Root Access

Burgi

11:02

@JourneymanGeek i'll be honest i thought that was your dogginess coming through

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi heh. Its a reference to what Madara Uchiha was talking about. And the usual trick of being amusing ;p

Burgi

i think i have read that story before

Journeyman Geek

there's also a short video version

Burgi

i thijnk it was in a collected sci-fi anthology

Rahul Basu

11:18

Windows 10 for $20?

►

Burgi

is he using OEM licenses?

Journeyman Geek

if it sounds too good to be true....

Rahul Basu

@JourneymanGeek watch it...

Burgi

can you summarise it, i am in work

Rahul Basu

@Burgi Yep, but apparently you can buy retail

@Burgi go to kinguin.net, buy it, use it

Journeyman Geek

11:22

@RahulBasu chances are its a OEM key for some wierd chinese OEM

Rahul Basu

I think it is genuine

@JourneymanGeek fair enough...

Journeyman Geek

granted, the retail keys are rediculously cheap too

Michael Frank

It says OEM key on the website the video shows.

Kinguin even offer a key protection service for an extra $1...

Burgi

SCAMMITY SCAM SCAM OF SCAMMINGTON

4

Rahul Basu

The Game Boy, a hardware autopsy - Part 1: the CPU [PART 2 OUT NOW!]

►

Journeyman Geek

11:30

@Burgi heh, I consider it "how much risk do I want to take to save a few bucks"

Bob

@allquixotic Just got around to watching that PQ17 docu.

@RahulBasu Eh... this guy is rather naive.

OEM keys aren't just if you build a machine yourself.

Rahul Basu

@Bob which guy?

Bob

It needs to be built for someone else.

Rahul Basu

oh...

Bob

May 16 at 14:00, by Bob

What I'm getting from that is if I sell it to someone else, I can use the OEM licence on it.

I'm not a lawyer... but I can read, and EULAs (while wordy) aren't that hard to read, usually.

Rahul Basu

11:38

wait... you seriously read EULAs?

Bob

It's actually rather depressing to know how many people skip right past. Probably largely the same people who'll click Ok on every error message without reading. Then complain about something not working.

I made it a policy to at least skim them after noticing some of them 'give permission' to install adware.

Good way to tell if there's adware bundled and cancel the install.

Though, that was back in... '07? These days they use different tactics.

Oh god it's been almost a decade.

Rahul Basu

I'll follow your lead and skim through them :D

Bob

@RahulBasu Usually, there's just a lot of boilerplate that's easily to skip right past.

And they're usually separated into distinct clauses that you can quickly scan the headings of.

NetworkKingPin

Skimming through them and reading the small print is good. Sometimes ive even seen trick questions.

Rahul Basu

I (almost) never end up with adware

@NetworkKingPin I have too

Bob

11:41

@RahulBasu Full blown adware is near nonexistent these days.

Rahul Basu

hm...

Bob

Unless you count bundled software.

...and I do.

All those bundled toolbars and crap? Adware.

Rahul Basu

;)

Bob

Though these days they usually hide a sneaky checkbox somewhere.

Journeyman Geek

java cough java

Rahul Basu

11:42

@bob I love finding those :D

Bob

Back to OEM keys - again, I wonder if I can satisfy the requirements by building a computer for, say, my brother :P

Rahul Basu

@Bob is it a bad thing that I don't create 100-page long EULAs for my apps, because I personally hate them?

Bob

And how far you could stretch 'sold'.

Journeyman Geek

@RahulBasu typically no

Bob

@RahulBasu Depends what licence you distribute them under.

Rahul Basu

11:43

@Bob exactly what I was thinking...

@Bob Usually MIT

Bob

Open source licences are also EULAs, in a sense.

The EULA doesn't restrict users.

It gives them permission to use the software, except in certain circumstances.

Without a licence agreement of some form (verbal or otherwise) technically they're not allowed to use the software at all...

Though I suspect the act of intentionally giving it to them also gives them implied permission.

Wouldn't fly past the legal department of any major corp, but most individuals wouldn't really care and would just use it.

Rahul Basu

@Bob So my EULA should be "Use it anyway you want, as long as you limit yourself to whatever is written in the license"?

Bob

@RahulBasu No... the licence itself serves as your "EULA".

For most open-source programs without installers, it's just included somewhere (LICENSE.TXT, or embedded in the program, etc.).

Rahul Basu

So, I can just leave it all to MIT?

Bob

If you grabbed, say, GIMP - you'd get the GPL or something in the installer.

Rahul Basu

11:48

@Bob I include it too...

Bob

@RahulBasu Assuming those are the terms you wish to distribute under.

Burgi

@RahulBasu what if you want to make money from your software?

Rahul Basu

@Burgi I don't ;)

Bob

@RahulBasu choosealicense.com

Rahul Basu

Also, can't I re-license it?

Journeyman Geek

11:50

sure

Rahul Basu

@Bob I choose MIT ;)

Bob

choosealicense.com/no-license

> You’ll have to check with your own legal counsel regarding your particular project, but generally speaking, the absence of a license means that default copyright laws apply. This means that you retain all rights to your source code and that nobody else may reproduce, distribute, or create derivative works from your work.

Of course it depends on the country.

Burgi

@RahulBasu you say that now....

Bob

> If you find software that doesn’t have a license, that generally means you have no permission from the creators of the software to use, modify, or share the software.

Rahul Basu

Which is a problem I face often

I find code on forums which I want to incorporate in my apps, but there isn't any license with it :(

Bob

11:52

@RahulBasu You still have full permission to do anything you want with your copy of the code, including distributing it under a different licence.

Rahul Basu

:D

Bob

What you generally can't do is retract a licence already given, unless the licence itself has provisions for doing so.

(technically, that's the difference between a perpetual and non-perpetual licence, but afaik they're usually assumed perpetual)

Rahul Basu

So, I can't switch to BSD in the future?

Bob

@RahulBasu You can distribute another copy under BSD.

You can stop distributing your future code under MIT.

You can't take back what you've already distributed under MIT.

Rahul Basu

Ah...

Bob

11:54

(but remember I'm not a lawyer and none of this is necessarily legally correct)

Burgi

what about when you are a poor starving student or graduate without a job?

Bob

@RahulBasu Another thing to keep in mind - if other people have made contributions to your code, you need permission from each of them to re-licence it.

See CLAs

Contributor License Agreement

A Contributor License Agreement (CLA) defines the terms under which intellectual property has been contributed to a company/project, typically software under an open source license. Creative Commons alumna Catharina Maracke released the next generation legal and technical project, Contributor Agreements which provides important contributions to international legal technical aspects of CLAs and lessons learned from previous CLA projects. == Rationale == Contributor Licence Agreements (CLAs) can be used to enable vendors to easily pursue legal resolution in the case of copyright disputes, o...

Rahul Basu

@Burgi I'll code some better stuff?

Bob

@RahulBasu Because they own copyright to the bits they contributed. But they can give you (perpetual) permission to distribute under other licences, etc, via a CLA.

Burgi

and give it away for free?

Bob

11:56

Other thing to keep in mind is that much of this hasn't actually been tested in court, so there's little hard legal precedent.

DavidPostill

:30040653 Dang, I was just about to star that ;)

Burgi

goes red the pretty girl in the office

DavidPostill

Were you typing in the wrong window?

Burgi

no i was thinking out loud

DavidPostill

lol

Burgi

11:58

then i realised she might look over my shoulder

DavidPostill

even more lol

sounds like you want to look over her shoulder!

Psycogeek

@DavidPostill finnaly got boot, to test a "Scancode" that "changes the capslock into a shift key" and that is exactally what it does, the caps lock is now just a shift key and functions of caps lock itself do not exist at all

up to and including the whole board being shifted

DavidPostill

@Psycogeek Congrats. You can write a self answered question ;)

Burgi

@DavidPostill kinda

Psycogeek

given the option the other method at least there is some function of the caps lock existing still , which is better.

Bob

12:07

> Wrong email

mate, this is a registration form

I'll decide if my email is right or wrong, tyvm

Burgi

arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/05/…

HackToHell

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell no worky

HackToHell

2

Should now ^_^

Burgi

spacex - 96% success rate
snapchat - 100% success rate in the sexting market

Journeyman Geek

12:18

lol

Burgi

and the landing stats for spacex are even worse

50% failures on landings

William Mariager

Snapchat has failed too. :P People just don't care.

DavidPostill

@WilliamMariager They failed on the advertising too, I've never heard of it ;)

William Mariager

@DavidPostill You might not fall into their target audience. ;)

Guitar Shoe Dave

i love that image

DavidPostill

12:24

@GuitarShoeDave I don't fall in any advertisers target market - I don't believe any advertisers actually tell the truth about their products and I don't want to read/see/hear their lies. ;)

Burgi

@DavidPostill its what the kids do instead of flirting and staring at the floor awkwardly

Guitar Shoe Dave

i used to work for one of those companies

we used to fire pixels on pages

to track online behavior

Burgi

ah so you worked for snapchat

Psycogeek

well i didnt care till sexting came up, but being sexted by some 90yr old dude posing,, not my kind of thing

DavidPostill

The only reason for adverts is to spin things to make products look good and to break your enjoyment of any drama on TV.

Guitar Shoe Dave

12:25

@Burgi: Nah, worked for a company that provided analytics to dealerships across many segments in the usa.

DavidPostill

I suppose "sexting" is a rude text? Why do you need a special app for that?

Guitar Shoe Dave

we correlated online advertising with offline purchases.

DavidPostill

@GuitarShoeDave You would get 0 from me ;)

Burgi

@DavidPostill it specifically needs a photo attached

DavidPostill

ah. But most apps allow photos to be attached don't they? I can do that with email.

Guitar Shoe Dave

12:27

@DavidPostill: You'd be surprised of the # of browser vulnerabilities that there are that enable companies to still track you.

Burgi

normally of someones naughty bits

which you can then steal and put on the internet

love is complex....

Journeyman Geek

@GuitarShoeDave heh, most of my offline purchases are cash ;)

DavidPostill

@GuitarShoeDave I wouldn't. I use uBlock and no 3rd party cookies ...

Burgi

in dark alleys?

Guitar Shoe Dave

@Burgi: nah our method was 100% private, there was no way of tying our information down to a specific user. But yes, there are some that are VERY invasive.

Burgi

12:29

"meat? we have meat"

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi usually no.

DavidPostill

Oh and Privacy Badger

Burgi

there was a guy in futurama who sold "stuff" in dark alleys

Journeyman Geek

to dogs?

DavidPostill

I don't get targeted ads, I only get spam.

Guitar Shoe Dave

12:32

Ghostery is probably the best you can use to opt out of everything.. evidon requires all companies to provide methods of opting out of online advertising.. have you used it? I havent heard of uBlock though.

Journeyman Geek

ublock's a fairly conventional adblock thing

Guitar Shoe Dave

If you dont want to dowload ghostery u can just go here ghostery.com/support/global-opt-out

and blamo, instantly opted out of thousands of companies.

will have to try it out

Psycogeek

opt-out? in the US they have a "do not call" list, it is just used by the worst of them as the "Do Call" because nobody else is calling them in that list.

Guitar Shoe Dave

@Psycogeek: I feel your pain trust me.

ublock looks pretty sweet

XKCD

Does the screeching chill your blood and herald death? If yes, banshee. If no, seagull.

William Mariager

12:41

Moving around randomly I ended up at New Age Beleriand.

Pandya

3

Q: How can we add a "useful resources" to the help center?

I've visited the help-center of one the sites, and noticed a "useful resources" section: I'm surprised to see it, since I don't see it in the help center of other sites. So, how can we have such section in other site? Can a community (say Hinduism) decide and write such stuff (if worthy t...

Psycogeek

The advantage of never providing real information to forums, getting birthday notices throughout the year :-)

(now if they would just send presents)

Guitar Shoe Dave

@Psycogeek: i did that once on face book. I changed my birthday for a full week every day of the week. Just so that people would recieve the notification all week long.

Rahul Basu

@GuitarShoeDave lol

Also, where did you get that file with 530k periods?

I want it now!

crl

For documents edition (word, openoffice,..) is it bad to work on files on a USB key directly?

Rahul Basu

12:52

@crl No?

why would it be??

crl

I don't see why it would be bad, but someone once told me it should be avoided

dunno, maybe it takes more time to save, or whatever

Rahul Basu

um... if someone steals the usb, you don't have a backup?

Journeyman Geek

@crl same issue you have if you have one copy of anything

DavidPostill

@crl USBs have a habit of just failing. You have backups, right?

Psycogeek

@crl if one was to manufacture a reason, versions of word can store a backup version of what your working on, if a person was still working on it, and pulled any "removable" disk item, things that the program was doing might not finish up.

even if it was flushed and unmounted proper before uninstall, if the document was still open

HackToHell

13:09

geek.com/chips/…

whoa much

Samsung has for the first time (and an industry first) created a complete 512GB SSD solution in a single one-chip package. That’s the storage using 20mm NAND chips, 4Gb of DDR4 memory, and a controller in one to create an SSD called the PM971-NVMe.

Waiting for phones to come with that

Burgi

@DavidPostill the girl on reception is pretty too but she smells of coffee (we have a real barista coffee machine thing in reception)

DavidPostill

OOh. I like the smell of coffee ;)

Burgi

i realise this makes me sound like a proper weirdo who goes round sniffing people

4

crl

ah ok, thanks guys

Burgi

i don't

DavidPostill

13:18

@Burgi Maybe not, but you're going to get stars anyway ... ;)

crl

as long as she doesn't smell cigarette you're safe

GFSE

GemsFromStackExchange: “GURENTY”

posted on June 01, 2016

“GURENTY”

crl

spam like that deserve more to be ignored

HackToHell

13:38

joelgrus.com/2016/05/23/fizz-buzz-in-tensorflow

Oliver Salzburg

14:15

I have two tunnels, using plink, to the same machine. One for RDP and one for HTTP. RDP works, HTTP doesn't. wtf

However, I can access the HTTP service from other machines on the remote network, so the service is there

I have other tunnels that don't work right either. The HTTP one is just for easy debugging right now

All tunnels use the same exit node on the remote network, so... I don't get it

Journeyman Geek

swap the tunnel prts?

ports

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek Let's try

Journeyman Geek

then if the broken one changes, change the port of the broken one

qwertyuiop

@Burgi For gods sake how old are you

Burgi

i'm shy!

Journeyman Geek

14:20

@qwertyuiop heh, age has nothing to do with that IMO

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek RDP still works, HTTP doesn't. So it's not the port number

Ben N

<bursts in> Is the HTTP service hosted by IIS?

Burgi

@qwertyuiop i could say the same about you based on monday afternoon....

DavidPostill

@Burgi Hehe. Nice riposte

Burgi

any advice on this answer?

0

A: Increase the font size on Sublime Text 2 status bar?

I realise this is an old question, but I had a similar problem where all the text was too small; status bar, tabs, folder/file tree etc. The answer was to add "dpi_scale": 2.0 to my Sublime Prefs, as detailed here

qwertyuiop

14:28

@Bob Noooooooooooooooooooooo

Bob

@qwertyuiop ?

qwertyuiop

@Burgi WhenwasMonday afternoon?

What iswrongwith amy spacebar

 ,cvl.,bn

Problem solved.

Journeyman Geek

who is amy spacebar?

qwertyuiop

11 hours ago, by Bob

Spectre X2, w/ Core m7 & 512 GB SSD. $1240.

Noooooooooooooooooo!

Bob

@qwertyuiop Why no? o.o

qwertyuiop

14:30

Because Monday afternoon!

Bob

o.O

Is that a "no, don't buy it" or a ... actually I have no idea

I'm so confused

qwertyuiop

That's what she said

It's a no don't buy it because it's an X2

Journeyman Geek

!!what

ChatBot John Cavil

Bob

qwertyuiop

14:32

!!dave JourneymanGeek

ChatBot John Cavil

trouts @JourneymanGeek around a bit with a large @Dave!

Bob

@qwertyuiop What's wrong with the X2?

qwertyuiop

@Bob It's an X2

Oliver Salzburg

@BenN No

Bob

o_o

I'm not following

Journeyman Geek

14:33

beats the fear of god into @qwertyuiop with a monkfish

Bob

Any particular reason the X2 is bad?

qwertyuiop

Detachable 2-in-1's, especially if you want a larger machine, are generally shitty

Which is why in general there are no larger detachable 2-in-1s

Burgi

2 days ago, by DavidPostill

@qwertyuiop If you have to ask a question like that you are probably too out of it to even think about an interview.

qwertyuiop

@Burgi Think? What's think?

What's DavidPostill's think got to do with your girls in the office?

Journeyman Geek

what you do if you need to decide if you even need to ask a question like that

DavidPostill

14:37

@Burgi I suggest you ignore the troll.

Burgi

i was

we need a !!goat

HackToHell

TIL my company does the fizzbuzz test

qwertyuiop

A question like what?

How old he is to be blushing about girls in the office instead of just talking to them?

Journeyman Geek

People can do that at any age

DavidPostill

:30044735

2 days ago, by qwertyuiop

Should I wear a condom during this interview?

qwertyuiop

14:39

Not if they're so old they experience cardiovascular collapse!

Ben N

!!xkcd 463

ChatBot John Cavil

And that's *another* crypto conference I've been kicked out of. C'mon, it's a great analogy!

Journeyman Geek

they can blush. Then they can die.

Bob

@qwertyuiop Ah, it's detachable? urk.

Yea, I have one and it's not great :\

Hm.

DavidPostill

In addition to emotional triggers, other causes of blushing can include:

alcohol
hot or spicy foods
hot drinks
a high temperature (fever)
sudden hot or cold temperatures
strenuous exercise
certain medical conditions or medication

Bob

14:40

OTOH, it's effectively what a Surface Pro is.

qwertyuiop

@Bob That's what the X2 means

The 360 flip ones are called the X360

DavidPostill

@BenN lol

Journeyman Geek

@BenN there's an XKCD for everything

qwertyuiop

@Bob There's a reason the Surface Pro only comes in "a tad small" screen sizes

Bob

@qwertyuiop Eh, I think 12" is still usable as a tablet

Journeyman Geek

14:42

@qwertyuiop "fun sized"

Bob

Maybe just a bit small to read as a laptop.

Journeyman Geek

since I'll prolly never buy a >12 inch laptop ever again

Bob

But, yea. Thanks for the warning. I'll probably stay away from this one.

qwertyuiop

@ChatBotJohnCavil And the teacher blames his teaching errors on his condom...

@Bob You said itself it's a tad small

I ASSUMED YOU MEANT WHAT YOU SAID :-((((

Bob

@qwertyuiop I meant a tad small since I was originally looking for 13". But my brother said he actually wanted 12" more :P

qwertyuiop

14:43

13-14" convertibles are IMO the best size for me. At least they're my target area

Especially with next-gen dGPUs that can easily play Crysis

Bob

@qwertyuiop What's the new "crysis"? :P

(for "but can it run")

qwertyuiop

@Bob It's still Crysis

Bob

Huh.

Not, say, AotS?

qwertyuiop

Though if you were really forward looking, I'd say Star Citizen

Bob

Is that one even at release yet?

qwertyuiop

14:46

No but the previews/demos are raping high-end hardware already

Bob

@qwertyuiop Yea... I'm kinda torn between wanting a full-size laptop to use at home (the XPS 15 looks nice) or a little one that's more portable.

qwertyuiop

Burgi goes around sniffing girls in the office?! WTF

Bob

My current one is kinda in the middle... 13", powerful, but still quite bulky/thick.

qwertyuiop

@Bob XPS 13?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I'm trying to convince my brother not to replace his desktop replacement laptop with another one ;p

qwertyuiop

14:47

Do you want convertible? If not then you have a huge amount more choice

.

Bob

@qwertyuiop I rarely use things in tablet mode anyway. But I've been eyeing the cheap ~$200 Chinese convertibles for the portable role.

qwertyuiop

Pizza Hut does a good Macaroni Cheese

Bob

ideally it'd be a Core M of some sort. But that instantly pushes it up to at least $600...

qwertyuiop

Well if you're not too fussed about convertibles, Gigabyte have a decent range of 13-14" machines with powerful internals that are still thin, light, and have great battery life

Bob

o.O

Never used (or seen) a Gigabyte laptop

qwertyuiop

14:49

If you don't care about gaming, Lenovo and Dell's ultrabooks are great too

@Bob aorus.com/Product/Features/X3%20Plus%20v5

Well that's one model from last year

Bob

Yea, that's kinda why I wanted to go with two separate devices this time around :P

Journeyman Geek

razer blade stealth!

;p

Bob

@qwertyuiop That's basically a beefed up version of my current one (W230SS).

qwertyuiop

@Bob hexus.net/tech/news/laptop/…

That's their newer model

@Bob I thought you said you had an XPS 15

jokerdino

@Bob what's that

qwertyuiop

14:50

The Gigabyte ones are beefed down if you know what I mean (a lot thinner)

DavidPostill

lol. I just had a recruiter offering a job in the Czech Republic

Bob

@qwertyuiop I said it looks nice, as in I'm considering it :P

jokerdino

you'r a genius.

Bob

@jokerdino A terrible ad

Journeyman Geek

yer a genious arry

qwertyuiop

14:51

@jokerdino It's his genius detector, written by an obviously jealous non-genius

Bob

@qwertyuiop They look nice, but they're again kinda in that awkward slightly too big to carry and slightly too small to use comfortably at home

jokerdino

going to visit some of Bob's rooms and kick him out. brb

qwertyuiop

@Bob Too big to carry? :-o

In a bag or in your hand?

Bob

Probably looking at 10"-13" to leave in the bag

@jokerdino Oi!

Leave my rooms alone!

2

qwertyuiop

> Discussion on question by Bryan McClure: What can the government do with its clone army after the war is won?
Discussion on answer by mark kirby: Does Ubuntu damage USB drives?
Discussion on answer by Wally: What are the programming and computer references in Steins;Gate?
Discussion on question by Edison: How to divide large bank notes into smaller ones while traveling?
Discussion on question by Lumberjack: How can I help my direct report to understand he is not being micromanaged?
Room for Bob and jokerdino

DavidPostill

14:53

@qwertyuiop 13"-14" usually requires 2 hands

jokerdino

last posted 441d ago. Pls.

qwertyuiop

What the

Bob

@jokerdino Hey, if your problem is with the UI complain to SE...

Journeyman Geek

> A last option, although not one I particularly recommend for other reasons (RSI injuries in particular) would be to get a job filling jars in an artisan scale canning/bottling plant. A friend of mine does that and after several years has bulked up his arms to the point he was able to use my 15x70 binoculars with 1 hand the way an average person could do with a light weight 5x35 pair

jokerdino

that's a new one

Journeyman Geek

14:53

0_0

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek But does it stop the shaking ;)

qwertyuiop

@Bob Meh, 14"'s can be easily left in a bag

Adds a bit of weight though but the size is basically un-noticeable

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I used to have an (older/bulkier) 14" as my daily laptop.

not TOO bad

Bob

@qwertyuiop I usually carry a pretty small bag these days :P

jokerdino

like a purse?

Bob

14:55

A slim 14" could probably fit, but it'd be to the point where I'd worry about breaking it.

@jokerdino ...small backpack.

qwertyuiop

@Bob My bag is small on the side of laptop bags but fits a 14" just fine, and a 14+13" at a stretch

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino heh, for quite a while my usual bag was one of those little army dispatch bags

AKA the manliest handbag ever

qwertyuiop

Like I said though, those new Gigabyte gaming laptops are extremely thin

But if you want ultra ultra thin and ultra light, there's always the X1 carbon

Bob

@qwertyuiop I got tired of carrying a bulky bag around. Actually, I'm on the verge of not bothering with a bag at all.

qwertyuiop

shop.lenovo.com/gb/en/laptops/thinkpad/x-series/x1-carbon

Journeyman Geek

14:56

@qwertyuiop pricy tho?

Bob

^ :P

If money wasn't a problem? Sure!

qwertyuiop

Journeyman Geek

@qwertyuiop What you do in your spare time is your business

Bob

@qwertyuiop tbh that doesn't look much thinner than my old one

qwertyuiop

Also it's a lot cheaper than the Stinkpad X1 Yoga with OLED display

Bob

14:58

> weighs 1.89Kg and measures 335(W) x 250(D) x 19.9(H)mm

Journeyman Geek

(and that of whoever handled the flag on that)

a thinkpad X2xx would be a lot cheaper

qwertyuiop

X2xx is a bit thicker and heavier IIRC

But then again it's a 12"

So maybe not?

Goddammit where the hell are the OLED displays.

Journeyman Geek

but something like a grand cheaper?

jokerdino

Pound is costlier than USD, right?

qwertyuiop

Dell, Alienware, Lenovo all announced OLEDs back in January and not one is available to buy yet

Bob

14:59

My old one:

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Dimensions (W x D x H)
25 x 38 x 2.65 cm

Weight
Starting at 2.4 kg

qwertyuiop

@jokerdino Yeah, £1 = $1.5 USD or so

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