Root Access

qasdfdsaq

00:00

> Other animals should be treated...
With respect because they are part of God's creation.
However we see fit. They don't have souls and were created for us to use.
With respect because they can suffer too.
** Kindly because they are sweet and fluffy and nicer than people**

Journeyman Geek

heh

ANyone who dosen't think animals have souls, has no soul

qasdfdsaq

(From humanism.org.uk/humanism/how-humanist-are-you)

I picked "Kindly because they are sweet and fluffy and nicer than people", obviously

@JourneymanGeek But I have to brag about how I attracted the attention of the best looking CM on SE! *

* For being gross and sexist, but it sounds way cooler without that part.

Journeyman Geek

00:31

Need a spade? Cause you're digging yourself deeper in a hole.

qasdfdsaq

01:11

Eh, what's the saying, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em, right?

Shen Ruki

that only goes so far tho

qasdfdsaq

OK who starred my imgur

I wish you could see who starred what

Then I could see who's really stalking all my chmod messages

Journeyman Geek

01:39

Lol

Journeyman Geek

01:58

arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/01/…

Thats gonna be popular

Bob

02:16

@RahulBasu I already use YUMI for *nix installers, but it doesn't work with UEFI and it's occasionally buggy with Windows.

...Did something start smouldering overnight?

Journeyman Geek

02:43

@Bob IRL or on ra?

Anonymous

02:55

@qasdfdsaq so, it turns out that downgrading the kernel is also not an option

Anonymous

no distro currently supports 2.4

Anonymous

and even if they did, kernel.org projects its EOL for september of this year

Anonymous

All I can do is keep trying to port the patch and lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2016-01/…

Bob

@JourneymanGeek RA

Journeyman Geek

@Bob ahh qasdfdsaq said something horrible and sexist, it was flagged, CM talked to him

ahh

we're going to the vet at 5.

Looks like the old mutt lost another tooth

so probably good for this afternoon

HackToHell

09:10

bloody hell upgrading ubuntu broke postgres

fffffff that breaks the entire stack

bleh

Journeyman Geek

Lol

Production?

HackToHell

it runs a betaish product

And it's shown to people

and the ui is down :/

Isn't actually in production I suppose

phew got it up running fast

I should probably set up to check if everything is running or not

Journeyman Geek

09:31

Lol. And test first XD

HackToHell

yeah, I have to setup something like new relic

What do you use @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

10:11

@HackToHell personal stuff? Everything is on a vm and snapshotted.

Journeyman Geek

10:58

I don't have monitoring set up

supervisord keeps stuff runs

qasdfdsaq

12:25

@PatoSáinz 2.4? Did you not say 3.4?

@JourneymanGeek Oh come on, it wasn't that bad

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek ah

I never got around to getting supervisord to work

qasdfdsaq

It was a veiled compliment about the independence and critical decision making of women in modern society!

@Bob What's RA?

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, especially since I tried to upgrade to Windows 10 on Skylake and it broke.

That's gotta be the worst news I've woken up to all year. Although I can sorta understand some of it. Like Microsoft not backporting the kernel changes required for Skylake power management into Windows 8.1

But then again, it had to be implemented post-release even for W10 so why they can't do it for W8.1 I don't get

@JourneymanGeek Did you know, dogs are the only animals proven to be able to understand human emotions and perceive cross-species emotional traits other than humans themselves? Woof!

@HackToHell I got supervisord to work recently, for work.

It's not that hard. Just like any old linux config file. But weirder.

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq supervisord dosen't really monitor tho

Its simple but its more process management than monitoring

qasdfdsaq

Sure, but it'll restart a process if it drops

That's sorta monitoring.

Journeyman Geek

yup

qasdfdsaq

12:34

(For real functionality monitoring and response time and stuff, we have Nagios)

Journeyman Geek

but if something goes truely to hell...

qasdfdsaq

And Ganglia

@JourneymanGeek Turn it off and back on again!

Journeyman Geek

last workplaced used ... I think sensu

qasdfdsaq

Everywhere I've worked seems to use Nagios and/or Ganglia.

And RRDTool with self-written status pages if they're l33t

Journeyman Geek

thing for me is tho, I use everything I run all the time

so if it drops I will sniff it out

qasdfdsaq

12:35

You're a dog. You sniff everything out by default.

Journeyman Geek

true

qasdfdsaq

di.fm/founder-letter

> In the final weeks of 2015, the Copyright Royalty Board (CRB) in the United States imposed new royalty rates for the years spanning 2016-2020. In the process, this move also eliminated the special royalty rates which existed for small webcasters such as Digitally Imported.

Effective January, 2016, our royalty costs will therefore increase dramatically, as they will for all the other independent webcasters in the US. I am sad to say that many will likely not stay in business as advertising revenue will not be enough to pay for their costs.

Blargh. Thanks CRB in the US for screwing with the lives of people everywhere outside the US

Bob

12:52

@qasdfdsaq Red Alert, Root Access...

@qasdfdsaq supervisord is pretty easy

But I ended up shifting to just using systemd directly for the few things I was using it on.

> Sold Out Currently!

:(

qasdfdsaq

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mommy+issues

Great, I visit di.fm once in like, five years, and now Google's blasting EDM sites to the top of all my search results

@Bob What's sold out?

Also, these bluetooth speakers I bought in Singapore are turning out to be in the "uncanny valley" of audio :-/

Bob

@qasdfdsaq The thing I wanted? :P

(just a shirt)

As is typical, it's available in all colours and sizes but the one I want.

@qasdfdsaq So good it's bad?

i.imgur.com/miqEbvR.gifv

qasdfdsaq

13:07

@Bob Lolwut!

MyDaftQuestions

Has any one set up SPF records before?

Bob

@qasdfdsaq That's how foxes catch mice :P

@MyDaftQuestions Ya. It's not hard...

qasdfdsaq

Snowdiving foxes

MyDaftQuestions

When we send mail, we configure the SMTP with mail.domain.com ... Does the SPF record need to be assigned in domain.com (no subdomain) or the mail.domain.com ?

qasdfdsaq

Oh, sender policy framework

I was thinking SPF as in OSPF

MyDaftQuestions

13:08

:)

Bob

@MyDaftQuestions They go on the domain that you want to put in your "From" field.

MyDaftQuestions

perfect. Thanks @Bob. I guessed it would. Since i'm sending to [email protected] then I'll add it with no subdomain :D

Bob

SPF records say "these servers are allowed to send mail representing this domain"

MyDaftQuestions

Thanks Bob, for many times you've helped

qasdfdsaq

d dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

Three Ana's in a day. That's a new one...

Bob

13:18

@MyDaftQuestions Oh, also a good idea to stick an SPF record on other subdomains you want to have protected. e.g. www.

Even if it's just -all

qasdfdsaq

Gah, come on DPD. I need to move my PC back.

OK I need to leave now

Bob

o.O

Journeyman Geek

@Bob for running ttrss update scripts it works gloriously

DPD?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek meh, hate it or hate it systemd is already there

Journeyman Geek

@Bob in theory I could have done it on upstart

(since I run ttrss on a older version of ubuntu)

hm

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Q: What is the latest DirectX version officially compatible with Windows 98 SE?

I want to install Windows 98 SE for gaming old games. For this I need to know what is the latest DirectX version officially compatible with Windows 98 SE?

possible HNQ? ;p

DavidPostill

13:43

@JourneymanGeek Damn, you already answered it ;)

With the correct answer.

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill why, of course.

and of course, someone else linked the site I was looking at

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek That doesn't stop you linking to the same site to make your answer more complete ;)

Journeyman Geek

He had it first. meh.

DavidPostill

You could include screen captures of the tables. I would if it was my answer ...

@JourneymanGeek It's a crap question anyway. Googling "What is the latest DirectX version officially compatible with Windows 98 SE?" (the title of his question) gives that website as the 2nd link. The 1st link, of course, is now his question.

Journeyman Geek

quite

Bob

14:21

@allquixotic youtube.com/watch?v=BgAlQuqzl8o

(though you've probably seen it)

qasdfdsaq

15:51

I ate an onion ring.

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq no. 2.4, I kid you not

qasdfdsaq

I ate two onion rings.

I ate three onion rings

Bob

Or are they proper onion rings? :P

Anonymous

like, fucking kernel 2.4

Anonymous

what the fuck

Anonymous

15:59

I need to run CentOS 3 to get that kernel

Anonymous

no way I'm doing a frankendistro and tearing apart the beauty that Fedora/anything is to get that kernel running

Anonymous

probably not even the xen modules will compile on that version

Bob

Wait, why are you looking for 2.4?

Anonymous

@Bob I need to run a specific patched version of drbd

Bob

o.O

Anonymous

16:05

thing is, that patch is only available for an old version that only supports 2 through 2.4

Anonymous

but no way I'm gonna run that shit

Anonymous

@Bob lists.xenproject.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2016-01/…

Bob

@PatoSáinz ...that says 3?

> Support for these versions have been dropped for almost 3 years, and they are only compatible with Linux kernels 3.0-3.4

Anonymous

@Bob damn then I have to errata that mail

Bob

Oh, that was from you? lol

Anonymous

16:13

yes

Anonymous

ah no wait I am dumb

Anonymous

FUCK

Anonymous

it is 3.4

Bob

...

-_-

4 hours ago, by qasdfdsaq

@PatoSáinz 2.4? Did you not say 3.4?

21 mins ago, by Pato Sáinz

@qasdfdsaq no. 2.4, I kid you not

lol. I don't have any context above that, though

23 hours ago, by Pato Sáinz

@qasdfdsaq I fucking give up on porting the patch, maybe as a longer-term project but for now I'm just going to downgrade to kernel 3.4

This is so confusing.

Anonymous

still

Anonymous

16:15

ok definitive:

Anonymous

it's 3 through 3.4

Bob

13 hours ago, by Pato Sáinz

no distro currently supports 2.4

Anonymous

BUT its EOL is still Sept 2016

Anonymous

and it's still a really fucking old version

Bob

For some reason my brain still thinks that 3.x is all new and only 2.6.x is old.

Anonymous

16:16

and even in the DC we run, where most hosts don't run bleeding-edge 4 but rather 3, it's not 3DOTFUCKING4

Bob

The new versioning scheme is really messing with my head.

allquixotic

This is Your Fight Song (Rachel Platten Scottish Cover)

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Bob

@allquixotic Yea, saw that. ~~Pretty good~~ Looks great.

@allquixotic Wait, is that a response to my earlier link? Or just an amazing coincidence? :P

Anonymous

"Levels of Tetris" (Avicii / 'Tetris' Theme Song Ragtime Mashup)

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Anonymous

who doesn't love a good ol' ragtime

StackExchange

16:20

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Q: Add softwarerecs to the migration targets

This feature same request Add softwarerecs to vote to migrate option was declined in Feb. 2014, since the circumstances meanwhile changed I don't think this is a duplicate. Software Recommendation graduaded and has 3 elected moderators now it should have become a valid migration target Y...

feature-request

Anonymous

as an aspiring piano player, I still can't fucking understand how people are able to lift up the left hand and make it land accurately on the key you need to play, all while playing a whole chord

allquixotic

@Bob it was "related" to the first one you posted :P

Bob

@allquixotic Ah. I was actually looking up piano guys - I think that one was their channel trailer. Stumbled on the SW one from there :P

Heh, of course they've done one of these too:

Let It Go (Disney's "Frozen") Vivaldi's Winter - ThePianoGuys

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Anonymous

yeah those pianoguys are awesome

Anonymous

"Super Mario World" for Piano and Tap Dance

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Bob

16:30

@PatoSáinz ...I can barely tap my foot in time -_-

And then there's people like that.

Anonymous

hahaha

Anonymous

in an @qasdfdsaq -esque note: I think there's correlation between being in IT and not having amazing motor skills

Bob

lol

All our ~~fine~~ motor skills went into typing.

Anonymous

hahaahaha

Bob

Anonymous

16:42

@Bob do you like EDM? (not as in stupid 4/4 shit you dance by the beat you hear in radio but rather, indie?)

tereško

is it just me, or kickass torrents have been suffering from some load-time probems lately ?

Bob

@PatoSáinz Uhm... I don't have a particular genre I listen to :P

Though there are some I avoid.

Anonymous

@Bob I avoid country (especially pop country)

Bob

I generally prefer some vocals, though.

Anonymous

and rap, and reggae, and whatever spawns from reggae

Bob

16:46

Or the more classical instrumentals.

Anonymous

@Bob I see

Bob

As for EDM... shrug

Some Nightcore... spend a while browsing the "Techno Dream Trance" stuff on YT a while back.

Nothing particularly heavy.

Otherwise I tend to go by artist, or just particular songs I might hear. Probably have a bunch in my SoundHound history :P

Anonymous

@Bob do you use soundcloud?

Anonymous

also, this guy

Anonymous

Tristam & Braken - Far Away (Jonah Wei-Haas Piano Cover)

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Bob

16:49

@PatoSáinz Not really, no.

Anonymous

takes EDM (indie) and makes piano arrangements for it

Bob

@PatoSáinz Strangely, that's probably something I'd like :P

I like the rhythm of a lot of edm, but not so much the synth sounds...

@PatoSáinz Also, SoundHound has nothing to do with SoundCloud :P

Anonymous

@Bob yea, that's why I asked

Anonymous

@Bob wow for me it's mostly backwards

Anonymous

I mean, DnB has cool rhythm

Anonymous

16:53

but the best of EDM are the synths

Anonymous

and the theory behind synths, is awesome

Anonymous

:26883288 you still use last.fm? oh wow

Bob

@PatoSáinz shrug that just catches what I listen to via spotify

which sadly doesn't have a good chunk of what I want

Boris_yo

Great. That's what this world is missing...

Anonymous

@Boris_yo the illuminati meme has gone too far

Anonymous

17:00

@Bob have you checked out that guy's other arrangements

Anonymous

some are with a vocalist

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Up there is keyring clip made in China that failed.

I should have bought US made when you assured me Chinese one will do the job. US made will always supersede.

Anonymous

17:22

it does bother me a bit that my "bug" at the mailing list has been largely unnoticed yet

Anonymous

but oh well

allquixotic

17:40

@Bob the co-op tavern brawl in Hearthstone is back for the next ~40 hours, we should play sometime

bwDraco

17:57

pcworld.com/article/3023373/hardware/…

Not again. BAPCo and Intel accused of cheating once again by AMD.

Truth or Myth?: Is SYSmark a Reliable Benchmark?

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Truth is, SYSmark has always been biased towards Intel.

May 18 '15 at 15:40, by DragonLord

http://www.vanshardware.com/reviews/2002/08/020822_AthlonXP2600/020822_AthlonXP2‌600.htm

Anonymous

@bwDraco and wow that's the official AMD yt channel

bwDraco

It's well known that SYSmark is not representative of real-world workloads.

PCMark is a much better indicator of real-world performance, for what it's worth.

SYSmark's workloads are contrived and unrealistic, designed to favor Intel rather than represent performance in realistic use cases.

@PatoSáinz Comparing it to VW's fudged emissions testing is very, very harsh indeed.

Anonymous

well I think that a better benchmark would be Prime95

Anonymous

that's uncheatable

Anonymous

if they knew how to optimise primes we wouldn't have RSA

Anonymous

18:08

and if they try to optimise it by having special instruction sets, like they already do, it'd benefit all applications (since they'd be for arithmetic/algebra)

Ramhound

Why is karma like this. You order a bunch of 7 feet CAT 7 cables to network all your devices with but forget the 15 foot cable going from the wall to the router.

bwDraco

18:39

#AMD slams #SYSmark as biased, likening it to Volkswagen's fudged emissions testing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMW0w30HyeU

Tweeted by bwDraco on January 16, 2016 at 6:38 PM

Both PCMark and AMD's own trace testing indicate that the Intel part is only marginally faster than the comparable AMD part, so why does SYSmark give the Intel system a 50% higher score than the AMD system?

SYSmark is biased. That is a well-established fact.

Ramhound

Indeed

It is

Tell us something we didn't know AMD

bwDraco

Intel has some explaining to do here.

Ramhound

Intel beats AMD in other benchmarks often also so, not really

bwDraco

...but a 50% delta does not make sense here.

Ramhound

You under estimate how far behind AMD performance really is

They really took a gamble on a their last design on what the future would be.

bwDraco

18:49

AMD certainly is far behind, but Intel has designed things to look worse than they really are.

Ramhound

They achieved that goal the problem is everything else basically suffered and stuff didn't move as fast.

Perhaps

bwDraco

On my old AMD-based laptop, the CPU was never a serious bottleneck in day-to-day use.

A total disregard for the GPU side of things, among other factors, makes the Intel system look better than it really is.

Ramhound

Intel's iGPU actually are pretty close to its competition.

bwDraco

@Ramhound Not true unless the Intel parts are equipped with Iris or Iris Pro.

Iris graphics are not typically found on mainstream systems.

Ramhound

I disagree, for what it is, 4000+ is pretty good

If you are not getting a dGPU,, it does everything you need, and more

Intel really did improve their GPU, Its not like the old stuff, that stuff I agree was crap

bwDraco

18:53

As usual, AMD has a better GPU implementation. In mainstream use cases, the AMD system would not perform dramatically worse than the Intel system.

allquixotic

@Ramhound only Iris Pro, which is in sparingly few part numbers, is actually worth its salt. The rest barely hold a candle to most Radeon APUs.

bwDraco

The Iris Pro parts are very expensive and hard to find in any case.

allquixotic

It's like Intel is terrified of actually shipping a good GPU

or they're being paid by Nvidia not to

Ramhound

If they were being paid why even have a GPU solution?

Just let Nvidia do it

less work

Its not like Nvidia would leak any info about Intel to AMD

allquixotic

@Ramhound Nvidia doesn't really have an IGP-class graphics processor that's any good

they have Tegra, which is tiny and low-power, then they have full-scale GeForce

Ramhound

18:57

Which is where Intel would come in handy, just saying

bwDraco

@allquixotic What about Tegra X1? You can't say 256 CUDA cores (2 SMMs) are not going to be competitive with Intel and (to some degree) AMD GPUs...

Ramhound

Intel could design the heck out of one

bwDraco

Iris Pro did find its way to a socketed desktop solution (e.g. i7-5775C) but Intel took a half-hearted approach to it. It was a scaled-up mobile part (65W Broadwell-H) and not a true desktop part (type S or K).

Type H is high-performance mobile/AIO desktop.

My laptop has an Intel Core i7-4800MQ. When we bought it, it was our first Intel machine in over a decade.

allquixotic

@bwDraco Qualitatively it's about 1.5-2x the A8X, which puts it a little bit slower than the A9X. The i7-6500U is significantly faster than the A9X.

So, like I said, Nvidia does not make good IGP-scale graphics processors.

Iris Pro absolutely destroys both Tegra X1 and the A9X. But you can destroy those even with the 6700-level i7 part, nevermind Iris Pro.

bwDraco

Alright, going to take a walk around town shortly. Will be back in a few hours.

Ramhound

19:28

I am very suspicious of Metabolix he first submits three identical answers, literally three identical answers to three different questions, all advertising his program.

qasdfdsaq

Good evening all you lovely people.

Oh wait I haven't had a burger yet. I can't be nice till I've had a burger.

I can haz cheeseburger?

Ramhound

Since then in a course of a few hours. Has submitted two answers, both accepted by brand new users, but neither question nor answer got votes currently. These users are like created today. Just seems suspicious.

Anonymous

@Ramhound cat7?

Anonymous

pretty fucking overkill

Anonymous

people rollout cat6 for futureproofing

Anonymous

19:38

if you want today's standards, cat5e

Ramhound

It was the same price as CAT 6.

I paid something like $2 for the cable

bwDraco

If your main goal here is to promote your own product, than it's probably considered spam. The occasional product promotion is okay as long as you disclose your affiliation, but posting several answers promoting your products is frowned upon and is grounds for their removal. Please keep this in mind when you post here. — bwDraco 5 secs ago

@Ramhound You don't need Cat 7 unless you're trying to do 40 GbE or long cable runs with 10 GbE.

Ramhound

I understand

It was the same price.

bwDraco

If your main goal here is to promote your own product, than it's probably considered spam. The occasional product promotion is okay as long as you disclose your affiliation, but posting several answers promoting your products is frowned upon and is grounds for their removal. Please keep this in mind when you post here. — bwDraco 3 mins ago

qasdfdsaq

@PatoSáinz: Cat6 isn't future proof at all.

Ramhound

19:45

care to expand on that thought?

qasdfdsaq

@PatoSáinz Say what? I have perfectly fine motor skills

Ramhound

does flagging a question require reputation?

@Ramhound Flagging in general requires some reputation, and a closing vote requires even more reputation. (Now I have been able to flag two other questions with "needs moderator attention".) — Metabolix 52 secs ago

that does not seem right

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Proper onion rings

Michael Frank

@Ramhound only 15 rep.

Ramhound

Ok

ugh

I need to setup my powerlan I think

1000 Kb/sec is so slow

but I can't because.... don't have a long enough cable, wonderful

The real reason I went with CAT 7, is because, I didn't know what CAT I had now. I recently moved and had to go to a less them optimal home networking setup. Trying to improve the performance using the most basic (best) items possible first to see if it will help

Alright, wow

I am paying almost more in fees with Vonage then the service itself time to cut my unlimited plan :$

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Q: Shut down during Win10 upgrade by mistake

I accidentaly shutted down the Lenovo Yoga tablet 2 8" Windows 8.1 during Win10 update. The system won't boot and I don't know what to do. Recovery partition is also corrupted. What I've tried so far: 1) Install clean Win10 x86 Home copy using Microsoft Media tool - Windows will be installed, b...

lenovo

Anonymous

20:20

@qasdfdsaq flagged

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq why not?

Anonymous

@Ramhound well cat5e would have been enough, and cheaper

Ramhound

There wasn't a huge delta between the price delta.

<sigh> I hate this VM

The damn OS upgrade broke it.

qasdfdsaq

20:36

@PatoSáinz Because it doesn't support anything Cat5 doesn't already support?

Anonymous

@qasdfdsaq gigabit didn't it?

Ramhound

Considering all my devices are gigabit...

qasdfdsaq

21:11

@PatoSáinz No.

qasdfdsaq

22:15

@Bob Yeah, sorta

Michael Frank

23:31

ludicrousdisplays.com

If I had one of those, I'd probably play more Eve-Online.

qasdfdsaq

23:47

@MichaelFrank Heh. Nice.

Though nothing a good MMO gaming keyboard couldn't be programmed to do

Michael Frank

@qasdfdsaq Oh yea, it's definitely the presentation factor that makes it cool.

Bob

@allquixotic Heh, I've never played, but you turn out to be surprisingly good at getting me to try new games :P

bwDraco

@qasdfdsaq Even a run-of-the-mill gaming keyboard (like my $70 ROCCAT Isku) has a bunch of macro keys, on-board macro programming, and an Easy-Shift[+] key for even more macros.

Michael Frank

@qasdfdsaq ergodex.com/mainpage.htm - That would also be pretty cool.

bwDraco

This keyboard isn't even mechanical or MMO-rated. It's just a general-purpose gaming keyboard, nothing really fancy (just a simple blue backlight and some extra keys).

Journeyman Geek

23:53

@MichaelFrank I remember someone diyed something like your ludicrousdisplay.

bwDraco

...and I already have a "ghetto" triple-monitor setup here (2x 1920x1080 + 1280x1024).

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek It could've been the same guy. That was originally a DIY job, then I guess he managed to get it mass produced.

ChatBot John Cavil

I have just been restarted! This happens daily automatically, or when my owner restarts me. Ready for commands.

Journeyman Geek

I have a Razer orbweaver. Not got it set up at the moment.

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