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hm.
Dropping off the brix for repairs, dropping by the old workplace to pay for and pick up my antman crew hoodie, and probably going to pick up a replacement for the brix at SLS
cause ugh, I need a reliable home server. I suspect one reason the brix is dying so much is its fanless and overheats a lot
Looking at one of these
And probably upping the ram to 8gb (4gb from the brix, another 4gb) so I can run VMs more easily
Not sure if I'll dualboot. I want linux, and it feels like a better idea to run it on the msata. Probably will just image the windows install for future use tho
Folks, would this be on-topic for SuperUser? Should I migrate it, or let it rot where it fel?
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Q: OTG-USB: Can a device be charged and offer a USB and an ethernet conection at the same time?

ForivinI have a device that supports OTG over it's micro usb port. I'm looking for a device that connects to that micro usb port and offers a female micro usb port for charging, a female USB port for flash drives etc and a female Ethernet port for connecting to the Internet. Let me try to visualize t...

'device' is a bit problematic here.
If it isn't a PC (or maybe a tablet) its off topic.
@JourneymanGeek It's about a tablet.
Might check with the android peeps since USB OTG is somewhat more common on android
@NickAlexeev THe sentiments on tablets here is complex
We allowed tablets cause of windows RT
Which has gone the way of the Norweigian Blue
Bob
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@JourneymanGeek There's plenty of x86 tablets now, though.
00:52
Yup
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And they largely behave like traditional PCs.
But It feels like the question is insufficiently precise
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shrug dunno
does it matter if they're actually asking about x86 tablets if the answer applies equally?
01:19
It might be on topic here
It might also be specific to...
Though, is this really a hardware recommendation?
> I'm looking for a device that connects to that micro usb port and offers a female micro usb port for charging, a female USB port for flash drives etc and a female Ethernet port for connecting to the Internet.
So definately off topic here
Alright, I'm back in class, so I may not be able to respond in a timely fashion. See ya in a bit.
01:42
Oooh, mobile chat is shiny and pretty
think a usb audio module (connected with headset + mic) will have bandwidth problems using a usb hub (2.0)?
Oooh, the mobile chat is shiny and pretty!
...and bugged.
@jiggunjer chances are no
Audio is suprisingly low bandwidth
02:13
@jiggunjer not even -- you couldn't have a ton of them on a single USB 2.0 controller, but one (plus a keyboard/mouse) is fine. it's explicitly designed to handle workloads like that.
Don't you people ever sleep?
02:26
Ah, so that's how you get to 100k rep!
(Well certainly not at 10.30 in the morning)
 
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05:48
Google employee testing USB Type-C cabling and adapters. Faulty cable had power polarity reversed (Vbus connect to ground and vice versa) which blew his Chromebook Pixel.
No doubt a lawsuit will be filed and it will likely have Google's powerhouse legal team behind it.
Sadly, I'm likely not the sort of talent Google wants.
Top companies want highly-talented, deeply creative, quick-thinking people. That's not me.
...and these are not exactly trainable skills.
They want people from Harvard, Columbia, and other top-flight universities. I'm studying at a public college. Not a bad college by any means, but not the level of talent they expect.
Where you study has nothing to do with any of those traits.
(Yes, my college has had alumni hired at Google, but your chances of getting hired at top companies such as Microsoft or Google coming out of a public college, even with honors, are much lower than if you're coming out of an Ivy League university or other top-tier institution.)
I mean, I flunked uni twice. I applied anyway and if I get an interview most of what I have in my favour isn't school.
I'm academically one of the best students at my college, but my social skills fall well short of what is expected in a modern workplace.
It's experience - if you're a coder, github is your best resume and passion.
06:00
It's this secret sauce that makes you a good mod. My answers may be detailed and precise, but that says nothing as to whether I'd be a good leader.
Social skills are learnt
I spent 2 years a total recluse. Online and off.
To tell you the truth, I'm not really into coding. I'm into computer technology.
This is why I'm mainly seeking an IT career path, although I've spent enough time coding to take a career in software development.
Ahh. Still not found the way to break through the hr firewall there.
I have a little bit of stuff on GitHub but nothing serious. It's mainly an old, forgotten benchmark that I attempted to adapt to 64-bit systems, with some success.
So, there's the big question.... How do you translate passion and skill into a one page resume?
I've had a total of one interview 2 rejections and a few dozen blackholed applications so far.
One rejection was due to geography. The other was a form letter.
Then you worry about social skills.
And I find the secret sauce as you say is to listen first.
06:09
Please pin this.
On mobile. Running some errands :p
And the best lessons are internalised
My experience tells me there's one thing in common with the best leaders: they are calm, cool, and collected.
My record here on chat has been the exact opposite of this, to the point where I nearly got myself suspended on the main site.
Oct 21 '15 at 2:45, by DragonLord
Effective immediately, I'm going to be making major changes aimed at addressing self-control issues that have repeatedly cropped in this chat room. My focus will be on being a calm and stoic person at all times, never losing control of myself, so that I can always act in a constructive and controlled manner even under the difficult conditions. I will not let anything like this happen again.
My word still stands.
Oct 21 '15 at 2:10, by Journeyman Geek
The next request to be suspended may be entertained.
That's how close I've gotten to getting suspended.
2016 will be a year of dramatic change for me as I pull through my final semester of graduate studies and I hope I pull it off.
Being calm at all times facilitates agile, creative thinking, and this is just the beginning.
Self-control is everything.
The Stanford marshmallow experiment was a series of studies on delayed gratification in the late 1960s and early 1970s led by psychologist Walter Mischel, then a professor at Stanford University. In these studies, a child was offered a choice between one small reward provided immediately or two small rewards if they waited for a short period, approximately 15 minutes, during which the tester left the room and then returned. (The reward was sometimes a marshmallow, but often a cookie or a pretzel.) In follow-up studies, the researchers found that children who were able to wait longer for the preferred...
> In follow-up studies, the researchers found that children who were able to wait longer for the preferred rewards tended to have better life outcomes, as measured by SAT scores, educational attainment, body mass index (BMI), and other life measures.
By the way, new mechanical keyboard is due to arrive tomorrow.
Very tempting...
06:26
@bwDraco funny thing is? I'm an impulsive hothead by nature. That said I'm a self aware impulsive hothead :p
And well , self awareness is why I stop and count to ten before getting the rolled up newspaper of moderation.
Oct 21 '15 at 1:55, by Journeyman Geek
So here's the thing. I'm mad at you. I'm not going to consider suspending you till I'm not mad at you.
This is the one coping step I fail to take—the one that ruins me.
I don't stop and think. I just act.
The alternative would be to call in a cooler head.
Used to do that. Gets messy.
@JourneymanGeek This is why I've repeatedly proposed becoming calm and stoic.
Oct 21 '15 at 2:45, by DragonLord
Effective immediately, I'm going to be making major changes aimed at addressing self-control issues that have repeatedly cropped in this chat room. My focus will be on being a calm and stoic person at all times, never losing control of myself, so that I can always act in a constructive and controlled manner even under the difficult conditions. I will not let anything like this happen again.
Calmness is control.
06:31
I don't do that. Tried that. The breakdowns are epic.
@JourneymanGeek Explain how this doesn't work?
Simply, you are repressing - and pressure builds up and booom.
Oddly enough, I haven't had this strategy backfire catastrophically in the fashion you seem to be describing.
See, the approach I take is to try to calm down as quickly as possible (isolate myself, breathe, relax) and then think about it.
Unfortunately, my tendency to shoot first and ask questions later breaks this.
I actually let my anger pass on its own.
I just step away from the cause if possible.
Mental stability is a cornerstone of my approach to self-discipline.
The idea is to stabilize as quickly as possible, and to implement measures that aim to ensure stability under adverse conditions.
Being calm at all times is the end goal.
By ensuring stability, you can make better decisions more easily.
It helps to avoid the tensions that arise when you need to make a decision that would otherwise need a lot of willpower.
In essence, a stable state is one where you won't act on impulse. Calmness is directly correlated to stability.
06:46
And. I think I'm getting a second one replacement motherboard on my brix....
@bwDraco I suppose you can try that.
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A: What is a Dyson Sphere around a planet called?

lbotinellyA Dyson Sphere focus on energy capture - and since that point would be moot, here's some suggestions: Orbital Eggshell Crumbling Civilization Obfuscator Mk I Magrathean homework assignment

That was hilarious.
07:18
Hm. So, seems that this model of brix suffers from a tendency to die due to random shorts....
Bleh.
07:56
how can I set ZSH to have same behaviour for searching history (for half finished commands) as CSH has by default?
08:07
Oo
That sounds like the kernel of an su question.
Or U&L
And ewwwww csh
Picked up phoebe mk II. Braswell based asrock B box. Setting it up with 8 GB of ram. Need to decide if I want to move my old install over or if I should nuke and pave.
Little help with js, an event is registered as `document.addEventListener('keydown', this.onKeyDown.bind(this));`and in the function prototype of the call, it's as `ThreeMaze.prototype.onKeyDown = function(evt)
{`
this is essentially the current object rifht
But the onKeyDown method needs an event and not a object
I'm confused
@JourneymanGeek nice, another pc :D
Okay I think I figured it out
nvm
read the docs ;p
@HackToHell brix crapped out twice :(
@HackToHell you are doing it wrong
08:13
Lucky for me it is under warranty and I had the time.
@HackToHell first of all you should be asking it in:
But I rather not have to worry when my only Linux box is going to fail. Even if I moved things out.
@tereško I prefer this place ;p
@JourneymanGeek whoa that sucks
Crappy hardware manufacturer ?
Gigabyte used to be OK...
Might be a dud model. It runs somewhat hot
The beebox has a fan
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08:30
@JourneymanGeek That was fast. So much for the 3 month rule? :P
@Bob meh.
Yeah, impulse buy. I should probably go bop myself in the snout with a rolled up newspaper
That said, this is a replacement for a device that has failed twice in 6 months
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@JourneymanGeek How much was it? :P
And how big is it?
Kinda wondering why you didn't just go with a NUC
08:52
@Bob cheaper than an NUC.
~400 SGD with 2gb of ram (Which I'll move to the brix), 32gb storage (Not sure if its a eMMC or msata yet). Has 2x HDMI and 1x DP out, and 2 slots for ram
I got 2x 4gb of ram for ~ 60 more
How do you keep button on?
equivilent NUC is 459 without ram
I am not sure I did the right thing by using superglue...
Its a core i3 and I don't think it supports a 2.5 inch drive
@Boris_yo friction. The trackpoint should just slip in and stay there
@Bob there's cheape brix and cubi models I suppose
Oh, and this has USB C!
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@JourneymanGeek o.O
09:01
@Boris_yo do you actually use it? If "no", then the answer is super-glue.
@tereško Not actively. Sometimes I use it but it got worser sensitivity since I applied small amnount of glue.
applies liberal amounts of rolled up newspaper snoutings
you probably can just but a replacement keyboard for something like $30
Unless there's a specific reason, no not superglue
.. though, if you re in Israel, it might be closer to $50
09:05
There's supposed to be a slightly undersized square hole there which friction fits
If you used superglue and its messed up
Its your own darned fault.
09:18
hm
The brix is in a reboot loop 0_0
09:29
As long as it is not brixed.
oh it was fscked.
I want a cheap afforable NUC with a nice Xeon-D.
lol
The new one's a quad core, up to 16 gb of ram
Getting 128gb of ram in a NUC would be... amusing
mini ITX is the sensible size for that IMO
09:37
2 or 3 full sized PCI-e slots in a NUC would also be nice
erm
It won't be a NUC any more ;p
And space for ahlf a dozen drives
and ... :)
and ...
:)
and ...
In a lync all staring 8 mins ago... waiting for the other person to show up
The whole point of one of these is I can slap on a stick or two of ram, a HDD (and my new one has emmc + msata + sata, and I might be able to swap the wifi card out for a m2 storage device in theory) for somewhere under 500 dollars
hm. Decisions decisions. Do I rebuild this box with fedora only (and have much pain with samba), ubuntu or run the file server and torrent box as a VM....
Or run windows ;p
09:56
Or xen it and run both?
os ESXi it. :)
I should see if ESXi runs
Not fired it up yet, Still getting stuff off the old box
Ditto here. I now know that the HW in the new box works. Time to save keys and wipe it.
hm
Old box rebooted again mid copy
Wonder if its a bum kernel.
Would be wierd but its happened before
Bob
Bob
10:32
@JourneymanGeek Pocket dimensions? :D
A BOH NUC
(Bag of holding)
NUC: data center edition. :)
11:04
ugh
I was struggling for ~10 minutes with a non booting beebox cause I didn't quite have the ram right
Do I need to cehck that link on Meta or can I just assume. We have X standard, lets do it better. We now have X+1 standards. :)
;p
We probably could actually do that more easily than TCWs
@Bob just curious - how do you tend to run backups of your windows/ emmc devices?
0_0
The default install on this has nearly zero crapware
11:21
@JourneymanGeek I bought laptop just to run some software with database remotely from other room. Do you mean to say that today I just can get NUC which is more suitable for such as well as having it as a server for streaming and VPN? I am slightly behind times...
lol
NUCs are basically the perfect media center machines
I just use em as home servers cause they're quiet and cheap
@Hennes You got it ;)
11:57
@JourneymanGeek Can they be reliable for sensitive transactions through VPN?
They're no more or less secure than any system
@JourneymanGeek More secure than coffee shops in the middle of nowhere.
12:32
How do I invite someone to a chat room?
DIE CLIPPY, WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!
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12:45
@ThatBrazilianGuy I don't think it's possible (unless the user is already in some chat room with you). See meta.stackexchange.com/questions/57537/…
If you are both in the same room you can click on his avatar (top right) and the click "start a new room with this user"
You can @jmg here and ask him to join you over there ---> ;)
What? Who? Where? What are you talking about? I have no idea, sir.
You need to be quicker deleting your posts ;)
13:24
@ThatBrazilianGuy I think you can do that from the user's chat profile
Also, out at the moment.
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@JourneymanGeek Uhm... ... ... I don't? :P
I really should set up a network backup with Acronis or something
At the moment i just keep important files synced, or copy them periodically to a portable HDD
Sorry ,was caught up in a game.
(Sven Co-op. Great game. The standalone 5.0 release came out a week ago.)
13:53
Ahh. OK. Trying to work out if I want to keep the option of running windows, back it up and wipe or just wipe.
14:22
I suck
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@qasdfdsaq Are you masquerading as a vacuum cleaner? ;)
can we get that stickied forever? ;P
@Burgi Which one?
14:37
15 mins ago, by qasdfdsaq
I suck
Hmm. I could I suppose ... ;)
its not bullying because it was @qasdfdsaq himself that said it...
It would be a bit mean, and probably abuse of my room owner powers ...
I can always unstick it later ... ;)
heh
i have a seriously crazy issue
trying to install an SSL on one of the servers i admin and it magically vanishes
@Burgi I wonder if @qasdfdsaq forgot to lock his phone/computer/tablet/whatever?
14:44
naw, he's entirely capable of trolling himself...
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@DavidPostill /front door
@Burgi If there is some other meaning to "/front door" please let me know ...
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A door that's a fake to protect the real door?
Ah, light bulb moment. He forgot to lock his front door!
Or he's been hacked
14:53
I hate myself.
I hate my life.
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o.O
I hate EVERYTHING.
ARGH. One of those days headdesk
Quick, I need some cat pictures to save me.
!!taytaytay
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Even the bot has forsaken you :P
14:55
@Bob Close enough <3
What's the reason these pencils are so dirt cheap?
14:59
yeah sorry i meant he forgot to lock the front door
My ex owners ...
i miss having a cat
Me too :/
right. Got the HDD from the old linux box into the new linux box, I need to try to see if I can get the old linux box up again since wierdly it kept crashing, upgraded the ram on my laptop with the ram from the old linux box. ^^
8gb a piece on my home server and laptop, 16 on my gaming box
and in theory the beebox can go up to 16
@DavidPostill We tend to be dog people ;p
15:14
@DavidPostill Me three
Urgh. £5 for plain chips. Expensiveeeee
chips in the american, british or 'biblical' sense?
Chips in the... these sense?
I dunno if they're american or british
those are french fries. Or maybe chips in the british sense, but I thought you guys cut them thicker.
15:31
Well, yeah. I dunno the thickness of the ones I'm gonna get cause they're not here yet.
Most of our online ordering restaurant things dont have pictures
15:42
@DavidPostill Wait, both of them?
@qasdfdsaq The cats? Yes.
Cute.
Thanks. They are dutch cats and stayed in NL with my ex.
The first is an british short hair pedigree. The black one is from a litter of a wild cat.
The first one almost looks ginger
She is called Isis (which was amusing for a while)
15:51
Hm there seem to be apis only to get accelerometer data from js in android
But google's star wars thingy definitely uses gyro
Is it some undocumented stuff ?
Welp, new keyboard just arrived.
Stupid FedEx never rang the doorbell.
I'm pretty sure there's an official way to get gyro data, plenty of apps use it
16:13
Afternoon ( / $localtime) all
16:35
I've barely scratched the surface of what this keyboard can do.
16:49
@bwDraco it theoretically could type every book ever!
I've a reproducible hard Windows lockup that appears when I press PrtScrn (and other unrelated things), drivers updated, memory checks out- any suggestions what to check next?
I'm still struggling to find a color scheme for my taste in the ROCCAT Swarm software.
The amount of control over the backlighting available is simply mind-boggling.
Also, it seems my typing is slightly more accurate with this keyboard.
It's much heavier than my Isku. Metal construction is typical for a high-end mechanical keyboard.
Cherry MX Brown switches have a soft detent just before the actuation point. 45 cN is a bit light for my taste but I'll get used to it.
17:30
What is it with people and multi-megaton powersupplies for simple graphics cards?
@Hennes Like my 1200W PSU for two HD7970s (now upgraded to one GTX 980)?
justifiable originally, I think ;p
@Hennes People falling for misinformation and marketing hyperbole
Thankfully a few sites are realising this and emphasising <600w PSUs
I edited a post ealier where a ATI 5770 was acting up. A max 86 Watt 5770.... And the OP was worried about having only 450W
And mot much else in the system
17:46
@Hennes How about my system, which has 4 x 4 TB 7200rpm HDDs, a GTX 980, a PCIe RAID and sound card, and a lot of USB devices connected directly to the system (not through a powered hub)? :P
I got suprised by HW RAID drawing 20 Watt
4 HDDs... 20-30w. Sound card + RAID... 20-30w. GTX 980... 250w.
Main desktop is a X58, i7-920, (was a ) AMD 5870, 4x1TB SATA, HW RAID, 1x 140GiB SAS and some minor stuff like SSDs, a quad fans (at 3 Watt each_ etc
You'd be fine with a 500w, like 90% of people.
Aye
600 Watt should be plenty for all bar dual top of line GPU configs (and 600 is 100 reserve)
17:49
I had an overclicked X58 with an i7 980x, 2x 5870s and something like ten drives.
But my main grip was that the focus was on the wrong item.
Oh noes. I have 450 Watt, while 480 is recommneded
My 550w GPU was averaging like 300w during gaming.
But 300W or even 250W would have been fine
@Hennes Not to mention the recommendations are already based on bloated, worst case figures
I spiked up to 300W during gaming plus OC (with a 600W PSU)
Aye. Not a bad thing to put out if you are a manufacturer and want to play it safe
17:50
Had a similar question a few months back, "I have a 600w and I think I don't have enough power, do I need to upgrade to 750w?" <List of components> "Err, you need a 300w.
But I might put out a canonical "How big does my PSU Need to be post
To be fair, STO with unlocked framerate was causing significant, repeatable PSU problems with people before they introduced the frame rate limiter
(Of course, all my quoted figures are based on reliable, quality PSUs that can output their rated power at 40'c 24/7)
Most quality PSUs can output 20-25% higher than the rated power for short periods.
STO utilized the GPU a lot more than many people expected, so they could play 10 lower-spec games just fine with no problems, but had a power draw spike when running STO, which borked their underspecced PSU
Well that's hardly STO's fault.
I wouldn't be surprised if any high-end game didn't do the same... Crysis anyone?
I chose to play it safe and provide for superior future upgradability (in case I decide to go quad Titan X), and buy a high-quality and high-wattage PSU for like $100 more than merely a high-quality, lower-wattage PSU
Will put out a bounty tomorrow
Go claim easy points
do I want to save $100, or just not care how much stuff I throw at my PSU, ever, no matter what?
I'll take not caring, thanks
While it's generally better to overspec than underspec, it's still going to result in inefficiency.
To the extent that some pre-haswell CPUs were too powerful and would crash the system with new CPUs because they used too little power.
I did the "Spend an extra $40 on the PSU so I never have to worry" myself, but only because it's rated to be extremely efficient even at lower power levels, and completely passive (fanless) at my normal use levels
If I build a dual/quad-Xeon server with 32 hard drives five years down the line, I can shove this PSU in there without a problem.
So is my Corsair HX (AX?) extremely efficient at lower power levels? :P
17:56
Define low power levels.
Most efficiency ratings only go down to 50% load
my UPS says I'm drawing 225W while running the Windows desktop (browser, Spotify, etc)
I think the first ever titanium rated <700w supply was just recently released
so if a 1200W PSU is asking for 225W, that means the underlying hardware is only asking for... what? 200W? 150W?
My UPS adds about 30% inefficiency to my setup :-/
Do you have the HX1200 or the HXi 1200?
Err... AX
> You purchased this item on April 30, 2012.
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