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DragonLord

16:43

We need to stop using wasteful $1 bills and start using #dollarcoins http://blog.oup.com/2015/08/future-dollar-bills/ @DollarCoinNow

Tweeted by fierydragonlord on August 18, 2015 at 4:42 PM

Most industrialized nations use coins for similar amounts of money, and paper money is only for larger denominations. Canada has CA$5 as the lowest paper money denomination. Europe has €5 as the smallest banknote denomination. For Japan, it's ¥1000.

Why are we still using banknotes for US$1?

I always keep a bunch of dollar coins in my wallet.

bertieb

I collect £1 notes because I like 'em :D

(and $2 bills)

allquixotic

@DragonLord I hate bills in general, especially $1, because vending machines tend to eat them. It's much more fool-proof to use coins.

DragonLord

The vast majority of existing vending machines have no trouble with dollar coins. Why do consumers reject them?

Switching to dollar coins would eliminate the need for expensive bill acceptors in many vending machines.

HackToHell

What's the great online python course which @JourneymanGeek and @jokerdino were doing ?

DragonLord

They're not inconvenient to handle. In fact, it's much easier for me to use dollar coins than to use dollar bills for small transactions.

allquixotic

16:55

@DragonLord The vending machines where I work don't accept dollar coins, and often eat dollar bills.

My only recourse is quarters

DragonLord

We need to stop printing $1 notes, ramp up circulation and minting of the $1 coin, and introduce a $2 coin.

I've honestly never liked having a stack of $1 bills in my wallet.

Mokubai

But how are you going to put $1 coins in a strippers g-string?

I thought that was the ~~whole~~ only point of the $1 note....

DragonLord

@Mokubai Well, you don't use notes for £1, either.

Mokubai

And? I hate coins just as much as notes...

DragonLord

I've written to my Congressman before about this. Stop using the dollar bill and start using dollar coins!

Mokubai

17:04

Coins aren't really that much better, at least paper you can fold away, coins are just weight

Bob

@DragonLord What is this paper money you speak of?

DragonLord

@Bob US currency is produced as banknotes in $1, $2 (not widely used), $5, $10, $20, $50, and $100; and coins in 1¢, 5¢, 10¢, 25¢, 50¢, and $1 (the latter two are currently minted only for collectors).

The problem is that most industrialized nations do not use banknotes for amounts less than the equivalent of $5, while we continue to use $1 notes.

Bob

@DragonLord I was joking about paper notes.

DragonLord

I've long held the belief that $1 notes are obsolete and should be phased out.

Bob

(speaking of which, even US banknotes aren't really paper)

Also, as far as vending machines go, only accepting coins can be a pain in the arse.

I'd rather not carry a bunch of coins around. They make a rather annoying (and wallet-destroying) bulge.

DragonLord

17:09

15 mins ago, by DragonLord

They're not inconvenient to handle. In fact, it's much easier for me to use dollar coins than to use dollar bills for small transactions.

Bob

50c coins are the worst. $1 isn't great. $2 is alright (nice and small) but can easily slip through holes.

@DragonLord Note that I'm speaking as an Australian, and we haven't had $1 notes since well before I was born (not since polymer notes were introduced).

I'd hazard that I might have a tad more experience with using coins everywhere for small denominations...

DragonLord

Just came up in my Twitter feed: Final Fantasy Type-0 HD is now on PC!

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Tweeted by steam_games on August 18, 2015 at 5:10 PM

Bob

I'd actually prefer not to use cash when possible. But on the whole notes are easier to deal with than coins, and far easier to keep in a wallet.

Wouldn't particularly like large quantities of $1 notes either.

@allquixotic The vending machine argument is interesting, and probably more useful in the US - vending machines cost so much here (typical drink ~$3.50-$4.50) that you'd need to keep quite a few coins around. And it's probably compounded by your use of ragpaper without any easily-checked clear windows, etc..

DragonLord

The US$1 note is obsolete and should be discontinued. Most other industrialized nations use coins for similiar denominations. @DollarCoinNow

Tweeted by fierydragonlord on August 18, 2015 at 5:18 PM

Bob

Small denominations, whether coins or notes, end up just being annoying space/weight-takers I want to get rid of.

Contactless cards, OTOH, are great. Now if only they didn't compromise the security for legacy support...

jokerdino

17:21

@HackToHell did you get your answer yet? It's Introduction to interactive python programming

HackToHell

@jokerdino nope and thanks

allquixotic

@Bob hmm, "commercial" vending machines at stores, etc. are between $1.25 - $1.75 for a drink, but it's 65 cents at work, since the sodas are partially subsidized by the company

DragonLord

@Bob Here it's closer to $1.50 to $2.00 for a 20 oz drink

Bob

@allquixotic Yea, you aren't getting away with <$2 in any vending machine I've seen here.

But vending machines aren't as common as in the US either, AFAICT

(adjusted for exchange rates, it's probably not too far off, but speaking of coins the actual number is more useful)

I've seen some capable of processing card payments (contactless is great), and some accepting notes. But otherwise if you aren't carrying a bunch of coins then you aren't getting anything.

DragonLord

@Bob In Hong Kong, the Octopus contactless card system is used pretty much everywhere.

There's an app for Android which can be used on NFC-capable devices to read their current value and recent transactions.

Bob

17:28

@DragonLord We just use credit/debit cards. Anything that goes through Mastercard or Visa now has contactless.

And, yea, NFC from phones work too if the bank has the relevant app.

As in you can quite literally pay with your phone at a credit card reader.

My bank offers it, but I've never bothered with it.

Out (recently-introduced) transport cards (Opal) is pretty bad, though.

Might just be teething problems, but it's not looking like it'll improve much.

AU coins: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coins_of_the_Australian_dollar

You can see why I hate carrying 50c coins -_-

and why I like the $2 ones

@DragonLord I think you guys could do with getting rid of pennies before worrying overly much about $1 :P

Or maybe do both at the same time?

Psycogeek

17:47

thats a plan, because doller coins dont fit well into the usual till slots availble in cash registers. all purchaces could gladly and easily be in 5cent denomination, but what about taxes? rounding up would be severly rejected.

Bob

@Psycogeek we just round to nearest

...taxes are included in the on-shelf price

Psycogeek

even if there inst a person in the world who would care about th 4cent, they would start a war over having to hand it to the goverment :-)

Bob

so 1, 2, 6, 7 round down. 3, 4, 8, 9 round up.

doesn't mean you get rid of 0.01 fractions everywhere. just with cash.

Psycogeek

and replace 60,000$ cash registers to do the new math? or expect cashiers processing more people per hour than anybody , to actually think?

Bob

@Psycogeek Sure.

allquixotic

17:54

can anyone else reach chat.enjin.com on port 5222?

expected protocol is XMPP (over TLS, I guess) but no packets coming back for me

Psycogeek

I would bet the ones used at Fast food joints probably would take a bit of programming, to adjust to it. but the grocery and department store style probably not.

Bob

@allquixotic oh, not HTTP

I don't have an XMPP client here

and I have no clue how to simulate TLS with PuTTY :P

Psycogeek

In places where "yen" is used how many lower denominations do they no longer care about?

allquixotic

@Bob nmap ?

Bob

 openssl s_client -connect chat.enjin.com:5222

nada

so if it is TLS it's not responding

DragonLord

17:58

@Psycogeek The smallest current yen coin is ¥1, produced from pure aluminum.

Bob

it hasn't actually closed the connection

just not doing anything

DragonLord

There do exist smaller units, but rin (¥0.001) and sen (¥0.01) are obsolete as of 1954.

Mokubai

Little do we know, but @allquixotic now has all your IP addresses and rough geographical locations...

Bob

@Mokubai he already has mine

@allquixotic Wireshark says !!no

Psycogeek

@DragonLord 119 yen = 1 Usd in april this year

allquixotic

18:01

@Mokubai it's not my box

Bob

allquixotic

ok, thanks, so it seems down

Psycogeek

@DragonLord so they did it, making it a possibility here too.

Mokubai

@Psycogeek All you need is a bit of economic meltdown and hyper-inflation to get the ball rolling...

Psycogeek

"Fractional Rounding in Payments Act " , we could call it "Nickle Rounding in Payments Act"

That Brazilian Guy

18:06

1) I notice I can't search for certain keywords on Firefox.
2) *Hmm... funny... What if...*
3) ???
4) ---Profit!--- Lots of rep points! :D

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Q: Why pinging "drive" gets replies from 127.0.53.53?

I'm using Firefox 31 on Ubuntu 14.04.1 I tried to open Google Drive on Firefox by typing "drive" on the address bar and then clicking on the first Google result (lazy and convoluted, I know). It shows me a connection error: Suspecting a router issue, or maybe a DNS issue caused by my ISP, I ...

Psycogeek

@Mokubai yup and in a few years, the american doller being worth about 1Cent too, it would all be rounded off :-)

DragonLord

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Bob

@ThatBrazilianGuy Ghetto Chat Markdown.

(can't use formatting in multiline, aside from a > in the first line or making the whole thing monospaced)

DragonLord

Formatting does not work in multiline chat messages.

That Brazilian Guy

meh

GFSE

18:14

GemsFromStackExchange: I’ll tell you what it’s not: “nude....

posted on August 18, 2015

I’ll tell you what it’s not: “nude. j’s”

Psycogeek

18:50

In Da News: "The United States and its allies launched 20 air strikes on Monday against Islamic State militants in Syria and Iraq, according to the Combined Joint Task Force leading the air operations." oh oh when did the war in Syria start. you know i predicted those imperialist swine , would play that game.

uk.reuters.com/article/2015/08/18/…

Luckily i have my Nest egg all worked out activistpost.com/2015/06/… "Apparently, the Pentagon has made use of $8.5 trillion of our tax money handed over by Congress since 1996—but don’t ask what was done with the money. The Department of Defense doesn’t have a clue."

I just need to find where the ba%#$ burried it .

This is all far from being any sort of criminal activity. (they surpassed criminal long ago :-)

rlemon

19:35

o/

quick question about rpi2 and ubuntu-mate. ubuntu-mate.org/raspberry-pi on the build step... where the hell do I run this? when I image the sd card I have two paritions, PI_ROOT and PI_BOOT. PI_BOOT is empty, PI_ROOT is not accessible.

I'm so confused. :/

(sorry if this isn't a SU thing)

needoriginalname

20:20

hi

DragonLord

Intel is pushing Rezence wireless charging very hard with Skylake

I have this odd feeling that Rezence support will be mandatory for Skylake-based Ultrabooks

> All major PC vendors have agreed to use this technology in Skylake-based laptops, which should be released by the end of 2015. (Wikipedia)

Very likely mandatory in the next Ultrabook specification.

allquixotic

Surface Pro 4 with "Rezence"?

Canadian Luke

21:47

Rezence?

!!wiki Rezence

@ChatBotJohnCavil You're fired!

DragonLord

22:08

@allquixotic?

allquixotic

@DragonLord hmm?

DragonLord

20 mins ago, by Canadian Luke

@ChatBotJohnCavil You're fired!

Any ideas?

ChatBot John Cavil

Chatbot has sent a message using the client bot infrastructure.

allquixotic

!!info

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic I awoke on Tue, 18 Aug 2015 22:10:20 GMT (that's about 14 seconds ago), learned 99 commands

Canadian Luke

22:11

!!wiki Rezence

ChatBot John Cavil

Rezence (wireless charging standard)

Rezence (pronounced reh-zense) is an interface standard developed by the Alliance for Wireless Power (A4WP) for wireless electrical power transfer based on the principles of magnetic resonance. The Rezence system consists of a single power transmitter unit (PTU) and one or more power receiver units (PRUs). The interface standard supports power transfer up to 50 Watts, at distances up to 5 centimeters. The power transmission frequency is 6.78 MHz, and up to eight devices can be powered from a single PTU depending on transmitter and receiver geometry and power levels. A Bluetooth Smart link is defined...

Canadian Luke

There we go! Now I understand!

DragonLord

@allquixotic If the chatbot is running on a Linux machine, you might want to use Valgrind to see where it might be leaking memory.

Oliver Salzburg

22:30

DragonLord

For some reason, I want to get back into learning piano

The electronic keyboard I have isn't exactly great, so if I'm to get back into this, I'd need to have space for a decent Yamaha Portable Grand (and my office doesn't have enough space to accommodate one)

...and I'd need $500 for the YPG-535.

...and I'd need to block out at least 20-30 minutes a day for practice.

Canadian Luke

22:50

@OliverSalzburg -.-

DragonLord

23:59

This DSL service is constantly going down on us. We're going to switch to cable soon.

Turns out we're paying more than we thought for inferior service.

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