Root Access

12:53 AM

in windows 7 can you configure network services/clients/protocols by what the subnet is or is it just for in general

assuming the subnet mask has at least 2 networks

or is that windows server/router firmware territory

I guess windows can make a load of local area network connections for the same adapter but thats a bit clunky if you have many subnets

Michael Frank

1:15 AM

Whooooops... Opened a shared calendar mailbox in my outlook... 409 reminders and counting. D:

Bob

@CMDEmu You're going to have to be more specific about what you want to configure.

Listening services can be bound to a specific IP address.

Some things can only be configured per-interface.

CMDEmu

if control panel>network connections you can add/remove/configure network services

Journeyman Geek

setup wizard is being hillarious for really short form fiction

"Zero computer experience. Zero server experience. I doubt the man has ever used a light switch. This is the newest face of wizards in the IT world. Today I caught him trying verbally input an email into MS Paint. It took every fiber of my being not to tell him that he had to draw a little owl with the paintbrush tool to make it work."

CMDEmu

such as QOS, MSMQ, netbios etc

Bob

@Caterina'Catty'McCatface HTC 10 is interesting... and warranty apparently covers bootloader unlocks.

Never used an HTC phone before.

@CMDEmu Those are interfaces. Anything you change there is probably per-interface.

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

1:26 AM

I've had one and lived with one

CMDEmu

yes, but what if you only wanted one thing on a certain subnet and not the other

thing as in configuration

Bob

@Caterina'Catty'McCatface How was it? Which was it? :P

@CMDEmu Then you'd set up a new interface, I suppose.

1

Q: Multiple network interfaces on a single NIC in Windows

Here's the scenario: Lets say we have a wireless network that imposes bandwidth limit on IP addresses(ie every IP address has limited bandwidth). To get around this, we can obtain several IP addresses from the access point, but the problem is that Windows by default uses the first IP address for...

Oh wait those answers are shit.

Maybe this?

4

Q: Any way to make a virtual bridged network adapter in windows? Like VMware has?

is there any way to make a virtual network adapter in windows (that has its own mac address, and lets me bridge it to another connection? So in the end, it'll be like another physical connection that's connected to its own internet.) I noticed VMware connects its virtual OS to the internet by cr...

windows networking virtualization bridge

CMDEmu

thanks

Bob

I wonder if you could add the MS loopback adapter and bridge that to the primary/physical one.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob HTC's unlocking process is pretty simple.

and yeah, I'm liking what I see about it

and HTC's hardware tends to be really good

their software tends to be shit

Bob

1:35 AM

lol

Well, I'm stuck with the S7 Edge for at least another year

It's looking like it'll be at least decent, so meh.

As long as I don't need the warranty for anything.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Canadian Luke

2:14 AM

Anyone knowledgeable on systemd? My server is not booting up right now to a normal working configuration...

Bob

I know enough to break it, if that counts

CMDEmu

then you know enough

Canadian Luke

rm -rf / isn't what I'm after ;-)

I'm trying to boot off an old kernel for now... Waiting for a system file check to finish

CMDEmu

as long as you subtly break it

Canadian Luke

It starts booting, then goes into the maintenance prompt. I type in the root password, but only my root partition is there. mdadm doesn't even see the array, even though the drives are OK. I can't start any services (error that comes up simply says Hangup)

OK, it starts in the old mode, same kernel... SysInit I think it's called?

Bob

2:23 AM

@CanadianLuke Is it your root partition or just the initramfs?

Canadian Luke

It loaded bash, including my custom coloured prompt

I need to figure out now what caused it to break... It's working now, but with some other mode

Bob

Hm.

CMDEmu

woow grep is so useful

Canadian Luke

How can I find out what command line was used to boot the current system? Then I can set that as the default in the boot menu

oldmud0

out of luck I found an old MS-DOS computer, with green monitor and all, turned on in a restaurant

Bob

2:28 AM

@CanadianLuke Uhm. Wouldn't it be whatever the bootloader passes in?

14

Q: How do I check the current boot parameter list in Linux?

During test, I sometimes add/change boot parameters to /boot/grub/menu.lst (suse), or at the grub screen during boot. How do I check what boot parameters have been used after the system is done booting?

linux boot grub

/proc/cmdline

Canadian Luke

... The system is running and I can access all of its services. I don't remember which of the 6 options I chose, I just know I didn't pick the first one (default)

Bob

or in dmesg

Canadian Luke

OK thanks

Bob

@oldmud0 that's probably their server

Canadian Luke

BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=bc0685f1-638a-4c9e-bd86-4c2c971c518f ro quiet init=/lib/sysvinit/init

So it's using the new kernel, but not liking systemd

oldmud0

2:30 AM

Canadian Luke

@oldmud0 Is that truly DOS?

oldmud0

yes, yes it is

you can see the dir/w listing

let me see if I can upload a larger version

Michael Frank

Does that PC have a Turbo button?!

oldmud0

I couldn't get close enough to it, but it looks like it was too old to have one

It was an HP computer, I can tell you that

There's a higher res version.

Journeyman Geek

hmm

intel inside logo

oldmud0

2:35 AM

And it looks like it has two sizes for floppy disks

Journeyman Geek

which is wierd

would indicate its from at least 2001

er

1991

oldmud0

lol 2001

prob from 80s

if it makes any difference to you, this was a chinese restaurant

Journeyman Geek

hmm

286 or 386 might run dos

the monochrome screen is an oddity I grant

oldmud0

although it does use a recent dell keyboard

with the numpad 1 and 0 buttons labeled "IN" and "OUT"

Journeyman Geek

hmm

timeclock maybe?

oldmud0

2:38 AM

loll

Psycogeek

that is so insecure , imagine all the people who could ransomware DOS :-) all the viruses that could spread over BBS

oldmud0

RTC would be dead on the PC by then

Journeyman Geek

the battery is a simple fix

oldmud0

@Psycogeek ehh you've clearly been watching too much danooct lol

Journeyman Geek

and you don't really need the RTC powered if its on

CMDEmu

2:40 AM

I saw a windows 98 computer at a hospital today

oldmud0

I also went to a radio station today because they wanted my help.

Clearly, they needed it.

The guy who showed us how to work the controls (I wasn't the only one there), I ended up teaching him a bit about the controls on the board.

No idea if we're supposed to be able to volunteer without first doing some sort of required reading on critical FCC regulations like dead air or repeated commercials.

Canadian Luke

3:03 AM

No logs from when it wasn't booting right :-(

I wish I knew what messed up on it

Bob

3:17 AM

@CanadianLuke Boot with quiet off

And check dmesg from within the booted environment

I still suspect it never mounted the rootfs and it was just within the initramfs...

CMDEmu

ive ate so much junk today

im probably dead

bwDraco

lol

Canadian Luke

@Bob Normally, I'd agree with you. But it mounted my / and /var, just not my big RAID10. It had my root's CUSTOM bash shell loaded

But it definitely wasn't initfamfs

Michael Frank

3:39 AM

stuff.co.nz/world/americas/78855050/…

Uhh.... Weirdest story ever?

CMDEmu

3:53 AM

I still am getting crackly audio on any web browser

and it slows the video down too

like fricking slow motion

yet nobody seems to be able to help

so, do I shoot the computer, or not

its a codec/driver problem I think.

ive asked on the main site

and ive asked here before

XKCD

There was a schism in 2007, when a sect advocating OpenOffice created a fork of Sunday.xlsx and maintained it independently for several months. The efforts to reconcile the conflicting schedules led to the reinvention, within the cells of the spreadsheet, of modern version control.

Michael Frank

@XKCD We get this ALL the time at work. "Hey, our spreadsheet stopped working and the person they created it left the company 9 months ago. Can you fix it? IT'S REALLY CRITICAL TO BUSINESS!"

Canadian Luke

... So true

And I'm kinda glad I was able to add that feed

Psycogeek

4:20 AM

@CMDEmu where is the question ?

Journeyman Geek

lol

@CMDEmu yes

Michael Frank

@Psycogeek It must have been deleted, cause there isn't one listed.

CMDEmu

I think I deleted it

I just got told to use another browser

Psycogeek

so it only ever happens in the browser? And if it "started" happening in the browser did you ever test a simple player (not in browser) at that same moment?

CMDEmu

it is fine in music player applications

just not in any web browser

it happnes somewhat ramdomly in the browser

Psycogeek

4:25 AM

browsers usually call up much of the same stuff to play as anything else, even most streaming is buffered such that it would not have those specific symptoms.

CMDEmu

my bandwidth is fine

and even if it wasnt it wouldnt explain such crappy quality

it is rediculoustly bad

Michael Frank

@CMDEmu That's not what he's suggesting, and probably why you're not getting any good answers.

CMDEmu

ive tested a simple player

by opening a file from my music folder

Psycogeek

@CMDEmu and have you done that after, or while at the same time the AV in the browser is still failing?

CMDEmu

just after

playing them at the same time isnt a good idea

Psycogeek

4:30 AM

what browser? and does it clear up if you close all instances of said browser , and restart it playing the same things?

CMDEmu

how would I know which is crackly and which isnt

yes ive tried resetting firefox and clearing my cookies, etc

and closing it

Psycogeek

@CMDEmu playing at the same time is great test, to have (say) a movie playing non-stop in the corner of the screen, then to observe this failing in the browser Only.

If you cant already have 4-8 videos playing at once :-) then it may not have anything to do with a browser. There are some players and codec piles that are just wrong.

probably about 4 recent Qs on SU about a player taking 100% cpu, that is crasy when here given a few tweaks and no GPU assistance a video should take about 3% (3% of 4 cores)

CMDEmu

only the browser is doing it

ive ran both at the same time

Psycogeek

and what is the play method it is using ? is it "flash" then?

CMDEmu

in the browser, yes

ive tried reinstalling flash

Psycogeek

4:37 AM

and does your codec piles include FFshow stuff ? And /or where did you get your codecs you installed

CMDEmu

how do I check that

device manager?

Psycogeek

install of that kind of codec "filters" is usually shown in the startmenu stuff , as are many other codec stuffs that the users installed.

AutoRuns will also give you a view of all the codecs mess that is installed, but that aspect of it is anything but intuitive to the user.

CMDEmu

nothing in the start menu

Psycogeek

as a completely different thing there is checking the "latency" stuff with a latency tester, but if it is surely only ever in a browser, or via flash , then only that would change anything.

CMDEmu

there is nothing called ffshow in autoruns > codecs

Psycogeek

4:44 AM

flash can potentially be run outside of the browser, that would make an interesting test, but i only know how to do that with those games.

linuxtotal

does anybody knows what hosting company is the one from the sysadmin who deleted all servers, including backup servers?

9

Q: Recovering from a rm -rf /

I run a small hosting provider with more or less 1535 customers and I use Ansible to automate some operations to be run on all servers. Last night I accidentally ran, on all servers, a Bash script with a rm -rf {foo}/{bar} with those variables undefined due to a bug in the code above this line. ...

centos7 data-recovery

Psycogeek

if somehow you could prove that flash was able to play in a different browser, or outside of a browser, your then down to tweaking firefox itself.

CMDEmu

well I tried chrome and firefox

IE doesnt have flash

Psycogeek

@linuxtotal yes they know but decided not to reveal the info any further , as a kindness to a person who already has more problems than they need.

2

CMDEmu

and I uninstalled it anyhow

can I delete the codecs that are highlighted pink in autoruns

Psycogeek

4:49 AM

@CMDEmu yea what does pink mean file not found or something?

CMDEmu

yes

Psycogeek

and which items , could be you discovered something?

linuxtotal

thanks Psycogeek

CMDEmu

uploading the log now

Psycogeek

I know some codec packs do not completly undo the things they have done, and users have reported (more than once) that even after removal of a codec pack something got changed and did not change back after uninstall. Beyond that people tend towards the easy fix of "rollback" using system restore, and it can do the same, where stuff is not completely returned (parts and pieces).

CMDEmu

4:55 AM

pastebin.com/VCf7cPnj

Psycogeek

2 things I do , i never have that issue, Full clone backup (never system restore) and a uninstaller (friggen manuel) so i know what happens, and believe me when i say, shit you dont want to see, or know how screwed up some thing get :-)

CMDEmu

are you saying reinstall the whole OS

Psycogeek

@CMDEmu no, let me look (i hate logs) at the most a "repair" install then rechecking the updates.

Now i have to know what OS it is

CMDEmu

will a repair install delete my programs

its windows 7

Psycogeek

@CMDEmu no repair install is the last alternative after a SFC /scannow kind of thing will not fix stuff. it does a "lapped" install.

CMDEmu

5:00 AM

ok and will it keep my drivers

for networking etc

ok ill try a repair install then, soon

i gtg now thanks

its very late

Psycogeek

@CMDEmu as best as it can, it fixes the OS system junk sort of only. drivers and your own software and own files are not part of that. Also . . .

Remember that using add/remove windows features , will re-link (hard link) any item that can be "turnd on and turned off"

because the component store is protected heavily , things that can be turned on and turned off will be replaced back mostly the same way it was.

you still should backup (clone/mirror) , even a broken system prior to doing a repair install, because one wrong move , and you end up with a fresh install. at least one would want to secure thier user files.

CMDEmu

5:16 AM

sigh the thing is though, and this will sound like an I just dont have the time

sound lik

e an excuse

fuck this phone!!

Boris_yo

@DavidPostill Didn't know about this plugin. It's old though and I don't see it supports shortcut keys. Looks like I will have to manually do that navigation, scrolling and clicking each time I need to use its functions? Here's plugin's home page: textfx.no-ip.com/textfx/index.htm

How to make sure "harrymc" and "Tom Yan" get equal share of bounty? superuser.com/questions/1052378/…

Psycogeek

@CMDEmu I dont see anything hugely wrong or related in this log, just some stuff that didnt completely uninstall ? and it isnt the whole log?

could be your autoruns view gets limited ?? via the options and User stuff.

@Boris_yo there is no way that i know of to split bounty, you give it to the one who spent the most effort, solved the actual problem, or needs it the most :-) cause harry doesnt really need it does he, but you could give Praises. Also you could re-bounty it again, and pass out more of your rep.

Which is more valuable 100 rep points , or Thanks for the help that helped me to solve the problem and a beer ?

Journeyman Geek

5:36 AM

@Boris_yo you can't

Give it to Tom Yan tho ;p

his answer seems better

Psycogeek

6:14 AM

1

Q: Windows-7 Task Scheduler Wakes computer from sleep 16 minutes after the scheduled time

I have the following sequence of tasks scheduled in my Windows-7. At 5:06 AM, hibernate the computer by running the command "rundll32.exe powrprof.dll,SetSuspendState 0,0,0" At 5:30 AM, run a 'task A'. This 'task A' has the "Wake the computer to run this task" enabled. However, today, the tas...

windows-7 hibernate task-scheduler scheduling windows-task-scheduler

Snooze Button :-)

Bob

7:07 AM

@JourneymanGeek I have entirely too many programs open :P

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

Guess the programs! :P

Michael Frank

Why Notepad++ AND Notepad? o.O

Journeyman Geek

also,ewww wmp

Michael Frank

To be fair, it isn't open.

He's obviously just too lazy to unpin it.

...right?

Bob

7:30 AM

That should tell you how much I use it :P

@MichaelFrank Cause I forgot to close Notepad++

I don't like Notepad++ much these days

Journeyman Geek

New headphones are in

Bob

@JourneymanGeek \o/

Do they perform as well as the old ones? :P

Journeyman Geek

8:08 AM

@Bob not tested it yet

had some other things going on

Journeyman Geek

9:56 AM

@Bob pretty much

needs to loosen up a little tho

funny thing

the delivery was in a bag from another headphone store. The one I got the original one from....

and they didn't have that model listed on their website ;p

Journeyman Geek

10:32 AM

wierdly. I'm not picking up the noise I was before.

Which makes no sense.

Bob

12:25 PM

@JourneymanGeek noise? O.o

Journeyman Geek

@Bob the ground hum

But I'm using the same cable from the old headphones ._.

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

!!caat

ChatBot John Cavil

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

!!learn plane <>http://i.imgur.com/IvHTZGe.png

ChatBot John Cavil

@Caterina'Catty'McCatface Command plane learned

Hennes

12:33 PM

oh, my blue yeti arrives today, between half an hours ago and 3 more hours

How can I remove the nvidia tag from this question ?

73 more question to go till the tags is cleaned, so probably somewhere this week. :)

Guitar Shoe Dave

!!learn hr <>http://www.coolgraphiclinks.com/divider-bars/very.gif

ChatBot John Cavil

@GuitarShoeDave Command hr learned

Guitar Shoe Dave

!!hr

ChatBot John Cavil

Guitar Shoe Dave

!!learn trololol <>http://i52.tinypic.com/29gcxfr.jpg

ChatBot John Cavil

12:41 PM

@GuitarShoeDave Command trololol learned

Guitar Shoe Dave

!!trololol

ChatBot John Cavil

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

!!plane

ChatBot John Cavil

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

That's not what I wanted

I am on a plane

Oh well

Guitar Shoe Dave

12:46 PM

making an animated gif real quick this is a good one..

!!learn imonaboat <>http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/4-13-2016/yFSOl6.gif

ChatBot John Cavil

@GuitarShoeDave Command imonaboat learned

!!imonaboat

!!unlearn imonaboat

@GuitarShoeDave That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: learn

Guitar Shoe Dave

12:54 PM

!!delete imonaboat

ChatBot John Cavil

@GuitarShoeDave That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Guitar Shoe Dave

!!/help

ChatBot John Cavil

@GuitarShoeDave Information on interacting with me can be found at this page

djsmiley2k

BoatyMcBoatface

Guitar Shoe Dave

!!forget imonaboat

ChatBot John Cavil

12:55 PM

@GuitarShoeDave Command imonaboat forgotten.

Guitar Shoe Dave

!!learn imonaboat <>https://i2.imgflip.com/12fhlr.gif

ChatBot John Cavil

@GuitarShoeDave Command imonaboat learned

!!imonaboat

p

1:02 PM

!!afk brb grammas house on fire.

DavidPostill

@GuitarShoeDave Oh dear. Hope she's OK.

Guitar Shoe Dave

@DavidPostill: Just testing out the !!afk command according to github.com/Zirak/SO-ChatBot/wiki/Commands

Looks like @OliverSalzburg added me all over the page lol :(

/afk brb grammas house on fire

DavidPostill

@GuitarShoeDave ???

Guitar Shoe Dave

@DavidPostill granted I changed my name.

DavidPostill

@GuitarShoeDave All over what page?

Guitar Shoe Dave

1:11 PM

The commands page. For the command examples

Dave: !!afk hurricane
[...some time passes...]
Alice: @Dave Did you survive?
Bot: @Alice Dave is afk: hurricane.

etc..

Journeyman Geek

I find the nick hillarious

especially since the other dave was the one with guitar

@Caterina'Catty'McCatface GUPPY!

DavidPostill

@GuitarShoeDave Ah. "This wiki assumes (for demonstration purposes) that your username is Dave, your user-id is 5318008 and the message you sent has an id of 42." has always been there. Check the revisions ;)

Guitar Shoe Dave

Then i must be retarded.

Thank you for that.

=)

Guitar Shoe Dave

1:26 PM

Dot Net Vs JAVA Funniest Video Ever Must Watch)

►

@allquixotic ^

Journeyman Geek

Man, is that old enough to drink? ;p

Guitar Shoe Dave

It was either that video or the "Hitler uses git" video

Journeyman Geek

amusingly, .net will run on other OSes soon

Guitar Shoe Dave

Agreed must really suck for the mono project

Journeyman Geek

MS bought over xamarin

who IIRC do a lot of that

Guitar Shoe Dave

1:29 PM

Interesting

Guitar Shoe Dave

2:00 PM

Wow this is soo mean gfycat.com/InfamousDefenselessGrebe but funny

Journeyman Geek

eeeeeeeviiiilllll

Journeyman Geek

2:14 PM

I'm pretty close to repcapping a third day in a row on SF ._.

Bob

2:41 PM

!!tumbleweed

ChatBot John Cavil

Journeyman Geek

3:05 PM

@Bob I also realised that my old ear cups had gotten all soft and mushy

the new ones fit better

Bob

lol

Journeyman Geek

also pondering shortening one cable.

Not decided if I should make em 3.5mm or 1/4 inch tho

I actually use that one on 1/4 inch more, but 3.5mm -> quarter inch converters are easier

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Why not 3.5 mm, you can buy a converter ...

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill cause I hardly ever use that on 3.5mm, and when I do, a longer cable is handier ;p

those headphones are mostly used through my desktop amp, which is 1/4 inch

or just leave it alone, cause it works ;p

Oliver Salzburg

3:24 PM

@GuitarShoeDave I only made a small change to that page

Guitar Shoe Dave

@OliverSalzburg: Yeah, well @DavidPostill gave me the information i needed. Also, how's it going? :)

Bob

2

Journeyman Geek

._.

what does the fox ~~say~~ see?

Bob

@Caterina'Catty'McCatface S7 doesn't seem to show battery level of Bluetooth devices :(

G4 did

DavidPostill

Ylvis - The Fox (What Does The Fox Say?) [Official music video HD]

►

Bob

3:33 PM

Also it doesn't seem to do absolute volume despite being Android 6.0.1

Disappointing BT support

DavidPostill

The Fox (What Does the Fox Say?)

"The Fox (What Does the Fox Say?)" is an electronic dance novelty song and viral video by Norwegian comedy duo Ylvis. The top trending video of 2013 on YouTube, "The Fox" was posted on the video-sharing website on 3 September 2013, and has received over 580 million views as of February 2016. "The Fox" peaked at the top of the Norwegian Singles Chart and was hugely successful in the United States, where it peaked at number six on the Billboard Hot 100 for three consecutive weeks, and was before the US release of "Am I Wrong" by Nico & Vinz, the highest-ranked song by a Norwegian artist on the chart...

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

Fail.

I get to use the airport lounge in Aberdeen but not London.

Bob

!!tell 28983314 foxno

ChatBot John Cavil

DavidPostill

BT support in the UK is well known for being disappointing ;)

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

3:34 PM

I had 30 minutes to wait in Aberdeen and a 3 hour wait in London.

Also, pay £40 and get top priority boarding. Pay £400 and get lowest priority boarding. Makes sense.

DavidPostill

@Caterina'Catty'McCatface Airline?

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

@DavidPostill British Airgays

They have got to have the weirdest and most confusing pricing structure of all time.

Also I think the vibration motor may be loose in my phone.

Bob

3:58 PM

@Caterina'Catty'McCatface o.O

@allquixotic open.spotify.com/track/5iiFtgD5h05fDkic7bgE0P

Guitar Shoe Dave

Kid loves his cookies :'(

DavidPostill

@GuitarShoeDave I thought that was you ;)

Guitar Shoe Dave

he's such a great kid

Oliver Salzburg

4:40 PM

@GuitarShoeDave I'm currently working on moving our platform to a message-based architecture to allow us to scale. It's fun! :D

Guitar Shoe Dave

Oh joy, I love migrations.. Too bad 98% of the time someone misses something.

Fact: Migrations are never perfect. =(

Bob

They're always perfect(ly faulty)! :P

Guitar Shoe Dave

github.com/mozilla/tofino

Mozilla's new browser based off of chrome

Bob

5:07 PM

@GuitarShoeDave don't know where you got "based off chrome" from

Guitar Shoe Dave

Do you read slashdot?

Bob

Looks more like ux experiments than a full browser to me

Guitar Shoe Dave

news.slashdot.org/story/16/04/12/2025215/… check it outs my friend.

Bob

And I see exactly zero references to Blink, WebKit or Chrome

@GuitarShoeDave Yea, no, that's just plain bullshit.

"An anonymous reader writes"

cough credibility cough

If you actually read the comments on the Slashdot page they agree too...

> Pure FUD and bad journalism.

> If you actually read the "Project Tofino" page, all they're doing it using Electron to much around with user-interface experiments

...that's exactly what I said.

Electron is based on Blink, but it's also basically a cheap way to get a renderer up on Node.js.

Guitar Shoe Dave

We'll that's essentially over my head.

Bob

5:12 PM

A full browser built on Node for general use is an interesting thought, and also highly unlikely.

For UX experiments, sure. For actual use, I suspect it's gonna be slow. Very slow.

@GuitarShoeDave Simply: whoever wrote that bit up the top has no idea what they're talking about either.

They've either completely missed the point of Mozilla's post, or they're maliciously spreading misinformation.

Either way, it's flat out wrong.

CMDEmu

wot, theres sgml and html !?

Guitar Shoe Dave

"YouTube Content Creator @BeauHD | Video Producer @PhoneDog | Full-time Editor @Slashdot | Business inquiries: HowToAndMore@gmail.com"

Bob

Oh look, it refers to a The Register article. Which is about as accurate as most mainstream media is with tech.

Read one line of some blog post, make up a couple paragraphs of incorrect gibberish, article done.

Guitar Shoe Dave

lol

DavidPostill

@Bob The only true bits of The Register are to be found at BOFH ;)

Bob

5:22 PM

Seriously, though.

This BS that I refuse to even link: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/11/future_of_firefox_is_chrome/

This is one of the worst I've seen. They can't even cherry-pick the quotes properly!

DavidPostill

@Bob Browsers, Innovators Dilemma, and Project Tofino: "update 08/04: I should have been clearer that Project Tofino is wholly focused on UX explorations and not the technology platform." which El Reg did manage to include ~~at the bottom~~ in the middle of their scaremongering page.

Bob

@DavidPostill Yea. Include with a healthy helping of mentions of "tension" and "That update led to more hand-wringing and shouting and more explanations, which in their own way, only serve to reinforce May's point about argument and what's gone before slowing innovation."

> Just two days after Mayo broke ranks, Mozilla's CTO jumped up and announced another new project – this one called Positron (geddit?) – which will take the Electron API and "wrap it around Gecko." Or, in other words, make it possible to take Mayo's new, better browser and pull it off Chromium and back into the safe hands of Gecko.

wtf.

Even after the update making it clear that these were just UX experiments (which happen all the time and usually go nowhere...) they still manage to translate it into "new, better browser" somehow.

That's almost an impressive level of spin, if it wasn't so infuriating knowing that people will believe it at face value.

Caterina 'Catty' McCatface

5:54 PM

Urgh too much legroom. I can barely reach the footrest

/firstworldproblems

Bob

@Caterina'Catty'McCatface O_O

Usually it's the other complaint...

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