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Sathya

00:02

@nhinkle gratz

DMA57361

15:02

howdy all

I hate snow :(

KronoS

@DMA57361 why?

DMA57361

cos (a) it's here and (b) it's a pain in the arse

and (c) the UK (except maybe Scotland) can't handle it properly at all

KronoS

Lol

ya that would make sense...

I live in an area of no snow... so I kinda miss it

DMA57361

huh, well we get snow ~once or twice a year

usually it lasts ~3/4 days before it melts away

in which time the entire country grinds to a halt...

KronoS

lol.... wow...

my parents live in colorado... where it snows a lot...

nothing shuts down those towns...

Once went through a pass to get to their house... they shut it down to "cause an avalance"

DMA57361

15:08

nice

KronoS

I waited for about an hour, and then they let us through saying that they couldn't get it to work...

That was the fastest I've ever driven in snow before... :)

DMA57361

I bet

Really, that's the problem, because we (the country "we") don't get much it's hard to justify spending much money on it

KronoS

Ya... I bet if we got snow where I live now, everything would shut down... wouldn't know what to do

DMA57361

urgh

I need to close my curtains so I can't see it getting heavier :(

KronoS

sad day

oKtosiTe

15:12

@DMA57361 I think that's a large part of it. Here in Sweden I'm walking in 20cm now, but I'm still enjoying it. I have spiked tires on my bike, on cars they're mandatory, and the snowplows come by with a certain regularity.

DMA57361

exactly

almost no one in this country (me included) uses winter tyres, let alone anything spiked, most roads don't get cleared, etc

check the news: "Heavy snow and ice bring travel chaos across UK" bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12025538

oKtosiTe

@DMA57361 (And I live in the south.) :-)

DMA57361

and the quote "The snow is forecast to continue in many parts of the UK, with up to 25cm expected in some areas of England" - yes, only 25cm

oKtosiTe

:-)

DMA57361

least I got my weekly shop in this morning :D

digitxp

15:17

Did I seriously catch you all while you were still talking?

DMA57361

no, we'd just stopped... ;)

digitxp

f*

DMA57361

also, hello

digitxp

My 2tb hard drive came in :-)

DMA57361

spacious

digitxp

15:21

I told my mom that it was only $10 more than the 1TB which was only $20 more than the 500GB >:-)

What would be the best software to backup on this thing, you'd say, if I was planning to restore it from backup immediately after nuking the coputer?

DMA57361

erm, probably whatever software you want to run after the reinstall...?

Ivo Flipse

hellow @digitxp

DMA57361

oh wait, you mean what to use to make the backup?

Ivo Flipse

and off course @DMA57361 :)

DMA57361

ah, howdy @IvoFlipse

Ivo Flipse

15:23

restoring @digitxp? do you want to create images of you system?

I've found Windows Backup to be as straight forward as it can get

use SyncBack for files

to systematically let it backup certain document folders

for the rest, reinstalling Windows 7 is sometimes a blessing, if only to get rid of the bloat you regularly accumulate :P

like the 4 screenshot utility tools

digitxp

the bloat has come to the part where it's a 4 minute bootup, then 3 minutes of waiting for Chrome to start

heck, now it even got to the point where there's too much dust in the vid card

that

DMA57361

@digitxp good grief

digitxp

s why I want to back up

So it seems that Windows' built-in backup is good?

@DMA57361 It's a 4yo comp

DMA57361

still, that's not good

Ivo Flipse

well you don't want to backup your entire OS, because that's where the bloat will be

just use ninite to reinstall most software

and make sure you have all the serials ready if you use anything 'important' that requires it

but for a fresh OS install, windows backup is decent

it's very frigging large, but heck it's automatic

(windows 7 though!)

DMA57361

15:29

I just have everything important in users redirected to my D:

Ivo Flipse

I've come to realize that hardly anything is really important :P

DMA57361

indeed

so it redirects my documents and FF profile, not much else

Ivo Flipse

I'd used to backup bookmarks, settings and such

anything on my desktop or download folder

but everything is my download folder is probably crap

and I'll simply redownload them when I need it

because most installers are outdated after a month

and something that's important is safely tucked away in a document folder

oKtosiTe

@digitxp My computer is five years old. Still boots Windows 7 in under a minute. Have not reinstalled yet. Although my other install (with the Office and VMware installs) admittedly takes a good deal longer.

Basically I have one Windows for gaming and multimedia, and another for mucking around.

Ivo Flipse

it depends on how you use it I guess

oKtosiTe

15:36

Indeed.

Ivo Flipse

but I try out a lot of stuff, so that bloats it over time

but I don't mind to reinstall, as long as it's my choice to do so :P

oKtosiTe

Exactly. I usually only try stuff on virtual machines. :-)

Ivo Flipse

I hate having to restore my system, because I wrecked it

oKtosiTe

Mmm, time for my second coffee.

Ivo Flipse

well I'm not worried for spyware/malware, but like these useful screenshot tools, you can't really go around certain tools having to launch at startup

though hoeray for Soluto!

digitxp

15:38

Soluto didn't really help :(

oKtosiTe

lol

digitxp

What would be best if I want to look at my files on the drive without restoring?

Ivo Flipse

is the computer broken then?

oKtosiTe

?

digitxp

ish

the video card seems to be wonky

Ivo Flipse

15:49

but how does that hamper your from reclaiming your data?

digitxp

it doesn't

I'm just paranoid beyond reason

Sathya

@digitxp %appdata%

digitxp

I meant if I were to use a backup util

Sathya

@digitxp no clue... I don't .. backup (gasp)

oKtosiTe

@digitxp When it comes to wonky, reason has no limits.

:-D

Mokubai

15:55

@Sathya I don't back up either, I'd like to but 2TB takes a while and I've got nowhere to put it :)

There's no way I'm backing it up to DVDs

Sathya

@Mokubai those DVDs die faster than you can say hello

Ivo Flipse

you shouldn't use 2Tb as your OS drive :P

Mokubai

I would get an external drive to back up the wifes machine as well as mine, but the big drives they are not cheap

It's a 2 x 1TB raid array, so double trouble :D @IvoFlipse

Ivo Flipse

and you should forget about backing up movies and other large files

I would 'dislike' to loose my music, but I wouldn't die from it

losing the movies/tv-shows would be a minor annoyance

Mokubai

Aye, to be honest the stuff I actually care about backing up is likely to be maybe 20Gig

Ivo Flipse

16:02

but losing pictures and/or documents is a lot more important

and again, pictures can get out of control

Mokubai

All my games come off Steam, so that's an internet issue only and my internet is unlimited and fast so no worries there

Ivo Flipse

so there's a core set that I will backup several times for safety measures

the rest is just good faith in my hardware :P

Mokubai

As you say, films and media may be annoying to loose, but I wouldn't loose any sleep over them going

Ivo Flipse

it's not worth the effort trying to back it up :P

Mokubai

The wedding photos are the ones I care about most, and they're backed up on the wifes machine :D

Ivo Flipse

16:04

even worse ;P

Mokubai

lol

Ivo Flipse

then they're on Facebook by now

well off course that's actually safe from a data consistency standpoint

Mokubai

Argh, I keep remembering why I hate facebook

Ivo Flipse

face recognition? ;P

Mokubai

All the pointless status updates, it's almost as bad as twitter!

"I just done made me a sammich!"

"Your brother just got a pointless achievement in a PS3 game, why don't you buy the game and get the achievement too?"

digitxp

16:06

You should see what middle schooler's put on FB.

Half of them are flirters: "HAYHAHAHAH Great time at Taylor's house! <3<3<3<3"

Ivo Flipse

I like how my RSS readers can pull in Facebook shared material

digitxp

The other half are idiots.

Ivo Flipse

but if everything I 'like' was shared

nobody else's posts would show up on anyone's wall, as my feeds would bury them all :P

digitxp

Joe Abson likes Hi. Hi. Hi? Hi! on Clicklylikes.

I write a crap of philosphy on my wall and everyone likes it.

Nobody liked when I got my braces off way back when

Mokubai

I avoid the place like the plague, unless somone asks me in person why I haven't added them as a firend

KronoS

16:09

@Mokubai same here.... lol

I hate FB so much

Ivo Flipse

I simply ignore it most of the time

Mokubai

It's such a pointless time sinking place... Farmville? Why not go play a real game. Chat with friends? Why not go out and share a pint with them...

digitxp

what kind of projects are y'all working on?

Ivo Flipse

because I don't have any? Instead I hang out here and call @Sathya my buddy ;P

don't get me started @digitxp

Sathya

@IvoFlipse :P

Mokubai

16:12

I have to actually enter my password each time I go on it, even though I have the "Remember me" thing checked, the cookie must expire too soon (or is that not soon enough)

digitxp

If I don't find anything better to do over winterbreak I'm gonna invite ppl over and work on my nanowrimo

Mokubai

I've got a couple of possible worky projects, but I'm too lazy to actually work on them :(

Ivo Flipse

you should use Lastpas @Mokubai ;P

nanowrimo? As in iPod Nano as a wrist watch?

Sathya

LOL @IvoFlipse

Mokubai

The Firefox password thing remembers my facebook password (and not much else to be honest) I've got a password program on my mobile...

Sathya

16:14

@digitxp I'm on a paid vacation

Ivo Flipse

where @Sathya?

Mokubai

@Sathya for how long?

oKtosiTe

"NaNoWriMo is an annual (November) novel writing project that brings together professional and amateur writers from all over the world."

Sathya

@IvoFlipse my current job is a paid vacation :P

Ivo Flipse

you mean that you have to work in the States?

Sathya

16:16

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Bookmarked 2 mins ago by Sathya

oKtosiTe

@IvoFlipse Sorry, perhaps I'm creating noise.

Mokubai

I thought you lot spent all your time setting off fireworks and shooting your guns in the air @Sathya

Sathya

@IvoFlipse :P

Ivo Flipse

heck no @oKtosiTe, why would that be noise?

Sathya

@Mokubai part of the package deal :P

oKtosiTe

16:17

@IvoFlipse I didn't scroll up to confirm that that wasn't already established. :-)

digitxp

Still didn't

Mokubai

Like as you step off the plane at the airport "Here's your complementary handweapon and bullets, have a nice day sir." type thing? @Sathya

Sathya

@Mokubai more like when you check-in to the hotel :P @Mokubai

oKtosiTe

:-)

I can't say for sure whether you're joking. :-D

Ivo Flipse

hellow ladie

have you lost your ways @rchern?

rchern

16:28

Haha

is asking her first question on SU!

Ivo Flipse

oi! not about web apps I presume

rchern

How are there only 7 [tweetdeck] questions? I figured there'd be a bunch more. Am I missing something about it not being on-topic?

Ivo Flipse

it's just because SU doesn't really have a public that 'likes' social networks

rchern

Unacceptable. (:

Ivo Flipse

well I'd love to draw in a more casual crowd too, but that's not easy

I actually think that's the reason behind that meta question of yours

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Q: How to deal with "How do I do <X action> in <Y webapp>, where there is no way to perform X?

The No Answers section of the unanswered tab seems to have a lot of questions where people are trying to figure out how to perform a certain action in a given webapp. If this can't be done, and there's no easy workaround, the question often sits unanswered. Generally no one will be certain enou...

oKtosiTe

16:31

@IvoFlipse Indeed, I go out of my way to e-mail webmasters that prefer contact by twitter.

Ivo Flipse

are you aiming at Jeff here? ;P

rchern

Hehe, my Tweetdeck question is pretty much this format I fear ^^^^. ):

KronoS

tomsguide.com/us/…

Wow a dual core cell phone...

Mokubai

Most smartphone cellphones are technically dual-core these days

One slow core to do the phone and data related stuff and a fast application processor for the front end

But that looks a very sweet phone

KronoS

@Mokubai i didn't know that... but yes it does

Mokubai

16:41

The "radio" core is fully independant of the main core and nothing but the radio can run on it so it's more of a coprocessor than another core so I guess to call it dual core could be wrong...

DMA57361

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yttttttttttttttttttttttt

rchern

crosses fingers

@IvoFlipse Holy crap, an actual user knows about our meta? q:

Sathya

@rchern fancy seeing you here

DMA57361

opps, ignore those

KronoS

I was actually thinking the same thing lol

rchern

16:43

@Sathya I've just asked my first SU question. \o/

Which will likely die a slow, painful, unanswered death.

KronoS

WHAT!? Wow... congrats! @rchern

Sathya

So I see

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Q: Move backwards through Profile/Conversation column history in Tweetdeck?

In Tweetdeck, you can view conversations by clicking the in reply to portion of tweets. This opens up a column in overlay. This overlay column is also used when you open up a user's profile. The column can be closed by clicking the X in the upper right of the column or by pressing Esc. Let's ...

tweetdeck

fires up tweetdeck

Ivo Flipse

often they are also dual processor, where they have a dedicated gpu (which they previously hadn't) @Mokubai

oKtosiTe

@DMA57361 Was that you dozing off on your keyboard?

KronoS

If anybody know everything about tweetdeck/twitter it's gotta be @Sathya... he's constantly tweeting...

and getting free stuff b/c of all the tweets

Sathya

16:45

heh :P

Ivo Flipse

sadly @rchern you confirm Jeff's answer with your question :P

your question is far too obscure!

Sathya

I actually use my own client :p

well dabr, actually, on my domain anyways

KronoS

@IvoFlipse did you see today's one cool thing?

onecoolthingaday.com/today/2010/12/18/flash-projection.html

rchern

I go through Twitter spurts. I'll use it for awhile, then pretty much just forget about it. Rinse and repeat.

I'm somewhere in a spurt now. (;

Sathya

@rchern I'm always in spurts. I'm surprised @IvoFlipse & @KronoS hasn't unfollowed me / blocked me yet :p

KronoS

16:52

@Sathya you're actually not as bad as lifehacker and howtogeek

but getting there

:P

rchern

What's your id?

Sathya

@rchern @SathyaBhat

@KronoS :P I've cut down :P

KronoS

@rchern beware you may regret ;)

Sathya

rchern

oy

Sathya

16:54

Yay! New follower request!

KronoS

@Sathya oh that's so terrible....

I don't understand why people hate justin beiber so much... I mean his music sucks... but why all the hate?

Sathya

even better

DMA57361

17:21

@oKtosiTe no, my daughter was climbing to look at the snow out the window...

Sathya

17:54

Hello, Nexus

Ivo Flipse

did you buy it?

well guess I'll just have to wait for a decent custom rom for my HTC Desire HD

Sathya

@IvoFlipse yep

Ivo Flipse

I hate the world

Sathya

hehe

Ivo Flipse

18:11

joystiq.com/2010/12/16/…

I so want this kind of hardware

though kind of lame that it only does the face and not entire body mition

and I wonder what the accuracy would be when you look at the whole body, sub millimeter?

rchern

CRAAAAAAAAAAP

another blue screen

> Your computer was unable to start, Startup Repair is checking your system for problems...

Ivo Flipse

►

how did you manage to do that?

rchern

|:

Mokubai

@rchern any sign as to what caused it, or is it just another random unidentifiable Windows crash?

Ivo Flipse

normally there's a crash report dumped unless you turned it off

rchern

18:25

it rebooted auto, must have that setting on

heh Startup Repair cannot repair this computer automatically

hmm, it did boot up ok this time though

> Welcome

Corrupt Google Chrome profile

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.48
Locale ID: 1033

Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 19
BCP1: 0000000000000021
BCP2: FFFFF900C2E50000
BCP3: 0000000000001030
BCP4: 0002B800000DDC00
OS Version: 6_1_7600
Service Pack: 0_0
Product: 256_1

Files that help describe the problem:
C:\Windows\Minidump\121810-17830-01.dmp
C:\Users\Rebecca\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-51386-0.sysdata.xml

Read our privacy statement online:
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=104288&clcid=0x0409

What have I done to you computer gods?!

Ivo Flipse

you grieved us by asking social network app-questions on SU

rchern

Heh.

And I realize I know nothing about Chrome profiles.

Ivo Flipse

18:45

Holy smokes I love science! fireflyeco.com/2010/12/growing-trees-in-the-desert

rchern

Nothing to restore, looking at the files in my appdata dir, they've been wiped.

Ivo Flipse

what have you lost?

rchern

All my extensions

My extensions folder in appdata is empty.

Ivo Flipse

haven't you set up sync for those things?

rchern

No. I don't want things synced home/work and I have 1 computer at home. Why sync?

Ivo Flipse

18:56

because it also backs up

simply don't use sync at work

only use it at home

Sathya

@rchern you don't use the same extensions at home/work ?

rchern

Some of them yes, some of them no.

I've got everything back but the extensions directory.

Mokubai

@rchern using Windows 7?

If so, then right click the parent folder and try "Restore previous versions" , may be that a copy was stored...

rchern

I did that.

Restored it.

Opened Chrome, and watched the folder empty again.

Mokubai

Wow, that is weird

I love when programs correct that kind of thing for you, like a teacher scribbling over your essay saying "That's all wrong now do it again and do it properly this time!"

tombull89

19:07

when I see members with 3k+, 13k+ 17k+ and 23k+ rep having small niggly problems suddenly I don't feel so bad and such a moron.

Ivo Flipse

you shouldn't @tombull89, everybody's is a n00b at something

Wil

@DMA57361 You will be surprised.... it is terrible in some places (Working way through chat!*)

tombull89

then again 9 months as first-line support in a school i've learned things I would have if i was in, say, an office. Still, some teachers (and kids) know me to know everything about computers ever, and despite me being 21 then can't understand why it's not possible :P

rchern

Alright, Chrome is the only thing so far that was corrupt and got that restored. Better not get another blue screen. >_<

Ivo Flipse

I learned a lot working in an office for 2 years @tombull89, but I spend a lot of those 2 years here and stuck in Google Reader :P

Mokubai

19:14

@tombull89 the only person that is a moron is the person who is unwilling to learn

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Ivo Flipse

Amen!

tombull89

@Ivo Flipse, that's more than my entire working IT career. And I'm certainly willing to learn, just not really able to. I expect you know how hard it is to get training for IT guys, even so more in schools. I'd like to do a CCNA but paying £2000+ out of my own pocket is a lot.

o.O

I thought that clipp thing was a joke...

*clippy

Wil

You can always just read books and pay about £70 to sit an exam...

Ivo Flipse

you can always just start your own business and waste time reading books, like @Wil recommends

Wil

... I think I need to read the history and not butt in to conversations!...

tombull89

19:20

better go across to SE Start-ups :P

Mokubai

@Wil now where would the fun be in that? ;)

tombull89

still, that's more snow that I got (about 2cm here)

Wil

If I need to read further back - sorry.... If you were to pay around 2k and go on a course - or pay £70, it doesn't matter... it will most likely not help you get a job... I don't mean to be rude or sound rubbish but they are almost pointless.

I have interviewed loads on a personal level and sometimes when taking on new clients (not really an interview - more like meeting here), and certification hardly ever comes up - they are much more interested in work history and other clients you have worked for... Certifications can mean the difference in a tie breaker with other people, but it certainly is meaningless on its own

It is horrible to try and break in... almost catch 22 (unless willing to start right at the bottom) - people don't want to employ you unless you have a track record of working for others... the best advise I or anyone can say is to try to socialise more... nearly all of my big contracts have come from friends of friends... do a good job and people remember and recommend you.

Ivo Flipse

yeah networking can get you a long way

tombull89

i'm well aware of the catch 22, not being able to get a job and expereince because I'm not expereinced enough. I do try to network but these things take time.

so I'm working as front-line support in a school doing password resets and printer cartridges, I've been asked to take care of the VLE so after 6 months they're placing some faith in me. What next though?

Ivo Flipse

19:29

what's your formal education?

rchern

Connections are everything.

tombull89

nil. well, basical level PC servicing courses, ICT users certficate from my apprenticeship

Ivo Flipse

well you could simply as your superiors what your options for growth are

are there any senior spots that you could promote into and/or is there anything you can do to become eligible for such positions

tombull89

he's fully aware of the need for growth and training and is more than happy to help but we moved into a new school in september and are still trying to get to grips with all the systems.

Ivo Flipse

(off course I have no idea what kind of school it is)

tombull89

19:34

it's a 800 pupil secondary, small team, me (junior technican) senior technician and my line manager (network manager)

Ivo Flipse

no, no, I'm implying that they perhaps currently don't give you any sys admin tasks, because they don't know if you can perform these tasks

but if you make it clear you do want to learn these tasks

well, then they can help you learn it perhaps

tombull89

I think my line manager is more than happy to let me at higher-level tasks but as we're getting used to the new system he wants control so if something goes wrong then he's liable.

Ivo Flipse

very wise of him

tombull89

although there is the what-happens-if-he-gets-hit-by-a-bus scenario...

Ivo Flipse

hehe, planning to become a bus driver eh?

tombull89

19:40

not round my parts :P

still the benefits of working in a school are two weeks off for christmas :P we'll be drawing up an action plan when we go back...and now I have the

results of a large forest fire to go clean up...thanks for the advice.

in minecraft, that is ;)

Filip Ekberg

19:56

@Sathya, Do I need to change the multiplier too? What if I get error on only one core when running prime95, does that mean I can't use that fsb at all?

Sathya

20:24

@FilipEkberg which processor ?

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