Root Access

ChatBot John Cavil

00:00

I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.

Psycogeek

00:12

that died finnaly after like 15 years

this is supposed to replace it

remember i had the corsair K70, this is instead the strafe

strafe has bigger font, much like the razor, but not goofey font.

Bob

helloooo

qasdfdsaq

Fox captured barehanded

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Bad aussie!

Psycogeek

strafe has white base under keys (much like the razor but different), phht, while more light comes up, the "contrast" of the keyfonts not so good.

Bob

:(

Psycogeek

strafe seems to be limited in maximum light output, lighting is IN the keyswitch, k70 had led outside of keyswitch.

It cant very well be the exact same Blues (keyswitch) when it is the led installed version. could be why this keyswitch is reporting more problems than (tried and true) blues.

probably 3mm rgb leds, because they look most like the usual round domed 3mm, not great for longevity due to how it can cool itself (diode junction thermals)

oldmud0

00:31

Anyone know what the toolbar in Windows Explorer is called?

In Windows 7 there's a bar that starts with "Organize"

But I'm making something in Visual Studio and I have no idea what the control is called

The debugger in Wabbitemu has this too:

bwDraco

00:46

Cherry MX RGB Brown.

Bob

@oldmud0 Heh. I thought you meant the ribbon UI at first.

It's not really a menustrip either

I don't think it maps to any .NET controls directly

Psycogeek

@bwDraco much better picture

bwDraco

@Psycogeek Compact camera, but with manual controls. Flash fired. 1/250s f/5.6 ISO 125.

oldmud0

or you can look at the EXIF info right?

bwDraco

Imgur doesn't preserve Exif.

Bob

00:53

@oldmud0 Actually, a styled menustrip might be closest to the toolbar you're looking for.

bwDraco

Scratch that. It's 1/320s f/6.0 ISO 125.

Bob

*shrug* oldmud may or may not have decided to ignore me so if anyone wants to repeat that feel free

I'm heading out for a bit... got to find a better headset :\

Psycogeek

@oldmud0 yea the only bar that starts with organise is in the explorer itself it is classed as a "toolbar" in the help, wheras the other is menu? but you knew all that, and really need to know what the name is in the programming stuff?

Bob

@Psycogeek Doesn't look like it maps to a reusable control (common control). Looks like custom styling.

oldmud0

Dang

Psycogeek

00:57

@Bob that it does, anyone know how to customise it to have it GONE!

I suppose someday i should ask that on SU, I Have-to have the menu, the toolbar is redundant, and has little on it I use anyways. it just takes more verticle space

Bob

@Psycogeek That also doesn't look doable.

oldmud0

that would take more h4x than it would to turn on aero glass on windows 10

assuming the code for that wasn't deleted already

but hey, at least they still ship ntvdm with 32-bit versions of Windows :^)

bwDraco

Take a closer look at the image and it should be clear that the keyswitches are Cherry-branded. These are not imitations.

oldmud0

Well crap, I left Photoshop on my older installation of Windows. Don't want to install it, maybe I'll take another shot at Gimp?

Psycogeek

@bwDraco so if one of them dies (as people have reported on many of these) how does the keyswitch remove? One dude said thier support was to send him a key :-)

Bob

01:06

@oldmud0 Eh, the real trick is finding the class and deleting it.

Unfortunately Spy++ tells me there is no class for that toolbar :\

bwDraco

Keycap pulls cleanly. I have no intention of removing the keyswitch proper.

Psycogeek

what if one keyswitch fails?

Bob

bwDraco

They'd probably repair the keyboard under warranty, assuming it's valid.

Bob

^ That's the tree for an Explorer window.

Psycogeek

01:08

@bwDraco you mean those worthless warrenties, where they blame the user at every possible chance? the support that everyone says sucks completly :-)

bwDraco

My only experience with a warranty claim with Roccat (replace faulty mouse) was positive.

Psycogeek

people only say support sucks, when they needed support, otherwise it is great :-)

oldmud0

@Bob You probably wouldn't find it in explorer, it's probably somewhere in comctl32

Bob

@oldmud0 Yea, I just realised Spy++ only shows windows and not individual controls.

@oldmud0 Styled "Coolbar"?

Spy++ says there's a ReBarWindow32 in there :\

Ah, no.

That's the 'old' menu bar.

oldmud0

Wat

Bob

01:17

@oldmud0 The File/Edit/View/Tools/Help bar. That's the "ReBarWindow32".

The Organise/Library/Share/New Folder bar seems to be drawn directly on screen :S

oldmud0

Hmm, I looked at the Wabbitemu code and it seems likely that it would be drawn manually.

Psycogeek

@oldmud0 this program superuser.com/questions/799897/… tended to show all the things in a "window" and has things classed in the software it shows. could be it would help although not much of it means anything to me regular user.

oldmud0

Welp, looks like it's NirSoft saving the day again.

On Windows Explorer, it just says DirectUIHWND and on Wabbitmenu, it's wabtool.

Bob

@oldmud0 Yea, DirectUIHWND includes the toolbar plus tree (child window) and folder contents (another child window)

At least that's what Spy++ says.

It's not the toolbar itself. It's the window that contains it.

I've also checked and it's not WPF either apparently.

> DirectUI is a C++ user interface library created by Microsoft to be a WPF like API for native applications.

... -_-

So that's why it sounded familiar.

See, the thing with WPF is it uses DirectX/Direct2D calls rather than the traditional controls. So standard window spy tools don't work on it. So you need tools like Snoop.

But apparently their native version is different enough that Snoop doesn't work there either :\

Psycogeek

of course

Bob

01:30

So... yea. @oldmud0 It's almost definitely not a common control. It's also probably not something you can reuse since DirectUI isn't publicly available - it's an internal framework.

Then again it's basically a toolbar with a gradient and a button style :\

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Q: What to do when spy++ doesnt give any details to extract from software?

I have some software that needs some info mining like getting text from controls/listiews etc.. The thing is that spy++ cant detect any controls, much less the text from them. I figure the software is made in something unknown to c++/mfc/winapi So what are my choices here, what can i do? It se...

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According to Spy++ highlight that black outlined bit is the DirectUIHWND.

:O

WPF Windows 7 Explorer Toolbar Control

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Q: Has someone created a WPF Toolbar-Control in Vista/Win7 look?

I would like to add a toolbar, that looks like the one in the Windows 7 Explorer (see picture below), to a WPF-application. Because I'm new to WPF I wondered if there is a WPF-Control (free / open source) I can use instead of having to create a new one. I already searched for it but could not fin...

.net wpf windows-7 user-interface explorer

Psycogeek

3 votes for telling how to make a background ? where is the beef :-)

Bob

02:15

Speech Jammer Storytime

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Psycogeek

well at least someone still speaks human :-) When running tofbar, my IRDS fails to connect to the LWY/SSL , but only when Shelat is using PIBar in Slugh mode. How Do i fix this?

Bob

@Psycogeek reddit.com/r/vxjunkies

Turbo Encabulator - Rockwell

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Psycogeek

02:51

i think they switched windows 7 updates, to a Rasberry Pi3 server. "there jerks, you didnt want to upgrade, take that! 2 months to install windows7, next time you will do what we tell ya."

tereško

this is an interesting interview: youtu.be/7unH-KIg9MI?t=732

bwDraco

03:05

tomshardware.com/news/…

Wow. Guess there's no such thing as EOL for the folks at Blizzard.

oldmud0

does anyone read "tom's hardware" as "tom shardware" other than me?

Bookmaster_VP

yeah, sadly

Psycogeek

the best games are the patched ones, when your computer is 150% more performance than existed in that day and age. fast, minimal problems, low price , what could be better. plus many older games had more thought put into the experience, and less into crappy movies blocking that experience.

500 games to go, i think i am up to 2006

KronoS

03:23

Hey, anyone know if I can install Windows 7 from my Windows 10 machine?

I have a buddy that needs to install Widnows 7, but doesn't have a dvd drive and can't boot from usb

I don't really want to shutdown and install it from disk if possible

Psycogeek

you dont want to have to shutdown your machine to install his?

KronoS

not really

but I will if it's my only option

Psycogeek

dvd drive $20 , your time messing with it , more :-)

Ramhound

I will never understand the community

Psycogeek

all the installs need is the "files" of the installer, and some way to boot to it. so it is probably possible to net the files to a partition, make partition bootable , install to another partition. all these systems can then boot TO various partitions, given enough tweaking.

Ramhound

03:30

I question I spend 4 hours on receives -16 votes yet this answers has received 40 upvotes.

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A: What are every Windows 7/8/8.1 updates (KBs) I must skip to avoid Windows 10 upgrading -and nags-?

Attempting to block the upgrade to Windows 10 by not installing certain updates is the incorrect approach of permanently preventing the upgrade to Windows 10. By setting the DisableOSUpgrade registry key, you block the upgrade entirely, despite any prompts to upgrade. As outline in this support...

does not compute..

oldmud0

Okay, -16 is not right. You better get that investigated.

-22 on your webcam question. It looks like you're getting beat down with downvotes.

Bob

04:16

@Psycogeek I just used wsus offline for the new laptop

the update search took entirely too long

oldmud0

sould i use asus or wsus [closed]

wow how many edits did it take for it to pick up the link

...6

Psycogeek

@Bob why would that be? i do not recall it being that way before, passed out and went to bed last night waiting just for the list to arrive. Stupidly lost the list 2 times since, which stays up, if i dont screw up and close it down.

Bob

@Psycogeek the update list is pretty long now. also, if it's a fresh install... the old update client has a memory leak that makes things worse especially on low-mem systems

if you update the update client first it should go faster :P

Psycogeek

My method is to install them by Time, the way they were "tested" thier method is slop and hope, weeeeeeee , ooops. So this is going to take a while. I may hate it , but how anyone could keep all those changes straight is a microsoft miracle. well they dont but it Would Be :-)

bwDraco

Okay. My Linux cloud desktop has been giving me trouble since a system update. SDL doesn't want to start on the VNC desktop, claiming that there are "no available displays". Any ideas?

...nevermind. seems to be an issue with the app in question.

Psycogeek

04:43

standards: When pushing a button should the button display the mode it is in now, or the mode it will be in when you push it? I hate that, both are good ideas, now pick ONE people.

Psycogeek

05:10

think of all the word games they could make with these color changing keyboards, without even a monitor. scramble , typing challenges, and (they are doing) cross linking them to games. Spell cooldown countdowns, exploding keyboard enhancements, and

The game Death screen keyboard enhancement

allquixotic

06:09

blah, Sakura Clicker just resorts to scientific notation (E+##) when you go beyond "zz". that was a lame way to keep going past "zz" :/

bwDraco

> blah

lol

@Psycogeek Uh, this might be read as offensive.

Psycogeek

06:31

only for people who cant spell game Over

beeks

06:43

If you are interested in a business opportunity in gold trading please let me know as I would like to help us get wealthier. I am a hedge fund manager and play golf with executives in the metals industry.

Psycogeek

07:03

@JourneymanGeek can you delete that pic, without a ruckas

Journeyman Geek

Done?

Psycogeek

thanks

Journeyman Geek

@beeks I think I speak for many of us what I go... whaaaaat?

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Bob

Journeyman Geek

I just got back to my gran's place. Internet seems oddly slow (noooooooo!) so moderatatorial stuff may be a little slow

Bob

07:13

you've have to pay DOLLARS MORE

ah, inflation...

Journeyman Geek

@beeks my dad's invested in that sorta thing. Its a crapshoot unless you actually physically hold the metal.

Lots of gold investment products tend to go bust

Anyway, seems like a very random thing to bring up here

Psycogeek

granny probably has too much tor downloading going :-)

Journeyman Geek

naturally once I complain about it, things go faster

tho amusingly my phone's faster cause of chrome's magic compressing proxy thing

beeks

07:39

journeyman i have a different business model, the risk is very low as the point is to minimize duration of exposure

Bob

@JourneymanGeek they're watching

beeks

journeyman if you are man enough to take control of your financial future we can talk but need to use good crypto

maybe your wife needs more money or you want more free time to find a new wife

Psycogeek

wow really breaking out the MLM sales pitching now :-)

beeks

i am not scam!

Journeyman Geek

@beeks are you spam?

beeks

07:46

journeyman no i am not. trust me

Psycogeek

it was really weird when your icon dropped into the room, something said SPAM in big letters, and you had not yet said a word. Now i am not implying anything, just thought it was weird, and it wasnt all in my mind, or i hope it wasnt.

beeks

i am a hedge fund manager like i said and my portfolio is currently net short

Bob

@beeks whoever said JMG is a man?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob woof?

I just bury a hole, and pop by bones in. Very secure, once you've planted the landmines.

Bob

It's like people don't even look at the pictures anymore

beeks

07:48

oh, sorry journeyman if you are not a man

if you are female we must approach this project with difference, but it will be minor.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah.

I do think we need to approach this project with a difference...

@Bob Care to do the honors please?

beeks

;)

Psycogeek

beeks can you help me to improve my gold connections on my video card?

beeks

if you consider your self neither male nor female you can be other, BUT, must have fake identification

Psycogeek

they wear down too quickly when inserted too many times.

beeks

07:51

Psychogeek i can't help you with that because you are misinformed

Psycogeek

Really, there isnt ANY gold there at all right? i knew it.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Huh?

beeks

that is correct, nail right on the head

Bob

sorry, replying to messages takes forever on ff mobile...

Psycogeek

aAhhh, i bet there isnt any on that piece of paper they give me promising to invest in it either :-)

beeks

07:53

Psychogeek but if you are really having trouble with the connectors on your computer component card contacts you can use oven cleaner to freshen the finish and remove most tarnish

Psycogeek

but oven cleaner would also remove most of the metal too? that stuff is thin

beeks

most people are misconceived because oven cleaner is the camphor oil of computer contacts

im very satisfied with its use over the years

Psycogeek

so it causes them to puke?

beeks

those little things clean them better than a god damn subway shoeshine

Psycogeek

I bet it do, right down to the PCB

beeks

07:57

so i use it up for now until obama and the g.d dang epa ban it

Psycogeek

there are so many different oven cleaners now, varying in strength from a weak soap to drain cleaner.

how about i just use lye crystals straight up?

Bob

→ 1 message moved to Trash

Journeyman Geek

oh.k. @beeks if ya don't mind, stop trolling please. Or else.

Bob

→ 1 message moved to Trash

Journeyman Geek

Luckily most folk here know better

Bob

08:03

Ok. So I can do that. (but only on desktop...)

qasdfdsaq

4 mins ago, by Bob

→ 1 message moved to Trash

That's new...

beeks

alright :P

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Ah wasn't sure if you wanted warning or kick-mute

beeks

you all have a good night

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Room owners can move messages. Trash rooms are just normal rooms.

It used to be only move to other rooms we also own, dunno when they changed that

Journeyman Geek

08:04

@Bob I can totally warn from mobile.

qasdfdsaq

Urgh, I'm so not used to being up this early. Especially on a Saturday

@Bob So you can move to any room?

Awal Garg

!!;p

ChatBot John Cavil

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq I doubt

Awal Garg

yup, just came here for this image. thanks

Journeyman Geek

08:08

there's some rooms he can't see

qasdfdsaq

Lol who the hell

@JourneymanGeek Well OK, but like, most publicly listed rooms?

Journeyman Geek

qasdfdsaq

I mean if Trash isn't special.... then wouldn't it be funny for random out-of-context messages to appear in other chat rooms that people aren't even in?

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq I think so

@qasdfdsaq you can have your room ownership revoked :)

Psycogeek

@qasdfdsaq iit would be funny for a while

qasdfdsaq

08:10

By whom?

Journeyman Geek

Mods? Staffers? Shog9?

qasdfdsaq

@Psycogeek Meh, everything's only funny for a while

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek is your dog with you at your relatives? chances to play with kids?

qasdfdsaq

Who is this shog9 that everyone seems to think is so scary

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek no

@qasdfdsaq wrong question. Right question is where are the first 8?

qasdfdsaq

08:13

!!learn ;) <>https://i.sstatic.net/GjpBK.jpg

ChatBot John Cavil

@qasdfdsaq Command ;) learned

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek flying a dog for a vacation cross national borders is impractical

Psycogeek

yes it is

Journeyman Geek

My dad's in SG dog sitting

Course, there's the GSD 'pup' here

Psycogeek

German Shepherd Drooler ?

qasdfdsaq

08:17

Gross Shipping Dragon?

Psycogeek

Ghastly Sadistic Dog

qasdfdsaq

facebook.com/BuzzFeed/videos/10154423568300329

Oh wow that's some cat

Bob

@qasdfdsaq @JourneymanGeek Yea, I think I can move to any public room. But my name is attached to the move.

Also I'd probably end up suspended from chat.

Psycogeek

that is cool Trash chat, i should move in there and rename myself Oscar.

Wait for the trashy babes to show up

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Looks like Ogre with that twisted lip...

Psycogeek

08:27

why isnt that, yup, it's rachael ray

qasdfdsaq

Who?

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek that is oddly accurate

qasdfdsaq

German Shepherd ... Dog?

!!google gsd dog

ChatBot John Cavil

@qasdfdsaq * German Shepherd (GSD) Dog Breed Information - American Kennel ... ; German Shepherd Dog Breed Information, Pictures, Characteristics ... ; German Shepherd | Dogs 101 | Animal Planet

qasdfdsaq

Huh. I'll be damned.

Boris_yo

08:30

@Psycogeek Oh I don't watch TV. TV is bad for ye...

I don't listen to radio. Radio is bad for ye...

Both are bad unless there is imminent threat to your existence that you must know about. That's when they are good for ye...

Like meteor shower...

Bob

Oh yea. There was this person with two little dogs at the shops. One was standing on its hind legs leaning forwards on the leash, front paws together wagging them up and down at people.

Psycogeek

uhh your on the web, there isnt anything worse for you

Bob

That was too cute

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek Web makes you different... And it keeps away agendas of Dr. Evil.

Psycogeek

but you would still be plauged by Mini Me

Boris_yo

08:35

Psycogeek

I suppose you could say he would be the lesser of 2 Dr. Evils.

Boris_yo

I bought it from Newegg... Made in China?

Bob

@Boris_yo ...and?

So?

Therefore?

Boris_yo

How do I know what partial content was made in China?

Journeyman Geek

anything that wasn't not made in china

chances are assembly was in china, NAND and/or controller was made elsewhere.

What does it matter tho?

Psycogeek

08:37

its that foreign content that messes up your Operating system :-)

I prefer to remove it before installing

Journeyman Geek

American Components, Russian Components. ALL MADE IN ~~Taiwan~~ China!

Boris_yo

Even sensitive components responsible for data integrity are made in China?

Psycogeek

no just the backdoor access to them

Journeyman Geek

boingboing.net/2016/03/10/slightly-damaged-gaming-pc-you.html

@Boris_yo no idea. That said, clearly you should get yourself a nice thai hard drive.

Psycogeek

Journeyman Geek

08:52

"slight damage"

Psycogeek

that is one reason why i had purchaced "Team" Memory, it was made in tailand, great stuff, but none avilable for this new build anywhere. You could say i had "2 sticks of Tia"

for those who didnt get the referance en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thai_stick

Journeyman Geek

*thai

and heh, I think my beebox came with that brand stock

I did replace it with 8 gigs of something else tho ;)

Journeyman Geek

10:53

hackaday.com/2016/03/10/gigabit-ethernet-through-the-air this seems rather neat

wee bit pricy I suppose, but seems pretty neat

Bob

11:10

@JourneymanGeek Uhm. Point-to-point microwave is a thing.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob true, but something like this is probably easier to do, and safer

and probably cheaper

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...safer how?

Journeyman Geek

12:02

@Bob diy microwave emitters?

Bob

12:50

@JourneymanGeek probably still safer than IR lasers

IR lasers can blind you pretty easily

takes a lot more power to make microwaves dangerous

allquixotic

14:53

oh god, we had a random scammer show up here last night?

jokerdino

@allquixotic who?

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic Lol I was trying to figure what that was

allquixotic

@jokerdino "beeks"

beeks

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microsoft-outlook pst command-line d-link email firefox grep

qasdfdsaq

8 hours ago, by beeks

If you are interested in a business opportunity in gold trading please let me know as I would like to help us get wealthier. I am a hedge fund manager and play golf with executives in the metals industry.

jokerdino

Oh, I was wondering if it was Daniels.

allquixotic

14:56

somehow they have a way to "get wealthier" that everyone hasn't jumped on that probably just involves giving him money because he plays golf with big execs

whenever anyone comes to you with a get rich quick scheme, it's them getting rich, not you

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jokerdino

at this point, everyone who has some form of working brains would have that part figured out.

Bob

@allquixotic I was thinking more joker than scammer.

jokerdino

Pls.

Bob

...joker, not joker.

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HackToHell

15:42

reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/4a0s3o/…

jokerdino

15:58

@HackToHell Careful, that kind of humor may not be tolerated by you-know-who.

HackToHell

I think he who must not be named is afk

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