Root Access

qasdfdsaq

2:04 PM

Hey Bob, kotaku.com/you-can-experience-fox-heaven-in-japan-1683923041

Bob

@qasdfdsaq I swear I've seen that photo before.

But the other 20?

:D

LOL. "I have a doubt". I managed to use it in a comment. ;)

qasdfdsaq

2:06 PM

They sure like snow

Bob

He's been Indianised.

...is that a word?

DavidPostill

I looked into my crystal ball today, but I have a doubt. Unfortunately it didn't tell me what "an error" means. Please edit your question and provide all the information that is missing so we can answer it.

Bob

Hm. No one here's used 9p? :(

qasdfdsaq

Never heard of it myself

Bob

@qasdfdsaq What about NFS? :P

qasdfdsaq

2:08 PM

Hmm, rings a bell

Bob

lol

qasdfdsaq

But I have a doubt

Bob

Ever used it? Good, decent, shit?

qasdfdsaq

NFS?

Bob

Ya.

qasdfdsaq

2:09 PM

Well, as the basic underpinnings and de facto standard for Linux network filesystems, yeah it's decent.

Our 40Gbit 55TB cluster filesystem runs NFS.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq The first part applies to SMB with Windows and I've still yet to see anyone really like it :\

qasdfdsaq

Personally I would make a big deal of going for NFS4 over NFS3.

DavidPostill

-2

Q: How to repair Windows 10 in Dell Inspiron 15 3000

I was using Windows 10 in my laptop but I try to install Linux for dual boot It was taking so much time so I turned off my laptop. When I restart it I was unable to start Windows 10 it is showing an error. Please give me suggestions about how to repair it without loosing data

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Yeah but standards in Windows are because Microsoft said so. Standards in Linux are because, the open source community said so.

Bob

Hm. I guess I'll go with 9p first and fall back to NFS if it doesn't work out.

qasdfdsaq

2:10 PM

Which do you trust more? :-P

Bob

Downside to NFS is having to host network services on the host.

qasdfdsaq

It's trivially lightweight and built-in to pretty much all *nixes

Bob

The other part is it'd effectively be NFS over TCP over virtio. Compared to 9p over virtio.

qasdfdsaq

What are you putting in the VM and what are you putting on the host?

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Hm. I've not used it yet so I don't know just how light it is :P

@qasdfdsaq The VM gets to run the ownCloud instance. The uploaded data will live on a zfs dataset on the host.

qasdfdsaq

2:13 PM

Ah, I thought when you said "I don't want it to live inside the VM." you meant Owncloud

Bob

So it'll likely be mostly bulk transfers, not much random access going on.

qasdfdsaq

Frankly, the bottleneck is going to be the internet connection on your client either way

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Oh, no, I meant the data. My VMs live on ZVOLs, so it's a pain to expand, etc..

qasdfdsaq

NFS over TCP over VirtIO does about 25Gbps for me.

Bob

Also, having the data sit on top of ext4 kinda loses some of the benefit of zfs...

@qasdfdsaq ...good point.

qasdfdsaq

2:14 PM

TCP over VirtIO has improved massively over the years. Six years ago about 3-4Gbps was the best I'd get

Bob

I just had a thought... why didn't I just chuck my VMs directly on 9p? Then I wouldn't need to deal with zvols and ext4 at all :\

Ugh. Too much trouble to change at this point.

@qasdfdsaq Yea, but 6 years ago 10GbE was rarer :P

qasdfdsaq

lol

6 years ago 10GbE was pretty much available in any major datacentre. Though we're talking about host <=> VM local communication here.

Bob

Hm. I suppose whatever I choose I can trivially swap over.

qasdfdsaq

Our core network has been 10GbE+ for close to 10 years.

Bob

At the end of the day, it's a path on the host mounted as a path on the VM.

qasdfdsaq

2:17 PM

I think the first ISPs switched to 100GbE about six years ago :-P

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Is that a thing? o.O

qasdfdsaq

Owncloud can remotely monitor practically anything anyway.

Bob

I've heard of 40GbE, but 100?

qasdfdsaq

You can mount Amazon storage on it or Google drive, if you felt the need.

100GbE has been around for ages. It's still very high-end, but it's not new.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Google Drive via ownCloud just sounds weird.

qasdfdsaq

2:18 PM

Yeah, well the advantage is integrated management of multiple cloud storage(s) I guess

Bob

Speaking of which, here's a build of my last attempt to fix media buttons: onedrive.live.com/…

qasdfdsaq

Ah no, 100GbE was formalised in 2010, and the first UK companies used it in late 2011/early 2012.

Bob

It's not as reliable as the first attempt but it allows the webpage to intercept events... the first attempt just passed it through all the time.

qasdfdsaq

> OneDrive
Because you're accessing sensitive info, you need to verify your password.

Bob

Corresponds to this patch

qasdfdsaq

2:20 PM

Checks address bar Nope, not a phishing scam.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq wut. private browsing window?

MS is weird about SSO.

It always asks me to log in when browsing technet, too. No way to avoid it, apart form clearing cookies.

@qasdfdsaq So it's practically useful? Over short distances, I guess (for copper)

qasdfdsaq

Copper... urgh. It's used on long-distance fibre mostly.

With 100km+ links, £100,000 equipment at each end to not have to spend £200,000 re-laying 100km of fibre is a decent saving.

On shorter links... you're better off with bonded 10GbE or 40GbE. Or just plain WDM.

I don't know if it even works on copper...

Well well, apparently it does work on copper, but only over a CXP connection. No Base-T/RJ45

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Oh, you were talking about fibre.

Ugh. Probably should go to sleep at a reasonable time. I'll try owncloud tomorrow.

'night.

qasdfdsaq

Awww

I was just about to start trying it too

Bob

@qasdfdsaq ?

qasdfdsaq

2:26 PM

19 hours ago, by qasdfdsaq

I think I'm going to copy you and set up Owncloud.

Had yet another memory card for my phone die (5 in a row now).

Bob

-_-

it's 1:30 AM and I have a rather nasty cold

qasdfdsaq

I really need a more convenient backup solution than pulling an SD card out of my phone.

Bob

don't tempt me :(

qasdfdsaq

Awww

Here, have a picture of a fox:

Night night :)

Journeyman Geek

ugh, I am wondering if I'm XY probleming something.

I basically need a way to send notifications from a linux box to a windows box.

qasdfdsaq

2:33 PM

Define "notification"

Journeyman Geek

Currently trying to use sendxmpp with prosody (running in a VM)

qasdfdsaq

My first thought would be a basic TCP sender and listener.

Journeyman Geek

Ideally? I'd like a windows 10 toaster notification telling me some arbitrary bit of text

and be able to feed something from a shell script or arbitrary text into it

qasdfdsaq

I wonder if there's a vbscript function for windows toasters

Journeyman Geek

Usecase 1. Temperature Warnings. Usecase 2. Use it with qbitorrent to let me know when my automated downloads complete.

Growl might work but its its own notifications and GFW hasn't been updated in years

HackToHell

2:48 PM

Overview of Pixar in a Box

►

HackToHell

3:31 PM

How do you boost your sound beyond defualt in Windows 10

I updated windows and now my max volume sucks

allquixotic

@HackToHell XY problem -- overdriving your sound is generally a bad thing; to get your sound to normal volume levels you probably just need to install the right driver

HackToHell

@allquixotic Sigh, I am at the latest driver

EqualizerAPO isn't working :/

allquixotic

did you install the latest driver after upgrading to windows 10?

HackToHell

Yeah

It was that new buiid of Win 10

Worked well until before the big update thingy

allquixotic

what's the PCI ID of your sound card?

HackToHell

3:34 PM

a sec

gist.github.com/HackToHell/…

The driver version on that is incorrect

I have since upgraded it

Currently at support.lenovo.com/in/hi/products/laptops-and-netbooks/…

which is the latest

qasdfdsaq

Lol my KSP rockets just keep getting more and more absurd

Burgi

3:50 PM

needs more struts

HackToHell

@allquixotic found anything ?

allquixotic

4:21 PM

@HackToHell couldn't even find a driver from Conexant themselves

I assume you got your driver from Lenovo?

HackToHell

Yeah, only from lenovo :'(

It comes with Dolby crap

Even that doesn't work

bummi

the troll on this question could use some flags: superuser.com/q/1039044/172747

qasdfdsaq

lol

allquixotic

@bummi to be fair, that is a horrendous question

bummi

yes

but troll is troll

qasdfdsaq

4:24 PM

@allquixotic Yeah, but... I don't think that justifies this:

While the question may be bad, at least it's a question. Those answers... are not answers.

allquixotic

I agree, but no need to onebox / repeat that answer here

HackToHell

@allquixotic So what's the best way to boost thy volume ;p

allquixotic

@HackToHell forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-P-Y-and-Z-series/…

did you try using the built-in default HD Audio driver yet?

fsf.org/blogs/community/…

Burgi

4:45 PM

oh they FINALLY put the heating on just as we are due to leave

allquixotic

which SE girl should I ask to be my cryptovalentine :O

qasdfdsaq

All of them

Burgi

the scattergun approach

qasdfdsaq

I only know like, two anyway

allquixotic

5:15 PM

reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3lvujk/…

also that @HackToHell

allquixotic

5:27 PM

Wauzer puppy dog tricks (Lacey)

►

@JourneymanGeek is Lacey cute?

Jonno

6:04 PM

Ahw come on... :( imgur.com/Y0iBZG5.jpg

Anonymous

6:19 PM

hello, all

Anonymous

Currently fighting for attention from here or U&L.

qasdfdsaq

Onebree Twobree Threebree Four

Anonymous

Actually, the first two are my pseudonyms online. I hate using the second, because it means that my username has been blacklisted or is in use

Anonymous

Anyway, I am on a Debian 8 system, and the package libvpx2.so.3 is installed. However, I need libvpx2.so.2 instead. How do I get the latter?

qasdfdsaq

Heh. I use "qasdfdsaq" everywhere because it's never taken, but my bank forces you to have a username that's a combination of letters and digits so I have to use qasdfdsaq1

Anonymous

6:22 PM

Anonymous

^ WHAT IS THAT MAYHEM???

qasdfdsaq

I imagine it's a case of 1) Figuring out where libvpx2.so.2 comes from, and 2) Installing it

@onebree LOL. I see you've met clippy.

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq It looks like so.x signifies the version number of the package. But IDK how to get so.2.

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq As far as usernames go, on Twitter, I had onebree. But then I deleted my account... Then I opened again but had to use twobree because someone is currently squatting onebree. I contacted Twitter support with a case of impersonation, and explained everything in email. They said they cannot delete an account for squatting a username

qasdfdsaq

> libvpx shared library is present as libvpx2.so.2, installed by package libvpx2.

What do you have installed?

tereško

6:27 PM

> FreeBSD 10.3-BETA2 FreeBSD 10.3-BETA2 #0 a3f0577(stable/10): Fri Feb 12 17:41:42 UTC 2016 teresko@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/NEXUS amd64

yay

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq when I run apt-get install libvpx2, it says the latest version is installed. When I do locate libvpx2, it shows ONLY libvpx2.so.3

qasdfdsaq

dpkg-query -l should tell you what version you have installed

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq What is the exact command to enter?

allquixotic

@onebree it's an ABI bump of the VP9 library

to get libvpx2.so.2 you'll need to either grab an older version of libvpx from older distro releases, or compile it

Anonymous

How do I do either of those things? I am newer to Linux admin, especially on Debian (used to CentOS more)

allquixotic

6:41 PM

@onebree aptitude search libvpx

actually, I'm not sure how you have libvpx2.so.3 on Jessie

that doesn't appear to be in the Jessie repos at all

do you have any third-party repos installed?

Anonymous

@allquixotic Yes I do -- curl https://files.freeswitch.org/repo/deb/debian/freeswitch_archive_g0.pub

qasdfdsaq

@onebree literally dpkg-query -l

Anonymous

I was following: freeswitch.org/confluence/display/FREESWITCH/…

Anonymous

That command is not found. Disclosure: this is a bare minimum debian 8 install.

allquixotic

If you look at what's available in sid (unstable), you can see that the package libvpx3 contains libvpx2.so.3, the package libvpx2 contains libvpx2.so.2, and the package libvpx1 contains libvpx.so.1.3.0

packages.debian.org/…

(useful to do searches on packages.debian.org then restrict by distro, then look at the file lists for each package)

Anonymous

6:45 PM

Thanks, I am new to Debian like I said, with little sysadmin know-how

qasdfdsaq

@onebree what about dpkg -l libvpx2

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq fails as well

allquixotic

files.freeswitch.org/repo/deb/debian/pool/main/libv/libvpx2

looks like the version you need might be in one of those packages

the ".2" ABI bump of libvpx2 should be version 1.4.x, per the tags here

Anonymous

What is ABI?

allquixotic

Application binary interface

In computer software, an application binary interface (ABI) is the interface between two program modules, one of which is often a library or operating system, at the level of machine code. An ABI determines such details as how functions are called and in which binary format information should be passed from one program component to the next, or to the operating system in the case of a system call. Adhering to ABIs (which may or may not be officially standardized) is usually the job of the compiler, OS or library writer, but application programmers may have to deal with ABIs directly when writing...

1. Download a .deb file

2. :

qasdfdsaq

6:49 PM

lol

allquixotic

188

A: How to list files of a Debian package without install

dpkg -c (or --contents) lists the contents of a .deb package file (It is a front-end to dpkg-deb.) dpkg -c package_file.deb To work directly with package names rather than package files, you can use apt-file. (You may need to install the apt-file package first.) sudo apt-file update ...

brute force dpkg -c <deb file name> until you find libvpx2.so.2 inside one of them

qasdfdsaq

Was thinking of suggesting she install dpkg

allquixotic

that's basically what I'd do in this situation

Anonymous

@allquixotic What is the colon for?

qasdfdsaq

How do people do anything without at least dpkg

allquixotic

6:50 PM

@onebree the colon is my way of saying "step 2 is coming up in the next message" because I can't onebox something on the same chat line as I have text

BTW, I just did it for you and here's what I found:

# wget 'https://files.freeswitch.org/repo/deb/debian/pool/main/libv/libvpx2/libvpx2_1.4.1-10~1-jessie+1_amd64.deb'
--2016-02-12 18:51:52--  files.freeswitch.org/repo/deb/debian/pool/main/libv/libvpx2/…
Resolving files.freeswitch.org (files.freeswitch.org)... 209.105.235.7, 2607:f348:1021::7
Connecting to files.freeswitch.org (files.freeswitch.org)|209.105.235.7|:443... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 691290 (675K) [application/x-debian-package]

in short, I downloaded the file libvpx2_1.4.1-10~1-jessie+1_amd64.deb from that list of files I linked you above (the freeswitch repo), and the libvpx2 version 1.4.1 deb contains libvpx2.so.2.0.0, which will automatically be symlinked to libvpx2.so.2, which will solve your problem

Anonymous

The symlink is esxactly what I need!!

qasdfdsaq

._.

allquixotic

well you can't just symlink libvpx2.so.3 to libvpx2.so.2, because that will break ABI compatibility and it won't work

unless you have libvpx2.so.2.0.0, then you can symlink that to exclude the ".0.0"

Anonymous

I mean, what you described above is what I am looking for -- a download of the correct package, symlinked to libvpx2.so.2 where Free switch is looking for it at

allquixotic

but if you have .so.3, don't symlink that to .so.2

@onebree yeah. I was pasting that there for you because I'm pretty confident that it has what you need :P

Anonymous

6:54 PM

I know not to do so.3 -> so.2, as they are different versions

allquixotic

what I'm confused about is why your system does not already have libvpx2 of the correct version installed

qasdfdsaq

I'm still more curious where libvpx2.so.3 came from if she only has libvpx2 installed.

Anonymous

That you so much, @allquixotic. Asking for help on this kind of stuff makes me want to actually work on my Linux Bible

allquixotic

@onebree => aptitude show libvpx3

Anonymous

I do not have aptitude

allquixotic

6:55 PM

apt-get install aptitude

Anonymous

Wait a sec.. it terminated the SSH. Face palm... Let me go back in

Anonymous

(the non-ssh is centos LOL)

allquixotic

use mosh if you can

qasdfdsaq

Just give allquixotic the password, he'll fix it for you

allquixotic

No, I only accept remote assistance requests from people who'll be my cryptovalentine (fsf.org)

aside from that, this is for her work, wouldn't want to violate company policy by letting a "foreign actor" into the network

qasdfdsaq

6:59 PM

@onebree Just give allquixotic the password and promise you'll be his cryptovalentine, whatever that is.

Anonymous

I am smart enough to not give away such info :P

qasdfdsaq

But not smart enough to install libvpx2 apparently

Anonymous

Although you would not get access @allquixotic - this is a telecom company so we already have a mess of firewalls and mac address filters, etc

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq That was uncalled for.

allquixotic

well, technically, "a mess of firewalls and mac address filters" is not much of a deterrent ...

Anonymous

7:01 PM

POINT IS -- here is my progress so far: gist.github.com/onebree/ead83128325ee886e80c

allquixotic

@onebree oh, you have to install it with dpkg -i libvpx2<tab>

<tab> being a literal press of the Tab key

Anonymous

@allquixotic Thank you, doing that now

Anonymous

Okay, here are the results, and the locate command still shows so.3 => gist.github.com/onebree/…

qasdfdsaq

Have you updated the locate database?

Anonymous

right! I forgot to do that! How do I?

Anonymous

7:08 PM

(I know you need to update, but don't know how)

qasdfdsaq

updatedb

Incidentally I was asked that question as part of a job interview a few years back.

Anonymous

Yay!!! \o/

Anonymous

I can add these things to my daily TIL list.

Anonymous

Although no one on snapchat will understand...

qasdfdsaq

> TIL: qasdfdsaq is a jerk, and he learnt updatedb from a job interview

Like that? ^^

Anonymous

7:12 PM

No, TIL: use updatedb to update cache from locate

qasdfdsaq

But how did you know you had to do it wihout knowing how to do it?

Anonymous

Because I have heard of it before, but did not know the command

Anonymous

I guess my TIL is back to blank.. :-/ It is a personal snapchat challenge, that like only 4 people max have seen

qasdfdsaq

Huh. I only heard of it by learning the command

Anonymous

vOv

allquixotic

7:18 PM

@onebree personally I don't use locate; I'd just run find /usr -name libvpx2.so.3 in your case

Anonymous

@allquixotic thank you so much for the help!! It works now!

qasdfdsaq

SuperUser solves what other SE chats can't again!

Now if you'd only given him remote access you'd have been done an hour ago

Anonymous

Yeah, the U&L room just said they don't know what free switch is, and that the lib is not part of the standard arch

qasdfdsaq

And all he wanted in exchange was a cryptovalentine. Whatever that is.

Anonymous

What is the point of encrypting messages, when the recipient needs to decrypt them?

Anonymous

7:52 PM

@allquixotic thank you for the help: freeswitch.org/jira/browse/FS-8834

Psycogeek

8:02 PM

superuser.com/questions/1039137/… <--- i never promised you a rose garden :-)

Anonymous

Is there an easy way to see the debian version of a fedora package?

allquixotic

8:47 PM

@onebree Can you clarify what you're asking a bit?

DavidPostill

@Psycogeek lol

Looks like a spammer who failed to include the payload

Rule #3: Spammers are stupid.

Krueger's Corollary: Spammer lies are really stupid.
Pickett's Commentary: Spammer lies are boring.
Russell's Corollary: Never underestimate the stupidity of spammers.
Spinosa's Corollary: Spammers assume everybody is more stupid than themselves.
Spammer's Standard of Discourse: Threats and intimidation trump facts and logic.

bruce.pennypacker.org/2005/02/28/the-rules-of-spam

The rules of spam ;)

Psycogeek

They kind of forget the #1 rule of marketing, always make your customers really angry, they are then very willing to give money to you :-)

Morgan Thrapp

9:12 PM

Hey, quick question, is there a way to get a list of IP's associated with a windows firewall rule in powershell?

I tried

Get-NetFirewallRule | where {$_.Direction -eq "Inbound" -and (($_.Profile -contains "Any") -or ($_.Profile -contains "Public")) -and $_.Action -eq "Allow"}

, but it doesn't list the actual IP associated with the rule.

allquixotic

9:29 PM

@MorganThrapp Good question, but a lot of googling turned up nothing on my end :/ at least not for Get-NetFirewallRule... you'd probably have dig deeper into some .NET based API for querying the Windows Advanced Firewall to get it

Morgan Thrapp

Yeah, I've spent the last hour googling/poking at things with no luck. :/

qasdfdsaq

Wanna hear a bad joke? How many brees does it take to change a libvpx2 version?

allquixotic

@qasdfdsaq One. >_<

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq Are you hoping to get flagged?

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic None. It was there the whole time. They just forgot to update locate.

allquixotic

9:33 PM

@qasdfdsaq It was a legitimate issue with the package repos. They depend on the wrong version of libvpx2 in the metadata for the freeswitch package for Jessie.

She filed a legitimate bug report on the freeswitch jira.

Seth

Does anyone here have a good database for every single sound issue for win7 known by mankind?

qasdfdsaq

@allquixotic That's why it's a joke

allquixotic

@Seth My brain?

Seth

@all

oops

qasdfdsaq

@Seth Stackexchange

I hear they have a good Q&A site where everything is answered.

Seth

9:35 PM

The question that I have has not been answered :/

qasdfdsaq

It's been answered, you're just searching for the wrong keywords

allquixotic

Ask it, then

qasdfdsaq

Or that ^^

Seth

It has been asked already c:

DavidPostill

@Seth That's because you haven't asked it yet.

allquixotic

9:35 PM

Linky?

Seth

0

A: Windows audio breaks when playing sound from different sources

I feel silly suggesting this as the answer, it seems too simple. Can't you go to the audio source's properties. Then on the Advanced tab uncheck "Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device" to fix this?

qasdfdsaq

Audio drivers and audio service are the culprits. Basically, the Windows software mixer is borked

allquixotic

@Seth by "sources" I assume you mean "programs"?

Seth

@allquixotic Everything that is capable of playing a sound, including windows 7 sound test.

I've never been stuck with a single problem for that long :|

allquixotic

@Seth which two specific programs are you using to test?

qasdfdsaq

9:39 PM

How long have you had this problem? Does safe mode make any difference?

Seth

Teamspeak3 and Firefox.

allquixotic

what within firefox? HTML5 video?

Seth

I've had this problem since I upgraded to an SSD this monday & reinstalled windows

Flash.

DavidPostill

@Seth That's not your question. Why don't you ask your own?

Seth

Because it asks for the exact same problem that I have :o

allquixotic

9:40 PM

set it to directsound and try again

Seth

Doesnt work :/

I have already tested it with different applications, too.

Mostly games.

If I start one of those at first, and then firefox, I do not receive sound from the video.

qasdfdsaq

Does setting it to not directsound make any difference?

Have you run dxdiag?

Seth

If I start firefox first, open the video, play it and open the application afterwards it works.

allquixotic

does the other app continue to work?

Seth

Yes.

If I refresh the video though it does not work anymore.

@qasdfdsaq Just ran it, no problems found.

allquixotic

9:43 PM

ok, go into your device manager under your sound device, properties, and find the PCI ID or USB ID and paste it here

Seth

This? USB\VID_046D&PID_0A1F&REV_0100&MI_00

qasdfdsaq

Urgh

allquixotic

yeah

qasdfdsaq

USB audio devices :-/

Seth

Yes. I am a terrible being & I will burn in hell for using this :D

But believe me, I suffer everyday for making this choice.

Is USB known to conflict with HDMI btw? Never heard of that, just checking all possibilities again.

qasdfdsaq

9:47 PM

Not with HDMI, but the ones I've come across have pretty shitty drivers

allquixotic

actually, most USB audio class devices just use the generic Microsoft driver for them, the manufacturer ships literally 0 bits of code to your machine

Seth

Idk, it's a logitech g930, I need the software for the surround sound

qasdfdsaq

That the shitty drivers are Microsoft's fault doesn't really change much...

allquixotic

I've never had this problem with a USB audio device before, though, and I've used many

Seth

The funny thing is: I changed exactly 2 things when I reinstalled windows

1.) I added a SSD

2.) I added a 2nd monitor (HDMI)

And I never ever ever had that problem before

qasdfdsaq

9:51 PM

If you reinstalled Windows you almost certainly reinstalled the driver too

Did you download it yourself? From where?

Seth

Which driver are we talking about? :o

I reinstalled all of them, yes

What I meant before is that everything should be as it was before apart from those 2 factors.

qasdfdsaq

You sure you installed the exact same driver and version?

Seth

Not the same version I'd guess

Uhh.... I'm confused. I just tried to use the microsoft problem solver thing & checked Realtek with it, and it shows me that no devices are plugged in

But I'm listening to music as of right now

qasdfdsaq

Logitech != Realtek

Seth

Realtek is used for the onboard sound card :)

Or, atleast it should be used for that

Logitech Software is basically doing nothing except for creating the virtual 7.1 surround sound

qasdfdsaq

9:58 PM

So which one are you having problems with

Seth

Apparently realtek, I reinstalled that twice though.

qasdfdsaq

So why did you give us a Logitech device ID?

Seth

That's embarassing. Sorry.

qasdfdsaq

Seeing as you have two separate devices, do they both not work? Or does one work but not the other?

Seth

I kinda dont want to waste your time anymore. I'm sort of a noob when it comes to hardware, I'm just developing, that's all I do.

They in fact both appear to be working at first glance since I can listen to stuff, but I cannot listen to sound from multiple applications

qasdfdsaq

10:01 PM

Right, but do they both have problems with multiple applications or just one?

Can you listen to one program on the internal sound card and a different program with the headset?

Seth

Uhm. It sort of works like this (IF I GOT IT RIGHT!): ... -> Sound card -> Logitech software -> Output

I have the same problem if I uninstall the software though

qasdfdsaq

Do you have a Logitech USB headset or not?

Seth

Yes, I do

qasdfdsaq

The USB headset has nothing to do with the sound card. They are two entirely separate devices.

Seth

Oh.

Okay.

qasdfdsaq

10:03 PM

The headset basically has its own built-in sound card

Seth

Thanks for pointing that out :D

Oh, I see.

qasdfdsaq

They work separately, and have different drivers. That's why it's important to know which works, and if they both behave the same way

The Realtek sound card is only used if you plug a 3.5mm audio device directly into the motherboard.

Seth

OH

Well, fml I guess, wasted around about 4 hours looking for known problems with the onboard sound card

I cannot really test the sound card then since I lack a second output device

DavidPostill

@Seth That's why I said "That's not your question. Why don't you ask your own?" ;)

Seth

@DavidPostill You were right :/ Sorry.

DavidPostill

10:07 PM

We should rename this room from "Root Access" to "Free Realtime Tech Support" :/

qasdfdsaq

I would point people at Journeyman Geek's message saying RA isn't a good place to ask questions, questions should be asked on the main site.

But when I do that people yell at me for being unhelpful

DavidPostill

That's all we seem to have done for the last 4 hours ....

Seth

That's why I said that I want to stop wasting everybody's time now. Thanks a lot for the help, I hope I'll find the solution :) And sorry again :C

qasdfdsaq

Well someone managed to help onebree. Though I'm not sure I did much but insult people while allquixotic helped

DavidPostill

The trouble is a one line quick question isn't always a one line quick answer ...

Michael Frank

11:22 PM

@DavidPostill How do gravity waves work? ;)

DavidPostill

@MichaelFrank You missed this?

Michael Frank

That's way more than a one line answer! :o

But yes, I did see it earlier. Very cool.

qasdfdsaq

That also only explains what they are, not how they work.

DavidPostill

@qasdfdsaq Perhaps you could answer the question then?

qasdfdsaq

If Einstein couldn't answer it I don't think I can

DavidPostill

11:35 PM

I thought they were predicted from General Relativity?

einstein-online.info/elementary/gravWav

Journeyman Geek

11:59 PM

@allquixotic Yes, she does seem to favour the snauzer side more ;p

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