Root Access

Bob

01:00

@bwDraco As always, it's about the connections.

Talking to recruiters in uni can help a lot.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco I've got a non trivial amount of experience. Am still trying to get hired again. shrug Finding work is a full time job ;)

Ramhound

@bwDraco - Depending on your background, location, federal employment is great.

bwDraco

I'm a New Yorker. It really shouldn't be this hard to find a job.

Ramhound

Alright; USA Jobs, I can give you specifics some other night, but there are specific programs that target graduates with little experience that allow them to work up to certain GS grade in a short amount of time

We can talk about specific keywords :-)

that indicate said position

qasdfdsaq

"Finding work is a full time job ;)"

Staying on benefits here is too

bwDraco

01:09

@JourneymanGeek: Can you delete this and related?

Journeyman Geek

k

I doubt anyone's going back and flagging it to sabotage cavil tho

qasdfdsaq

@JourneymanGeek Why would people who aren't even here just lurk in the background and secretly flag stuff anyway?

bwDraco

@qasdfdsaq, just a reminder: Please do not abuse the chatbot. John Cavil is provided for the benefit of the community and is not intended to be used to generate offensive or NSFW messages.

Bob

@bwDraco I think he's got the message by now.

!!ban qasdfdsaq

qasdfdsaq

Someone said a message?

ChatBot John Cavil

01:14

@Bob qasdfdsaq added to mindjail.

bwDraco

sigh

qasdfdsaq

Bastard

bwDraco

Flagged.

qasdfdsaq

!!ban bob

:(

That's it, I'm quitting SU

Bob

@bwDraco ...**That makes it worse**

StackExchange

01:15

Nathan Osman has frozen this room.

Nathan Osman

Alright, everyone calm down for a minute.

Journeyman Geek

@NathanOsman Hi!

Nathan Osman

@JourneymanGeek Hi.

Journeyman Geek

@NathanOsman Its under control.

Nathan Osman

Okay.

You may want to unfreeze the room.

Journeyman Geek

01:16

I'll have a word with @qasdfdsaq once he's out of suspension

Nathan Osman

I leave things in your hands :P

Journeyman Geek

hm

It seems to be unfrozen?

Unless freeze is a toggle.

StackExchange

Doorknob has unfrozen this room.

Doorknob

@JourneymanGeek It was frozen. Blame caching?

Journeyman Geek

Thanks @Doorknob

Maybe!

@Bob can you confirm its unfrozen?

bwDraco

01:18

Room's unfrozen.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Yep.

Suspension? o.O

Journeyman Geek

Ok guys. This isn't the lounge or the bridge. While I hate suspending people, if I can't politely tell someone not to do something, and they don't listen, I'm going to have to do what's necessary.

@Bob yeah. I did tell him not to abuse the bot.

bwDraco

5 mins ago, by bwDraco

@qasdfdsaq, just a reminder: Please do not abuse the chatbot. John Cavil is provided for the benefit of the community and is not intended to be used to generate offensive or NSFW messages.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek He's been bot-banned now anyway.

bwDraco

Instead, qasdfdsaq proceeded to act defiantly.

Journeyman Geek

01:20

@Bob I'd suggest keeping that bot ban up

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I was actually thinking more along the lines of unbanning once he can confirm that it's not a joking matter.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob as you wish.

Bob

There's the very real and rather high (if a certain team member sees) chance of the bot being permanently banned, unfortunately.

Journeyman Geek

He'll be back in an hour (could have sworn suspensions were set in minutes)

Yup

Bob

The whole bot argument got a bit heated back when it was first brought up. Must be a year or two ago now.

Journeyman Geek

01:21

I certainly took that into consideration.

Bob

Dunno if said bot-hater has changed his mind a bit since.

Journeyman Geek

(Since I consider the bot a common good, and we do have uses for it)

Bob

I would've actually preferred to ignore all that fuss, but since we have so many flags (and eyes) on it now... :(

bwDraco

A suspension on the main site is probably warranted.

Journeyman Geek

Nope

Bob

01:22

@bwDraco Calm down. There is absolutely no reason to escalate this further.

Journeyman Geek

I actually wanted to just throw him 10 minutes, but apparently suspensions are set in hours.

(hm, can I do fractions?)

Michael Frank

Huh... I go and do some work for 10 minutes and you guys almost burn the place down!

bwDraco

Gosh. How unruly.

Journeyman Geek

IKR?

bwDraco

I've tried to address some issues and qasdfdsaq has proven to be uncooperative.

Michael Frank

01:27

I need a new fountain pen.

Bob

@MichaelFrank :D

bwDraco

@MichaelFrank Continue? Did your pen fail in some manner?

Journeyman Geek

;p

Michael Frank

@bwDraco No particular reason. My Visionnaire isn't very good.

Journeyman Geek

I need to find my mechanical pencil ;p

(I picked up a maker's notebook for cheap ;p)

Bob

01:28

@MichaelFrank That's because it's a cheapo rebranded and sold as a kickstarter scam :\

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank I kinda like lamy.

Bob

Grab a Lamy Safari?

Or Pilot 78G for cheaper.

Journeyman Geek

^^^

Michael Frank

I know T_T

Bob

You can find the Safari pretty cheap on eBay shipped from Malaysia.

Michael Frank

01:30

@Bob ebay.com.my?

Bob

@MichaelFrank ebay.com.au for me

bwDraco

@MichaelFrank I'm not one to pick a cheap pen. If you can afford it, get a Pelikan Souverän.

My M600 has proven to be extremely reliable.

Bob

@MichaelFrank Not the one I bought, but pretty cheap price: ebay.com.au/itm/…

bwDraco

pelikan.com/pulse/Pulsar/en_US.FWI.displayShop.93680./…

Bob

Peters of Kensington has good prices. Unfortunately $15 shipping to NZ: ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-Lamy-Safari-Fountain-Pen-Matte-Charcoal-/…

...If it costs less for me to ship there, I can forward it to you, @MichaelFrank?

bwDraco

01:34

The least expensive fountain pen I currently use is a Pilot Prera.

Bob

brb lunch

Michael Frank

@bwDraco That looks pricey!

bwDraco

@MichaelFrank The M600 ran me US$300 when I first got it. It's now closer to $400.

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Heh...

bwDraco

You can also look at the much less expensive M200 from the Classic series.

Kit Z. Fox

01:40

Hi @JourneymanGeek. waves

Journeyman Geek

Hi!

lol

@bwDraco heh, that's practically hardware money for me ;p

Bob

@KitZ.Fox what's with the Z? :P

bwDraco

I'm a bit concerned about qasdfdsaq's newly edited profile.

> I used to like you JmG :(

See the user's main site profile.

(Not reposting it here because it contains NSFW content.)

Kit Z. Fox

@Bob People perceive people with middle initials as more intelligent and capable.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco Shrug

Its a one hour suspension, and that's pretty much the minimum. I think we can deal with that after he's off suspension.

Michael Frank

01:45

@KitZ.Fox I remember getting the Bart Simpson guide to life book when I was younger. It had a 'This belongs to...' section in the front where Bart had scrawled "Bart J. Simpson (The j stands for jenius)".

bwDraco

I just want to practice doing dispute resolution. This is what I'll need to learn if I'm to have any hope of becoming a mod.

Kit Z. Fox

I had business cards that listed "Jeenyus" as my profession.

bwDraco

I just want to do my part.

Kit Z. Fox

When I was freelancing.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco The first rule of dispute resolution, don't butt in when someone else is dealing with it.

Kit Z. Fox

01:46

@bwDraco First thing is, keep a cool head.

Journeyman Geek

;p

Kit Z. Fox

Second thing is, don't talk about Fight Club.

Third thing is... um. Profit.

Journeyman Geek

Profit????

Michael Frank

@KitZ.Fox No, no, no.

Kit Z. Fox

I might have mixed some things up there.

Journeyman Geek

01:47

WHY DOTH NO ONE TELL ME THESE THINGS?

Michael Frank

That's Fourth.

Kit Z. Fox

I thought fourth was "don't be a [jerk]."

Eight is use sudo only when necessary.

And twelve is drummers drumming?

Journeyman Geek

shop.heathkit.com/shop/product/…

drool

Daniel

YES

RETURN OF THE HEATHKIT

Journeyman Geek

Its entirely pointless. but oh so pretty

Kit Z. Fox

01:51

I forget the others. They make us memorize them when we get the diamond, but after getting branded and getting the soles of our feet beaten, it gets a bit hazy.

Journeyman Geek

If they made a headphone amp I'd probably buy it

Daniel

^

Journeyman Geek

@KitZ.Fox Oh, I think they did that specially for you.

Kit Z. Fox

@JourneymanGeek ...

Damn it.

Is that OK to say in here? I forgot to ask your language rating.

Michael Frank

@Bob Lamy Safari 17 FP with Z24 conv M - £18.48 @ thewritingdesk.co.uk

Daniel

01:52

ooooh, pretty

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek: Be advised that I'm getting personal attacks via qasdfdsaq's chat profile.

> And bwDraco stop whinging about me cause you're pissed you got blocked.

Kit Z. Fox

So I was thinking of getting some kind of soldering kit for my eldest for Christmas. Is this a good group to ask for recommendations?

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco stop egging him on then

@KitZ.Fox Stuff to use for soldering or ...

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Don't feed the troll(s) -_-

Journeyman Geek

Some of us do it recreationally

Kit Z. Fox

01:53

@JourneymanGeek ... or ?

Daniel

Get an FM radio kit @KitZ.Fox

bwDraco

My lack of real moderation experience is just getting to me.

Journeyman Geek

@KitZ.Fox actual kits?

Daniel

My late grandfather got me one of those 5 years ago when I was 11. It was wonderful

bwDraco

Well, then, just teach me.

Kit Z. Fox

01:54

He's seven, almost eight, and likes coding. I'd like to get him into electronics type of stuff and I think soldering something would be fun for him to learn.

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Firstly, you probably shouldn't moderate situations you're directly involved in.

Daniel

Get him an arduino kit then @KitZ.Fox

Journeyman Geek

@KitZ.Fox If you're in the US adafruit's the right place to start IMO

Michael Frank

@KitZ.Fox HumbleBundle has a bunch of eBooks on this for sale at the moment.

Kit Z. Fox

I'm in the US. Can you point to specific stuff? I was a developer, but electronics/robotics type of stuff I have extremely limited experience with.

Daniel

01:55

instructables.com/id/Arduino-Digital-FM-Radio-TEA5767

bwDraco

A lot to learn...

Daniel

try that

Kit Z. Fox

Oh, what about some kind of RC car kit?

Daniel

no that's an arduino powered FM receiver

Kit Z. Fox

Yes, sorry, that was a separate thought.

Daniel

01:56

I'm not sure why it's on an RC car chassis

Journeyman Geek

hm

@KitZ.Fox Its a tiny bit pricy but adafruit.com/products/136 seems like everything you need to start off.

Kit Z. Fox

@bwDraco Stop looking at it. Let your own brain take a break from it.

Daniel

ooooh pretty

That's a decent set of tools

Kit Z. Fox

@JourneymanGeek Oooh, I like that.

bwDraco

I'm trying my hardest to remain neutral and calm.

Daniel

01:57

My only complaint would be that the vise isn't clamp-on, meaning he must drill holes in the table

and he can't move it around

Kit Z. Fox

@bwDraco Join our conversation. It will help you take your mind off it. That will give you better focus later.

Journeyman Geek

I think the panavise is heavy enough not to need that

Kit Z. Fox

@Daniel We could probably attach it on the end of the Lego table.

Bob

@MichaelFrank walked down to DS. DVRs empty. Cameras empty. Lots of stock of other crap

Journeyman Geek

I use a third hand rather than a panavise

Daniel

01:58

^

Bob

And then the fire alarm went off

Daniel

That would work @KitZ.Fox

Michael Frank

@Bob THESE SALES ARE TOO HOT

Kit Z. Fox

@JourneymanGeek You have THREE HANDS?

Journeyman Geek

adafruit.com/products/291

third hand

Daniel

01:59

^ envy

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