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@ThatBrazilianGuy with a bit of exercise you could run/cycle that faster.
@Mokubai and end up all sweaty and tired in the middle of summer? D:
21:50
Interesting product. Ran the numbers through Google and it seems these cards are designed to handle 1.0 DWPD over 5 years.
Warranty is only two years, though, probably because of the intended application.
The 64 GB card is rated for 10,000 hours of HD video at 26 Mbps. This is 117 TBW.
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@bwDraco DWPD?
Drive writes per day. The number of full drive capacity writes the drive can handle each day for a given service life (typically five years).
Anonymous
mm
Seems SanDisk is using eMLC in these cards.
The cards are reasonably priced nonetheless.
22:19
About that flash drive I got yesterday: Considering that the drive uses TLC, I'm not going to want to do much more testing.
TLC has low endurance, especially with the lower-grade NAND used in inexpensive flash drives, and even with the aid of an SLC buffer.
AMD seems to be in financially worse shape than ever: anandtech.com/show/9976/…
@bwDraco It would be ridiculous to see them fail. They bring in a gross income on the order of 4 billion dollars per year, even in their current dilapidated state. A company should be able to have a positive bottom line with that kind of money coming in the door.
They're just being squeezed hard by the likes of Intel (with the rise of capable Intel GMA products and far superior CPUs), Nvidia (Maxwell was a bombshell, and Pascal will obsolete all AMD GPUs except perhaps Polaris), and even Qualcomm.
22:35
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Q: Does task manager run as administrator by default on Windows 10?

InsaneI was trying to close a non-responsive process, and after the first time I clicked "End Process", nothing happened. So I did it again and this time a window popped up saying "Access is Denied". Eventually the process did close, but this got me thinking.. If I had ran task manager as an administr...

@allquixotic It seems like AMD is spending insane amounts of R&D.
@Insane Even an administrator account doesn't always "Run as Administrator".
@MichaelFrank Yes but I'm talking specifically about task manager
@allquixotic Polaris will obsolete all NVidia GPUs except Pascal too.
A bit of a Hail Mary pass of sorts, spending every resource available to make the very best products they can.
22:40
I know normally this is true but doesn't seem to be any difference at all. Previous Windows versions you had to run TM as Admin to see System processes
But I see all of them anyways
Or thats what I thought anyways
Anonymous
@Insane well I just:
Anonymous
1. opened taskmgr via a normal win+r
Anonymous
2. opened admin powershell via win+x
Anonymous
3. opened taskmgr through that admin powershell
@qasdfdsaq It remains to be seen if AMD will come up $100 too expensive and 3% slower like they did with the current gen, though.
Anonymous
22:41
and it didn't open a new window, it just showed me the same taskmgr window I had opened before
Fury X is a terrible deal compared to the 980 Ti, or even the 980.
Anonymous
so it seems you are right: it does run as admin
@allquixotic They will be releasing cheap, efficient parts first.
Ha-hah!
Anonymous
@allquixotic i'd still buy a fury x just to help AMD not die
22:42
@PatoSáinz More money than sense.
Buy what's good for you as a gamer.
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@allquixotic to not have a monopoly
Anonymous
:)
Buying a single card isn't going to save AMD, and 99% of the consumers buy what's better, not just trying to prop up a company.
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@allquixotic not actually, there are a lot of fanboys
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also, there isn't that big of a gap in price, is there?
22:45
@PatoSáinz You might as well buy AMD stock instead.
Consensus is Hold, though, and leaning very slightly towards Sell.
It's a bit of a gamble, but there's a shot it'll go up sharply if Zen and Polaris parts sell well.
@allquixotic I have more money than sense too!
Not particularly hard, when I have no sense.
But I'm still waiting for Polaris
@allquixotic 99% of consumers are why we need regulators, consumer protection laws, and competition commissions.
@allquixotic: So, if 99% of consumers buy what's better, and the Fury X is a terrible idea, why are there not 99x more 980 Ti owners than Fury X owners?
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@qasdfdsaq the fury x is not a terrible idea
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but what I like more is the R9 nano
(Neither of them have more than 0.3% market share, it seems)
Anonymous
because of the low TDP
Anonymous
22:59
and the cool form factor overall
Anonymous
I don't need to compute primes in my rig, play some games at medium-max in 50fps and the r9 nano does well
My GTX 970 has a lower TDP and a smaller form factor. And it's cheaper.
About the same performance per watt though. Unless I overclock it
The Nano would be a damn good card for watercooling though.
Probably better than the Fury X even
Anonymous
yeah
New mobile GTX 980MX is an upgrade from the GTX 980M, with 13 of 16 SMMs enabled, up from 12, and nearly matching the desktop GTX 970 wccftech.com/nvidia-maxwell-geforce-gtx-980mx-970mx
The only thing it's short on is memory bandwidth.
@bwDraco And a sensible name
Given they've gone so far rebadging everything from a 6xx to a 9xx why didn't they just rebadge it again to 1080M or something
Were they expecting most buyers to be too young to remember what GeForce MX's used to be like?
Incidentally a GeForce 2 MX was my first ever graphics card
23:23
@qasdfdsaq because there are probably many, many more owners of the regular 980 and even the 970, because most people rightly estimate they don't need the top-end power.
but at each price point in high-end desktop graphics, Nvidia is currently the winner in terms of price:performance ratio
@allquixotic But the number of owners of everything else is entirely irrelevant
The question is the ratio of 980 Ti owners to Fury X owners
99% of statistics are made up. ;p
This SanDisk flash drive has insanely high power consumption, peaking at 0.15A during writing and idling at 0.10 A. My other flash drives don't come anywhere near 0.10 A during idle.
Must be this rather complex controller.
Steam's hardware survey thankfully, isn't made up
SLC-buffered TLC. There can't be any other reason for this.
23:30
@qasdfdsaq quite-possibly fudged, though.
(influenced heavily by people deliberately trying to skew the numbers because they know people rely on them for 'real studies')
Your face is fudged.
This high power consumption also means that the drive gets remarkably warm during operation.
Closest I've gotten to an "SSD on a stick".
@DavidPostill I don't use norton at all. Haven't in years.
@qasdfdsaq on RA? We have no fury X users. THe 980TI is a beast, especially the OC versions ;p
@qasdfdsaq aww
@qasdfdsaq my first build had a matrox millenium 2
Best 2d card ever ;p
(then a gforce 3 made by creative, gforce 4mx....)
@allquixotic and efficiency, to an extent. Polaris looks interesting, but they need to be able to produce them at volume.
23:48
@JourneymanGeek I nearly purchased the Fury X, but decided to save $150 while getting a more-suited card to the games I was currently playing (and still am), Nvidia GameWorks games, so I went with the 980.
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@allquixotic thanks for contributing to the nvidia GameSabotage
Oh god. Soooo conspiracy theory.
@allquixotic has been an active proponent of AMD cards as long as I've known him.
"Decided to save $150" is a important point here
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@JourneymanGeek puts on tinfoil hat
Granted, I basically got the card that's the equivilent (or a step lower?) than the fury X. More video ram, and actually punches above its weight for my purposes.
@JourneymanGeek That's why they're going for the low end parts first (and why they're producing two architectures)
23:57
@qasdfdsaq also yield I suspect
which has always been a weakness for AMD
"Polaris 10" for high-volume, low-end/mainstream efficient parts and "Polaris 11" for, well. All out performance
Wouldn't be surprised if HBM2 came with Polaris 11
I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.
If you believe AMD's hype - "Biggest generational jump we've seen in a decade" - then it will be quite something
Anonymous
@allquixotic never asked why John Caven has to restart: is it a memory leak?
@qasdfdsaq and probably have 2-3 SKUs is they are smart, and design stuff to use dies with minor flaws ;p
23:59
But really I wouldn't be surprised if that's an understatement. We are on a 4-year-old manufacturing process after all.
@JourneymanGeek That's always been the case.
However they're hitting the market the opposite way round from Nvidia - low-end first, high-end later
@qasdfdsaq nvidia does that, clearly

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