Root Access

Bob

00:04

You're missing the DOSBox/Turbo C++ world in which int is still very much 16 bits. I hate to say it, but if you're going to write about "today's cross-platform world", you can't ignore the entire Indian subcontinent. — Lightness Races in Orbit 2 days ago

@LightnessRacesinOrbit The entire Indian subcontinent writes code in Turbo C++ targeting DOSBox? Why? — immibis yesterday

@immibis: I don't know :( — Lightness Races in Orbit yesterday

lol

Journeyman Geek

Cause that's what the textbook is in.

bwDraco

01:46

@Bob Why on earth would you want to target DOSBox? You might as well just build code for GCC under Linux...

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I think that's a semi joke

Also I wouldn't be suprised if there were a ton of win98 boxen floating around

Journeyman Geek

02:16

Heh, I had efficient, actually useful tech support from the cable company

They were like "how's it connected? No sound? I'm going to reset the device. Swap the connectors over from the right set to the middle set" and it worked

Bob

@bwDraco You seem to be ignoring the large quantity of legacy code.

bwDraco

Why the hell would there be this much DOS code in production that hasn't been migrated to Win32?

Bob

I'm currently in the middle of migrating a system originally written ~2007. It's ridiculously difficult to maintain compatibility sometimes. And this is a webapp on a mostly-backwards-compatible platform, on top of a mostly-backwards-compatible framework.

Journeyman Geek

Sawmills!

Bob

Migrating legacy code without breaking things is by no means a simple task.

Sometimes, migrations don't make sense.

Other times, it's best to just go with what you know.

That particular comment was a joke that made exaggerations for the sake of, y'know, a joke.

But unless you're willing to pay for the time and effort required to migrate code for often-negligible gains, it ain't gonna happen.

That said, everyone knows Indian programmers love targeting Java 1.4.

(that, too, was a joke)

Rahul Basu

05:12

@Bob All engineering courses in India use Turbo C++...

Journeyman Geek

@RahulBasu :(

OLD COUNTRY. WHY. YOU. DO. THIS.

Rahul Basu

lol

tereško

for some reason, I am not even a little bit surprised

Bob

05:30

@RahulBasu Wait, seriously? O_O

bwDraco

05:46

Oy vey. Got carried away in Skyrim.

Alright. Back to work.

bwDraco

06:00

(20 million players can't be wrong...)

HackToHell

07:14

Yep @Bob

I refused and used GCC

They took some marks off in my lab exams -.-

@RahulBasu What year ?

Bob

@HackToHell Ok, I've seen a lot of outdated crap being used (and taught?) in uni courses, but it's odd how widespread you guys are implying this particular one is :P

HackToHell

Well the people who teach Computer Science in lame colleges(like the one I study in) are the ones who could not get an job at an company due to their poor skills

And this person continues to teach what he learnt

This process goes on

And ta da Turbo C

Bob

@HackToHell "lame colleges" => diploma factories?

HackToHell

Yeah I suppose they mean the same

There are 552 college in my state alone and only ~10 are good

In the entire state

And it's impossible for the average person to get in

Bob

Or, not quite as bad as the technical definition of a diploma mill but not that far off apparently...

HackToHell

07:23

if it's based on merit and then there are these super expensive places to study that have good teachers cause they charge you that much

Bob

@HackToHell To be fair, a lot of the time you can effectively teach concepts even with outdated tools.

But at a certain point the difficulty in setting up the toolchain makes it an ... ineffective ... teaching tool.

HackToHell

Yeah, problem is no one knows anything :/

Good people in IT make a lot more $$ in companies than in teaching

So it's pretty rare to find someone who's a good teacher

In my college there is exactly one person .-.

That's the sorry state of the Indian Education System

Worst part is I have to code on paper to get marks

Write a program to do blah blah comes up in the exam

Which sucks

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell the lame colleges take capitation fees too, right?

Bob

@HackToHell Also, eh, I'm pretty sure we were on some early-ish version of gcc 3.x in the introductory uni courses

(the more specialised courses sometimes had more up to date servers)

No biggie. As long as you aren't intending to learn c++1x or something.

@HackToHell Heh. That was basically the high school exams. Uni... depends on the course. Some were computer-based exams, others paper. Usually the paper ones accepted some level of pseudocode and was, again, more for demonstrating concepts than writing a full working program.

The high school ones were murder on the wrist... damn all-caps crap.

Now you have me wanting to double-check which version was installed, but I don't have access to the cse servers anymore :\

HackToHell

07:40

@JourneymanGeek yeah

@Bob I simply sshed into my server and used the default gcc in my server ^_^

Bob

Bleh. When your assignments are source submissions compiled by the marking script, that ain't gonna work.

HackToHell

07:56

Here, you have to simply compile and show em xD

There's no marking/grading thingy

Bob

@HackToHell plagiarism?

HackToHell

@Bob is encouraged

Basically, the staff are like, if you can't get it to work

Download it off the internet

yes education is horrible here

Bob

...

That explains so many SO questions

And answers too...

"Here use this code" <500 lines of crap with no explanation and shitty formatting>

Rahul Basu

@Bob i'm expected to learn turbo c++ by eleventh grade

my teacher pronounces alpha as ulpha :(

not kidding

even the premier unis teach turbo c++

i know a guy who's IIT prof punished him beacuse apparently, ruby is not a programming language

!!wiki IIT

ChatBot John Cavil

IIT

IIT may refer to: A number of technology higher education institutes: Indian Institutes of Technology, a group of 19 higher education institutes in India Illinois Institute of Technology, a private Ph.D.-granting research university in Chicago, Illinois, USA IIT Madrid (Instituto de Investigación Tecnológica), the research institute of the ICAI School of Engineering at the Comillas Pontifical University in Madrid, Spain Indiana Institute of Technology, in Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA Informatics Institute of Technology, in Wellawatta, Sri Lanka Inha Institute of Technology, the parent institution of...

Rahul Basu

08:11

!!wiki Indian Institutes of Technology

ChatBot John Cavil

Indian Institutes of Technology

The Indian Institutes of Technology (IITs) are autonomous public institutes of higher education, located in India. They are governed by the Institutes of Technology Act, 1961 which has declared them as institutions of national importance, and lays down their powers, duties, and framework for governance etc. The Institutes of Technology Act, 1961 lists sixteen institutes located at Chennai, Delhi, Guwahati, Kanpur, Kharagpur, Mumbai, Roorkee, Bhubaneswar, Gandhinagar, Hyderabad, Indore, Jodhpur, Mandi, Patna, Ropar and Varanasi. Each IIT is an autonomous institution, linked to the others through...

Rahul Basu

^yep. those guys

HackToHell

wat javapoly.com

What year/class you in @RahulBasu

Rahul Basu

I'm in grade 10

quora.com/…

^LOLOLOLOL

At school level, the primary reference book is Sumita Arora and Yashwant Kanetkar. They never explicitly state the right compiler to use. Moreover most of their screen shots are turbo c++ ones.

2.

The teachers that are appointed in schools are from early Win 98 era. They are both familiar and comfortable in using turbo C++. Therefore, students are also forced to adapt to this.

So, my school life is going to be pretty depressing the next few years :(

Burgi

08:29

hey

got to go printer shopping today

HackToHell

@RahulBasu Not ICSE?

I had java for 8,9,10

Rahul Basu

@HackToHell CBSE

I was in ICSE...

CBSE has coding from 11th, not 9th :(

HackToHell

Oh sucks

Rahul Basu

08:44

ikr

Journeyman Geek

09:26

@RahulBasu Meh, school's for the paper

You learn more outside school

Rahul Basu

;)

DavidPostill

10:07

User superuser.com/users/591928/md-mokter-hosssain is spamming his blog across multiple sites.

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Tried Silkypix Developer Studio? I have it on CD which came with Panasonic Lumix DMC-G5. Maybe it should be enough than buying Lightroom.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill he's sitting ona week's suspension.

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Hopefully the Ask Ubuntu mods will do the same ;)

Journeyman Geek

They've deleted the post ;p

They might just nuke thr account

DavidPostill

Yep, account nuked.

@JourneymanGeek lol. His blog is all about cracked software ;)

Journeyman Geek

10:18

oh

In that case...

I didn't even bother to click

DavidPostill

Queen - Another One Bites the Dust (Official Video)

►

Journeyman Geek

lol

do we even want links to them on chat?

Indexed and all that ;p

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Please delete it ;)

Journeyman Geek

@RahulBasu did it for yer link too.

DavidPostill

thanks ...

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

10:44

I need to find my face

DavidPostill

@Caterina'Catty'McCatface Try looking in a mirror

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

Ah, found it

Rahul Basu

10:57

lol

@DavidPostill it's funny how he claims his website is DMCA Protected

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

My face is DMCA protected.

Rahul Basu

ah... I see...

DavidPostill

@Caterina'Catty'McCatface Only if you travel to the US or are inside a US embassy.

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

11:14

feministing.com/2010/05/03/…

Only in Australia...

djsmiley2k

12:08

wut o_O

Journeyman Geek

,_,

I just got a fair amount of upvotes for a trivial answer.

Wondering if I hit a HNQ

Speaking of which

1

A: SCSI-II to SCSI-III (and viceversa) compatibility

Be careful! Your question is (understandably) talking about SCSI, due to the connectors, but the MezIO-D220 card is not a SCSI HBA (it is a digital I/O module) and so any decisions made on the basis of SCSI compatibility are not applicable here :-( I also notice that you don't mention exactly w...

this is a scary awesome answer.

Guitar Shoe Dave

12:38

how about that imagemagick CVE..??? nice one huh @Bob?

imagetragick.com

Bob

oh, more fancy names

Guitar Shoe Dave

sucks that im having to disable uploads of pictures on my forums.

brb

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

12:58

@Bob Yeah

XKCD

autoexec code posted by verified twitter users

6

Bob

GOOMHR

That Brazilian Guy

13:16

@XKCD That's so atrocious it's almost beautiful

Journeyman Geek

13:27

Yup

HNQed again ._.

@ThatBrazilianGuy I've needed at least one of that before.

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek ...*at least* one of those?

Let me guess... CPU temperature and....

Journeyman Geek

I leave it as an exercise to the reader to work out which one it is...

That Brazilian Guy

OK, I give up

Journeyman Geek

(I kid, I kid)

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek is now known as @JourneymanCSAuthor

Journeyman Geek

13:29

@ThatBrazilianGuy ;p

I've never done CS ;p

That Brazilian Guy

I've... I've dropped out of uni. -_-''

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy happens.

That Brazilian Guy

Yeah. I know.

Journeyman Geek

(I did it twice ._.)

That Brazilian Guy

To be fair, the "analists" with "higher-education" are usually the clueless users or management-oriented types. A really talented colleague of mine gratuated recently and jokes constantly that now he can't work because he forgot everything.

Journeyman Geek

13:32

If you want to go back, make sure you're mentally ready

I had a rough time my third attempt but graduated

That Brazilian Guy

I've just signed up for the entrance exam for an IT course in an uni. It's an online course. Not that it's easier, it's just that there are no uni public courses that won't require full time, and can't afford private unis.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah

That's one nice thing about rivercorp and shifts.

In theory if I wanted to do another degree, scheduling for it shouldn't be implausible if I did it part time like my last one

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek rivercorp?

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy I have an interview with a company that's named after a river, a home of a spider, and what you have to do to a car every year or so.

That Brazilian Guy

NileNestReplace?

SanFranciscoForestPayInsurance?

Strange names for tech companies, indeed.

@JourneymanGeek If I wait until I'm mentally ready, then I'm never coming back =/

Journeyman Geek

13:42

I rushed my second time

I had some major issues at the time tho, personal life wise

That Brazilian Guy

Yeah, I had some too when I dropped out. Maybe not the single reason, but played a big role.

Anyways, I'm in a much better place now :)

Journeyman Geek

13:59

Yeah

And I couldn't get a job at all without a degree

Its marginally easier with one ;)

djsmiley2k

14:40

I found getting the 'degree class' jobs harder

but randomly drop that you've got a CS degree on other jobs, and they suddenly interested

tho uni was what, 8 yrs ago now

hardly feels relevent

Dave

Sorry to be a pain with a question. I have Windows 2012 Server, and when I go to jam-software.com/spamassassin it updates me to jam-software.de (the server is in Germany). My Region Settings all shows as set to UK, as does language

What else do I need to do?

Or is this something not to do with the COntrol Panel settings and some web trickery?

djsmiley2k

@Dave it may well be checking on many many things

geoip stuff is bad at best

whatismyip.com

what country it think you're in ?

jam-software.com/spamassassin/?language=EN

Dave

It thinks I'm in German

Germany

djsmiley2k

Also, hit that link for directly to the 'english' version

Dave

Which is where my server is

djsmiley2k

14:46

@Dave on the whatismyip.com site

Dave

I do @di

djsmiley2k

ah I see, well that explains it

Dave

I do @djsmiley2k and it automatically redirects me to www.jam-softare.de....

Bob

naughty webserver

djsmiley2k

ewww

Bob

14:46

trying to geoip

should be using Accept-Language header

but it probably isn't

Dave

yes, this is my guess as weell

I guess when it works it's great but when it doesn't it's a pain.

It also means when you click download, I can only download the duetsh/englisch version :(

Bob

download it locally and upload to the server

and send an angry email to the server operator

Dave

Yes, could do actually... tha'ts a great ida

idea

wait... what?? It's now doing it on my local P

C

PC

Is this coincidence, if you can following the link jam-software.com/spamassassin and click download (you get to a page, nothing downloads) are the options for German

I mean, is that the only thing they offer and I'm just getting confused

Sigh... I think it's that

Journeyman Geek

15:04

@Dave try jam-software.de/spamassassin/?language=EN

Bob

@Dave Yea, multilingual binaries.

Probably not a problem..?

allquixotic

15:25

YEEHAW

FiOS is being installed on my street \O/

Journeyman Geek

\^^/

Bob

O_O

Took them long enough!

ugh

attemptnig to play soase on my laptop... cursor's missing :S

Journeyman Geek

:O

Burgi

15:40

ended up buying a canon

Bob

watch where you point it

DavidPostill

lol

@bob grammarist.com/spelling/canon-cannon

Bob

@DavidPostill yea, I was gonna make a book/movie-canon joke but couldn't think of one

Burgi

we also went to pc world :S

Journeyman Geek

man

those are still around?

Burgi

15:48

in the UK yes

Journeyman Geek

I lived there for a bit ;p

Burgi

the staff were useless of course and only there to act as insurance sales people

@JourneymanGeek at pc world? ;)

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

!!caat

ChatBot John Cavil

Burgi

but it was useful to let my mother prod, poke and physically examine the printers

Journeyman Geek

15:51

@Burgi no, in the UK

;p

Burgi

i guessed, i was being facetious :)

i'll type up my observations for HWrecs later

Journeyman Geek

ahh

k

yeah

I tend to get my printers at the local equivilent of that

(though I think my canon's hitting 5+ years or so)

easily

engadget.com/2016/05/09/creative-wants-itc-bans-on-phone-makers

creative's a patent troll now :(

Burgi

basically:
hp - solid build but all the printers missed one or 2 requirements
epson - we skipped the aisle even though i tried to insist we at least look at them
brother - ticked all the boxes but the build quality felt flimsy and the display models looked shabby
samsung/other - poor selection and not enough models to make an informed choice
canon - solid, ticked all the boxes, looked surprisingly unprinterish but is a good way, slightly on the expensive side

Journeyman Geek

I think our current one's a pixma MX868

Old model, but we've typically had good experiences with them

My next printer has to have refillable ink tanks tho

Burgi

they had a £45 canon MFP which I would have bought if it were me that wanted a printer (i rarely print)

there was a hp laser MFP that was amazing, but the cost of the toner meant we skipped it

roughly £159 for a colour laser printer!

i'm fairly certain that if my mum was still working i could have convinced her to get one of the laser printers

djsmiley2k

16:20

much as the iPod supposedly duped Zen players a decade ago

Wow, I never realised that was an actual thing, as such just a thing I'd point out

PC world still sells old school style mouse pads

for like £8 each

oh, £3.99 on the webby, still terrible but not as bad as they were in store

Guitar Shoe Dave

16:54

love schooling our sysadmins

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

!!caat

ChatBot John Cavil

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

@GuitarShoeDave Do elaborate... I'm applying for a sysadmins job

Guitar Shoe Dave

sure

People complaining that a website is taking forever to load a page on a IIS server that connects to the same environment as the old..

the old has no issues which accesses the same exact database.

yet when i reproduce the same issue on the new.. the server responds with a redirect page for the page that doesnt have the same issue as the old.

when the redirect occurs.. the site never answers the request... it just sits there after the request is sent to the server.

socket open

ive ever attempted to change the referrer header to reissue the request (incase if the server's expecting a FQDN)

and it still just sits there.

told them its a configuration issue.

with either the customfieldlist.aspx page's datasource (potentially) or something misconfigured in the web.conf file if it inherits its connection strings from it.

im the dba

im not supposed to be doing this work.

But its been going on for weeks, so I was like whatever, ill do their work for them.

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

Hahaha

Guitar Shoe Dave

17:07

so yeah fun stuff.. I should teach classes on HTTP fundermentals.. teaching client / server responses... and how to manipulate and troubleshoot requests.

Its really not rocket science (then again, im sure you can agree)

i know @RahulBasu wants me to teach him some stuff... Maybe I could make a profit doing it.

i learned everything reading rfc's though.

off to lunch

:)

Burgi

17:21

would you do them as twitch or something?

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

Burgi wants to learn what?

tergiversation!

Burgi

not sure, more advanced SQL stuff would be interesting.

maybe it is something SE should consider doing. getting high rep community members to do basic video lessons over some sort of web meeting

the ones on the microsoft virtual academy are really good

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

18:01

Not really a good fit for a Q&A site

Burgi

they were doing that documentation thing iirc

Alexandre Vaillancourt

18:42

Hey I'm not sure if this is the 'right' place to ask; I'm having an issue connecting to a particular site (facebook). And it happened when I put a bunch of domains in my hosts file (windows; redirect to localhost) to prevent ads from showing in my browser. If I tracert facebook.com, it goes there: ad.doubleclick.net [127.0.0.1].

Why does the address resolve to localhost?

Burgi

so facebook is loading localhost?

just wondering why you aren't using a traditional ad blocker?

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@Burgi Apparently!

Hmm, well I find it simpler this way...

Burgi

is ad.doubleclick.net in your host file?

Alexandre Vaillancourt

Yes, it's the first one on the list. There was another one above that before, so I commented it out, but then the 'issue' transferred on the now first again.

Psycogeek

18:58

what does a ping do? how big is your list? is this on your own computer and your the only one setting up blocks ? or a work computer ? are there any normal resolves in the list or only blocking ones?

Alexandre Vaillancourt

C:\Windows\system32>ping facebook.com

Pinging facebook.com [127.0.0.1] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
Reply from 127.0.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128

Psycogeek

cool, I mean thats wrong :-) first assumption would be faceybook is in the list somewhere.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

There are 57 items on my hosts list
It's my office computer, I'm the only one using it, and I don't think there is anything fancy set up in there (network-wise).

facebook is not in the list...

I've commented out everything, I'll try to reboot to make sure it's still not working and that it's effectively that that makes it not work :S

brb

Psycogeek

next test is to revert back to a "stock" hosts. flush the dns , you do flush the dns? then test again. when working with hosts block it can help to disable (at least temporily) the "DNS Client" in windows services, which is the cache.

And given all the information , this would make an usable , and probably solvable question on the main site.

in a question you could provide a percentage of the Host list, which would include the Top stuff, and a few blocks below that. The output of the tracert. what happens when you actually try and visit there. and the entier router logs :-) ok maybe not that last one.

Guitar Shoe Dave

The other probable solution is that whomever is running your DNS services has added the facebook.com zone to it and set it to resolve to 127.0.0.1

what's your primary / secondary nameserver?

run->cmd.exe

type

nslookup

and then facebook.com

and paste the output

Example...

C:\Users\dt>nslookup
Default Server: pri.haveachallopa.net
Address: 2.3.4.5

> facebook.com
Server: pri.haveachallopa.net
Address: 2.3.4.5

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: facebook.com
Addresses: 66.220.156.68

my pri is pri.haveachallopa.net

Burgi

19:17

i would just install ABP...

Alexandre Vaillancourt

19:28

I'm back

Apparently, and I asked a colleague, they blocked facebook without telling us.

my hosts file is now empty and I still can't connect to it.

Psycogeek

Then i call you on your testing method , bad tester :-) test before, make changes, test after changes. Backup everything.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

In fact, I commented out everything in there, I just need to put everything back now.

Yeah, I should have done that basic test first.

Psycogeek

@Burgi and adblocker only works with a browser? what does one do if the browser itself needs to be blocked?

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@GuitarShoeDave It looks like the address for facebook is in fact 127.0.0.1...

@Burgi I think ABP slows down the browsing a bit, and I read/heard that it sometimes "forgets" to block "some" ads..?!

Guitar Shoe Dave

cool then it's being done by your provider.

its not you.

Burgi

19:37

@AlexandreVaillancourt that is an option in the plugin

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@GuitarShoeDave By my employer, yes :) It's not me. That's unfortunate, I would have needed facebook in the couple of next months... Oh well!

@Burgi I'll maybe reconsider, then!

Burgi

@AlexandreVaillancourt

Psycogeek

hosts blocking can also be "slow", the way microsoft systems load the hosts into the cache (or something) is some terribly stupid method. with the dns cache on a huge hosts list can slow the booting/initilising process down by minutes, not seconds. Therin the dns cache has to be turned off and one is back to getting DNS off the web each time, which is slow depending on how fast the web dns then is.

and depending on the browsers own dns caching , caches cache can , and more endless crasyness.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@Burgi Oh there seems to be a bunch of features in there!

@Psycogeek Can this be why it's slow to connect my laptop to the wifi?

Psycogeek

@AlexandreVaillancourt it happens when you have a huge list, like 1000 and more.

mine is like 9 megs now :-Phht

Alexandre Vaillancourt

19:53

Oh wow, ok, I'm not there yet :P<

Psycogeek

I can only assume (something like) windows transferring them like , onsies and twosies , and had no intention of (and has even said so) having it be a blocking list thing.

Alexandre Vaillancourt

@Psycogeek @Burgi @GuitarShoeDave Thank you all for the help provided!

Guitar Shoe Dave

np just busy over here

Burgi

any time

That Brazilian Guy

I shouldn't have to wait 7min for a docker image to download

Psycogeek

20:09

i heard that ISPs are now caching Speed tests, so now none of them mean anything :-)

That Brazilian Guy

Hmmm.

Psycogeek

(other than your speed to your isp, and your own equiptment to them)

@ThatBrazilianGuy how big is a docker image? you should be able to download a whole dvd in less than 7 minutes , assuming that speed was also provided by the server your getting it from, and through and round the world, and . . .

That Brazilian Guy

!!doge traffic,shaping

ChatBot John Cavil

     wow
                           such traffic
many shaping

Psycogeek

dont suppose wget does a 50 connection download? that is always an evil way to beat the heck out of servers, and walk on top of other poor users in the slow queue.

That Brazilian Guy

20:17

@Psycogeek This particular image I'm trying to get is 95 MB.

@Psycogeek What's a "50 connection download"?

Psycogeek

Dont quite know how it works, but a downloader that starts the download of files in 2 places, 2 connections to the server, each one pulling half the file.

95 megs isnt a reason to use it though.

That Brazilian Guy

> Wget does not support multiple socket connections in order to speed up download of files.

Canadian Luke

For speedtests lately, we've been generating 150MB files of randomness, then wget'ing them between servers

Burgi

i'm not sure if the racism in this game is meant ironically, is a bad translation or actually malicious

Psycogeek

there are 2 types of downloading that exist, 1 you wait for, watch it happen. the other doesnt matter if it takes 24 minutes or 24 hours, I am not watching/waiting for it :-)

By the time download type 2 comes in , i already have to mentally re-think what I was doing that for.

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