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Bob

01:24

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allquixotic

01:46

@Bob nice. locally?

Bob

02:11

@allquixotic gitlab server on ovh

I was actually expecting faster than that.

see deleted message for ssl test :P

everything but IE6/XP, gets A

mostly default config too

allquixotic

02:37

ahh

not sure why it doesn't get an A+ from HSTS

Bob

@allquixotic might be the SHA1 intermediate

but I'll deal with that when I renew the cert in a couple weeks

because startssl won't let me renew now

allquixotic

ah

I revoked my old cert and bought a new one for my main domain

Bob

@allquixotic because you have free revocations :P

allquixotic

@Bob No I don't.

Revocations cost $50 for me.

Bob

o.O really?

allquixotic

02:44

Yes.

Bob

I thought class2 included free revoc

wow

> Revocations carry a handling fee, except for Extended Validation SSL Certificates.

ah

@allquixotic wait, $50?

...that's not on their fees list

though that makes me think it's really not worth getting class2

> Revocation Handling Fee - US$ 24.90

Joe Stavitsky

anyone ever encounter a situation like this?
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2004/11/10/255346.aspx

Psycogeek

03:14

some of this might help superuser.com/questions/575716/… is the problem instllation of .net packages? a registry entry not coreleating with install, broken install downloads that half work. uninstalls that do not fully uninstall, therefore re-install doesnt work?

for any SDKs for programming i know nothing. but for the user packages, some of the same thing applies when having problems with GPU driver messes. Find a sweeper/cleaner that shreds the whole things out . possibly do a SFC /scannow of the rest of the system file integrity. then find a Clean Valid Real and whole package from the original proper source to reinstall. avoiding "we got your dll" sites, "fix your pc" crap sites, and automated install crap programs.

XKCD

04:05

Since people rarely try to cut down cell phone towers, after millions of years, as cell phone towers have gotten more treelike, trees have started growing fake cell phone tower attachments and shiny gray bark to protect themselves. This is a standard textbook example of convergent evolution.

Journeyman Geek

rofl at the alt text

Psycogeek

04:59

wee bit of superuser.com/questions/962865/… <--spam

Anmol Raghuvanshi

05:31

morning

Journeyman Geek

05:56

afternooooon

Anmol Raghuvanshi

o/

marcusdoesstuff

08:29

morning!

none of this 'afternoon' rubbish. what side of the planet do you think you live on?!

Journeyman Geek

One that's clearly not living in the past. Or too far in the future

Bob

@marcusdoesstuff evenin'

Boris_yo

When buying used digital camera what do you check before handing cash?

Outputs like HDMI, USB?

Maybe I should ask guy to take a shot and show me on computer?

Should I ask for receipt?

marcusdoesstuff

08:45

depends if you're buying on the street or not i guess.

and if there's a chance of ever seeing him again.

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: reviews and manuals are much more useful for that

marcusdoesstuff

if you're buying on ebay then it has to be sold as described, right? then you have paypal insurance I think?

Journeyman Geek

I think the stuff you need to consider are more functional and physical defects (or freedom from them)

Boris_yo

I buy in person.

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: turn it on, take a photo ;p

marcusdoesstuff

08:48

that's going to be about your best.

Journeyman Geek

TLR... very oldschool? ;p

marcusdoesstuff

i've bought a fairly expensive lens and also a film TLR in person. both were in perfect visible condition and had obviously never been dropped so it was fine. i'd also consider the person selling too... these two people were fine and also had decent ebay ratings too, they just happened to live locally.

heh... i met lens man in a bank... but TLR man in a workplace carpark, after it was dark.

marcusdoesstuff

09:18

@Bob gist.github.com/marcusdoesstuff/17cbd36b88f05b4b6d80 Seemed to get this working yesterday. Regex has been polished a bit more too. I was struggling to figure out how to do that with the multi-lines but I realised I could do what I wanted with the line.strip.

Bob

@marcusdoesstuff hm... I'm not sure that's the best idea (because now you've imposed a very specific restriction on all matchers) but if that works for you with your data set, great! :P

marcusdoesstuff

@Bob You can probably see that I was trying to remove double apostrophes. This actually only appears on one precautionary statement. I think it's very unlikely to break but I'd be interested in safer ways of doing this.

Bob

@marcusdoesstuff Hm... without making the parser significantly more complex, this might be for the best :P

marcusdoesstuff

hah okay

Bob

As long as your input data is consistent.

marcusdoesstuff

09:29

we'll see. :P

I'm sure someone said, when I was first starting this, something along the lines of: Data is always consistent until it isn't.

Considering that it's from SDS software, I'd say it's fairly unlikely.

Got 700 files downloaded now... Another 500 or so to go. I managed to get my download macro to fetch three per minute but the web database I'm downloading from seems to enter snail mode after I do this for a while (around 100 downloads) and doesn't recover for an hour or two so I have to fit in when it's unlikely to disrupt the lab. Absolute pain in the ass.

HackToHell

11:37

Is the Oneplus One still a good bet ?

Oliver Salzburg

12:58

@HackToHell I think it sucks. Based on using it as my primary phone for months

HackToHell

@OliverSalzburg o0

Oliver Salzburg

Overall, not a horrible phone, but the bugs are so annoying

HackToHell

Anyway it's 2x my budget :'(

I didn't even notice the price

Oliver Salzburg

I'll definitely go back to Nexus after this one

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: alas. I was considering the one plus two for my next phone

Reviews are wierdly mixed

Nice

Tamil language troll

DragonLord

13:09

Google Translate couldn't identify the language.

Still some flags left from that last batch.

HackToHell

arstechnica.com/security/2015/08/…

DragonLord

Writing beyond the data region of the program and into code, hence altering the program to execute arbitrary code.

Isn't that how buffer overflow exploits work?

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord: Its my native language. I fairly quickly recognised the words for poop.

HackToHell

lol where ?

DragonLord

@HackToHell You'd need 10k to see it.

Oliver Salzburg

13:20

@JourneymanGeek Based on my experience with the One, I'd stay away from the Two as well :P

Especially because you're guaranteed that whatever is broken with the Two, will forever stay broken

DragonLord

Four delete votes left.

I'm both flagging non-answer posts and voting to delete as appropriate.

HackToHell

@OliverSalzburg Does any company fix bugs ?

All the damn phones are buggy

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: I've been pretty happy with my moto G

and its fairly non buggy, and gets timely updates

qroberts

What's your guys preference for a network tone generator and probe? I'm looking at the IntelliTone Pro 200 flukenetworks.com/datacom-cabling/copper-testing/…

Journeyman Geek

@qroberts: I can't think of anyone here who has one

DragonLord

13:30

Google Inc. must be glad they are now using abc.xyz instead of a .com domain ;-) — Arjan 6 mins ago

Alphabet Inc.

Alphabet Inc. is a holding company intended to become a conglomerate that will directly own several companies that were owned by or tied to Google, including Google itself. The company will be based in California and be headed by Google's co-founders, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, with Page serving as CEO and Brin as President. Alphabet's portfolio will expand through several industries, including technology, life sciences, investment capital, and research. Some of its subsidiaries will include Google, Calico, Google Ventures, Google Capital, Google X, and Nest Labs. Following the restructuring Page...

Google has become a sprawling mess.

This really shouldn't be necessary.

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek Friend has a Moto G gen 3

qroberts

@JourneymanGeek: I might get this one, it's a bit cheaper and does the same thing amazon.com/Fluke-Networks-26000900-Pro3000-Generator/dp/…

HackToHell

it's pretty nice

DragonLord

I was thinking about Niantic Labs, developer of Ingress. Making it part of Alphabet would make a lot of sense.

Perhaps this corporate restructuring would help us make sense of the numerous different businesses associated with Google...

abc.xyz

Google really is a sprawling mess. There's too much associated with the name when consumers just expect it to mean the world's leading search engine.

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: I have the original one

I love it other than one major flaw

DragonLord

13:37

Perhaps that will allow Niantic to stretch its legs a bit and go beyond Ingress.

Journeyman Geek

(8gb is not enough space these days)

DragonLord

Come to think of it, setting up a new holding company is a great idea.

Oliver Salzburg

@HackToHell Well, the experience was a lot better with a phone made by Google IMHO

But, yeah, you are sadly right, all phones suck and the companies who make them suck even harder

And, I guess, I'm the biggest sucker for buying their crap

allquixotic

@Bob ah, that must be how much I paid. I totally forgot :P

marcusdoesstuff

14:02

Why might /n match on regex101.com but not in python?

\n *

Hmm... Maybe because I'm putting regex where I'm not supposed to.

@Bob changing that line.strip did mess it up in the end. I started getting duplicate results. Dunno why I didn't notice at the time.

DragonLord

15:24

Google has my correct location, but Cortana/Bing does not.

No GPS means wrong or inexact location (IP geolocation can only do so much).

Cortana is giving me weather for the wrong location as a result.

If I search my location on Google in a private browsing window, I get the wrong location.

IP geolocation isn't all that accurate, and there's not much I can do about it.

allquixotic

15:45

@DragonLord It thinks my dedicated server is in Indonesia -_-

not even the same continent

IP geo is horrifically bad.

Canadian Luke

16:16

@OliverSalzburg @JourneymanGeek My OnePlus One has been great! The main reason I'm not getting the Two is because I don't know OxygenOS's stability yet, and I don't want to switch to USB-C yet

Prasanna

16:30

@Davidpostill Hi

DragonLord

16:41

@DavidPostill?

Don't think he frequents chat.

allquixotic

I'm not sure that Davi-- yeah, that

DragonLord

In other news, I got those voltage regulator boards, yay

If I turn the voltage up too much, the load will run too hard and the regulator board overheats, tripping the thermal shutdown.

It does work fine at lower voltages.

Wish those trimpots were more durable, though.

(Of course, this is because the power comes from USB 5V—higher-voltage sources will cause the board to generate less heat. Boost regulators draw more power and dissipate more heat the more you step up the voltage.)

Prasanna

18:08

@DragonLord Hi

thanks for the info

Psycogeek

18:53

Asmyldof

@DragonLord This EE nerd now is super intrigued to know what that's all about ;-)

DragonLord

SUN HACKER

@ISUN_HACKER, 127.0.0/24

I'm not a professional, but I will keep trying to

3.9k tweets, 100k followers, following 382 users

@Asmyldof The idea is to drive a PC case fan at a constant speed on arbitrary power sources.

Step up the voltage a bit higher than 5V USB (and this fan is very sensitive to tiny voltage differences at <6 V) to run it faster, while not making it run so fast so as to blow everything away, generate too much noise, or overheat the voltage regulator.

Asmyldof

19:46

@DragonLord Ah right. I forget sometimes people want to do that. Smoothed PWM control would be more reliable, but, then you'd have to be more creative about 5V inputs :-)

DragonLord

At 12V, this fan is noisy as hell :o

...but at 5V it doesn't run fast enough :(

Asmyldof

20:01

Which is where PWM would come in ;-)

Psycogeek

20:36

Alaska burning has nothing to do with global climate change. (something trump might say :-)

wunderground.com/news/western-wildfires-latest-news 4000 people volenteered to assist washington state in fighting thier fires, but the elitist pigs only got 200 of them qualified

in 1950 if anyone showed up at a bucket brigade , they passed them a bucket, in 2015 , with lawsuits and whiners , and overregulation, nobody is qualified to hold the bucket, and so it burns.

On the other sides of the globe (2 times now) they have sent masses of "qualified" people into a meltdown nuke facility , to "save the world". eventually dont you run out of qualified people ?

DragonLord

20:52

@Asmyldof One of the issues with this supply is its tendency to generate huge amounts of ripple at low input voltages, to the point where a squealing noise is clearly audible in the fan motor especially when spinning up.

Asmyldof

@DragonLord ChineBay ?

Psycogeek

@DragonLord that curcuit is barely enough to do the job for a 2Amp plus fan :-( , but even it could be smoothed. put a 16V capacitor on the output, with some decent picofarad things.

DragonLord

@Psycogeek It's running nowhere near the full operating voltage.

The output is set to around 6-7 volts.

Asmyldof

@Psycogeek pF is basically the fan wiring, I think you're wanting at least uFs

DragonLord

The regulator minimum voltage is 2.9 V.

The squealing noise is loud enough to really get on my nerves.

The ripple is that bad.

Psycogeek

20:56

@DragonLord and your starting with 12V ? because the greater the difference, the more work there will be in that style.

DragonLord

I don't have an oscilloscope, but I'm pretty sure the power this supply is outputting is very dirty at this voltage level.

Asmyldof

Ringing between a BLDC and high loaded converter of "unknown origin" is not uncommon

DragonLord

@Psycogeek No, the source is about 3.2 V (lithium-ion battery under load).

@Asmyldof It's a Pololu voltage regulator board, made in USA.

Asmyldof

Linky?

Psycogeek

@DragonLord lol, uhhh take 2 batteries, that is barely the minimum, for a curcuit of that type and a input of low voltage you might run .25 - .5 A at most.

DragonLord

20:59

The fan is trying to pull about 1A from the voltage regulator.

Psycogeek

and even if it was fully efficent, which it certannly wont be, that would be more than 4 amps on the input. not even going to do that.

Asmyldof

@DragonLord Linky? puppy face

DragonLord

@Psycogeek Like I said, the device is trying to pull about 1A from the regulator (and likely closer to 0.8A). The voltage isn't set that high.

@Asmyldof pololu.com/product/2572

Psycogeek

Its the variation in voltages, a curcuit like that is only godd for its most amps when the variation between the 2 voltages is not so rediculous. for such huge variation, it would be an ok curcuit for some monior stuff, not a delta fan.

Asmyldof

Couple Coil SEPIC mode converter, loads of noise at lower end of its input range isn't weird at all

For LiIon to 6V you're better off with Boost-Only topology

@Psycogeek Not true, actually

Psycogeek

21:03

That curcuit is wimpey compared to the stuff they would use to really drive "power"

Asmyldof

Well designed SEPIC, even with SMT coil can easily convert up to 10W over the range at decent efficiencies

Too lazy to look up the TI part number of the switch equiped TI chip they use, but could be it's ramped by maximum switch current, but the main culprit of noise is internal trace inductance and battery reluctance at higher input currents

DragonLord

This was just an experiment. It was meant to be driven with USB or a 4xAA batteries.

Asmyldof

Dedicated boost converters with uncoupled coil are usually better equiped for those peak currents

DragonLord

@Asmyldof TPS55340

Output power given an input capable of sufficient current is thermally limited.

Psycogeek

running a delta fan off a USB, i would want to start my experiment with a cheap wall powered USB, and insure that both the amps and the spikes were cleared before gettting it anywhere near my computer.

DragonLord

21:09

@Psycogeek As I said, the current draw is quite low at lower input voltages.

Psycogeek

@DragonLord the part reaching thermal overload :-) is not a limiter

DragonLord

...and yes, I spent time monitoring power draw from USB and adjusting the trimpot as appropriate.

I have a high-power USB power bank and when I turn up the output voltage at the regulator, the board overheats and starts to switch on and off repeatedly.

Asmyldof

@DragonLord To be fuly sure you'd need to check start-up current on a fast response device, or your root hub will just shut it down regardless

Overload protection is quite fast response

Psycogeek

I always assume people are making stuff intended to last, not hack-a-days .

DragonLord

Board temperature can run close to 200 °F at that point (according to my IR thermometer).

Asmyldof

21:12

It does seem their tracing/planing is the limiting factor, both the inductor size and value and the chip itself seem to imply higher performance than the efficience curves they show for low input voltages

**with overload protect I mean of the USB driver chips

bertieb

So today is International Dog Day. Woof!

4

DragonLord

Basically, it's tripping the 55340's thermal shutdown. The junction temperature at the chip is well above 150 °C at that point.

Asmyldof

@bertieb Explains why I've had such a Rough Day

bertieb

@Asmyldof I didn't know Al Pacino frequented RA!

(Unless I missed that reference?)

Asmyldof

Although... at about 19:00 the auto calibrate of my "box of magic" worked, so I are somewhat happiness

bertieb

21:16

Box of magic?

Asmyldof

I am missing yours

bertieb

(sorry to derail the technical discussion)

Asmyldof

I meant to imply the animal sound Rough with the capitalisation

Yes, I am designing a box of magic

bertieb

Ahhhh! I thought it was a reference to Dog Day Afternoon, a film about a bank robbery gone wrong

Asmyldof

Mixed Signal Embedded system to control voltages and currents in all 4 quadrants on 64 channels fully synchronised

Nah, never seen it

I only rarely see movies

bertieb

21:17

Sounds, well, sounds like a Box o' Magic™

Asmyldof

Need to be invited by someone I like to even think of watching one

:-)

Psycogeek

@bertieb and a movie good enough to watch.

bertieb

@Psycogeek <scruffy>Second.</scruffy>

Asmyldof

2MHz pulse position/current mode boost. That could be tiny, noiseless and efficient. Even down to double AA

Sorry, my brain is exploding, or so it feels, and then it sometimes blurts out afterthoughts, which my OCD makes me tell people

I'll shuttup/go do something now

Psycogeek

Stupid question of the week: superuser.com/questions/963066/… While roaming mars on google earth , earth coordinates are not working as planned :-)

Interesting, but stupid.

bertieb

21:27

@Psycogeek I s'pose principle of least surprise should either take user back to Earth view or say "Hey... this isn't Earth" or something

Psycogeek

Yea because programming should have galactic GPS all figured out by now :-)

(right after galactic gps sattalites are in place)

bertieb

21:41

<-- has no idea how Google Earth works

That said, you'd think they could put a tiny <planet></planet> field in the XML or JSON or whatever they use to store these locations :D

Psycogeek

has no idea either, but suspects that the 3d sphere and psudo gps coordinates used on any "sphere" one wraps with a texture are using the same basic stuff.

Asmyldof

@Psycogeek Probably that

Non-earth mode was one of those "hey, let's" additions

Psycogeek

right

Asmyldof

Not really a planned sprint path

Psycogeek

hey lookie mom what we can do.

Asmyldof

21:45

Right, much like their "April Fools" jokes

Though Packman on the Eindhoven University Campus was fun

Psycogeek

will galatic positioning systems (GPS) have 64 bit addresses ?

Blender Warrior

Can someone here help me out on a question?

Asmyldof

@Psycogeek Depends on the accuracy you require, but a rough estimate top of head type would make me say more in the 256bit-ish park

Psycogeek

22:02

@BlenderWarrior could be? at the least i can try and make a joke out of it.

Psycogeek

22:21

@Asmyldof yea i think i got that off by 6 zeros , which only counts when they are behind something :-) 1000000 Oh well back to the drawing board, many microfarads.

Asmyldof

@Psycogeek Well, if your zeroes are behind something, they are hard to find, so, it's imaginable

Psycogeek

when your off by so much they represent it as 10 to the power of , dont even try to fly to mars :-)

Asmyldof

While I am aware of both the silly numbers you merkans use and the SI system, I'm not planning on flying to mars

The fuel costs alone are a good reason for not doing it

Huh

My phone didn't know exFAT or NTFS, so I thought "well, that's it for trying 64GB"

But it just said for exFAT "It's broken, want to format?" now it's FAT32 and takes 48GB directly from Windows in card reader

Psycogeek

They are not too good at partitions on Sd cards either.

Asmyldof

Thought windows didn't do FAT32 on flash drives larger than 32GB

Psycogeek

22:30

@Asmyldof there are ways. windows wont create it but once created it works fine.

Asmyldof

@Psycogeek Super weird, but hey, it's fine now

Hurray for smart phones that try

Nitynite

Psycogeek

23:10

hmmm, i wonder if i can get fined/herassed on national dog day for letting my dogs run off leash.

DragonLord

@Asmyldof Good night.

Journeyman Geek

@Asmyldof it won't create them. It will read them.

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