Root Access

mr enigma

02:40

jesus, idle for 3 hours

bwDraco

!!/tumbleweed

ChatBot John Cavil

mr enigma

02:59

why does windows have so much clutter

silly sample pop up boxes with buttons called button0 button1, etc

its full of that sort of thing

if youre just playing about like that, compile it to another file

bwDraco

03:54

61

A: How can I keep stray cats off my car?

Place a cardboard box next to your car. If science has told us anything, it is "if they fits, then they sits".

Bob

@allquixotic Heh. I remember ZoneAlarm on 98

Funnily enough: zonealarm.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-74814.html

2010!

HackToHell

05:29

@Bob LOL

Bob

My computer in pieces in front of me while I look up manuals on my phone -_-

Journeyman Geek

what happened?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek installing SSD, breaking RAID, shuffling drives

Journeyman Geek

ahh k

Bob

But I can't figure out which is sata1 and sata2

Stupid stacked ports

Journeyman Geek

05:35

lol

I think mine's like that too

mr enigma

.

Journeyman Geek

.. ..-. / -.-- --- ..- .----. .-. . / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / -.. --- / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . .-.-.- / -.. --- / .. - / .-. .. --. .... - --..--

HackToHell

svp-team.com/wiki/Download

o0

whats this

mr enigma

a hyperlink

Bob

06:05

Dammit. Where did I put that flash drive

ok, on laptop now cause phone typing sucks

that was a fast install... < 10 mins and already rebooting

USB 3.0 flash drive + SSD = O_O

@JourneymanGeek Turns out the mech keyboard does a very good job of crashing the BIOS

press Ctrl+I on the RAID prompt... stuck in B4 screen

press del on BIOS splash... stuck

press anything on Windows startup... stuck

I have to connect a different keyboard for any pre-Windows stuff -_-

Journeyman Geek

06:21

o0

mr enigma

oh I do love it when windows fails so much that you have to think... laterally

what sort of firmware does the bios have installed

Bob

Crap. No chipset drivers for win10

Journeyman Geek

My system is somewhat simpler but I've never had that issue

Bob

Is that even necessary anymore?

mr enigma

is it uefi or ahci

I dunno if I should get paypal or not

my parents paypal got hakd

I could just make a seperate bank account with like not much money in it

Rahul Basu

06:33

you only get hacked if you an easy password, or tell it to someone, or write it and leave it lying around or post it on the internet

mr enigma

their password was 6 letters and 4 numbers

Rahul Basu

I know someone who sent his complex paypal password to himself in an email but his email passwords was 'asdfgh123'

Go ahaed and sue paypal but they'll just prove that it was an user error

mr enigma

im sure there are other ways

Priya

07:09

Hello

I have some networking question about router and my apache

if its the right place to ask for?

Rahul Basu

Technically, you should ask over at serverfault

but go ahead, someone may be able to help you here...

Journeyman Geek

@Priya If its anything complicated and using home grade gear, SU. If its in a professional setting, serverfault. Tho, You can probably try it on us.

Priya

Thank you for helping, I am running a nodejs server for socket based connection

Journeyman Geek

We tend to discourage chat for extended stuff

Priya

my wifi router is there for using dhcp addresses

Rahul Basu

07:16

@JourneymanGeek but don't you encourage it for extended conversations? :P

Priya

when i am running a server over my laptops dhcp ip for the wifi, otgher devices cannot connetc

Journeyman Geek

oh

Priya

I shouldn't be asking here then?

Journeyman Geek

There's a setting that does that. AP isolation or something.

@Priya if it gets complicated, we'll point you to the main site ;p

Priya

In router i tried to configure using virtual server as well as port rerouting

but no success

Journeyman Geek

07:19

so. "Virtual server" and "port forwarding" are for outside systems getting in.

Does this work with ethernet?

Priya

yes its the wifi router configuartion

Journeyman Geek

is the server running on bare metal or a VM

sigh. They need to teach coders how to speak sysadmin/hardware geek ;)

Priya

server running in my desktop. not over VM

Journeyman Geek

Ok.

Priya

NP. i'll do a R&D. Thank You

Journeyman Geek

07:20

@Priya its more of a fundamental difference in the terms we use

a "consumer" router is really a switch + dhcp + router.

A good problem definition gives me all the information at once. I assumed you were running everything on your laptop

but yeah, look at your router and see if you can turn off AP isolation

Priya

server is running on a device whcih is connected to the router where all other devices are also connected. i want to access laptop ip using other devices. i thought as all devices are connected over same wifi router there is a possibility

Journeyman Geek

is the laptop over wireless?

Priya

yes all devices connected to wireless

Journeyman Geek

can they ping each other, other than the laptop?

What OS do they run?

(for that matter, can you ping the laptop?)

hi @DavidPostill

Priya

linux, windows

let me check

i can ping the wifi routers main ip from all devices

Journeyman Geek

07:25

yeah, else you'd have issues.

I'm more interested from the laptop to X and from X to the laptop.

Priya

i have tried pinging from both way and it shows 100% packet loss

Journeyman Geek

hm.

Yup. Check if there's AP isolation on the router somewhere. Turn it off. Try again.

Priya

Sure

Thank You for your assistance @JourneymanGeek

HackToHell

How does AP isolation work anyways

Is it simple iptables thingy

I turn it on when I have guests at home

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell I'm guessing that and a seperate ip range.

Might be vlans.

HackToHell

07:41

Yeah

Journeyman Geek

I have the option of a guest SSID

I don't really bother.

Rahul Basu

questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=887

Journeyman Geek

man, the art's improved a lot ;p

Rahul Basu

I haven't caught up with the recent ones yet...

I'm still in the early-2007 strips...

DavidPostill

hi @JourneymanGeek

HackToHell

07:50

@JourneymanGeek If I put DDWRT I get it

Journeyman Geek

(ie, I've never messed with it, and both approaches make sense ;p)

DavidPostill

@mrenigma ???

mr enigma

being a souse n'all

Journeyman Geek

@mrenigma No. No one here deals drugs. Ever. Except the ones that might. Who arn't going to talk about it.

mr enigma

that made absolutley no sense at all

Journeyman Geek

07:58

@mrenigma accusing people of dealing drugs cause of where there're from isn't funny

2

and in some instances, borderline offensive

DavidPostill

+1 ^^^

@mrenigma You are making no sense at all either ;)

bwDraco

Folks, please think before you post.

G'night.

DavidPostill

For what it's worth the only things I've ever dealt were packs of cards ;)

Journeyman Geek

card dealer

DavidPostill

So now you have something accurate to accuse me of ...

@JourneymanGeek Did I miss something? Or did that all come out of nowhere?

Journeyman Geek

08:06

That came out of nowhere

DavidPostill

Hmm. Weird

Journeyman Geek

I didn't even know you were liverpudian

DavidPostill

I did mention it in the past ;)

Bob

I'm back!

skill patrol

In black?

ACDC

DavidPostill

08:08

In front?

Journeyman Geek

Anyway, he's been ever so slightly annoying so I figured I'd get out the light attitude readjustment tool, and give him a small verbal tap ;p

skill patrol

:O

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek I noticed ;)

skill patrol

verbal abuse?

Journeyman Geek

We do not abuse >_>

skill patrol

08:10

@Bob wb

<_<

Journeyman Geek

08:22

@RahulBasu once you've caught up with QC. Tweep is good

Very similar, decent art. Kinda less edgy than QC ;p

Bob

> Kayboad_manual.pdf

Journeyman Geek

kay

Bob

boad

Journeyman Geek

boooooad

Clearly someone needed speeelcheeek

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Pulled the RAID off ports 1-2, stuck it on 3-4... it still works O_O

Journeyman Geek

08:30

hm.

Magic?

Bob

08:44

@JourneymanGeek More magical than Samsung anyway

Samsung Magician complains I'm not in AHCI mode -_-

Journeyman Geek

cause raid?

Tho magician thinks my old SSD isn't real ;p

mr enigma

09:02

lol why was I shushpended

Journeyman Geek

Cause someone flagged what you said, and someone else felt the flag was valid. Clearly.

I hope that lesson was learned

mr enigma

I dunno about the valid part

and I dont know if somebody even flagged it

Bob

@JourneymanGeek well, my SSDs aren't actually in RAID

But the controller is in RAID mode

But Samsung/Magician shouldn't care about that.

The fact that it does is stupid.

Journeyman Geek

Well, a kick would be a 30 second suspension. This seemed longer. And yeah. Totally valid flag IMO

mr enigma

I dont know why that is 'totally valid'

isnt there rules, not opinion

or do you just dislike me

Journeyman Geek

09:14

@Bob trim dosen't work with some RAID contriollers no?

mr enigma

cus I know how mods are, snarky and that

Bob

@JourneymanGeek In this case, Intel does AHCI passthrough afaik

Ramhound

...

Journeyman Geek

@mrenigma be nice is a rule. That was not nice.

Ramhound

THe moderators just "love" comments like "i know how mods are snarky and that"...

Journeyman Geek

09:16

Lol. Snarky? Only when they deserve it.

A suspension is not snark. Snark is pointed. Suspensions are blunt.

mr enigma

you said I was annoying

you degrade the "rules" you serve as any moderator does

Journeyman Geek

Statement of opinion. Involving something said on channel

If you feel I have abused my powers, you are free to complain.

mr enigma

ha ha ha

nah I wouldnt be so foolish

im not complaining just curious

skill patrol

think of it as an "enigma" ;-)

or a paranomasia

Bob

hm. I have an extra USB plug...

wonder what it's connected to

Ramhound

09:25

Can I complain about enigma? Don't say stuff that can be flagged, if you do that, you don't have to worry about being suspended from chat

Journeyman Geek

Note. Flags can be handled by any 10k user. I find this amusing cause I'm the bad guy for being transparent about where you went wrong.

Pretty much.

mr enigma

I didnt say you were bad, just indifferent

skill patrol

indifferent is good

DavidPostill

@mrenigma Please remember that anything you say in chat is public and scraped by Google.

skill patrol

^

mr enigma

09:28

yes, that's correct

^^ ^ ^ ^

^^^ ^^ ^^

Ramhound

@mrenigma - You are being rude to Journeyman, for a single reason, he is a moderator. Why?

mr enigma

no I'm not

Journeyman Geek

How so? I wanted to make it abundantly clear a specific behaviour was unwanted.

mr enigma

unwanted yeah

but not against the rules

Ramhound

I don't see the difference

Journeyman Geek

09:29

I'm here a lot and there is a certain channel culture I want to maintain.

mr enigma

well turn the telescope the other way around

Ramhound

if something is "unwanted" then I would say thats against the rules, rules are to stop, unwanted behavior.

mr enigma

so if I say anything you say is unwanted does that mean you're breaking the rules..

that sounds backward to me

Journeyman Geek

One rule. Be nice. Racism is not nice.

mr enigma

I wasnt racist

Ramhound

09:31

If I were a moderator, racism, would result in never seeing you again.

Just saying....

DavidPostill

Accusing someone of breaking the law is not nice.

mr enigma

you would see me again

I didnt say that

Journeyman Geek

Quite simply at least two people disagreed.

mr enigma

there are legal and illigal substances

if its such a democracy then why do we need moderators

"two people agreed"

Journeyman Geek

Meta that please.

Main preferably.

mr enigma

09:33

?

DavidPostill

@mrenigma I don't know of anywhere where dealing in heroin is legal. Hop is a synonym for heroin.

Rahul Basu

@mrenigma Just... take a break

Journeyman Geek

Post a question on mse about why chat needs mods if yet unhappy with it.

mr enigma

not quite @DavidPostill

@journeyman im fine with it

Ramhound

Much better....(I just ignored him)

mr enigma

09:35

that was rude

Journeyman Geek

Clearly not. You keep arguing about it. So yeah.

mr enigma

im stating how it is

DavidPostill

I wonder who just cast the flag ...

mr enigma

flags are anonymous

thats what I'm sayin

as are policemen, judges, army generals, etc

am I right?

Journeyman Geek

If you don't like it you can go elsewhere.

2

mr enigma

09:43

I didnt say I disliked it.

and considering IRC chat is utter crap, im fine

Journeyman Geek

In that case you'll have to put up with some degree of moderation.

mr enigma

Ive seen worse

Journeyman Geek

Anyway

@Bob magician is pretty terrible. Except when it isn't. Its just useful enough to keep, some of the time ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Nah, it's just plain terrible.

I've complained about it before.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob yet its worth keeping installed in many cases

Bob

09:56

@JourneymanGeek I haven't found any yet! :P

Journeyman Geek

oh

I'm pretty sure windows 10 removed the battery management software from my x220, and the battery life dropped to 5 minutes.

I need to see if reinstalling helps but I keep forgetting ;p

or if I need a new battery

@Bob I use it for setting 'spare' space and such I suppose

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I don't even bother with that.

Journeyman Geek

then meh

no need I guess ? ;p

Rahul Basu

Turns out that cyber security internship i signed up for is actually on cyber security law :/

with en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavan_Duggal

so i guess ill do it anyway...

Journeyman Geek

@RahulBasu its also pretty interesting

Rahul Basu

10:08

I guess I'll have to know the laws if i ever get into pentesting... ;)

god, his website takes ages to load...

pavanduggal.net

not bad...

Journeyman Geek

@RahulBasu if you need some (outdated) book recommendations, let me know ;p

Rahul Basu

@JourneymanGeek yes please... ;)

skill patrol

Wow!!! @JourneymanGeek tough love

mr enigma

hey why did you suspend me again for no reason

skill patrol

you can't force people to respect your so called "culture" pal

take a break @mrenigma

mr enigma

10:24

I just have took a break

skill patrol

mod=god

Bob

You do realise the suspensions were automatic from flags + other users approving?

mr enigma

next time I might not bother

Journeyman Geek

@mrenigma I'm not sure that helped.

Bob

They had nothing to do with mods or JMG...

mr enigma

10:24

well thats just stupid

and I don't care for anyones opinions

skill patrol

god=mod

let it go @mrenigma

mr enigma

why would I do that

skill patrol

because it's not worth it

mr enigma

works both ways.

skill patrol

Think about it

mr enigma

10:27

why dont they let it go

skill patrol

Because mod=god

mr enigma

and then I will

skill patrol

Live to fight another day.

mr enigma

10:42

heres whats gonna happnen, whoever is suspending me. You're gonna stop that, Or im gonna frame somebody elses account for posting repulsive content. By the time that user is caught there will be no enigma as to who suspended it, no-one will wonder who did it or how clever you are.

I GTG.

Journeyman Geek

Man.

ArtOfCode

well that's a new one

Journeyman Geek

Hi @ArtOfCode

Its handled.

And yeah, that's a new one.

ArtOfCode

welp, gotta have something to keep the days interesting

Journeyman Geek

Maybe.

DavidPostill

10:47

I still don't understand where it all came from ...

One of life's mysteries ...

Journeyman Geek

quite

And TBH, stuff like that's the worst part of chat moderation.

Journeyman Geek

11:15

(and the fact that it kills of conversation for a whole)

!!tumbleweed

ChatBot John Cavil

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Oh, if you're talking about that last one, that was me.

I don't like threats.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob flag wasn't needed.

Bob

Actually, that might be my first use of the flag, ever, in chat.

Journeyman Geek

and entirely appropriate

I mean the actual threat and needing to use the big stick.

I'm pretty sure multiple folk have flagged that guy, and whatever he got was entirely appropriate.

Bob

11:19

@JourneymanGeek If I wasn't in the middle of something I might've considered the standard warn+kickmute

though tbh we're well past warnings already

Journeyman Geek

Besides, I've got a bias towards people who have productive conversations

da

I agree

Bob

Ok. Windows 10 on SSD seems stable.

VS2015Pro is taking forever to install

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

I should test AotS and see how much it has improved :P

Gah... need to update graphics drivers

But latest is still 364.72

Journeyman Geek

Nvidia?

I'm running that ;p

Bob

11:23

Hm. Might as well.

Journeyman Geek

Living dangerously yo.

Bob

Could give me an excuse for a new GPU.

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

> Version: 364.72 WHQL

> File Size: 346.32 MB

Journeyman Geek

@Bob almost. tho ;p

Bob

11:34

The icon for executables in Win10 confuses me -_-

Journeyman Geek

0_0

the blue >_ symbol?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ya

There was no blue in 7 :P

Or 8 iirc

@JourneymanGeek Wait, >_?

DavidPostill

@Bob ???

Bob

Wait a sec.

Trying to grab a screenshot but I don't have Snagit installed yet -_-

Journeyman Geek

I seem to remember that's what it looked like ;p

@Bob could always use the built in tool ;p

Bob

11:46

@JourneymanGeek ?

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

Using your first flag always hurts the most :P @Bob

Journeyman Geek

for screenshots

Ok, now I'm confused. @skillpatrol and @Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ ?

Bob

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Bob

Pretty sure the blue wasn't there in win7

@JourneymanGeek I had to install snagit anyway, this was a good reminder

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

11:50

But don't make the mistake of trying to gang up on him, that can get ugly really fast just look what happened in the Scifi chatroom.

Journeyman Geek

@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ heh. Really?

I really don't think people should mistake being nice with being weak

Bob

Longer focal length = further distance from you and bear. the Nikkor 800mm is only $16k at B&H. What price for your life? =) — scottbb 21 hours ago

Journeyman Geek

@Bob the bear/camera? ;p

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

Let him cool down.

Journeyman Geek

Sure.

Bob

11:52

@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ He can do so. But if he's going to make inflammatory remarks in here, the consequence is obvious.

Journeyman Geek

@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ We try to treat people with a certain degree of respect, its the room culture. We really prefer to be laid back, and talk about stuff that matter. Like Taylor Swift.

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

just don't respond

Journeyman Geek

@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ that's pretty hard.

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

I know, but it's the best way.

Journeyman Geek

And in some cases, engagement helped

We have a slightly troublesome user who's ok now.

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

11:55

Ignore works in ALL cases.

Journeyman Geek

I'm a mod ;p

I need to keep an eye on things

and not everyone would do that anyway

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

Then just watch.

DavidPostill

@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ Some things cannot be ignored.

Sᴋᴜʟʟ ᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ

Step in at the last minute.

Jester Tran

URGENT: need help with BFS algorithm

DavidPostill

11:57

@JesterTran Probably not the right place to ask.

Jester Tran

Breadth First Search

Bob

@Sᴋᴜʟʟᴘᴇᴛʀᴏʟ There is no universal "best way". Sometimes, people respond better to warnings/reminders.

In any case, my goal here is to make sure the majority feel welcome.

If one person starts making threats, that person needs to go.

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