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00:46
@Ramhound: meh. He needs to read the fine help ;p
sigh
Had another BSOD. Most likely it's the Intel HD Graphics driver failing again.
Apr 26 at 2:22, by DragonLord
I just updated the Intel HD Graphics driver and it's crashed on me twice so far. Twice in the same session.
Rolled back, problems seemed to have fixed themselves, but updated again and now I'm dealing with intermittent crashes.
Can't Intel write a stable video driver?
Had nonstop TDRs, followed by a VIDEO_SCHEDULER_INTERNAL_ERROR BSOD.
Must have somehow corrupted some part of the DirectX subsystem.
Bob
Bob
01:42
@DragonLord s/Intel/anyone/
@allquixotic can tell you all about graphics driver instability :P
I think Nvidia is probably the best at driver stability at the moment for modern GPUs on Win8/Win10, but I've also read of problems from Nvidia users. AMD is probably the worst.
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic I'm still reasonably certain Nvidia is responsible for at least a large part of my FF memory leak issues.
Left a Twitch stream on overnight on a completely clean profile. Came back to find < 300 MB explicit allocations but > 1.5 GB private working set.
And that's after closing the Twitch tab too.
No extensions, only two tabs... nothing special.
Then again, disabling hardware accel didn't really help.
Bob
Bob
02:22
O_O
VSCode supports mono but not .NET: code.visualstudio.com/Docs/editor/debugging
@allquixotic ^
That's... certainly interesting.
Bob
Bob
02:36
heh, these are interesting too github.com/dotnet/corefxlab
02:50
@Bob wonder if that's specific to your card gen - I hope so, or that would be a major problem with me getting a 980 Ti
there are a lot of different code paths between card generations >_> let's hope that's one of them
03:18
@ssnobody this is my index.js and this is jpm run output.
I've checked myhttp.info shows my IP instead of google, in-spite of My Jetpack addon is enabled.
Also checked proxy from about:me which seems not configured:
Also If I manually configure proxy to proxy.googlezip.net with port 80 then I get error: This page cannot be loaded via the Chrome Data Compression Proxy. Try reloading the page. Debug info: CLik8oziwMcCFcJ9aAodcq4L4g==
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic You're better off asking @JourneymanGeek
04:01
 
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05:13
@Pandya The answer to your question remains, set the proxy to proxy.googlezip.net and port 80, and inject the Chrome-Proxy header. You are getting that "page cannot be loaded" because you are not injecting the Chrome-Proxy header. Unfortunately, I see that the beta of jpm wasn't released until Firefox 34, and the global require function was not implemented until Firefox 36. You are using a pretty old version of firefox that jpm was not meant for.
If the extension is not working, you might looking into creating your own extension for Firefox 31 using cfx. There is some code over at github.com/kafene/header-modifier that might work for you, but even that says Firefox 32+
Alternatively, if you are able to upgrade the browser, I have tested this extension in 40.0.2 and it is likely to work in at least the last ESR, which would be Firefox 38+.
05:45
I see from ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla that the latest version of gnuzilla / icecat is 31.8.0, so upgrading icecat likely won't help.
addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/moz-rewrite-js is reported to work with Firefox 4+ which should clearly include your version and that add-on has a javascript driven rules engine and I've already provided a javascript function that generates the auth header for you. You can likely use that extension to inject the Chrome-Proxy header and I'd be interested in hearing your results.
06:00
Found definitive information on version support for jpm. From developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/SDK/Tutorials/… you can only use jpm "from Firefox 38 onwards." You'll need to re-write the extension without using jpm by using cfx
06:28
@allquixotic I've not seen that kind of issue with either of my nvidia cards No issues other than needing to download and install the driver after the initial upgrade either. I'd be happy to run specific tests as long as I don't need to leave a PC on overnight (the lights THE LIGHTS!)
06:44
Hello all. I hope these questions are appropriate for this room.

Firstly,

I have 5.1 surround sound. According to Windows (10), they're all set up correctly. When I press 'test' I get a sound from the appropriate speaker so I guess they're wired correctly.

However, VLC Player, iTunes etc on;y play sound from the front two speakers. I realise that the files might be stereo not 5.1 but can't I force all 5 (plus sub) to produce music?

Thanks
07:08
@Jdoh There could be a setting for that in the audio device management software
VLC might also be able to do it internally
Bob
Bob
07:43
@JourneymanGeek Yea, that's the thing. This only manifests if I leave it on for an extended period.
12+ hours.
Maybe hibernation can simulate it.
@Bob: I sleep in the same room as the PC. using it or leaving it on while I'm at work is an option tho ;p
Bob
Bob
07:55
@JourneymanGeek I have a similar setup, but my computer doubles as a heater and I don't really mind the light :P
@Bob: I don't need the former. The latter... well my monitors are arranged to hide the little LEDs. Not the big bright led fans.
08:10
and of course, I'm planning, preliminarily, to do a desk replacement about feb, and to possibly grab one of those korean IPS screen as a secondary about july-august next year.
08:26
Morning!
Bob
Bob
'lo
Bob
Bob
08:58
O_O
ugh problem after problem >_<
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek ^
SQL stuff today. I've tried to DECLARE an int and SET it to "@@IDENTITY", after my first INSERT INTO to save the primary key to use it in further inserts as a foreign key. But I'm getting the feeling that DECLARE doesn't work with the Microsoft Access Driver. ~_~
Bob
Bob
o.O
@marcusdoesstuff You can't just SELECT @@IDENTITY?
> After an INSERT, SELECT INTO, or bulk copy statement is completed, @@IDENTITY contains the last identity value that is generated by the statement.
@marcusdoesstuff Remember, SELECT is a query.
problem is when there are multiple lines.
Bob
Bob
09:08
Look up how to perform queries with pyodbc.
@marcusdoesstuff ?
1. `INSERT INTO` SDS table
2. `SELECT @@IDENTITY` and save in a Python variable
3. `INSERT INTO` other tables using the id from the Python variable
i can get it to SELECT @@IDENTITY the first time... But as that is a table with it's own PK, when I do the same for the 3rd line, it doesn't find the same key.
looking into that now, thanks.
i think i had a look at something like that last week but i ended up finding this: stackoverflow.com/questions/4454219/… (which looked spot on but didn't end up working. :P)
Bob
Bob
@marcusdoesstuff Of course. You don't grab the transient value every time.
You grab it when it is correct and cache that correct value in a local variable.
@marcusdoesstuff Don't bother with that. That's inserting the key into another DB value.
well i did figure that out at least
Bob
Bob
Just cache it locally.
this is what i was trying.
please don't cry too much at my poor ability though :P
Bob
Bob
09:13
@marcusdoesstuff IMO you're going about this the wrong way.
4 mins ago, by Bob
1. `INSERT INTO` SDS table
2. `SELECT @@IDENTITY` and save in a Python variable
3. `INSERT INTO` other tables using the id from the Python variable
i thought i might.
(my gist is from before i asked here) :)
Bob
Bob
Look at how they do queries
also, i've tried to do multi-line sql on this but i always find it breaks and i end up going back to this single-line/separate statements crap. sorry it's a mess :P
Bob
Bob
09:16
@marcusdoesstuff I honestly wouldn't expect much from Access.
ooh i like that idea... that it's all access's fault and not mine!
what would be a reasonable step up from access, that is still fairly beginner friendly, yet more fully featured and still has a reasonable gui / form making ability?
Bob
Bob
@marcusdoesstuff N/A.
SQLite is nice, but it's primarily programmatic
Just about everything is.
The entire concept of "designing forms" doesn't mesh well with most DB packages.
as i feared >_<
Bob
Bob
You could probably do it with a third-party program, but it wouldn't be built-in.
Bob
Bob
09:24
@marcusdoesstuff Anyway, just do what I said above.
It's pretty straightforward.
Perfoem the SELECT @@IDENTITY query right after the initial insert.
Save the result in a Python variable
Then use that Python variable to insert into other tables.
Not really much different than what's already there.
09:54
@tereško are you there ?
good
download the archive, and then extract the ISO file from it
@tereško alright, 33% downloading ... ;-)
@tereško what I'm downloading, is not a virtualbox ?
that *.xz is an archive which will contain an *.iso file
iso file is a CD image (like your windows installation disc)
09:59
FreeBSD is linux afaik
@Richerdfuld you know it wrong
@tereško aha, So after downloading that, I need to download a virtualbox ?
be in the race of freebsd
@Sajad yes, you will need that too
@tereško sorry what is it than ?
10:00
@tereško ok
@Richerdfuld this video should help: youtube.com/watch?v=g7tvI6JCXD0 (the lecture will contain a brief history of BSD .. and it's kinda funny)
thanks :)
so, to start, you will need installed virtualbox and iso (since I am a lazy person, we are going with this one: ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/ISO-IMAGES/10.2/… )
@tereško what is that ?? I download it again ?
10:05
@tereško it is for other persons ?
yes .. just in case
ok
90 %
OK, done, I extract ISO file where ? in the C drive ?
it doesn't matter, you will only need the ISO file while you install it
you will only need the ISO file while you install "it", what is the refrence of "it" ?
operating system
10:10
ok
there is a probelm
like?
how I open .xz file ?
hmm .. try to open the file with it
google says taht winrar knows how to do stuff with *.xz
ok wait
ok, winrar can not open it ...
10:14
ok tnx
btw, you shouldn't be using winrar :P
ok :)
all your choices are different @tereško linux->bsd ,winrar->7zip .....etc :D
@AnmolRaghuvanshi winrar has licence issues.
yup mee to lazy never try to find alternate :P
10:17
besides, you shouldn't use pirated software, if there superiour free alternatives .. that's just strange
ok .. you done @Sajad ?
this file ?
it is .iso
yes, just drag it to folder where you want to save it
ok
so ?
now, I assume you have installed virtualbox already, so you should launch it
@tereško no I did not install virtualbox already ..
10:25
you're slow :P
:-)
you told I need to download a virtualbox, right ?
well, yes, you need to download and install it
may (please) give me a download link ?
10:27
@AnmolRaghuvanshi oh there is several links
@tereško aha tnx
@tereško I use of windowse 8.1, So I download this link ?
1sec, i'm on phone
ok
@Sajad yes, the one given by @tereško is right
@Sathya ok tnx
I'm back
10:37
@tereško welcome back :)
20 %
man what a day
My dad had unscheduled laser eye surgery.
@JourneymanGeek more burnt psus? :p
@JourneymanGeek :o
Naw, came home early from work. My boss is awesome tho
Also. NO ONE PLANS FOR ANYTHING AROUND HERE.
@Sajad so, for linux and bsd operating systems there are two general ways to install software: 1. compile it from source 2. install from centralized package repository (I will be talking you through the second approach, because compileing stuff takes time)
grabbed the shades the moment he got home ;p
10:40
@tereško ok, second approach is good
if you decide to learn more about servers, you will naturally gravitate towards the first approach on your own
aha ok
I still have not chosen Linux version ?
@JourneymanGeek lol
(wishing your dad a speedy recovery @jou)
@JourneymanGeek What do you think about Silicone Power SDHC flash cards?
@Bob A while back you told me "for multiline matches, you should loop through the array of all values". is that a simple change or something more complex?
10:51
@Sajad so ? Did you launch vbox?
@Bob This was regarding the lists of precautionary statements, etc, that this script extracts from the SDS.
I've not found an obvious answer online yet but I'm still looking :)
Bob
Bob
@marcusdoesstuff if you search chat history I basically gave you the pseudocode already
something like
for blah in data["blah"]:
    # add blah to sql db
where each blah is a full line of the match, and you might want to further parse that down to just the IDs
@tereško 98 %
@tereško the download speed is 30kb/s
@tereško there is a strange thing, the UI of my 7-Zip is Persian !!

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