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KDecker

00:00

Well..

@Bob Anymore comments?

From what I can tell, with CSM on I can boot the UEFI mode. So it should install windows in UEFI mode.

I assume with CSM off the Win7 setup "shits its pants" for some reason or the other that hopefully does not affect my install

Bob

@KDecker ...that is weird.

Secure Boot off?

KDecker

Havent done that just yet

But you think SB off and CSM off it should work ok?

Bob

In theory.

But you never know with motherboard firmware...

KDecker

Ok then otherwise

If it does not. Does it make sense that with CSM On I will be installing in UEFI mode?

Note: With CSM on I can load into the UEFI setup (from what I can tell)

Bob

@KDecker As long as you boot into the UEFI setup then it should work.

But you might want to make sure it isn't falling back to the non-UEFI setup :S

KDecker

00:12

@Bob Yeah I want to do that. But I am not sure how to make sure.

I mean with the 'Boot Override' it should be booting to, and only to, the drive I click on

If I Boot Override to my HDD it enters the "please insert drive" message loop and doesnt try the next drive

If I boot the the UEFI (the one that didnt work) from override, it took me directly back to the UEFI BIOS of the MOBO

So I have to assume clicking on it with boot override it does infact boot to it and only it

But, is there a way to make sure?

Hennes

Right. Finished my coffee. Now time for sleep.

Bob

@KDecker Install and pray? :P

Hennes

Waves. See you all in 6-7 hours (when I have to get up for glorious work. Yay!)

KDecker

I assume the only way to check for sure is to enter the command prompt in the setup it takes me to and run some random command...

Bob

@Hennes ...coffee before sleep?

Hennes

00:15

Ofc.

KDecker

My thought would be to check to see if the bootx64 file is in use? Would that be possible?

Hennes

Makes you more relaxed, calm. Easier to fall aslaap

KDecker

01:11

@Bob well. UEFI install did not work

Went through the whol installation process and left me with a bot option "windows boot manager"

Gave me the exact same error in the picture I gave

So I installed under the non UEFI

So.

I guess I can handle it

THANK YOU so much for all the help!

Bob

01:33

@KDecker Does non-UEFI work?

KDecker

Yeah Got all the drivers load and all

Bob

I'm really surprised you got that error on the installed version.

Perhaps mis-set efi vars? could probably fix that if you wanted to try, but it seems you've gone an alternate route anyway

KDecker

Yeah I figured once it installed id be good

Yeah once it installed I went back in and screwed with CSM

KDecker

01:53

and secure boot

but nothing came of it

so... eh ill stic with non uefi and be happy

but well see how the SSD performs....

KDecker

02:50

@allquixotic Just pinging you to this conversation point so you can see how the install went ^. :(

Journeyman Geek

@TristanWiley that looks like an awesome question for hardware recommendations.

Michael Frank

03:01

This is how the "Service Desk" communicate to us that they want someone to look at this job.

allquixotic

03:12

@MichaelFrank can I act like a Service Desk person to you?

Hi

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Q: usb tethering from pc to android via usb data cable

i have micromax canvas A1 and i want to do reverse tethering from my pc to my this device , but iam unable to do so . i have tried it so many times but the process stops after accepting superuser rights .

Michael Frank

@allquixotic did you do the needful ?

Journeyman Geek

03:28

Reverse teathering seems on topic

but that's a little thin on details

Michael Frank

Pretty sure he's trying to tether a piece of paper to his pc though. Dunno if paper is on topic.

qasdfdsaq

It interfaces with his PC, that's the criteria

HackToHell

Lauching bf3 opens a shitty webpage in my browser

I'm supposed to launch the game from shitty webpage -_- ?

qasdfdsaq

@HackToHell Yes

Michael Frank

03:52

@HackToHell It was a cool concept. But so so sooooo slow.

You could manage loadouts and your soldiers without needing to actually enter the game.

Ramhound

There a way to get my rencent pings that happened in this chat? Want to get back with somebody that asked me a question I think it was monday

Figured it out

@NateKerkhofs The MCT was updated today it's 1511 again

bwDraco

04:12

Was thinking about this: we've come to a point where storage performance is advancing so fast that the interfaces over which the drives communicate cannot keep up.

pcworld.com/article/2921412/…

...not to mention that even modern high-performance CPUs are becoming a bottleneck when SSDs can handle multiple gigabytes of sequential I/Os a second and hundreds of thousands of IOPS.

Now what?

For some two decades, typical workloads on consumer computer systems have been I/O bound. They're now becoming compute-bound, and the industry has not been able to keep up.

With even faster non-volatile memory technologies like 3D XPoint on the horizon, we're fast approaching a point where we have too much storage performance and not enough compute to fully utilize it.

> Storage so fast, only the highest-end PCs can keep up

pcworld.com/article/2904340/…

Too much storage performance, not enough compute. Now what?

qasdfdsaq

04:34

We have plenty of compute. Modern CPUs are limited by memory not being fast enough, let alone storage.

We have too much compute and even interfaces like quad-channel DDR4 are too slow to feed them.

HackToHell

@MichaelFrank That sorta makes sense, but yeah too slow

bwDraco

The big issue is storage latency. NVMe addresses the latency issue but you'd be hard-pressed to find any consumer workload that will saturate the Intel SSD 750 even on a fast CPU.

qasdfdsaq

Actually most high-end enterprise workloads are storage and memory bottlenecked.

Seeing as the Intel 750 is an enterprise SSD.

That's no different to saying there aren't many enterprise workloads that'll saturate a Geforce GTX 980. Well duh.

HackToHell

lol twitter.com/JealousElonMusk

oldmud0

04:50

what's ironic, is how terribly fast our computers are but even then our tablets still rely on cloud computing for all the number crunching and still suck at 3D rendering

Journeyman Geek

3d rendering's the only really hard problem for consumer systems IMO

oldmud0

and now they want to stream THAT too... @_@

bwDraco

@oldmud0 Can concur, I've been spending more and more time using a Linode VPS as a cloud desktop through VNC on my Nexus 9

Will be AFK for 20 minutes or so, see ya in a bit.

Journeyman Geek

and for 90% of things we don't need all that much power.

oldmud0

I ran my computer through windows performance recorder yesterday. verdict: kaspersky is murdering my boot times again

bwDraco

04:53

@JourneymanGeek This is why low-power CPUs (ARM, Core m, Atom, etc.) are all the rage these days.

oldmud0

maybe I should get an SSD, the prices are starting to get stable

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco and that's why we don't actually have any real major bottlenecks for most users.

bwDraco

Battery life and compactness matter more than raw compute these days.

oldmud0

the price for a 120GB SSD has halved since a few years ago

Journeyman Geek

@oldmud0: I'd go 250/256 personally

oldmud0

04:55

heck they are even starting to sell 1 TB SSDs

finally finished replacing all the drives on my ancient 2003 server

stupid openmanage won't let me do an online expansion though

also added a hotswap for safe measure

Anyone seen a flash drive thinner than this? i.imgur.com/DA4fR10.jpg

I got it after my friend gave it to me saying that it didn't work because he got some pancake mix on the leads. Needless to say, I got it to work.

@JourneymanGeek your IT support bot is missing a feature. It needs to install Adobe Reader.

bwDraco

05:12

@oldmud0 Consumer SSDs have hit 2 TB. 4 TB drives are on the market for enterprise applications and will be available soon for the consumer market.

oldmud0

:o

@bwDraco are they intended to be put in a RAID config?

allquixotic

the price per GB at 4 TB is still insane... for now

bwDraco

At this point, SSDs have already exceeded the storage density of conventional hard drives.

oldmud0

I am so disappointed that the 3.5mm jack on the ti84 plus CE was removed. It takes out a lot of applications that require analog like audio.

I don't think TI is enforcing code signing on apps yet though.

bwDraco

I kinda wish there were more competitors on the graphing calculator market. I have an HP Prime and it's simply incredible.

TI has the market cornered.

oldmud0

05:18

yeah....

If Casio could just make a cheap knockoff of the TI-84 and sell it for half the price, it would really help the market

Those calculators aren't even worth $100 anymore, nowadays it's just $35 worth of parts, labor, and software.

bwDraco

At least my local Best Buy stocks the Prime. It's still rather buggy, though. For example, it's prone to soft-bricking during firmware updates because the update process has a tendency to fail while in progress.

oldmud0

Hah, sounds like my router before I installed dd-wrt on it.

Journeyman Geek

150 usd buys you a 10 inch screen and a celeron processor....

So yeah, 35usd or less.

oldmud0

ti still makes more money off the 84 than their flagship SOCs

defragging my computer is hopeless. Defraggler was stuck at 1% for 3 hours..

bwDraco

Back to the compute discussion, there's something I find rather ironic these days.

Throughout the 1970s and up until the late 1980s, much computing was done on big centralized computer systems, and thin clients were the norm.

Back then, it was because computers were very expensive and it was best to have people share one big machine rather than to have each person have their own computer to work on.

oldmud0

05:28

and then computers got cheap, and VGA came around, right..?

Journeyman Geek

The PC came around

bwDraco

Then as the personal computing revolution took fold, prices had come down and individuals could afford their own computer systems.

Journeyman Geek

Even then tho, there were systems for specialised, high power user

bwDraco

Today, we're slowing moving back towards the centralized computing model.

The reasons, however, are slightly different.

oldmud0

every time I think of VGA, I think of this obscure video: youtube.com/watch?v=UsvCI7dOZ50 (some language)

bwDraco

05:30

The modern computer user demands mobility and access everywhere, and modern computer systems are powerful enough to enable productivity on even compact, lightweight, and low-power devices.

With advances in computer technology, ubiquitous Internet access, and the demands of the modern economy, the economies of scale and performance potential of high-powered servers shared amongst many users are becoming evident once again.

Chromebooks were (and often still are) little more than Internet thin clients.

oldmud0

@bwDraco that's what they are and have always been

at least they have good battery life, but no caps key

and you can't play minecraft on it

bwDraco

The more I play with my Linode cloud desktop, the more it grows on me.

(I have one Linode instance that runs my website and another that serves as my Linux cloud desktop.)

I'm finding myself on my big-and-heavy gaming laptop less and less.

With a tablet, a Bluetooth keyboard (perhaps integrated into a case), and (optionally) a Bluetooth mouse, you can be productive pretty much anywhere. Add a mobile broadband service (or even tether from your smartphone) and you may never need a laptop again.

Can't say this will work for everyone, but it's a reality with today's technology.

oldmud0

isn't that the apple philosophy?

bwDraco

05:48

Example: Karma gives you an unlimited 5 Mbps LTE mobile broadband solution for $50 a month.

As technology improves, prices will continue to drop and speeds will go up.

When you tie it all together, it's becoming evident that working almost entirely in the cloud with lightweight, low-power computing equipment is becoming a reality.

yieldthought.com/post/12239282034/…

oldmud0

you definitely sound like an apple person

bwDraco

I'm not really an Apple guy. I don't like their closed systems.

I'm really more a Google fan.

oldmud0

elgoog?

they're a decent compromise between the walled-garden simplistic nature of apple and the demands of the power users to have control over everything

android still isn't an OS for power users, although it does have adb for Windows and allows installing APKs from a file (both big pluses compared to iOS)

Journeyman Geek

lol

@oldmud0 in a lot of cases, my little 11 inch netbook is my go to system.

Granted, given a choice I favour my desktop

oldmud0

In the news, yet another piece of research conducted by none other than someone at MIT. God I wish I could go study there and do something great.

bwDraco

06:02

My laptop serves as my main workstation whenever I need to do anything serious, but I'm just not pulling out my laptop anywhere near as much any more. My busy schedule as a grad student has put me on my Nexus 9 more often than not.

I just love the whole idea of running your own server in the cloud and being able to work from anywhere.

oldmud0

Sure, if you have money to spare.

bwDraco

$20 a month gets you a dual-core cloud server with 2 GB of memory and 48GB of storage, running the Linux distro of your choice.

oldmud0

well, off to bed, good night

bwDraco

Good night to you too.

Leathe

you could get a kimsufi server :P

20 euros gets you a 4 core, 16GB RAM, 2 TB storage

bwDraco

06:10

Latency. I need a server that's near me.

Linode's closest datacenter is in Newark, NJ, close enough that the latency is generally very low.

Journeyman Geek

online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-xc I run one of these

allquixotic

@bwDraco you can get a lot more than that in Amazon's Virginia datacenter if you go spot instance :P

bwDraco

I'd rather not have a server that's in Europe as the 100+ ms latency is not acceptable for usage as a cloud desktop.

The ping needs to be less than 50 ms for my applications.

Around here on my rather slow cable Internet connection, ping to my server hovers around 35-40ms.

(It's a bit better on the much faster campus Wi-Fi, where it is closer to 25 ms.)

...and I'd prefer the simple pricing model that Linode has, as well as the fact that they've been in the business for more than 12 years.

Journeyman Geek

07:36

tech.slashdot.org/story/15/11/25/049259/…

(I got a notification when that happened actually)

Not great behaviour tho

Boris_yo

08:28

I am wary of these things...

Kmart pops up window to sign-in and I don't see HTTPS in URL.

And what is shld.net anyway? Should I report security risk?

Bob

@Boris_yo dslreports.com/forum/…

Boris_yo

08:47

@Bob Interesting. Thanks.

Bob

@Boris_yo What site did you encounter that on?

Might be related to Sears.

DavidPostill

@Bob, presumably Kmart ;) From the link you posted "Sears Holdings company operates 3,900 retail locations under the mastheads of Sears, Sears Grand, Sears Essentials, Sears Hardware, Kmart, Big Kmart, Super Kmart, The Great Indoors, Orchard Supply Hardware, and Lands' End stores."

Bob

@DavidPostill ...I didn't see his message mentioning Kmart :S

Journeyman Geek

26 mins ago, by Boris_yo

Kmart pops up window to sign-in and I don't see HTTPS in URL.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I mean, I didn't see it the first time round. Saw it after David mentioned it.

Journeyman Geek

08:58

ahh ;p

Oliver Salzburg

Outlook shows an unread email in a folder, but there isn't one in it. When I right-click the folder and select "Mark folder read" it still shows an unread email

!!urgetokillrising

ChatBot John Cavil

@OliverSalzburg That didn't make much sense. Use the !!/help command to learn more.

Oliver Salzburg

@ChatBotJohnCavil It made sense to me!

DavidPostill

@Oliver

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Q: Outlook sometimes marks folder with one unread message

In an Outlook folder, sometimes even though I marked all messages as read, the folder list shows "1", as if there's an unread message. Note: This is Outlook connected to a corporate Exchange server.

microsoft-outlook microsoft-outlook-2013

@OliverSalzburg I remember fixing it by toggling online/offline mode and resyncing

Journeyman Geek

09:19

lol

→ 3 messages moved to Trashcan

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Well that was completely unecessary :P

Journeyman Geek

>_>

Oliver Salzburg

@DavidPostill That didn't work. I now have an empty folder with unread messages

Re-open and toggling offline has no effect

Woah! Now it works

Had to click the "Show elements stored on the Exchange server" or whatever the link says in English

Thanks @DavidPostill :)

Bob

09:37

Hm. Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes looks like a fun game.

Journeyman Geek

09:53

hm, this is a super wierd failure mode.

(The old monitor works fine if I don't run it too long at a stretch. Almost feels like overheating)

Nate Kerkhofs