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Mokubai

21:00

@Sathya Valve seem to be able to do no wrong as far as I'm concerned, lots of awesome games.

Sathya

@Mokubai yeah, DoTA 2's coming soon. Half Life fans are crying though

David

Did you guys play L4D2?

Sathya

Portal 2's also in the horizon

Mokubai

I want Episode 3!

Sathya

@David just purchased L4d2 last week for $5 :-D

David

21:01

L4D3?

Mokubai

though the trailers for Portal 2 look great

David

L4D2 Was Awesome!!!

Sathya

@David HL2 EP3

Mokubai

@David yeah, L4D2 is the world greatest griefing engine :D

David

Never played them...

I would love to play more PC games, but I love the offline coop on the PS3 so I can do FPS with my gf...

Mokubai

21:02

@Sathya $5? I paid full price :(

David

I got it as a xmas gift last year. :D

Sathya

@Mokubai Christmas sale :-D

David

Steam has awesome offers...

Did you get it from Steam @Sathya?

Sathya

@David yep..

Mokubai

@David I've managed to populate my Steam game list quite respectably from their semi-regular offers

Sathya

21:04

steamcommunity.com/id/sathyabhat

David

I wish I wasn't so cheap... I save every penny I get. I have a vision of owning my own house at the age of like 35.

Sathya

@Mokubai Ditto..

David

Not the bank. Me :D

Mokubai

@David I have that vision, not going to happen for me though

David

My gas bills for drive back and forth to work is around $200/week

That's just to gas for work and back, nothing else.

Mokubai

21:06

Yowza!

Sathya

ouch.

David

I have to drive 2 hours round trip...

Mokubai

Seriously, yikes!

David

I would like to move out, but then it would cost more to do that. So I torcher my self and pay $200 a month for rent with my parents.

Mokubai

I'm up to £30 a week just for work, and that's with our insane prices...

David

21:08

I would love to spend only 40 USD

It cost me 48 USD just to fill up my truck for the week, which I did today.

Mokubai

Google claims 48USD = ~31GBP, if only the car was that cheap to fill up

David

How much does it cost you to fill up?

Mokubai

Would cost about 75-80 USD to fill the tank

David

0-o

Mokubai

As the google currency converter goes

David

21:16

Holy crap...

Mokubai

Aye, :/

The prices have only gone up lately...

David

That's horrible...

Same over here... It cost me about $35 a month ago. I really hate that it costs that much over there. It's highway robbery.

Mokubai

Not much we can do though, we've already had a few riots about it over the last couple of years, the prices wen down for a month or two, then sailed back up even faster...

David

Something will happen eventually. Electric cars will revolutionize, we will run on another fuel source (that doesn't stink), or something else... (My theory)

Maybe not in our life time, but sometime. (hopefully)

Zzz... Zzz... Zzz...

Mokubai

21:33

I'm hoping that fuel cells or electric cars catch on properly soon

@David Sleepy? Isn't it mid afternoon there or something?

Darn computers.

Sathya

@Mokubai precisely why it's sleepy :P

Ivo Flipse

every gamer knows that Dance Central for Kinect is the best game at this moment :P

and stop moaning about gas prices in the US, you guys pay 1/3rd of what we have to pay

David

Yeah it's mid-after noon, but boredom affects awakeness...

@IvoFlipse yeah... but the gas prices used to be cheaper. Like 1.50 USB per gallon.

Ivo Flipse

and off course you lot should check out Gaming.Stackexchange.com

Mokubai

@IvoFlipse Dance Central looks worrying

;)

David

21:38

Is there a list of all SE sites?

Ivo Flipse

we pay 7.96692905 dollar/gallon

Stackexchange.com ;)

David

0_0 @IvoFlipse that sucks...

Ivo Flipse

1.6 euro/liter so go figure

David

Aren't you payed more though?

Mokubai

uhhh, don't know about gallons, but £1.30 a litre here at the moment

Ivo Flipse

21:39

and we pay more taxes on the cars too

that's about the same @Mokubai

David

... well that's a ripoff

Mokubai

ahhh, fair enough, where are you @IvoFlipse ?

David

Are there more people from euro on here than US?

Ivo Flipse

Netherlands @Mokubai

depends on the time of day @David

David

good point @IvoFlipse

Ivo Flipse

21:42

I'm not a mod for nothing ;P

Sathya

@IvoFlipse about $1.4 /litre in India

nhinkle

these stats are for stack overflow users, not superuser, but still interesting

Stack Overflow Blog: Stack Overflow 2010 Analytics

Posted by Jeff Atwood on December 15th, 2010

As we approach the end of the year, I thought I’d roll up some statistics that people occasionally ask about.

As a baseline — per Quantcast, the Stack Exchange Network is ranked #364 in overall USA network traffic, and Stack Overflow itself is ranked #598.

These numbers are from Google Analytics for the period of January 1, 2010 to December 14, 2010.

Compared to last year’s numbers, the trend here is basic globalization 101 — more and more traffic from outside the USA over time, where the US dropped from 36% to just 30% of the total in a single year. The top 10 countries only account for 66% of traffic overall, down from 71% last year. …

specifically the map, with regards to the question about where people are from

Sathya

@nhinkle check this hewgill.com/~greg/stackoverflow/super_user

@nhinkle not a big surprise there

Ivo Flipse

I can see some analytics on SU, but not where the users come from

nhinkle

that's neat, but is there any location data?

Mokubai

21:44

@IvoFlipse used to have a couple of good World of Warcraft buddies from the Netherlands :)

nhinkle

some people list it in their profile, but a lot don't, the google analytics data shows everyone since it's based on GeoIP, regardless of what they say in their profile

Ivo Flipse

indeed @nhinkle, but no we can't see that

David

Thanks for the info @nhinkle

Ivo Flipse

I like that this chatroom is getting some fresh blood in lately

David

Like me @IvoFlipse

Ivo Flipse

21:46

and some of the regulars are starting to drop in (points @nhinkle)

well you are very fresh ;)

David

That's what she said...

Sathya

she ?

David

nvm

Ivo Flipse

his mommy? :P

Sathya

LOL

David

21:47

That might be an American joke.

nhinkle

Haha, thanks @IvoFlipse

David

It's mainly from The Office. A TV Show in the US

Mokubai

I was curious what went on in here, seems a nice place...

Sathya

@David isn't office a Brit show ?

nhinkle

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=that's+what+she+said

Mokubai

21:49

Though I have to ask, is this supposed to be a casual meeting place for Superuser people, or are we supposed to actually be discussing Superuser?

Ivo Flipse

what the hell, why can't I download MSE 2.0?

hehe, well have a look at the chatlogs and see for yourself

Sathya

@Mokubai both :P

nhinkle

@Mokubai i think it's sort of both. some of the chat rooms (like vote to close and ask a moderator) are for discussing SU, some are for just, well, chatting

David

@Sathya, it used to be till the US regurgitated it.

Ivo Flipse

it's either about SU, spammers or pressure measurements with dogs

Sathya

21:50

though it's former 99% of time

@IvoFlipse hehe

nhinkle

so now i'm curious where people are from based on the location data in their profile

is anyone any good at composing queries on data.stackexchange?

Ivo Flipse

your best bet is just asking Jeff

Mokubai

@IvoFlipse "pressure measurements with dogs" ????

Sathya

@nhinkle fire away

Ivo Flipse

though I think it is possible to get it from the profiles

heck yeah @Mokubai

201

Q: Peak detection in a 2D array

I'm helping a veterinary clinic measuring pressure under a dogs paw. I use Python for my data analysis and now I'm stuck trying to divide the paws into (anatomical) subregions. I made a 2D array of each paw, that consists of the maximal values for each sensor that has been loaded by the paw over...

nhinkle

21:52

@IvoFlipse that's a good point... since he could just upload the map from google analytics

Ivo Flipse

I think he wouldn't really mind too either

what the heck is that @Sathya :P

Sathya

Fake Programmers

The room for elite Super Users who realize they know nothing a...

Mokubai

@IvoFlipse Wow, that is pretty awesome

Sathya

@IvoFlipse this ^

Ivo Flipse

oh and as you can see: chat is awesome for shameless self-plugs, scoring upvote streaks and sympathy votes

nhinkle

21:54

@IvoFlipse is that a valid use?

Ivo Flipse

why wouldn't it be?

nhinkle

well in that case

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A: Is there any benefit from installing Windows 7 64-bit when you have less than 4GB or RAM?

The other answers here cover the pros and cons fairly well, but consider this: if you think you'll be upgrading your memory in a year anyhow, and will be upgrading it to 4GB or more, then you might as well install Windows 7 x64 now, so that you don't have to reinstall later. It is not possible t...

1 more vote on the accepted answer and 1 more vote on mine, and i get a gold badge

for outscoring the accepted answer of over 10 by 2x

Sathya

@nhinkle you should have a new badge soon

Ivo Flipse

too bad, I already upvoted that one long ago

Mokubai

@nhinkle Ah, I'd already upvoted you some time ago :P

nhinkle

21:56

haha, thanks :)
it hasn't showed up yet, but it seems like sometimes it takes a while for badges to appear

Sathya

@nhinkle well some of the badges are run as a batch process, so it should take some time

nhinkle

is there any sort of documentation on what commands are available for queries on data.stackexchange?

i'm looking at existing ones to try to figure it out, but it's been a while since i've worked with SQL

Ivo Flipse

you can ask it on MSO ;-)

Sathya

@nhinkle all standard SQL commands are supported

Ivo Flipse

and ask where the meta.data.stackexchange.com is

David

22:02

I outta here peoples'

Have a good weekend everyone!

nhinkle

@Sathya except for delete commands i bet :P

Mokubai

@nhinkle or "drop table" commands...

Sathya

@nhinkle heh, yep

here's some of my queries

data.stackexchange.com/users/2472

Ivo Flipse

later @David :)

auch: data.stackexchange.com/superuser/s/502/…

nhinkle

0

Q: 2010 analytics for all Stack Exchange sites

The 2010 analytics data posted on the Stack Overflow blog recently were very interesting. It would be nice however to see this sort of data for all of the Stack Exchange sites, or at least for all of the original trilogy. Would it be possible for the Stack Exchange team to provide this informatio...

feature-request data-analysis analytics

vote it up, folks!

Sathya

22:10

@nhinkle did you have a look at this:

yesterday, by Jeff Atwood

http://superuser.com/review

nhinkle

interesting, hadn't seen that before

Ivo Flipse

it's fresh

nhinkle

looks potentially useful. i notice it has a "custom filters" thing on the right - is there a way for us to make other filters, or do we only get to use the ones already set up?

Sathya

@nhinkle you can apply text filters

Ivo Flipse

if you have suggestions head over to MSO

Sathya

22:13

as I've mentioned here:

3

Q: Feedback on /review route

So, Jeff left a message about the new review routes over at Chat, and I took it for a spin. Looks like the /review seems to be a subset of 2 of the 10k tools links - ie, New posts by new users & New answers by New users. The review route is lot easier/frictionless than the 10k tools to go th...

discussion review-route

URL: http://superuser.com/review/first-answers?page=1&pagesize=50&filter=all& textfilter=thank &customsort=shortest

oo that custom filter wasn't there when I checked, it was there only in parameters

Ivo Flipse

voila, my loyal servant comes to my aid as usual :)

holy smoke, Gilles is a voting monster

1800 upvotes in 170 days or so

Sathya

@IvoFlipse Gilles is a rep-scoring monster ;)

Ivo Flipse

superuser.com/admin/users/4377/reprecalc

oi! you lost some rep there @Sathya!

:O

I lost 800 rep in a recalc

Sathya

lost about 20 rep

hmm

Ivo Flipse

> Recalculated rep for User.Id = 1548 -> old rep = 14119, new rep = 13248

Sathya

22:21

10 was because I deleted a upvoted

answer

today

@IvoFlipse you do know that "normal" folks can do a rep recalc themselves ?

I did so couple days ago

@IvoFlipse woo 800 o_0

Ivo Flipse

ah, figures

ah well, not that it matters

hello @TomWij

TomWij

hi, I've been so active the last 24 hours

Ivo Flipse

active on what?

TomWij

starcraft II, 5 hours school project, 5 hours party, short sleep, 5 hoursschool project, 1 hour dancing, starcraft II xD

Ivo Flipse

lol

Sathya

22:26

@TomWij lol

TomWij

Not to forget the annoying bus transport that drives slower or doesn't show up because of snow.

Ivo Flipse

I had to drive my way to that crappy country of yours, luckily the roads were pretty clean

Joe Philllips

hey guys. I'm fixing my dads laptop and i'm obviously online right now. Somehow he got IE9 beta installed but the damn browser doesnt think its online

im in chrome right now

any ideas?

nhinkle

messed up proxy settings?

i'd try restoring windows firewall and internet options to their default settings

TomWij

Dropbox hits 1.0, adds features.

Ivo Flipse

22:30

if it's your dads laptop, I'd reinstall Windows ;)

Joe Philllips

@Ivo yeah I know.. haha. I dont have time for that

Ivo Flipse

but your on his home network?

Joe Philllips

hmmm. Resetting ie9 settings apparently fixed it

@IvoFlipse yeah, he uses a 3g card of some sort which I wasnt familiar with. Made the problem a little more difficult to solve

TomWij

@JoePhilllips: fixitcenter.support.microsoft.com/Portal

Ah, it's fixed already, nice.

Joe Philllips

@TomWij Cool. Didnt know that existed

nhinkle

22:33

@TomWij, I downloaded the new dropbox release and installed it already

so far, haven't seen much noteworthy difference, other than the exclude folder feature

Ivo Flipse

I don't know if I dare to upgrade

nhinkle

i wish they would set it up so you could have your dropbox be a windows 7 library. then you could include folders from wherever and have them be in your dropbox. they have a support ticket for it saying it's "in the works"

@IvoFlipse, why not?

Ivo Flipse

does anyone know what the heck is going on, when new windows don't show up in front of others? (Chrome being the offender here)

why risk breaking it? I heard the previous version gave some trouble

nhinkle

is the window way of to the side?

since i use dual monitors a lot, sometimes a new window will try to create itself off the edge of the real screen

Ivo Flipse

no, Chrome is maximized, all apps can be visible, I just need to minimize Chrome

nhinkle

22:35

huh, weird. no idea

my stomach informs me it's lunchtime

see you all another time

Ivo Flipse

hehe, for me it's getting bed time

Sathya

@IvoFlipse selective sync is a great reason to worth upgrading to v1

Ivo Flipse

this computer can handle everything :P

Sathya

although I've been using SS since the .7 version :P

@nhinkle see ya

TomWij

my stomach informs me that I drunk too much at the party, but that's not true... :-(

Ivo Flipse

22:38

I always disagree with my stomach, when it tells me I had enough, I always eat one cookie more!

TomWij

:D

Joe Philllips

one more thing. For some reason in explorer the cursor icon is really big instead of a nice thin line

its not the mouse cursor, its the typing cursor

Ivo Flipse

he must have tweaked the settings

Joe Philllips

im not even sure what setting that is though

Ivo Flipse

what windows version is it?

Open the Control Panel.
In the Control Panel double-click the Mouse icon.
In the Mouse Properties click the Pointers tab.
In Pointers click the down arrow on the Scheme and select another cursor scheme you wish to use.

hmmm no that's not right, that's the arrow thing I think hmmm

oh wait, under Windows 7 it is in the Pointer menu, he might have changed the theme

Joe Philllips

22:45

vista

Ivo Flipse

must be the same

Joe Philllips

found it

mydigitallife.info/2007/02/19/…

thanks guys. Have a good night

Ivo Flipse

now that's a silly setting to change :P

he must have liked the 'improved' visibility

KronoS

23:04

@IvoFlipse I just went to Fake Programmers... and it's frozen!!!!!

anything to undo that?

I actually don't need it at the moment, but may in the future

Ivo Flipse

is it? hmm

KronoS

Yep :(

Ivo Flipse

doesn't look like that to me

Ivo Flipse

23:23

►

nhinkle

Hey, the badge went through! Yay, my first gold badge

superuser.com/badges/37/populist?userid=20088

thanks guys

Ivo Flipse

gratz @nhinkle, now I can downvote the accepted answer ;P

nhinkle

haha. i'm not, but suit yourself. i think the accepted answer was reasonable though

Ivo Flipse

chucknorrisfacts.com/chuck-norris-top-50-facts

IDWMaster

I'm helping one of my clients partition their HDD using GParted, and it seems to be taking over an hour to shrink a partition from 230GB to 106GB. Is that normal?

nhinkle

23:36

@IvoFlipse
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/9134/jon-skeet-facts

Ivo Flipse

was the disk empty?

I know, but Chuck Norris in itself is hilarious

IDWMaster

Of course not; I'm shrinking a partition, which infers that there was data on the disk

It's doing the 'real resize' now

nhinkle

haha i know. chuck norries reminds me of jon skeet now, since i saw that thread

brb

Ivo Flipse

> Jon Skeet is immutable. If something's going to change, it's going to have to be the rest of the universe.

then if the files are very large it might indeed take very long

because it's fragmented and doesn't have enough spare room to squeeze the files in

IDWMaster

The partition did seem to be very fragmented

Also; it's a laptop with an AMD processor; which is quite slow

Does Ubuntu hibernate/suspend by default if left unattended for too long?

Is it safe to leave the computer?

Ivo Flipse

23:39

hmmm, is it a laptop? I'm not so familiar with power settings under Ubuntu

but heck, what could go wrong? :P

anyway, time for bed!

IDWMaster

Lots of things could go wrong if partitioning fails

Ivo Flipse

uhoh, good luck!

IDWMaster

23:54

Resize completed successfully!

Finally

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