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HackToHell

04:00

Timo The Cat And His Hammock Experiences (compilation)

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bwDraco

Whatever. Will be AFK for at least 15 minutes.

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek gnu.org/software/stow here it is

Journeyman Geek

@PatoSáinz web based RSS feed reader.

Anonymous

oh

Anonymous

> GNU Stow is a symlink farm manager which takes distinct packages of software and/or data located in separate directories on the filesystem, and makes them appear to be installed in the same place. For example, /usr/local/bin could contain symlinks to files within /usr/local/stow/emacs/bin, /usr/local/stow/perl/bin etc., and likewise recursively for any other subdirectories such as .../share, .../man, and so on.

This is particularly useful for keeping track of system-wide and per-user installations of software built from source, but can also facilitate a more controlled approach to manage…

Faheem Mitha

04:11

@HackToHell Friend of yours?

@PatoSáinz Just what the world needs, another package manager.

Anonymous

@FaheemMitha for tarballs

HackToHell

@FaheemMitha naw, random video

Anonymous

in fact that's what the world needed

Anonymous

also

Anonymous

[ ] stow-1.3.2.tar.gz 1996-10-12 03:00 105K

Anonymous

04:13

that's older than most other package managers

Faheem Mitha

I don't know anything about stow. But there is an efflorescence of package managers.

Anonymous

@FaheemMitha yes

Faheem Mitha

More collaboration, less NIH.

For example, probably the world's most used package manager, Debian's dpkg, has precisely one person working on it.

Well, maybe not the most used. I'm not sure about OS X.

Anonymous

@FaheemMitha let's standardize on dnf/yum

Anonymous

fuck debian

Faheem Mitha

04:19

@PatoSáinz That's not very friendly.

Anonymous

@FaheemMitha OS X uses homebrew

Anonymous

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Faheem Mitha

@PatoSáinz Is that supported by Apple?

I mean, is it the official, approved, package management system?

Anonymous

@FaheemMitha there's no official package management system

Anonymous

other than maybe the Mac App Store

Faheem Mitha

04:25

@PatoSáinz Weird. But ok.

Anonymous

@FaheemMitha it's not weird at all

Anonymous

it's like windows

Faheem Mitha

The question is then how many people are using Homebrew. Vs Debian and its derivatives.

bwDraco

@PatoSáinz openSUSE ships official Stow packages: software.opensuse.org/package/stow

Faheem Mitha

@PatoSáinz It's a Unix variant.

Anonymous

04:26

they don't have shit (other than .msi) and now we have nuget and chocolatey

Anonymous

@FaheemMitha a lot less using brew

Anonymous

@FaheemMitha yea but that's like saying my LTE phone resembles what Graham Bell used in its time

Faheem Mitha

@PatoSáinz ok

There was something called Fink once.

Anonymous

@FaheemMitha did it work well?

Faheem Mitha

@PatoSáinz No idea. I've never used OS X.

I think it got mixed reviews.

Anonymous

04:27

mm

Anonymous

@bwDraco cool

bwDraco

I'm not sure if you've heard of this before, but it seems even flash drives use SLC-buffered TLC these days.

Faheem Mitha

Apparently still exists - finkproject.org

Anonymous

well I'm off to bed

Anonymous

@FaheemMitha ahh but that's a whole userland

Anonymous

04:29

including apt-get

Anonymous

brew is just a package manager from which you can update your whole gnu userland to a more sensible version... because apple ships ancient bash, modified cat, etc.

Faheem Mitha

04:43

@PatoSáinz I thought homebrew and fink were comparable.

Journeyman Geek

05:22

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bwDraco

Little hunter. rawr

X axis is 1.06 seconds a tick, Y axis is write speed in MiB/s.

Generated using Iometer. 2 GB test file, 4 MB sequential writes.

6 hours ago, by bwDraco

Interesting behavior. The drive seems to be SLC-cached TLC.

Bob

06:21

forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/…

LOL

> There is an app called "Security" on it which does nothing but slow my phone down and show p*rn in my notification area.

> Security doesn't slow your phone neither sho porn. Actually is the Notepad app that shows porn and apps to download.

Oh that's such a relief that it isn't App A showing porn notifications! Nah, it's just App B instead.

Psycogeek

a notepad that shows porn, I think I need that.

bwDraco

@Bob I find it ironic to have bought a flash drive that uses TLC NAND after reading PCWorld's scathing TLC NAND SSD reviews. pcworld.com/article/3000913/storage/…

It is rather surprising that a cheap flash drive would have a controller capable of doing SLC buffering for TLC NAND...

Bob

06:41

@bwDraco ...meh, won't notice it for most uses

And it's certainly possible for TLC to maintain good performance with sustained write: anandtech.com/show/8747/samsung-ssd-850-evo-review/2

bwDraco

That's with loads of NAND. That level of parallelism is just not possible on a $13 flash drive.

It's also 3D NAND.

Bob

@bwDraco Not 3D NAND, still fine: anandtech.com/show/7173/…

@bwDraco 'course not, but that was a counter to your BX200 review, which is most certainly not a $13 flash drive.

It all depends on your expectations.

What do you expect from $13? What do you expect from a tiny little stick? What do you expect from USB?

You can certainly buy flash drives that can attain and sustain much higher r/w. They're not even that expensive, though reliability is often questionable.

OTOH, when I'm bulk buying drives I can give away, I don't really care about speeds.

bwDraco

Wrote this in my Amazon review:

> This may seem to be poor performance, but bear in mind that the drive is made to a price point and this is precisely where SLC-buffered TLC makes sense, so I'm not going to deduct any stars for this.

Bob

I can get a SanDisk Cruzer Facet 8 GB for <$3.

It's not fast. Something like 10 MB/s read/4 MB/s write, if even that.

But for $3? Sure!

Actually... might've been closer to $2. shrug

If I want something fast? I'll have to spend the $20-$30 (@ 32-64 GB).

Journeyman Geek

Someone dumped a trashed apple cinema display.

Looks like they chopped off the wiring and the panel is delaminated so not worth rescuing.

bwDraco

06:51

I've actually been in talks with an AnandTech editor on this rather unexpected behavior for a flash drive.

@anandtech @tomshardware @storagereview Even #USB flash drives can have SLC-buffered TLC NAND. https://twitter.com/bwDraco/status/689320776328187904 #FlashStorage

Tweeted by bwDraco on January 19, 2016 at 5:44 AM

Bob

Heh. Nice.

bwDraco

@bwDraco Thanks! We have focused on performance / capacity oriented drives for review purposes, and we never considered getting this in

Tweeted by ganeshts on January 19, 2016 at 6:42 AM in reply to bwDraco

HackToHell

@bwDraco Cool, that flash drive is pretty cheap too

bwDraco

I put almost an entire drive write on it during testing.

I probably wrote about 20-25 GB onto the drive during the Iometer tests.

Hennes

08:32

Morning

Journeyman Geek

-5

Q: My site is not accessible from Mars

I am using a CentOS 7 and Apache 2.4 to host my host and I can access it via SSH. I have disabled stopped firewall (systemctl start firewalld.service and even service iptables stop) and turned off selinux (setenforce 0). Yet, it's not possible to reach the website and http requests time out. What...

HackToHell

09:01

So many damn nosql database

HackToHell

09:30

wat couchdb.apache.org

Burgi

09:41

hi, is this question superuser.com/questions/… off topic for SU?
I think it is a good question but would better suit security.SE just not quite sure

oops

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Q: Can I use a satellite phone for 2 factor auth sms and such?

Would 2 factor authentication SMS messages or other kinds of internet security notifications work with satellite phones? E.g. companies like Google, Paypal, Facebook, banking institutions and others would still send/recognize phone numbers associated with satellite carriers? Any experience?

authentication sms telephony two-factor-authentication telecommunication

Journeyman Geek

No PC involved I guess

and kinda speculative

Its one of those questions that isn't a really a good fit anywhere

Burgi

shame

i've flagged it

Bob

10:56

@JourneymanGeek @Burgi Seems like it might actually work on webapps.se.

But I'm not sure.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob It really comes down to "does a satillite phone do SMS like any other phone" IMO

Bob

True.

Burgi

I just had a thought, if you are somewhere which requires a sat phone, you are going to struggle with internet connectivity. The question becomes null...

Michael Frank

@Burgi What about an area with dial up, but no cell towers?

Burgi

hmm.... do places like that exist?

you only need a 2G connection to receive the SMS

Bob

11:10

@MichaelFrank Hell, there are plenty of places with no mobile reception.

Welcome to Australia.

Though you could probably get a picocell at home.

Or an external antenna.

telcoantennas.com.au/site/14dbi-yagi-directional-antenna

Michael Frank

@Bob I was 25 minutes out of a decent sized town here at New Years, and my phone had no signal. Yet the place I was staying had a LoS internet connection to a hill 2km away.

Burgi

I concede that point

I just remembered that even in the UK there are places like that

i went camping in northumberland last summer. no phone, FM or TV signals but they

grrrr

but ever pub had superfast wifi from a microwave relay tower

*every

if you add those sentences together you will get something close to a valid statement

Bob

@Burgi You can edit old messages.

Either press up, or click the arrow to the left.

Two minute window to edit.

Burgi

ah good to know

DavidPostill

!!s/ever pub /every pub/

ChatBot John Cavil

11:21

@DavidPostill *everyy (source)

@DavidPostill but every pubhad superfast wifi from a microwave relay tower (source)

DavidPostill

!!s/pubhad/pub had/

ChatBot John Cavil

@DavidPostill @DavidPostill but every pub had superfast wifi from a microwave relay tower (source) (source)

DavidPostill

@Burgi That's how to fix it after 2 minutes ;) (lol it took me 3 attempts to get it right)

Burgi

heh

Burgi

11:43

is there an automated limit at which spam messages get deleted?

Journeyman Geek

5 or 6

Burgi

thought so

DavidPostill

11:55

5 or 6 spam flags. Unfortunately some people VTC instead of flagging as spam.

Hennes

12:40

Re fast USB. I want fast USB pendrives. Sadly thr 64GB HyperX (USB3) keeps dropping its connection while the slow (10MB/sec read, 4MB/sec write) drives just takes again but finish without faults

Burgi

13:07

do aged away flags have a negative impact on my ability to raise flags?

DavidPostill

As far as I am aware - no.

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi I don't think so

but flags rarely age away

DavidPostill

I have 11 aged away from 943 in 1 year, 7 months

Burgi

13:22

105	post flags
7 	waiting for review
82 	helpful
4 	declined
4 	disputed
8 	aged away

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, relatively rare?

30

Q: When are moderator flags automatically dismissed as "aged away" by the system?

Moderator flags can be dismissed as aged away. What does this dismiss reason mean? What causes flags to be dismissed with this reason? Do aged away flags affect my daily flag amount? Return to FAQ index

support flags faq-proposed aged-away

looks like they don't affect anything

Burgi

i suppose they are used for statistics then

thanks guys

jokerdino

Any neat trick to activate a steam account?

DavidPostill

I was just about to post the same :/

That Brazilian Guy

Hey hey hi hello

DavidPostill

13:29

@ThatBrazilianGuy Bom dia

That Brazilian Guy

@DavidPostill Guten tag!

DavidPostill

LOL. I'm not German ;)

That Brazilian Guy

Eu também, e eu não falo uma palavra de alemão. ;P

jokerdino

I can identify the word for word in portuguese.

That Brazilian Guy

~~Word-for-word? So, every word?~~ I'll just shut up.

jokerdino

13:32

palavra = word?

That Brazilian Guy

Sim, exatamente!

jokerdino

That comes from my limited español knowledge.

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy You are excused if you offer me a large caipirinha

I have fond memories of sitting in a beach bar somewhere in Brazil (I can't remember where - it was a long time ago) right next to the outdoor shower and drinking caipirinhas. I could watch the beach babes walk up and stand under the shower ... ;)

That Brazilian Guy

@jokerdino I was just last night talking to my wife about it.

We began jokingly speaking in broken Spanish, and wondered why the hell we Brazilians can sorta understand Spanish (if spoken very slowly) but native Spanish speakers usually can't understand Portuguese.

There's even a word for trying-to-speak-a-broken-spanish-by-mangling-Portuguese-words: "Portuñol".

@DavidPostill I can do that any weekend ;)

Obviously, minus the babewatching part ;P

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy Unless the "babe" is your wife? ;)

That Brazilian Guy

13:45

@DavidPostill If you're ever in Rio let me know and I can get you great drinks and sightseeing tips, specially on how to avoid tourist prices

jokerdino

@ThatBrazilianGuy sure thing

That Brazilian Guy

@DavidPostill She's a bit shy when it comes to walking on beach clothes.

DavidPostill

:/

That Brazilian Guy

(so am I -- in male beach clothes -- but I don't let it stop me from enjoying the water)

Yeah, almost every female friend of ours has said at least once they're ejalous of how she's pretty -- and she is! -- but all she can see is those extra kilograms on the scale

Society standards for females suck

Journeyman Geek

Meh. Luminous beings are we, not this crude flesh.

That or I might have accidentally eaten something radioactive.

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DavidPostill

13:50

@ThatBrazilianGuy I spent 6 weeks travelling up the west coast from Rio to Jericoacoara. If I go to Brazil again I will probably go straight to Jericoacoara ;)

Journeyman Geek

(also, ugh. I need to start running. I seem to have gained weight in spite of shitty army food. Less a looks thing than a health thing)

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek Quick, check if you're either a firefly or a deep sea fish. If you're a bald, chubby, yellow guy with a taste for donuts, start worrying.

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy last I checked ~~I was a bald chubby indian guy~~ I was a dog.

2

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek One of our new years resolutions was ~~1440 x 900~~ going back to the gym.

Keeping with the tradidion, so far we've been able to avoid it

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy problem is the moment I get up, my roomie wants to go walkies, and then I'm hungry...

DavidPostill

13:54

When I was in Jericoacoara there was no bank or cash machine ;) My kind of place ...

Burgi

how did you pay for your drink?

DavidPostill

Cash ;)

That Brazilian Guy

My problem is I don't exercise, so I can't sleep well, so I stay up late watching TV or on the internet, so I wake up really sleepy, make an effort just to get to work, the commute back sucks because of the traffic, then on the perfect time for the gym I am a wreck.

Repeat, rinse, repeat, etc etc

Burgi

obvious reallly...

DavidPostill

We took enough cash to last us for a few days ...

Journeyman Geek

13:55

@Burgi raw fish. You stick your foot in and pull out half a dozen pirana...

That Brazilian Guy

Jericoacoara. Daaaaaamn, I really wanna go there.

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy I was waking up half past 5 the last week

Burgi

why do meetings about meetings exist?

Journeyman Geek

@Burgi You should have a meeting about that....

DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy It was more enjoyable than anywhere else I stayed in the 6 weeks.

Burgi

13:57

:(

That Brazilian Guy

7 mins ago, by DavidPostill

@ThatBrazilianGuy I spent 6 weeks travelling up the west coast from Rio to Jericoacoara. If I go to Brazil again I will probably go straight to Jericoacoara ;)

Wait, you travelled half country from Rio to ~~Fortaleza~~ Ceará?

Not on foot, I hope

I knew I recognized the name of the place as "somewhere I haven't been yet but really wanted to go"

Last year we went to Ceará (my wife has some relatives there) and it was really nice

We went to some nearby beaches, buggy rides on the dunes, etc... But we didn't have time to go to Jericoacoara

I've ever been on a handful of cities in my country. I really, really want to travel more before I ~~win the lottery and~~ make any international travel. It's a really big country with a very diversified nature

DavidPostill

Not on foot ;) Bus and plane going north. Plane going back to to Rio.

That Brazilian Guy

I heard of someone who made the trip on bus and it really takes weeks. Don't know if I'd bear with it. I'd be too bus-sick and hurried to enjoy the view

But it would be nice to ride a car and stay a few days on the nice parts of the trip

Journeyman Geek

I don't think I've been on a proper vacation in ages

That Brazilian Guy

Some little time on a small village, some little time on a remote beach

Journeyman Geek

14:07

its almost always visiting family

DavidPostill

I can remember spending New Year's eve in Fortaleza (open air concert with Caetano Velosa?) but I can't remember where else we stopped on the way.

That Brazilian Guy

My wife is from São Paulo (big metropolis, grey concrete everywhere) and every time we would just travel there =/

Burgi

great f1 track there

Journeyman Geek

So I got spam claiming my norton AV expired.

!!yes

ChatBot John Cavil

DavidPostill

14:32

@JourneymanGeek You use Norton AV? <puke> ;)

DavidPostill

14:47

lol

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Q: How do I delete chrome OS off my computer

Can i delete my chrome OS off my Chromebook? If you do know this answer can you enplane it to me step by step. If you can it will help me out.

google-chrome google-chrome-os

If you delete the OS and do noting else, you will have a brick. there are cheaper ways to get a brick? What are you ultimately trying to accomplish? — Aganju 12 hours ago

Rahul Basu

haha

his avatar says 'FAIL' on top of an android symbol...

lh5.googleusercontent.com/-HpuvSNrm4pw/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAABs/…

bummi

Hi, does somebody know if this is legit, I don't think its's a good idea superuser.com/a/1028461/172747

Burgi

15:05

@DavidPostill that is brilliant

DavidPostill

@bummi Hmm. The drivers are available from Dell anyways: "Printer tested with Windows 10. Dell has tested this printer model to confirm that it works with devices running the Windows 10 operating system." dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/product/…

bummi

Mhhh, should SU be the source for downloads which can be verified only after download?

@DavidPostill Could you make an edit, if I do it will have to pass the whole reviwe

DavidPostill

No. The OP should refer to the official download source at Dell, which is dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/…

bummi

Thats what I mean, just replace the target

DavidPostill

I will wait for the OP to reply to the comment before doing anything.

bummi

15:22

I'd really love if you would make that edit, maybe he will not return the next time

DavidPostill

I've voted to delete his answer.

bummi

@DavidPostill If you don't do it I will do it take your comment in quotes, looks weird ...

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek What do you think about the answer? See comments on the answer.

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A: Dell 2335dn printer extremely slow on Windows 10

Well, I found a solution. I've just realised that I have a CD with some Win7 32bit drivers for that printer, however, they work perfectly on Win10 64bit. I uploaded them to MEGA (I think they are legit): https://mega.nz/#F!8oYwDKIK!8t9Skr-Ofc5lL9VbNLOnNw

@bummi Let's wait and see what JMG thinks ;)

bummi

Ok:)

That Brazilian Guy

15:54

So I accidentally created a soft link to ~. Then I tried to rm that link. With -rf. >_<

Thankfully it was my work machine and I cancelled after 2 seconds. But still...

bummi

Since we are waiting, can this one be rephrase to get the rec part out? superuser.com/q/1028479/172747

Aaron Hall

16:24

Can I get some help migrating this back to UX?

0

Q: HP Laserjet says "PC LOAD LETTER" - how come? how to prevent?

My HP Laserjet says "PC LOAD LETTER" and refuses to print. Is this an error message? What does it mean? This is an obvious user experience problem from the 1990s, and was brought back to mind as I watch Office Space, which mentions it in a scene. The user is intended to know, upon seeing t...

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Any mods around?

allquixotic

"Something is wrong. I'm going to stare at you until you fix it."

Anonymous

@ThatBrazilianGuy wow it's amazing that people keep doing that

Faheem Mitha

16:39

@allquixotic Your cat?

allquixotic

Yup

Burgi

Have you tried rebooting your cat?

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DavidPostill

@allquixotic There is an empty food bowl next to your owner. It is obvious what is wrong! ;)

Ben Richards

@AaronHall I VTC'd it and mentioned in a comment it should go back. Didn't realize you posted a link here, heh.

Seriously, I have no idea why it ended up on SU, except maybe someone somehow got confused and thought you were asking what it meant?

Bob

@DavidPostill re: "I don't think your question is on-topic on Super User either. We are not in the '90s any more." The age has nothing to do with whether it's on topic

People are welcome to ask about Win3.11 if it's otherwise on topic

Anonymous

16:51

@Bob mmm I don't know if SU should support legacy software/hardware

Anonymous

but well, I'm just a chat user that barely uses the main site

Bob

OTOH this is very much a ux design question, and design questions are largely off-topic here

Anonymous

yeah that too

Bob

@PatoSáinz We always have, and likely always will.

@PatoSáinz Keep in mind that this isn't about supporting anything.

SU doesn't support any particular piece of hardware or software. At all. It doesn't support Windows 95. It doesn't support Windows 10. It doesn't support Ubuntu 15.10.

It allows questions that fit the topic. As long as it's within scope, and someone has an answer, it's all good. Even if no-one has an answer, that doesn't necessarily mean the question is bad.

And we've actually had instances where old software (Windows 3.x specifically) turns up (e.g. in old industrial control systems) where someone can provide decent answers.

DavidPostill

@Bob maybe. But the core of his question is off-topic regardless.
"How did HP come to actually ship printers with this UX problem?" - opinion based. "How do we prevent this sort of UX problem from shipping with products in the future?" opinion based.

Bob

16:59

The alternative would be to go purging all questions older than <arbitrary> years, and that's far worse IMO.

Burgi

home time!

Bob

@DavidPostill The matter at hand is that I think you've given an incorrect reason for closing.

Burgi

thanks for the company today guys

Bob

Doesn't matter if there's also other good reasons - giving someone the wrong idea is bad.

DavidPostill

It was a combination of what he asked as well as the age of the product that made it a really bad question.

Bob

17:01

As I said above - I don't think this question is a good fit, since it's a design question. It's on the dev side, not the user side.

But that's a completely different reason than the age of the hardware.

@DavidPostill The age of the product isn't even a factor.

The others are enough to stand on their own.

Ben Richards

I agree. (with Bob)

DavidPostill

@Bob I can't remember what my VTC was but there isn't an age of the product reason. I probably voted "opinion based"

Bob

(Speaking of which - I'd also say those two subquestions aren't really opinion-based. They can and do have concrete answers - especially the "how do we prevent", which probably has a dozen duplicates over at ux.se, with industry-standard methods for evaluating ux. But they're still off-topic for su.)

Anonymous

[CVE-2016-0728](http://perception-point.io/2016/01/14/analysis-and-exploitation-of-a-linux-kernel-vulnerability-cve-2016-0728/): Use-after-free vulnerability in keyring facility, possibly leading to
local privilege escalation: affects linux kernels 3.8 and above

Ben Richards

I'm sticking with my comment there: " I think you're missing the point. It's not about whether or not modern printers have better error messages. It's about informing the user of actions they need to take and how to make them unambiguous or cryptic. I think this case was a victim of limited string storage space and display capabilities, though."

Which makes it a good UX question (in my opinion), and a bad SU question.

Anonymous

17:03

FUCK YOU MARKDOWN

Bob

Since we got rid of the NARQ reason, I've started seeing opinion-based being used as a blanket close reason for whatever can be shoehorned in there... that's not great.

DavidPostill

The age of the product is relevant though, as I said in a later comment ""How did HP come to actually ship printers with this UX issue?" is opinion based - unless there happens to be someone here who worked for HP all those years ago and knows the answer"

Ben Richards

It's not a bad SU question for being about an old piece of equipment. It's because its scope isn't "how do I use this" or "what does this mean"? It's "how do we not do things like this in the future" which has nothing to do with what SU is all about.

Anonymous

ok what the fuck

Ben Richards

@DavidPostill I still disagree. It's opinion not because of age but because no one here (yet) has chimed in who worked on developing this product.

That could go for any product, new or old.

Anonymous

17:06

I give up

Bob

@BenRichards Exactly. That puts it in the dev/design category - it's only relevant to the people designing the ux.

Ben Richards

@PatoSáinz That's what pastebin is for!

Bob

That's off-topic here. And that's the correct reason for closing, IMO.

Ben Richards

Yep

Anonymous

@BenRichards well every site has their own unique flavour of markdown

Anonymous

17:07

and even while reading the stackexchange docs on their own markdown, chat doesn't accept all of it

Ben Richards

@PatoSáinz No, I mean pastebin is for sharing plaintext stuff :)

Especially big chunks of plaintext

But plaintext nonetheless

Anonymous

@BenRichards ah yeah but I'm not sharing chunks of plain text, just a link

Ben Richards

Ah

Anonymous

fuck it you get the gist: update your kernels

Bob

As others have said - this is primarily a design/dev question better suited for people designing the UX. It's not suitable for a site targeting the users of said products, who would only be able to provide anecdotal responses. — Bob 35 secs ago

DavidPostill

17:10

I give up. I'm entitled to my opinion. I don't have to explain my vote (votes are anonymous). In my humble opinion I think it is off-topic because any answer (if it was on topic) would be opinion-based. I explained why I think it's off-topic. If you don't like it that's fine. You are all free to vote to reopen.

Ben Richards

We aren't voting to re-open. Just arguing that your reasoning for it being off topic differs from ours :P

It should go back to UX.SE

DavidPostill

I already said I give up.

Bob

The whys and hows do tend to attract opinion-related answers, yes. Though they also often get well-sourced answers with the original designers chiming in. Still, that ends up being a judgement call - IMO the opinion-based close reason is overused for many questions that aren't egregiously so, but obviously there are other views on it.

Anonymous

There it is

Bob

Anyway, the thing I took issue with is the comment talking about the age of the hardware. Everything else is meh.

Anonymous

17:13

CVE-2016-0728: Use-after-free vulnerability in keyring facility, possibly leading to local privilege escalation (affects linux kernels >=3.8)

Anonymous

finally

DavidPostill

Apologies to everyone. I'm suffering from "bad question overload" ;)

Bob

17:30

@DavidPostill nw, all this isn't so much a discussion of right/wrong as it is opinion anyway

On a completely unrelated note: damn, I wish Excel supported something like LINQ.

Being able to, say, ALL(A1:A10, >3) would be amazing.

...though that simple case could be done with a COUNTIF

Also wish it didn't do that funny localisation thing with commas and semicolons...

Eh, off to sleep. 'night all

bwDraco

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Q: Any app that internally opens a webpage or otherwise uses System WebView crashes under CM13

CyanogenMod 13 nightlies on Nexus 9 with Gapps installed. I've been dealing with a persistent issue where any app that uses Android System WebView will crash. This means that any app that opens a webpage internally or otherwise tries to render HTML-based content internally (e.g. Email) will cras...

cyanogenmod crashes 6.0-marshmallow nexus-9 webview

Any ideas?

Anonymous

17:50

@bwDraco you are using a nightly

Anonymous

it'll get fixed eventually

Anonymous

it's best if you submit a bug report

Aaron Hall

@Bob It's entirely off-topic for SU, and entirely on-topic for UX and they've finally brought it back. Sorry for the disturbance! :)

qasdfdsaq

18:12

Nevah!

Nothing's off topic

The world is your ~~oyster~~ topic

@ThatBrazilianGuy OOOoooohhhh!! Noooowwww I get it. Homer Simpson!

Nate Kerkhofs

18:54

Pff, my desktop icons keep getting these random symbols related to cloud storage services next to them, and I have no idea what service they're from

Either a red circle with an X in them, a white X, a green circle with a checkmark in them or the Dropbox symbol that you get on a shared folder, the 2 small dudes

Dave

19:52

@bwDraco: Try here.. jira.cyanogenmod.org/secure/Dashboard.jspa

qasdfdsaq

20:07

Hennes

Well, we have bountiful MSDOS questions....

most which shoukd be tagged ocmmand line though

That Brazilian Guy

455 sq. km (175 sq mi) of traffic.

Michael Frank

Heh... just received an attachment deemed confidential by company policy. In the Information Classification Policy attached to the document it states this:

"Electronic Information shall be destroyed by complete physical destruction or by a magnetic wiping process approved by GIS"

Okay... But I received this by email, onto my VDI.

That Brazilian Guy

So, the only way to comply is hammers + EMP. To every mail relay the message ever touched.

Michael Frank

@ThatBrazilianGuy Aaaand the entire VM farm.

That Brazilian Guy

20:22

Obviously.

I wanna go home, but:

Michael Frank

@ThatBrazilianGuy Wow... That's a lot of traffic.

That Brazilian Guy

6pm before a holiday.

I left work, saw the car parade, and made a 180-degree turn back to work

Michael Frank

@ThatBrazilianGuy Ahhh... even we get that here... and our city only has like 1.something million people.

That Brazilian Guy

6.5 here

Last time it happened I had at least air con and internet. Today it's raining and we were offline for almost 2hs

qasdfdsaq

@ThatBrazilianGuy This is why rich people have helicopters

That Brazilian Guy

20:34

I don't wanna be rich, not-poor is fine. And I don't want helicopters. Teleporters would be really cool, but I wouldn't complain if remote work wasn't seen with such disdain in our culture.

Seriously, I'd receive 25% less if I could not have to face traffic.

Michael Frank

@ThatBrazilianGuy How far do you need to travel to/from work?

Anonymous

@ThatBrazilianGuy oh fuck

Anonymous

well Santiago has congestion but not that grave

That Brazilian Guy

@MichaelFrank 10km. It take me from 60 to 90min to arrive.

Michael Frank

@ThatBrazilianGuy That really sucks. But I guess that's what you get when you build your city on a mountain, eh?

That Brazilian Guy

20:39

They keep closing the bus stops so I have to walk 20+ min to the bus stops.

> But I guess that's what you get ~~when you build your city on a mountain~~ when only wealthy car owners living near the beach are "people".

Anonymous

@ThatBrazilianGuy well you should have lived in sao paulo

Anonymous

"the city of the future"

That Brazilian Guy

> But I guess that's what you get ~~when you build your city on a mountain~~ when the traffic planners are corrupt, incompetent and friends with the politicians.

Anonymous

lol

That Brazilian Guy

!!no

ChatBot John Cavil

20:42

Anonymous

@ThatBrazilianGuy and I thought our metro was congested lol

That Brazilian Guy

São Paulo is hell.

Actually, people in São Paulo envy how hell is less crowded.

Three levels of crowded >_<

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