparse zvol :P

@allquixotic oh, creating...

allquixotic

you don't have to create a sparse zvol with this patch

Bob

I create them manually, load an image into them, and run it via libvirt

libguestfs-tools for that

allquixotic

I need to install Windows Server, that's the problem

Bob

what part is hanging?

allquixotic

creating the domain I guess

Bob

05:48

o.O

that's... weird.

allquixotic

Jun 27 05:24:56 kobol libvirtd[24685]: internal error: failed to get number of host interfaces: unspecified error - errors in loading some config files

Bob

is it running native or within another VM/container?

allquixotic

libvirtd? on bare metal Ubuntu 16.04, not in a VM or container

Bob

that really sounds like something that should 'just work'

@allquixotic installed from repo?

Edity

Windows server 2015

allquixotic

05:51

@Bob actually using the latest point release of libvirtd from a PPA

Bob

@allquixotic bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740114?

2014 though

> Since this didn't come up again I assume it's resolved. Please reopen if
not.

@allquixotic Does ncftool list work? :P

allquixotic

@Bob it would be hilarious if that fixes it

Bob

ouch, could be a config just about anywhere: bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=8278

> I have this line in /etc/modprobe.d/bonding.conf
‘alias bond1 bonding max_bonds=3'
With this line when i do ‘virsh iface-list --all' I get an error:

yay generic errors

allquixotic

iface-list --all works, but I don't know if that's what was hanging it to begin with

guess all I can do is try to create it again

Bob

:\

Edity

06:01

(Lol)

Journeyman Geek

@Edity a good idea would be to assume people know what they are doing here. Mostly

HackToHell

erm

Journeyman Geek

Why would he want to run a beta OS on a VM?

Edity

ok

HackToHell

Does anyone know how to write good unit tests? :D

and helo o pencil

Am I allowed to spoil GoT here?

Edity

06:03

pencil

hai

microsoft.com/en-us/server-cloud/products/…

HackToHell

@allquixotic but they kinda had a challenge and all

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell I'm not watching it. I however will be the one who might have to inform your next of kin....

HackToHell

besides nobody is using it for secret stuff

@JourneymanGeek hehe

So unit tests means I pass along the edge cases

To the said function/action

Hm

Edity

I want to play "Escape from XP"

OH CLIPPY

I FOUND A EASTER EGG

O holy easter egg

I want to play "Escape from XP"

(nope)\

HackToHell

Why am I doing this to me

k

Edity

06:15

lol

Journeyman Geek

06:30

@HackToHell cause you like pain, and were into beastiality, necrophila and sadism, until you realised you were beating a dead horse?

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek we are going on a list

Journeyman Geek

everyone's on a list.

Rahul2001

Random people taking selfies in the middle of conferences :/

I think I've gone mad

Journeyman Geek

gone?

HackToHell

Which conference @Rahul2001 ?

Journeyman Geek

06:53

engadget.com/2016/06/26/india-4-dollar-smartphone-ships ._.

Psycogeek

tomorrow? the AMD RX480 is "launched"

Rahul2001

@HackToHell Model United Nations

@JourneymanGeek ?

HackToHell

@Psycogeek don't we have all the leaked benchmarks

@Rahul2001 ah

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek and they will make thier money back by opening the "freedom store" because none of the previous software is compatable :-)

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek it obviously sucks... it could be better, but they don't tune the hardware properly

Unknown123

06:56

is it legal to hex-edit binary of gplv2 software without publicizing it?

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 zat pricepoint is crazy

Psycogeek

@HackToHell yes there are some benches that look real enough. enough to know that the 1070 walks all over it.

Journeyman Geek

@Unknown123 Might I point you at law.stackexchange?

HackToHell

@Psycogeek for that price, it's a killer

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell question is what's it going to kill?

HackToHell

06:58

Let's put on tin foil hats

Journeyman Geek

Its cheaper than a dumbphone, and they've got a loss leader with no profit centre. They're selling razer handles, with fixed blades.

HackToHell

We must bust the case

Journeyman Geek

cause I'd totally buy one at that price, just for the lolz.

HackToHell

I don't get how sheer volume -> profit

If they make a loss for every phone they sell

Psycogeek

@HackToHell i mostly want to know for "normal" gaming how it does on power consumption. But then i am reading how there are games out i am playing already that desire more than 4 gig of memory already.

Journeyman Geek

06:59

@HackToHell high volume would mean fixed costs are spread out

but this is so low they can't even match fixed cost

HackToHell

Yeah, there's only so much you can go low

Psycogeek

lets see how high AMD can stack RAM :-)

HackToHell

Hell if you scraped it for metals, you might turn a profit

Journeyman Geek

yup

cheap has a market

but india has a bunch of 'cheapest in the world' 'shoddy' and no one has ever seen one

wasn't there a cheap tablet promised?

HackToHell

yeah

I preordrerd

shit came too late

and the price also increased

Journeyman Geek

07:02

ahh, to?

and shouldn't they rename it then? ;p

Bob

@Unknown123 you're never required to publish GPL software. However, if you give someone else the software, you must also include the source - and that includes the modifications made (which Stallman says should be embedded in a script that performs the modifications...)

If you just use the software yourself, you don't need to do any of this.

Non-lawyer's interpretation.

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek These are all started by university students to get government scholarships, then abandoned after they pass out

Journeyman Geek

Aakash (tablet)

Aakash a.k.a. Ubislate 7+, is an Android-based tablet computer promoted by the Government of India as part of an initiative to link 25,000 colleges and 400 universities in an e-learning program. It is produced by the British-Canadian company DataWind. It is manufactured by the India-based company Quad, at a new production centre in Hyderabad, with a planned trial run of 100,000 units. The tablet was officially launched as the Aakash in New Delhi on 5 October 2011. The Indian Ministry of Human Resource Development announced an upgraded second-generation model called Aakash 2 in April 2012. The Aakash...

Rahul2001

Yeah, I bought a ubislate for Robotics... it sucks

Bob

@JourneymanGeek there was some speculation that they're planning to sell cheap-ish TVs later and are using this as alternative marketing - with fixed volumes so it fits within budget

not the craziest thing I've heard

Rahul2001

07:06

@JourneymanGeek No play store

Some stupid alternative

Journeyman Geek

@Rahul2001 see "cheap/shoddy"

@Bob that might make sense

Bob

> 4-inch 960 x 540

...that's better than some of the phones I have here

Rahul2001

What should I name my remote application launching utility?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Heck, if that cheap Firefox OS phone had those specs, it might've actually succeeded O_O

Intex Cloud FX

> The phone comes with a 3.50-inch touchscreen display with a resolution of 320 pixels by 480 pixels

The Intex Cloud FX is powered by 1GHz Spreadtrum SC6821 processor and it comes with 128MB of RAM. The phone packs 46MB of internal storage that can be expanded up to 4GB via a microSD card. As far as the cameras are concerned, the Intex Cloud FX packs a 2-megapixel primary camera on the rear.

> 46 MB of internal storage

wut.

And it was priced at $35...

Wally

I tried installing a few 3d vision game drivers and now all games are showing in Red, Blue.

I don't know what app or driver is doing that

I need stereoscope display.

Journeyman Geek

07:16

46mb?

lol

I think you have anaglyphic cd turned on

Wally

I'll check in Nvidia control panel

There seems to be no analygryphic in NVIDIA. I'll google

Journeyman Geek

hm. There used to be before

now, seems not. Odd

Unknown123

@JourneymanGeek @Bob Thank you very much for your answers

Psycogeek

"Eventually I found that disabling the 3D anaglyph function in the Nvidia control center fixed the problem, something i've not had to mess with previously. No other game or program was affected, and I didn't do anything except update drivers. I wish I had more to say, but there it is, hope it helps someone."

(Stereoscopic mode )

Wally

@Psycogeek All I see is Sterecope settings. No analygraphic

Psycogeek

07:28

i donno what about in the openGL settings?

Wally

Turning off Stereoscopic seems to work. Nvidia 3d driver doesn't seem to support SBS.

I checked on one game.

Psycogeek

looks like you can profile the game/program itself, and set the stereoscopic for only when that program is running. google.com/… i was trying to use a image search like this to find where they all are. I didnt realise that the nvidia control center has more buttons and switches than the amd.

Journeyman Geek

ahh

my guess is it checks for a stereo monitor and/or glasses and switches to anaglyphic otherwise

annoyingly I can't check cause nvidia control panel crashed

Bob

@JourneymanGeek that's ridiculously low

as in, I had more in a flash drive in 2005

as in, my watch probably has more

heck, my mouse might have more

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I'm sure tomtom's ~~phone~~ toaster has more

Bob

07:39

though to be fair consumer routers often have less somehow

ah, no, my watch has 4 MB :P

Pebble Time has 16 though

Journeyman Geek

>_>

Bob

and plenty of smartwatches are up to 4 GB iirc

Journeyman Geek

I don't wear a watch.

yup

Bob

@JourneymanGeek heh, I've always worn one, and it's been a Pebble for the last half year

used to be an old analogue one

the Pebble is bulky, but great battery life and I find the phone unlock and the ability to quickly read notifications extremely useful

Journeyman Geek

I nearly got the razer nabu watch ._.

(decent battery life, notifications....)

kinda failed the 3 month test ;p

Bob

07:45

huh, my watch actually has 8 MB... it's the new version

Burgi

morning

Bob

@JourneymanGeek that's more a band than a watch :P

but 6 days is good

oh they have a watch version

o.O 12 month battery life

and 7 day lipo

weird

and pricey O_O

Burgi

ok so.... this second screen has crazy colours

Journeyman Geek

Yeah

Michael Frank

...

that moment you accidentally double click while shift-clicking a bunch of folders.

2

Journeyman Geek

07:49

@Bob eh, nicer digital watch price.

also, zat screen.

but yeah, the price/utility made no sense to me.

cpx

So today I learned about Linux and I am going to install my first Linux OS on a VirtualBox. I think I will go with Fedora.

Journeyman Geek

@cpx I have a bias, but I prefer the KDE remix of it over the default gnome.

and there's a few things different (dnf over yum for package management)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek wait apt? fedora?

thought it was yum

Journeyman Geek

its dnf now

my bad

cpx

08:09

@JourneymanGeek Ah, from the screenshots I am seeing that KDE looks more like Windows.

Journeyman Geek

@cpx I have a deep seated hatred of gnome s

cpx

I am very new to these GNOME/KDE terms but I think coming from Windows I'd prefer KDE as well.

Journeyman Geek

and fedora has a 'better' kde respin at the moment.

IMO

Rahul2001

08:24

1 hour ago, by Rahul2001

What should I name my remote application launching utility?

LOL, half the star wall is filled with my messages...

Journeyman Geek

first you complained about not being on the starwall. Then you complained about being on it

KIDS THESE DAYS!

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 RAHUL: Remote Application Handy Utility Launcher

Rahul2001

09:01

@DavidPostill xD

@JourneymanGeek I'm not complaining, it was merely an observation

Bob

@Rahul2001 look on the bright side, it's not about your sudden human-toilet transformation. Or a chmod disaster.

4

Rahul2001

Lol

qwertyuiop

09:19

@Bob It wasn't a disa... wait what? Human-toilet transformation what?!

Journeyman Geek

;p

toilet bowl more precisely

qwertyuiop

Some human transformed into a toilet bowl? What?

Journeyman Geek

Jan 13 '14 at 10:41, by Bob

why am I a toilet

Oct 27 '15 at 4:23, by qasdfdsaq

@Bob Why were you a toilet?

qwertyuiop

I don't see a bowl mentioned

Did he ever explain?

Ah yes he did

!!caat

ChatBot John Cavil

HackToHell

09:38

haha

Rahul2001

Hm... this app is going to be pretty awesome

HackToHell

09:53

@Rahul2001 whcih one

Rahul2001

@HackToHell the remote control one...

HackToHell

uhm

the app huh

no idea .-.

Rahul2001

10:20

@HackToHell a simple command line utility I'm building. Let's you remotely run apps and commands on a PC

HackToHell

@Rahul2001 ah cool link ?

Rahul2001

@HackToHell still working on it... maybe in a few hours?

HackToHell

cool

Bob

10:47

3

Q: Accidentally knocked a capacitor off a laptop motherboard seemingly related to USB

I accidentally knocked off a capacitor from my laptop motherboard (Lenovo Thinkpad S540, VIUS6 LA-A171P board). According to the circuit diagram, this capacitor (C2434) was something to do with the USB 3.0 circuit (perhaps the VBUS). See the pics attached. The C2434 capacitor is toward the top-ri...

@JourneymanGeek ^

HOW?!

should I be worried? If you find yourself in a position where you random knock components off of the motherboard of your laptop, yeah, you should - in general - be worried. :) — pipe 8 hours ago

That Brazilian Guy

11:00

@cpx If you are coming from Windows, try Mint with Cinnamon

Journeyman Geek

11:13

@Bob er... lots of violence

cpx

11:36

Such flavors.

djsmiley2k

amen.

Journeyman Geek

surface mount caps need... a certain degree of talent to 'accidentally' knock off

especially if its a single cap

Bob

@JourneymanGeek lol

screwdriver-related talent? :P

Journeyman Geek

hmm

Actually I was thinking a flathead

heavens knows why you need one

Bob

@JourneymanGeek pretty much why I moved on to plastic spudgers

Journeyman Geek

11:54

large crosshead eyeglass screwdrivers would get you into a thinkpad

and there's precious little that needs you to open up a thinkpad totally unless they mucked with the old design of having little hatches for everything

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