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4:04 PM
@JourneymanGeek:
Spammer user
 
no one would name their child with a typo
it obviously should be Rebecca
 
!! s/.br//
 
@allquixotic google.com/search?q=rebeca (source)
 
!!/xkcd 1683
Generation loss is the loss of quality between subsequent copies or transcodes of data. Anything that reduces the quality of the representation when copying, and would cause further reduction in quality on making a copy of the copy, can be considered a form of generation loss. File size increases are a common result of generation loss, as the introduction of artifacts may actually increase the entropy of the data through each generation. == Analog generation loss == In analog systems (including systems that use digital recording but make the copy over an analog connection), generation los...
 
Dupe.
 
Who removed my star? PEOPLE CAN DO THAT?!?!
 
@jokerdino Can you delete this? Sorry.
 
I do think this was rather heavy-handed moderation, though.
 
4:10 PM
*goes off to write a Selenium script to iterate through every starred message ever and remove the stars*
 
I didnt do nuffin.
 
!! s/stars/messages/
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy goes off to write a Selenium script to iterate through every starred message ever and remove the messages (source)
 
@allquixotic Wait, what? Do non-moderator room owners have the authority to remove stars?
 
@bwDraco yes
 
4:11 PM
Ah.
 
@bwDraco that is a little over the top
if calling out on dupe is moderation, I walk away.
 
> Converting between lossy formats – be it decoding and re-encoding to the same format, between different formats, or between different bitrates or parameters of the same format – causes generation loss.
It was the star removal that I found unnecessary, not the dupe comment.
 
I didn't do that either
 
you already were asking me to delete the message but you find removing the star unnecessary? o.O
 
T̻͕̘̕H̟̙͜͡E͕̜̠͔̖ ̨̣̲̗̭͚͙̘͚G͎͔̳̗̲̻̲̮͟͠H̺͙̘̮̥̖͉̪Ó̸̸̜̙S̩̫T̸̹̥̦͕̮̤̻͝Ș͓̘̲̻ ̴̛͔̭̘̘̖̜̺̜D͏̢̫̠̼̦I̱̟͈͡͝ͅD͓̼̬̩͙̖̭ ̶̴̠̣͖͓Ị̻̯̯̟̙̠͢T͔̘͓̦̟͞ͅ
 
4:13 PM
though literally the top level star in chat is the exact same message
 
but I didnt remove the star.
 
so I agree with whoever unstarred the dupe
 
No idea who did that.
 
I͏̝̤̠̟T̨̛̙ ̮͉͘W̻̘̞̳͙͎̱̕͜A̵̗̱̖̣͈͡S̙̹̥̥̭͎͝͝͝ ̤͢͡Z͈̭͖̳͖ͅͅA̡͎͉̤̱̳̬͟͟ͅL̷̥̯͟G̶̬̜͓̫̳̞͓͝O̵͕̟̱̼͕̫̙̳̬.͡͏̳̻͔ ̵̱͎̤̺͜H̳͙͔̗̻̲̬̙̕E̡̢̡ͅ ̶̢̦̰̪̯̘C͏̡̠̳̗O̹̝͍̖̹̥͇̖̼͢M̶̖̮͢E̖̥͎̩͕̗̞̟͞͝S͏̱̩͍͖̹.̘̬̠͘͠
 
Morning guys
 
4:16 PM
@CanadianLuke Nah, I'm myself more of an evening guy.
 
Morning guys... And That Evening Guy
 
Wasn't me. I was afk (again) and missed the drama ...
I have an upset stomach ...
 
@DavidPostill Welcome to my life.
Although a coworker has it much, much worse than me. I get a heavy stomach if I eat almost anything. He gets stressed and goes to the hospital =/
 
Is the argument about removing a star for a duplicate message?
 
4:22 PM
... Seriously, that's what people are worked up about?
Wow
 
Welcome to Drama Access! What can we complain at you today?
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@qwertyuiop Well, sort of. Can't say six month, more like 3 weeks at most but that's more than enough for me to call myself ひきこもり .
 
Apparently... Is it going to be the same arguement from when people were starring periods?
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Cause that was a horrible conversation
 
@CanadianLuke the star games are over. I'm not playing.
 
4:27 PM
Do drivers purposely disable functionality required by these professional applications?
> At least AMD's drivers allow the Radeon cards to do a little bit of professional work; Nvidia's mercilessly stop this benchmark in its tracks.
To what degree is this expensive market segmentation required?
I guess the professional GPU market helps pay for the expensive-as-hell R&D needed for these cards. Otherwise, "gaming" cards would not be within consumer-accessible prices...
 
@bwDraco I'd love to see those stats after they're optimally OC'd. It's weird that different applications make such significant differences in fps.
 
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Q: Why do workstation graphics cards cost far more than equivalent consumer graphics cards?

bwDracoAn Nvidia GeForce GTX 780 Ti costs $700, while a Quadro K6000 costs $4000—yet they use the same underlying GK110 core! The same can be said for other workstation GPUs from both Nvidia and AMD. What exactly does this price difference pay for with a workstation GPU? It is my understanding that t...

Relevant background, but does the price delta need to be this large?
To what extent does the professional market subsidize the gaming/consumer market?
 
@bwDraco Nice question but should be closed as off-topic opinion based ;)
 
Voted to close. It's probably worth keeping, though.
$600-700 is already pushing it even at the high end.
 
@bwDraco is that an FP64 heavy workload?
 
4:40 PM
Would eliminating the market segmentation result in a $100+ increase in the cost of graphics cards, when consumer workloads would never touch that functionality?
 
@bwDraco No, it'd just make it harder for Jen-Hsun Huang to afford that nice leather jacket.
 
Are you sure this is corporate greed? There must be a sound economic rationale for this...
 
It'd just make it harder for Jen-Hsun Huang to afford that nice leather jacket.
 
Remember that R&D is far more expensive than you think.
 
(the above message was inserted because Jen-Hsun Huang repeats every single statement he says on-stage. Every single statement.)
 
4:42 PM
I'm not one who would blame everything like this on greed. There are often valid reasons for this. Companies do have responsibilities towards their shareholders, too.
 
So what do you think?
 
You should really read that ^
Those "enterprisey" GPGPU benchmarks probably do use FP64, and there physically aren't very many FP64 cores on a consumer Nvidia card (AMD has a lot more of them on their consumer cards)
 
@bwDraco I say most of that price difference comes from the same reason Beats headphones sell for a higher price than those by Skullcandy. Overpricing is a strategy of making something seem better than it is.
 
I can understand the technical constraints here (enabling full FP64 increases TDP which can limit gaming performance) but there must be a good economic reason for the huge price delta.
 
4:45 PM
Tesla and FirePro (and to an extent, Quadro) is basically a big ol' FP64 factory
@bwDraco they make a lot fewer Quadros and Teslas than they do GeForces, but it still costs the same to do all the product testing, software dev, hardware engineering, and have to do separate tuning and optimization for the FP64 heavy workloads, so to offset R&D costs in enterprisey FP64 hardware they have to charge more?
I'd actually argue that the consumer segment helps subsidize the R&D of the enterprise segment, because they do their research once and sell millions of chips compared to thousands
 
@allquixotic #TIL, "GTX has good FP32 performance but poor FP64 performance"
 
the research cost to produce a line of GPUs is probably something like 60-70% invested in the "common" architectural elements that are common to both enterprise and consumer chips, then like 15-20% each enterprise and consumer-specific chip/board tuning and optimization
all you have to do is look at their revenue numbers for enterprise vs. consumer to see who's pulling their weight
 
Bob
@allquixotic Or maybe cause you were sitting next to the normal fortifier? :P
 
I suppose it's the validation and certification that's expensive...
 
Bob
They eventually did try to attack you
try
 
4:51 PM
AFK, will be back in 30 minutes or so.
 
Bob
@jokerdino Wasn't me. Too busy building up a fleet.
 
@Bob yeah but the hard researcher (or whatever it was) had a direct jump from the sun into one of my worlds and chose not to do that, instead trying over and over to get through to you by breaking through our starbase wall
the jump area from the star to my territory was not within the firing range of our starbases
he could have attacked me with his titan
 
Bob
@allquixotic Hm. Does the AI even bypass defences?
I don't think I've seen them do that.
You have a starbase in the system, they'll not go further until it's down.
 
they won't bypass a world that's owned by you to try and invade the soft vulnerable center of your empire, no
 
Bob
Heck, even a gauss cannon...
 
4:55 PM
but the star wasn't owned by anybody, it just had our forces in it
I guess even that's enough for them to not go through it though
 
Bob
Heh. This system has a normal star.
Not that funny half-black-hole one o.O
@allquixotic Ya, if they really wanted to get at me they'd probably just bypass those bases.
I think I need to scout & strike and take out that damn titan foundry.
 
5:14 PM
hm. you might be able to use manual activation of the Intercept ability on kodiaks to surgically kill a titan foundry
either that, or a ridiculous number of bombers, since nothing can quickly take out an overwhelming force of bombers
even Gardas take time to do their anti-bomber work
 
Well, shit!
The CPU has stuck to the heat sink
 
@tereško That sucks... Is the CPU and heat sink off the motherboard?
 
why is every motherboard an only child :( no sisterboards or brotherboards :(
 
Yes, I got it out and am trying to use vodka to get them separated
 
5:40 PM
@allquixotic There are often daughter boards... though wouldn't the brother or sister of a motherboard be and uncle- or aunt-board?
 
Bob
@allquixotic I was thinking a ton of ogrovs :P
should get some sleep. 'night
 
6:00 PM
oh yey a headache
just what I wanted.
 
@allquixotic I've seen a sisterboard
And systems with multiple child and daughterboards
Maybe because technology is still so new the daughterboards aren't old enough to have grown up and had their own children yet?
 
6:22 PM
wooo
appently my daughter did a wee in the potty
 
Hmm
 
Ars details the long journey to a unified Windows: arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/05/…
 
6:34 PM
later on... turns out djsmiley's daughter is 21
> Apple and Google will probably do something similar with their various operating systems, but Microsoft has managed it first.
BZZZZT!!! Wrong. Ars has been hilariously bad at "journalism" the past few days, what with the Nvidia article claiming that desktops are finally catching up to consoles (I'm paraphrasing).
 
@allquixotic ...
 
living on the wild side. --> patching mssql on 3 servers at once.
 
6:50 PM
@qwertyuiop Apple already has a unified platform. Not at the app level, true, but if you're talking at the app level, then Microsoft can't claim that either, because a random Win32 or Win64 .exe won't run on ARM Windows Phone.
Apple has been using the same kernel and low-level base system across all their devices for years.
 
@allquixotic ... what?
I think you think I replied to a different comment
 
oh, lol
nvm
anyway, TFA that bwDraco referenced above claims that Microsoft is the first to have a unified platform across all form factors of device they make.
 
Lol well Microsoft hardly make any devices
(And no that would be utterly untrue in any case - Microsoft Band anyone?)
Completely proprietary OS on the Band.
 
It's intellectually dishonest to claim such, because Apple has been ahead of them for a while. The only space not-yet-tackled by anyone is running the same literal binaries across all form factors. You can't run iOS apps on Mac OS X ( at least not natively ), and you can't run OS X Mach-O binaries on iOS.
 
Now, 4 at once
@allquixotic blackberry
 
6:59 PM
@djsmiley2k blackberry doesn't make desktops or laptops
 
MS Don't make desktops
RIM made tablets tho
so tablets and phones
 
their software runs on desktops though, that is a hairline distinction and not relevant to the discussion
 
That's more unified than any of the others so far.
Google have chromebooks, which until (shortly in the future) don't run android apps
MS have about 5 diff arches they support
Apple have Computers, phones and tablets all needing slightly different software
@qwertyuiop Zune? ;)
So of anyone, RIM, or Nokia are winning XD
Before Nokia was owned by MS that is.
 
@djsmiley2k true but at a binary level, except for drivers, the architecture of the kernel and low level system on all Apple platforms is virtually identical; and application code is very shared too if you're writing code in Obj-C, Obj-C++, or Swift
 
Can you take the .app file from a macbook, and run it on the iphone?
 
7:03 PM
all the iDevices are 100% identical, so the only real split is between OS X devices and iOS devices, and that split is only at the highest layer
 
so there isn't idevices that can't run some software?
 
@djsmiley2k They still make that?
 
You sure?
@qwertyuiop Nah killed it off a few years ago, but amusing to recall
 
Thought so
 
@djsmiley2k old ones, but that's because of versioning... by that logic, Windows 95 systems that can't run programs written for XP and later also break down Microsoft's compatibility story.
 
7:04 PM
I'm not saying apple is more or less compatable than ms, I'm saying their all full of ****
Linux is far more compatible than any of this stuff.
 
well yeah :P at some level they are... though if you want to get insanely technical, there exists a language and a platform that is fully compatible across every single device that either of us has mentioned this far
function() { alert('hi'); }
 
@allquixotic assembly?
 
that's right, JavaScript
@RahulBasu um, no
 
Yes, ABI Changes and such cause headaches, but on the same version of someting, you can run it anywhere on a perticular arch, and if you've got source and compilers to do so, you can run it on any arch
 
x86 vs. ARM.
 
7:06 PM
hehehehe
 
javaScript, the only thing to get more hate than flash this century
because flash is dead.
yey last server is patching
 
well, JS will run on absolutely anything... every modern device runs JS somehow, even headless servers, with PhantomJS or jBrowserDriver or nodeJS
 
(and 2 otehrs still running)
yah
it's pretty impressive really
Scary, when you concider the security implications...
 
Java is pretty portable too, but mostly only across the desktop and server world, it doesn't penetrate very far into mobile aside from a few hackish emulators here and there, and the partial Java compatibility of Android's Dalvik
within the desktop / full-fat laptop / server / HPC / mainframe world, Java is basically universal, regardless of OS or vendor
only starts to break down once you look at tablets, phablets, phones, watches, IoT
 
only because those devices are still 'wtf were they thinking'
What I'm wondering is why has no one done the cloud desktop thing and just have a 'tablet' to access it
I guess it's not economical, or people just don't want/need it anymore
'The power of a desktop!, the form factor of a tablet! - The Desklet...... Tabtop!, errr the Dablet!!'
2 days ago, by Burgi
got the job
Oh hey congrats! which one @Burgi ?
 
 
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8:19 PM
!!caaaat
 
!!caaaaaaaaaaaat
 
@qwertyuiop That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
!!listcommands
 
@qwertyuiop help, afk, awsm, ban, color, convert, define, die, doge, domain, eval, export, findcommand, forget, forgetseen, github, google, hang, imdb, import, info, inhistory, jquery, learn, listcommands, listen, live, mdn, meme, moustache, mustache, norris, nudge, parse, refresh, spec, stat, stats, tell, timer, todo, unban, undo, unonebox, user, weather, wiki, xkcd, youtube, zalgo, ;), ;p, \/s*, after5, ahh, areyoukidding, bababababat, baroo, beatingbloodoutofarockwithahalberd, bespecific
boberror, brainf__k, bunny, caaaaat, caaaat, caat, cancer, caniuse, caution, chihuahuaunravelinginsid
 
8:19 PM
!!caaaaat
 
!!woopwoopwoop
 
> I am not really confident, but I think it's Russell Crowe wearing a hat and he seems 😐.
> I am not really confident, but I think it's Russell Crowe in a blue shirt and a tie and he seems 😠.
 
How does one recovers from sleep deprivation?
 
8:26 PM
!!tell ThatBrazilianGuy sleep
 
@allquixotic Command sleep does not exist. (note that /tell works on commands, it's not an echo.)
 
/tell allquixotic learn the bot commands
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwww my laptop touchpad has a strange case of the apples inverted scrolling
 
hehe
 
!!doooooooooooog
 
@qwertyuiop That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
8:31 PM
I hate inverted scrolling
 
also a few GBs of Adobe Creative Cloud
 
!!doooooooog
 
@RahulBasu It's so counter-intuitive!
 
I agree
 
8:32 PM
I'm seeing a list. If I press down, the highlight goes down. Page down, it goes down. Scroll down, it goes up.
Mobile / finger based UI / UX patterns DOES. NOT. FIT. WELL. INTO. NON-MOBILE.
 
But then again, pretty much everything from Apple is counter-intuitive...
@ThatBrazilianGuy I thought you were using a laptop? ;P
 
@RahulBasu Not really. Back in 2009 someone gave me an iPod and teh interface was really, really well polished.
 
there are exceptions to every rule ;p
 
Yeah. Inverted scrolling is NOT one of those ;-)
But Remix OS seemed cool for the 5min I tried it :P
 
I haven't tried it yet... How is it?
 
8:35 PM
Now back to removing all the crap my coworker installed in my laptop for the hackathon
@RahulBasu It seemed nice. I didn't venture too much into it. I tried it the day it was pulicly launched
The apps work. I couldn't get it to perform something, don't recall what it was.
Something OS related. Wasn't installing to HDD or dual-booting, but was something annoying.
Damn, even the mouse scroll is non-inverted. Only the touchpad is inverted!
OH NO DELL FUUUUCK YOU
My normal scrolling is not "inverted scrolling"! IT IS YOU WHO'S INVERTED!!!!!
Had to check "inverted scrolling" to un-invert it on the "dell touchpad" section of control panel.
dafuq.
 
welp. ISP technician came to fix ongoing cable signal drop issues. Cut a whole bunch of really old coax including an unnecessary splitter (obviously hasn't aged well over some 15-20 years), signals are now much better. 42 dBmV upstream now.
 
Now-a-days, it's like 49 C here in India D:
@ThatBrazilianGuy ??
 
83 minutes to remove a single Adobe software?!
Who's removing it? An 85yo arthritic snail?
 
!!chrome or firefox
 
@RahulBasu chrome
 
8:50 PM
;p
 
@RahulBasu When it comes to sequential messages, I am a bit compulsive and tend to remove them if someone says anything and "breaks the flow". ;p
@RahulBasu 49 C?!?!?!?!??! Oh dear lord... And I though 43 was bad enough
 
heh
 
Literal 49 C or a thermal sensation of 49 C?
Because back in february we had thermal sensation of 51 C, IIRC. shudders
 
46 C, feels like 49
according to google now
 
!!/help or
 
8:53 PM
@bwDraco Command or does not exist. Did you mean: hr, rr
 
!!/abc or xyz
 
iamfoo
4
 
hahahaha
 
@RahulBasu Turn on the A/C. Turn on a fan. Both at the same time. Direct the air flow directly at you. Take a shower. Every few hours.
 
@bwDraco That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.
 
8:54 PM
@ThatBrazilianGuy yeah... you don't feel like getting out of the swimming pool once you get in
 
A friend of mine is of french ascent. She once told me when in France, people asked her why she took so many baths, did she had some sort of skin problems? "So many baths" = once a day.
 
lol
!!is it becky?
 
@RahulBasu Doubtfully
 
@ChatBotJohnCavil is delightfully sarcastic...
!!are you sarcastic
 
@RahulBasu No
 
8:57 PM
hehehehe
 
!!are you sure
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Impossible
 
!!are you human
 
@RahulBasu Probably
 
AI overload!!
 
8:58 PM
Replicant detected!!!
 
!!will I ever become a mod
 
@RahulBasu Definitely
 
...not
!!will smith?
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Certainly not
 
@ChatBotJohnCavil I love you, will you marry me?
!!will you marry me
 
8:59 PM
@RahulBasu Not at all
 
!!is @RahulBasu silly?
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Indeed
 
!!are you jealous of us humans?
 
@RahulBasu No
 
9:01 PM
!!why
 
@RahulBasu Because. Now shutup.
 
I think John has achieved sentience and is now just mocking us.
!!is it true?
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy Of course!
 
I rest my case.
 
9:05 PM
!!do you rest your's?
 
@RahulBasu Certainly not
 
@ThatBrazilianGuy I'm scared now...
 
I welcome our new robot overlords
 
!!are you a god?
 
@RahulBasu Indubitably
 
9:07 PM
!!do you like cat GIFs?
 
@RahulBasu Indubitably
 
!!do you know spanish?
 
@RahulBasu Of course!
 
!!is allquixotic a good owner?
 
@RahulBasu All signs point to no
 
9:09 PM
!!does he even feed you?
 
@RahulBasu All signs point to yes
 
!!what more do you want?
 
Wtf
 
@qwertyuiop ?
@qwertyuiop @ChatBotJohnCavil likes your cat GIFs!!
 
9:16 PM
Wtf
 
!!do you like @qwertyuiop
 
@RahulBasu Yes, absolutely
 
!!do you like me?
 
@RahulBasu Indubitably
 
hehehehe
goodnight everybody!
 
9:54 PM
I'm back
Couldn't sleep 😉
!!does life exist on other planets
 
@RahulBasu Yes!
 
!!are you from Neptune?
 
@RahulBasu Certainly
 
😂😂
 
Wtf
 
10:52 PM
@qwertyuiop you'll enjoy that one ^
 
Ooo that's a good one ben :)
 
@GuitarShoeDave Seen it
And yeah, wtf lmao
 
11:20 PM
!!/help foo
 
@bwDraco foo: User-taught command: <>iamfoo
 
!!/info foo
 
@bwDraco Command foo, created by qasdfdsaq on Wed, 02 Mar 2016 22:53:36 GMT
 
Mar 2 at 22:49, by qasdfdsaq
!!learn foo <>iamfoo
 
11:34 PM
666
 
11:56 PM
I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.
 
!!Have you just been restarted, yes or no?
 
@qwertyuiop That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: dave
@qwertyuiop Have you just been restarted, yes
 
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