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Journeyman Geek

09:00

So, I got permission to move dad off windows XP (yay!)

I do have to work out what to move his email to (he's currently on outlook, but finding office 2007 media would be a pain)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek 2013/2016?

365?

Thunderbird?

Outlook online?

Journeyman Geek

er, 2003

Bob

PuTTY + Telnet?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob thinking tbird + libreoffice

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I meant move him on to one of those.

Journeyman Geek

09:03

I'd need to plan moving the email out too tho

365... I don't have much of a budget here. I got a spare windows 7 key... and a spare SSD...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Ask a question on SU? :P (make it look as spam-baity as possible?)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob gee...

I was thinking SR actually.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I meant for the moving part.

Journeyman Geek

This is more thinking out loud.

If thunderbird will import settings off outlook 03, I can then export that with mozbackup

hm

Actually....

I'd prefer windows live mail but that gets even messier

Bob

You could always port the O2003 install across

Journeyman Geek

09:12

Using what?

There's no physical media (tho there's a key somewhere)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Grab the media from somewhere, extract the key, and bingo?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob last time I tried that, it only worked with a very specific version and was a total pain in the ass.

Bob

Hm.

Upgrade install of 7?

Journeyman Geek

Would rather do it afresh

Part of my aim here is to have a fresh, light install of stuff

Bob

shrug pay for a newer copy?

Journeyman Geek

09:21

;p

maaaaybe

Eventually

Journeyman Geek

09:45

I have no idea what I'm doing yet ;p

Bob

I'm sad

I have a shiny new SSD in my hands

but no adapters for it

so tempted to temporarily use my ODD cables -_-

Hm. 7mm.

O_O

OCZ is owned by Toshiba?

> Store the SSD in the included anti-static bag until it is ready for installation

...it came in a plastic tray

it's so... light

Journeyman Geek

10:13

lol

they boguht it over some time back

Bob

It seriously feels no heavier than a couple plastic cards :S

Journeyman Geek

lol

sounds like my cheap chinese one

hmm tiny bit harsh I suppose meta.superuser.com/a/11053/10165

HackToHell

Cool, SSD is on my next to buy list

As soon as I sell off my RAM

Journeyman Geek

I don't think I'll own a PC with a spinning rust boot drive ever again.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek It weighs 48g

A single NiMH AA weighs 32g -_-

Hennes

10:28

Morning

Lol. 2500 contacts.

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Q: I have accidentaly synced my gmail contacts to my samsung galaxy

I accidentaly synced all of my gmail contacts to my samsung phone, hence android. I have now 2500 contacts. How to remove those from my phone all at once ? Need help.

Must have a very large family

Anyone recently looked at buying new hardware?

I want a second PC to toy with. HW PC, not a VM

Which means tower, PSU, motherboard, CPU, something for graphics (could be on die). I'll probably plug in a spare SAS2 RAID card for speed, so SATA 3 is not needed

Journeyman Geek

10:46

@Hennes Onboard graphics is actually pretty usable for most things.

Hennes

I have two R300 poweredge servers as toys.
But regular PC with space for half a dozen drives would be nice

No gaming at all.

Journeyman Geek

And nearly everything modern has sata 3

Hennes

Or maybe I just move my GTX to it and use the X58/i7 920 as play board

Journeyman Geek

But say a core i5 or core i7 would be plenty of power for that

and fit in half a dozen drives

Hennes

Not sure if I should do DDR4 tough. Might be nice for the future

Journeyman Geek

10:48

DDR4 isn't a bad idea, especially if you go desktop.

Bit of future proofing so to speak

Hennes

Oh, I always go desktop.

But I thought the same with my current DDR3 (1.65v) RAM

I even got lower power (1.5v) versions

But these days even that might be to high

I guess my first step will be to research chipsets and CPU's.
Let see which are available with sufficient PCI-e lanes

A few yeara ago that was not much. 16 lanes? Yes. 16 for the RAID card and PCI-e x1 for graphics. Also a few.

Journeyman Geek

What do you need to hang off it?

Hennes

I'll move my old spinning rust (4x 1TB to it as backup place and work space)

And move the 2x2TB to the new setup (less noice, less power)

Or I could get a single new drive and keep the old two as backups.

Having lots of spindles to play with is fun

and most of the data on it is replaceable.

Hmm, spinning rust is not afforable with 6 TB

4TB Eur 115....

Hennes

11:15

Now to find out what the catch is with that drive :)

Bob

11:58

@Hennes Google contacts sucks

I had a lagging contacts app because it imported some 14000 contacts.

Of those, only some 70 were unique.

Every single email I received, it'd add the sender as a contact...

Hennes

Ah.

I simply do not receive email on my phone

Bob

@Hennes nono, any email sent to gmail

at all

not necessarily on the phone

Hennes

Ah.

Not a probkem either. No gmail account

Hennes

13:10

Gah, I give up on seeing websites at work.
At least until I have installed a few add blockers

Journeyman Geek

"a few" ? 0_0

Hennes

14:00

Hmm, a galaxy S5 looks like a decent phone one it has android 5.0

Bob

'lo @allquixotic :P

Journeyman Geek

hola

I got a secret hat

Bob

@JourneymanGeek pretty sure I saw that last year

Journeyman Geek

14:20

I'm pretty sure it references the dress

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ...dress?

qasdfdsaq

Yeah the dress

Bob

Oh, I saw someone with nice ATH headphones on the train the other day. Finally something other than Beats and Bose! :P

Only problem: they were on backwards o.O

qasdfdsaq

LOL

Bose aren't bad tbh

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I hunted down a nice pair of audio technicas for my dad. On a budget....

he prefers the stock HTC headphones I passed to him as a spare ><

Bob

14:28

@qasdfdsaq Nowhere near Beats, true, but they're probably the second most popular... nice to see some decent variety :P

Journeyman Geek

I have fisher audio. ;p

qasdfdsaq

@Bob At least Bose are popular due to a reputation for quality, not because of Dr Dre's name slapped on the side

Journeyman Geek

(though my outdoor phones are xiomi)

qasdfdsaq

Though these days you'll usually find me walking around with Shures

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Ya. IMO they're still a bit overpriced for the quality (as usual when a brand is popular, it's nothing new), but the quality is decent at least.

Hm. Not so much overpriced, but to an extent you're paying for the brand.

Then again, I generally don't buy the higher end of audio equipment in the first place -_-

Journeyman Geek

14:31

lol

Bob

At some point the subtleties are lost on my shitty ears.

Journeyman Geek

I'm picky but my hear lasts for years

Bob

I just want somethng comfortable and with decent isolation.

Oh, and doesn't sound like crap but that's not too hard a barrier.

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Stuff in pocket, damage/loss? meh.

Journeyman Geek

14:33

@Bob actually pretty solidly bult

Bob

Especially in the rain.

Journeyman Geek

and you will destroy padded over the head in a year or two in singapore.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek My older set already started fraying a bit around the plug :P

And the 3s aren't too good outside... not as good isolation as 2

Journeyman Geek

The pistons or the paperbacks?

qasdfdsaq

My padded over the ear ones have survived for several years, but I don't use them a great eal

deal*

Journeyman Geek

14:34

@qasdfdsaq weather here is hot and humid

and you sweat

qasdfdsaq

But the cable is replaceable, and so are the earmuffs

Bob

@JourneymanGeek then stop swearing! :P

@qasdfdsaq how much does a proper replacement cost, though?

qasdfdsaq

LOL

@Bob Cable? It's a fairly standard one so a couple quid off ebay. Earmuffs? Got a spare pair in the box

Bob

There's no way I'd find the replacement parts nearby :(

Journeyman Geek

I'm probably picking up a FA003 as a spare 3 or so months into my next job if its available

qasdfdsaq

14:35

I dunno if the fabric coated ones fray less, but I certainly have melted through a pair of Sony's cabling when in the US

Journeyman Geek

and see if I can get something to cover the headband so it lasts longer.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Oh, I meant the OEM ones. Though I suppose you could hunt a bit on ebay to find something that matches.

allquixotic

@Bob o/

Bob

All my cheap ebay 3.5mm cables tend to (a) not really fit well and (b) come in a rather plain white that does not match my black/grey headphones :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

qasdfdsaq

14:36

@Bob £15 for the official OEM ones

Bob

I don't know how the manage tolerances bad enough to screw up the fit of a 3.5mm cable :S

qasdfdsaq

But they're waaay too long to use in public anyway

Journeyman Geek

@Bob my preferred 'cheapie' 3.5mm cables are 1. fat plugged 2. purple

But I use them to connect gear

qasdfdsaq

Hah, the cheap Ebay replacements are better and listed in AUD

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Ah, yea. Not cheap, but a reasonably small portion of the original price I guess. Problem is if I ever want to find that stuff here I'd basically pay the same again for shipping.

qasdfdsaq

14:37

ebay.co.uk/itm/like/…

Bob

Listed in AUD o.O

Oh, actually designed for those headphones? nice

qasdfdsaq

About 10% the original cost either way

Journeyman Geek

Man

qasdfdsaq

Much the same as a replacement cable for my se535's. £400 earphones, £40 cable

Journeyman Geek

I love/hate the screw on 1/4 inch adaptor

Bob

14:39

This was the crappy kind I was thinking of :P ebay.com.au/itm/…

Journeyman Geek

they are awesome if you mainly need 1/4 inch. Kinda sucks when you lose em

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Oh I have those too, but I use them at home

Journeyman Geek

or run em over with a chair.

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Yea, seems fairly standard. Same goes for a lot of things.

e.g. phone batteries

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek LOL.

Bob

14:39

though printer ink is more like 1000%

qasdfdsaq

You can easily fit non-screw-on ones to the same plug y'know

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq or getting a 1/4 inch to 3.5mm adaptor

@qasdfdsaq yeah, I did that when the ones on my ATH-M50 were damaged

Bob

@allquixotic Cat! Cat in a hat!

Journeyman Geek

fisher's mostly on my cheap amp

@Bob I forget, did you get the fort?

Bob

@allquixotic Now you just need a new avatar :P c2.staticflickr.com/2/1211/1442991063_394351f3e4.jpg

@JourneymanGeek Yup.

Haven't used it much since I got the new laptop though.

And spotify

Most music is through my phone now

Journeyman Geek

14:41

ahh

I still mostly use my PC so...

qasdfdsaq

Ooh Singapore uses UK plugs

Bob

The whole point was a workaround to avoid the shitty beats drivers :P

qasdfdsaq

I shouldn't need to pack a row of adapters then

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Singapore, HK and UK all

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq Why wouldn't we?

Bob

14:42

I don't know if any other countries do

my sole UK-plug device is an HP laptop charger purchased in HK :P

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek Most of the world don't?

Journeyman Geek

India uses the old style british "almost euro plug"

@qasdfdsaq we left the empire fairly late

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Yes, well, if you're going by population most of the world uses ... actually what does India use?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob the round pre-war british plugs

~ the same as europlugs

Bob

The US has their dodgy plug that falls out half the time

allquixotic

14:43

dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2769206/…

qasdfdsaq

I was thinking more geography. The largest countries and unions all don't use UK plugs

Bob

AU, NZ and part of China uses AU plugs

qasdfdsaq

US, Canada, Russia, China, Everywhere in Europe except the UK

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I thought china just gave up and uses universal sockets everywhere ;p

@qasdfdsaq french plugs are just wierd

(and the koreans use em too)

Bob

China is weird. They use AU plugs for grounded sockets and something that looks like US for ungrounded.

The two are incompatible, of course.

qasdfdsaq

14:44

I thought the French just used ordinary EU sockets

Bob

And they mount the AU-like ones upside-down

Journeyman Geek

I donno if the germans use em

I thought eurosockets were 2 pin ungrounded.

Bob

(and they have no regulations on coating the pins, so it's a tad dangerous when we import those...)

Journeyman Geek

These were like round

qasdfdsaq

Euro sockets are round

Bob

14:45

@JourneymanGeek They have a lot of those for powerboards, but most wall sockets are one or the other

Journeyman Geek

Ok

Bob

older ones are purely the ungrounded ones

Journeyman Geek

Euros are wierd

Bob

Schuko?

qasdfdsaq

google.co.uk/search?q=euro+plugs

Journeyman Geek

14:46

Everyone should just accept british sockets are better

qasdfdsaq

Altough we do use the flat variety too, I think they're imported from China or some shit

Journeyman Geek

and adopt them and 220-240V like civilised folk

allquixotic

planelopnik.kinja.com/…

Bob

@qasdfdsaq Flat variety?

As in the US-ish ones?

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Flat plug, round pins

Journeyman Geek

14:46

| | or \ / ?

Ahh

Yeah, that's the europlug

Bob

@qasdfdsaq China doesn't use round pins

qasdfdsaq

That's the non-round plug that fits the same socket but ungrounded

TBH I hate UK plugs. As do most people

Journeyman Geek

Europlug

The Europlug (CEE 7/16) is a non-rewirable flat, two-pole domestic AC power plug that must be supplied attached to a power cord. It is rated for voltages up to 250 V and currents up to 2.5 A. It was designed such that it can safely be used in the domestic power sockets of most European countries, except for the BS 1363 system found in Cyprus, Gibraltar, Ireland, Malta and the United Kingdom. == HistoryEdit == The Europlug design, intended for use with socket-outlets meeting other standards, appeared first in 1963 as Alternative II of Standard Sheet XVI in the second edition of CEE Publication 7...

Bob

UK plug aka foot-mauler :P

Journeyman Geek

You can use that with an adaptor

Bob

14:47

LEGO substitute

Journeyman Geek

@Bob built to last.

qasdfdsaq

@Bob Thing is the round EU ones are just as bad

Bob

s/last/maim/

qasdfdsaq

The flat ones are better, yes. But round are just as bad

Huh if Europlugs are flat, what the hell are these

Because that's what all "european" plugs I come across look like

Bob

Schuko.

Journeyman Geek

14:48

That's a schuko

qasdfdsaq

Interesting

Never heard of that

Journeyman Geek

What I used to call "THe french hermaphodite plug"

Bob

We like to keep things simple around here.

qasdfdsaq

The sticky out ones aren't actually Schukos it seems

Bob

@qasdfdsaq huh? o.O

Journeyman Geek

14:49

OH

I think you are thinking of the old british standard

qasdfdsaq

Schuko have the earths as flat blades around the outside of the plug

There's another type that has an earth pin sticking out of the socket

Bob

Hm.

qasdfdsaq

The plug in the image above is a universal one that accepts both

But the hole in the plug isn't used for a true Schuko socket

Journeyman Geek

AC power plugs and sockets: British and related types

Plugs and sockets for electrical appliances not hardwired to mains electricity originated in Britain in the 1880s and were initially two-pin designs. These were usually sold as a mating pair, but gradually de facto and then official standards arose to enable the interchange of compatible devices. British standards have proliferated throughout large parts of the former British Empire. BS 546, Two-pole and earthing-pin plugs, socket-outlets and socket-outlet adaptors for AC (50-60 Hz) circuits up to 250 V is a British Standard for three pin AC power plugs and sockets. Originally published in April...

qasdfdsaq

The hermaphrodite ones are French, the Schuko are German I think

But yeah, pretty much the whole of Europe

Journeyman Geek

14:51

ahh

Bob

Ah.

qasdfdsaq

Guess I'm accustomed to calling them EU plugs because most of europe uses them

Bob

This really is a situation for

!!xkcd standards

...

!! are you alive

:(

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq not to be confused with the europlug....

qasdfdsaq

Between all those and the Danish and Swiss plugs, it's funny the Europlug fits all of them

Journeyman Geek

14:52

which is reasonably common here

@qasdfdsaq by design

qasdfdsaq

Well the Europlug fits UK, German, French, Danish, and Swiss sockets

Bob

O_O

Journeyman Geek

and heh

qasdfdsaq

@Bob That'd be swiss

Bob

That's an awesome socket. But mildly creepy.

qasdfdsaq

14:53

Also there's italian...

Bob

Ah. Good ol' pins-in-a-line.

Journeyman Geek

so the earth contact dosen't connect first?

qasdfdsaq

I wonder what Thailand uses

Bob

dammit how do I say it

qasdfdsaq

Apparently the Thai's gave up and adopted universal sockets too

Bob

14:54

@qasdfdsaq Apparently common Chinese sockets do accept europlugs as you said above.

But their actual plugs are either AU-type or NEMA-type.

qasdfdsaq

Go Europlug! \o/

The Mastercard of the plug world

Bob

Won't work here :P

qasdfdsaq

Accepted everywhere

Bob

Though I wonder if you could jam a two-pin AU plug into a europlug socket

qasdfdsaq

power-plugs-sockets.com/thailand Interesting

Bob

14:56

@qasdfdsaq Anyway universal adapters are easy and cheap enough as long as you don't go to the US or Japan :P

qasdfdsaq

WTH is a Type B socket. I've seen them in bathrooms everywhere, but not sure where they're from

Eh I have US adapters anyway

Bob

@qasdfdsaq What, voltage too? Or just for the SMPS devices?

qasdfdsaq

Everything of mine is univeral voltage

Bob

@qasdfdsaq That's grounded NEMA

qasdfdsaq

Not to mention aircraft sockets are all 110v, so they have to be

Bob

14:58

aka shocked-face

NEMA connector

NEMA connectors are power plugs and receptacles used for AC mains electricity in North America and other countries that use the standards set by the US National Electrical Manufacturers Association. NEMA wiring devices are made in current ratings from 15 to 60 amperes, with voltage ratings from 125 to 600 volts. Different combinations of contact blade widths, shapes, orientation, and dimensions create non-interchangeable connectors that are unique for each combination of voltage, electric current carrying capacity, and grounding system. NEMA 1 (two-prong, no DC safety ground) and NEMA 5 (three...

qasdfdsaq

Interesting

NEMA (grounded and ungrounded) seem common in European bathrooms for some reason

And on trains

We call them colloquially "Shaver sockets" here

Journeyman Geek

@qasdfdsaq there's a standard shaver socket

Bob

@qasdfdsaq I see them in hotels and pretty much nowhere else :P

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