Root Access

Journeyman Geek

00:04

weee.

Restored my x220 to the old SSD (which is smaller than my old drive), and pared down the drive from 90gb to 30gb by cleaning out the windows.old and background download folders (I have backups), and moving or deleting things.

DragonLord

00:32

Do I try again with pushing 10 answers a day?

Jon Skeet, Reading, United Kingdom

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allquixotic

@DragonLord Do what you enjoy, and pay no attention to what others do. You'd probably be happier answering a few questions a day (but maybe 10 is too much), doing a few reviews, making a few flags... mixes it up, gets rid of the monotony, and lets you help every "aspect" of the site in a small way

focusing on one specific aspect because someone else does a lot of it can lead to your losing perspective

DragonLord

Nearly 200 answers in the last 30 days.

Worth it?

There's enough time in my schedule to allow it, but keep in mind that I keep tabs for each answer I post open for at least three days since posting it. This can mean dozens of tabs and dozens of answers to keep track of.

It'll consume most of my free time, though.

I tried (and succeeded in) posting five answers as part of a Winter Bash challenge (and I was the only one to earn the Bill Lumbergh hat on Super User), but it nearly exhausted me and left very little time for my usual review tasks.

DragonLord

01:19

One thing that baffles me with BitLocker to Go.

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Q: How does BitLocker to Go leave an unencrypted file (BitLocker to Go Reader) that is readable by Windows XP without extra software?

BitLocker to Go volumes are fully supported on Windows 7 and later. For compatibility with systems running Windows XP or Windows Vista, a utility called BitLocker to Go Reader is provided to enable read-only access to the volume on these older systems. The BitLocker to Go Reader, bitlockertogo.e...

windows encryption compatibility disk-encryption bitlocker

Bob

@DragonLord I suspect it does something similar to all those 'secure' utilities that come with (SanDisk?) drives.

Where you run the utility to mount a different FS, normally hidden.

I'd guess that the BitLocker implementation built into Windows would normally mask the normally-visible FS.

DragonLord

...but Windows XP is not BitLocker-aware!

Bob

@DragonLord So?

1 min ago, by Bob

I'd guess that the BitLocker implementation built into Windows would normally mask the normally-visible FS.

XP does not have a built-in implementation, so the visible FS is not masked, so you can see and run said utility.

DragonLord

> To use BitLocker To Go Reader on a computer that is running Windows XP or Windows Vista, your BitLocker-protected removable drive must be formatted by using the exFAT, FAT16, or FAT32 file system. If the drive is NTFS formatted, it can only be unlocked on a computer that is running Windows 7.

This might be a clue to the answer.

Hence:

> Does this mean that it leaves a portion of the volume's filesystem metadata unencrypted for this purpose? (If so, how does it do this without interfering with the rest of the filesystem?)

Bob

@DragonLord Nope. Would make more sense to mount a separate FS.

DragonLord

01:27

...but there's only one volume!

Bob

Otherwise you leave yourself open to the legacy OS storing unencrypted data on the drive. And potential FS corruption. Or leaking the structure.

DragonLord

On a non-Windows device, there's only one volume visible.

Bob

@DragonLord Only one visible volume.

Until you run said utility.

Anyway, that's just a guess based on the dozens of flash drive utilities that do something similar.

I don't have a VM handy at the moment, but you can probably figure it out reasonably easily by looking at a dump of the disk.

@DragonLord forensicswiki.org/wiki/…

not much info there

The use of the term discovery drive is again reminiscent of the scheme other utilities use.

@DragonLord github.com/libyal/libbde/blob/master/documentation/…

@DragonLord jessekornblum.com/presentations/dodcc10-1.pdf

Looks like it goes the volume-within-vole route.

If you assume that diagram in the presentation is correct, you have a wrapper FAT32 FS and an encrypted FS inside (exFAT in the example).

It's possibly marked as used space in the FAT, but that's actually a tad risky... I wonder how they prevent chkdsk/fsck from clearing it.

@DragonLord Actually, I think I've got it... simply make the actual partition bigger than the FS metadata.

A well-behaved FS (driver) won't try to read past the size defined in the metadata regardless of what the partition table specifies.

Then the only risk left is from partition resizing tools not being aware of the secondary FS.

But one could argue that that's an acceptable risk.

DragonLord

01:55

If you have an answer, be sure to post it. I'm going to bed shortly.

Bob

@DragonLord It would be about one paragraph at this point.

At the very least, I'd want to try to confirm it before posting. But I can't right now.

So someone else probably will.

I've already left a comment.

@DragonLord Alternatively, if you don't mind me posting an answer based on those sources, I can do that.

Bob

02:39

Ohhh, fancy.

Bob

03:38

@DragonLord Sorry, above assumption was wrong.

Got an 8GB flash drive here, FS header started at offset 0x4000 (sector 32), at 0x4020 4 bytes little-endian (FAT32 total sector count): E0 8B EE 00

With 512-byte sectors, that's ~8GB.

I can also see a second FAT header down at sector 38 (0x4C00).

So it looks like they aren't using the FS-partsize mismatch trick

But instead somehow actually reserving space in the FS itself

...can't be bothered digging into it any more at this time.

Here's my half-written now-useless answer :P

<sup>*Note: this answer is based on the sources listed at the bottom, not experimental data. I will update with experimental data if/when I find the opportunity to perform the relevant tests. I offer no guarantees on the correctness of this information.*</sup>

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## Filesystem theory

First, a little bit of filesytem theory. There are two 'sizes' that might be relevant to a volume:

* The filesystem (FAT32, exFAT, NTFS, etc.) size. This is defined as part of the filesystem itself, somewhere in its metadata.

HackToHell

04:03

TIL tenforums.com/customization/…

Journeyman Geek

04:27

nice

SHould be there by default tho

Journeyman Geek

05:38

woof

2

Got ipv6 on my dedi

next I need to get it on the webserver VM and see if I can set up ipv6 only vms ._.

Hennes

telnet ::1 80

Aka, morning. Glorious nice cold morning.

(can you tell I had enough of the local heatwave?)

Journeyman Geek

annoying part was I was looking for a howto for the dedi. Failed to find one. THEN the host updated their docs, and tah dah

Its rediculously simple

Bob

06:05

@Hennes I'm freezing

Can we swap?

Hennes

Average out ? If only

Psycogeek

07:01

I still know nothing about the win10 activation key method, but one odd thing, dude says all the product keys shown by the systems post 10 updates are the same.

I am still wondering about the ~2 su postings that a error was presented that it was using a "generic" key. Plus the "this device has been to the strore or updating to much" however that error goes.

I think i did get a consencus though on one aspect. After upgrading, the activation process took a bit of time. people worrying that it would not ever activate, just waited time and it self activated.

superuser.com/questions/947225/… "Device Limit Reached" "Windows 10 you can install apps and games on up to only 10 devices per Microsoft Account" Account that makes sence

Account just like google account at play store. Which still leaves some of those questions about the nessesity of a microsoft account. I do not have a problem with a google or microsoft account. It just goes back to some of the issues i had with the online e-mail program from microsoft NOT needing an account, but was still connecting to MS every run and every close anyway.

After people said it did not require a MS account, Mr. Firewall still said it would connect. While opening the e-mail program was probably Phish check, while Leaving the program it connecting again, has no excuse.

There are other things that do not seem to ever get discovered. (how that happens with router logs and firewall fanatics) When reading an article they often see the obvious, and have a fit about it, even figure out how to stop it. But looking here there often seems to be 1-2 things completely missed. If your going to lock the system to fully secure, then miss stuff, Why Bother :-)

I percieve there are people out there running Bogus versions of the OS , spending hours making sure that microsoft does not know. And well they do :-) Even if you hit all the articals and ways and means, the info itself often didnt even see it all.

And other WHYs. like how come my system would connect to MS for various disgnostic & error stuff turned on in the pro version. When i had followed the prescribed method to turn it off, and opt-out, but it was still factually on even stated that it did the work. Most of this stuff is not a secret to the OS :-)

Psycogeek

08:10

what is important about bogus versions? they often have a lot of problems that do not get fixed because they are paranoid to connect to the update servers and get them up to speed. 2 major slop piles of updates have already come in for 10 and a SR1 comming out.

So you have people comming in to any of the "help" locations, reporting problems that exist only because they will not update. They will not reveal that they "did not update" Or Subtely "Is not conneted to the web to update" or are using a pre-releace, because they think it will activate forever. The people trying to help saying "i do not have that problem" the bogus version saying they do.

Big freaking waste of time for people trying to help, and Me trying to figure out if I will have the same problems.

Psycogeek

09:12

I oddly support the same ideals and methods as the pirates , while running a colonial flagship fully paid for . For 100% completely different reasons. I do not want my use tracked anon or not , I want the system i paid for, to work the same connected as disconnected. i want the system to be as simple as possible. In observation if there is "nothing else going on" I can tell what is going on. With all the stuff going on and out, it is hard to tell if some virus or malware is doing something.

I am not paranoid at all, just because I want the system to work after the zombie apocalypse.

I do (and want to) manually control updates too, but only so I can see the actual effect to the system the update has had. without that i am just blindly driving straight into a brick wall.

Psycogeek

09:35

If you hear what you think is someone breaking into your house, you go all quiet , and listen. if the OS and all it's activity will not STFU for a few minutes, how do you tell if someone is breaking in our out of your computer. The dog sleeping over there in the corner (the Anti Virus and firewall) has proved before it will sleep right through, you being robbed and abused.

Boris_yo

10:03

@JourneymanGeek You were not migrating?

@Psycogeek How about these top results?

amazon.com/b/ref=dp_bc_4?ie=UTF8&node=262593011

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: nah

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek From [here](http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/Windows-10-specifications)

"Some editions are excluded: Windows 7 Enterprise, Windows 8/8.1 Enterprise, and Windows RT/RT 8.1. Active Software Assurance customers in volume licensing have the benefit to upgrade to Windows 10 enterprise offerings outside of this offer."

Journeyman Geek

;p

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek ?

I can't hyperlink [here]

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: I wanted to test my backup system and try restoring to a smaller drive.

Boris_yo

10:08

@JourneymanGeek SSDs were low cost on Amazon Prime. I think 256GB I saw for $75!

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: I got a good one, not super cheap

then moved my old one to my laptop

Boris_yo

There's also KingFast, KingRich, KingSpec etc. on AliExpress. Why would folks buy such delicated and sensitive storage device from likes of AliExpress? Don't they care about data?

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: If its cheap enough... maybe.

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Is that cheapiness worth data loss?

aliexpress.com/…

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: I back up

Boris_yo

10:13

Not for me unless I use solely for cache or something? ReadyBoost works on it?

Journeyman Geek

in duplicate. I'd do it in triplicate if my linux file share wasn't reliable

Boris_yo

Maybe I could use to for pagefile.sys ALONE?

bertieb

@Boris_yo Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks :D

Boris_yo

Since I have 128GB Intel SSD and DVD-ROM, maybe I should replace DVD-ROM with newer SSD if I get one?

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo got metal "split rings" they are the only things so far i use on my keys that last time, even smaller ones, or combos of a small one to reach the small ring on the device, and a larger split ring one to the main ring. problem with any thing else is tiny ammounts of wear, eventually breaking through.

From the reviews on the "magic string", even it can get wear, or they are using a cheap clone of it. I think it would beat most strings, and bands.

Boris_yo

10:18

@Psycogeek Wear is not bad. Tear is bad. I don't want to lose flash drive.

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: I run an SSD for boot, spinning rust for mass storage, and utterly no optical drives

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Spinning rust?

http://goo.gl/M0Jp4v

http://helpybear.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/20140308-173548.jpg

@Psycogeek

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: HDD ;p

Psycogeek

@Boris_yo And that is just the thing, a weak point on the device itself, may be the weakest thing there. the plastic breaking through on Garage door openers and Car key remotes, and car alarm remotes.

Boris_yo

@Psycogeek The eyelet is made of steel.

Psycogeek

10:23

@Boris_yo and connected to what? soldered to the USB ground casing, or the PCB?

or just in a molded hole in the plastic

@Boris_yo See the tiny string on the sandisk, Gone. a laynard with those tiny strings is a piece of nylon fishing line or small metal line, with braided nylon around it. that style of laynayrd only lasted about 2 months on my flashlight.

Big paracord and bulkey laynard materials are less practical for the small stuff, but you can wear through it 1/2 way and it is still clinging on.

I have one of the smllest micro readers and micro stick in it that exists. and while I would carry it in a pocket, i would never put it on a ring .

Might wear it around my neck :-) geek bling. but i just fear damaging it mostly.

at least with a stick the metal around the USB connect should hold up under much wear. but then you also have those people who said thier USB plastic insulator parts (that plastic piece in the metal) can come loose. add in some pocket lint and all.

the big clunkey stuff can come with caps, or slides out or flips to protect, and has larger tie-on areas. with a smaller cool micro tech stuff, it might want to be treated way better.

@Boris_yo the metal ring on the microlight though will last forever.

user285oo6

10:56

Hi for the yesterdays audio file format it is .cda

Psycogeek

This style (although this one is never used) also broke at the small string. Nice idea and hand hold, and i was expecting any flaw to be where the 2 different materials come together. but it was the small string part that wore and broke.

user285oo6

@JourneymanGeek they are .cda files

Psycogeek

@user285oo6 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Disc_Audio_track Is probably standard CD audio wave file items. the wiki there pointing out that they are pointers only. but none the less it could probably be audio "ripped" because at least some aspect of the CDs are similar to Audio cds that you get an album on (10 years ago:-)

Journeyman Geek

@user285oo6: just use a cd ripper.

DragonLord

11:13

roar

Good morning, everyone.

user285oo6

11:33

@Psycogeek weird vintage still being used.Thanks

@JourneymanGeek ya let me try thanks

Journeyman Geek

hm

Was toying with installing my old GPU as a secondary

1) Its a pain in the arse wedging a second GPU into a case.

2) the 980TI's basically chewing up and spitting out anything I throw at it happily ;p

I'll likely pop it into the old PC, which will be hillarious.

I have as much video ram as system ram if I do that

Psycogeek

So the fact that you keep popping back up, this backup system is working? What backup program again?

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek: veem endpoint backup

but I'm not mucking with the backup system at the moment

I'm mucking around a little with hardware

So far this weekend I've swapped out a gforce 660 for a 980ti, swapped my 840 for a 850 pro, and my laptop hard drive (320gb) for the 840.

I just checked to see if I could install the 660 into my desktop as well but meh

Bob

Got my 850 EVO :D

still gotta wait a week for the other parts to be delivered, though

Journeyman Geek

What other parts?

and oh. Laptop's getting a battery gauge reset so I don't have my second chat window open

@Bob: hm. That's one issue I have at the moment

You can't use the samsung ram caching thing with windows 10

Bob

11:44

@JourneymanGeek SATA PCIe card (gonna move some HDDs over and stick the SSD on the mobo), SATA cables, SATA power cables, 5.25" => 4x 2.5" adapter.

@JourneymanGeek Eh, I wouldn't bother with that anyway.

Journeyman Geek

I want to give it a shot ;p

@Bob: 0_0

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Used to cheat on benchmarks and negligible benefit otherwise.

Journeyman Geek

My mobo has 6 data ports I think

Bob

Same.

Journeyman Geek

One's shared with one of the PCIe ports tho

Bob

11:45

2x SATA3, 4x SATA2.

Journeyman Geek

(course I currently have er.... 2 actual drives and one drive for junk ;p)

Bob

I have two HDDs in SATA2 (OS, RAID1, gonna break the RAID and stick them on SATA2), two HDDs on SATA2, one ODD on SATA2 and one caching SSD on SATA2.

Got an eSATA port not currently connected, too.

The shuffle involves breaking the RAID, sticking the new SSD on SATA3 (and the caching SSD too), moving all HDDs to SATA2...

Journeyman Geek

I basically have the same setup as I did with the DOID

;p

Bob

Maybe move two HDDs over to the PCIe card and keep the ODD on the mobo.

Journeyman Geek

case will take up to 6 drives, tho I'm using one drive bay for screw storage

and 4 5/25 inch drives I have no use for ;p

Bob

11:47

I currently have 18.5TB of raw disk space attached to my desktop.

16.5TB usable.

Journeyman Geek

lol

I think my total available storage is about 7.6/8tb

Bob

@JourneymanGeek My case only has 5 3.5" bays :s

Journeyman Geek

spread out tho

Bob

3 5.25" though

Journeyman Geek

(3tb + 500 gb on the nas, 1tb external, 1tb on the fedora box with a confusing name, 3tb + 256gb on my desktop, 250gb on my laptop)

Bob

11:49

@JourneymanGeek Got another ~4TB in portable HDDs, plus another 2TB across laptop HDDs and another 500MB across mSATA SSDs (in laptops)

Journeyman Geek

(and I am not buying any new hardware until end nov ;p)

Bob

Oh, +500GB with the new SSD too :P

so will be 19TB, 19TB usable (breaking RAID)

Journeyman Geek

There weren't 'impluse' buys but they weren't saved up for the usual way either

Bob

My SSD was sorta-kinda-impulse :\

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

11:51

Looking at either GPU or mobo+CPU+RAM next, but that should wait at least a few months.

Journeyman Geek

the "impulse" here was "I can save up until december, or I can buy it now and offset it against the next couple of months"

lol

If I replace my mobo+cpu+ram, I might as well get a case too, and get rid of my oldest box ;p

(and essentially move nyx over to being the shared box, and make the new box my gaming box, keeping the 980ti, of course)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Yea, I'm thinking about replacing the case+PSU too.

Mostly because I want more HDD bays and a proper PSU :\

But PSU means UPS upgrade too, because new PSU would probably have active PFC :\

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: heh. Yeah, since my PSU is before the new power saving states.

heh. One thing I don't need to worry about

Psycogeek

@JourneymanGeek like we havent heard that before :-) money burn pocket much ?

Journeyman Geek

@Psycogeek: about a grand and half ;p

Well no, 1200ish

This year? about double that so far

Psycogeek

12:11

I am wondering if i could answer about 30 questions with the same thing "so what the freak did you think windows 10 would work like when it first came out, uninstall it and wait 6 months"

(not an answer)

Su is about to get a whole new User Base. As the long term experts who lived with 800 patches and 4 OSes are not going to be Full Time using win10 just now. But a lot of users without Rep, are not budging from 10 at all, working with it only , and discovering all the nuances and tweaks, and fixes via the web.

(generally not applying to everyone)

DragonLord

My laptop's Aptio UEFI firmware doesn't allow me to set the ATA password. Can I set the password under Windows and expect to see a password prompt at boot time, or will the system stop working?

Bob

@DragonLord Anything is possible.

(most laptop OEMs tend to restrict configurable firmware options :\ )

Psycogeek

and there has been a much greater expansion of the OS (via programs) being allowed to communicate and change the hardware (adjustment items) than before. which is kinda strange , as they flip flop from exposing the hardware , to protecting it.

just a few years ago , the answer for "can virus take out hardware" was no way no how. Now i could believe that on my motherboard, they can shut off the fans, jam up the voltage, and change the clock. and i really doubt the motherboard OC software is all that secured.

DragonLord

12:27

Turns out Secure Boot was off again (probably because I had to enable CSM to boot from legacy media a while back). It's been turned back on.

I'd prefer Secure Boot to be on unless it needs to be turned off for some reason.

Peace of mind knowing that the boot path can't be tampered with without my knowledge

Psycogeek

Because UEFI doesnt allow any of that to happen right :-) Depending on if you read the hackers journal or the MS Features list .

10 mins ago, by Bob

@DragonLord Anything is possible.

DragonLord

Whatever.

Too many compatibility issues to deal with.

I'm not going to bother with whole-disk encryption.

Select external media are still encrypted (it's easier to lose an external hard drive or flash drive than a whole laptop).

The external hard drive with my file history on it is encrypted with BitLocker, for example.

Psycogeek

Encryption scares me, hard enough to access data when something goes wrong. Lukily i have no corporate secrets or activity i need to keep prying eyes from seeing.

DragonLord

(WD My Passport drives are in fact self-encrypting but using this functionality requires special software, which is not acceptable as I'd prefer native compatibility)

Psycogeek

12:44

So it was very interesting to read what you and bob were saying about , whatever read only compatabilty stuff to be able to get stuff back off when things go badly.

DragonLord

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Q: How does BitLocker to Go leave an unencrypted file (BitLocker to Go Reader) that is readable by Windows XP or Windows Vista without extra software?

BitLocker to Go volumes are fully supported on Windows 7 and later. For compatibility with systems running Windows XP or Windows Vista, a utility called BitLocker to Go Reader is provided to enable read-only access to the volume on these older systems. The BitLocker to Go Reader, bitlockertogo.e...

windows encryption compatibility disk-encryption bitlocker

Psycogeek

"if you lose your password your data is gone. Forever. There is NO recovery." like I lose my keys :-) i have forgot my dog once at a gas station and drove off. 30 minutes later we make it back and he is looking at me like "WTF were you thinking arsehole"

I keep my array of passwords on a paper, because 1 year later logging back into Sony.com like who is going to remember that?

DragonLord

Acer is not a brand you'd normally associate with gaming systems, but their new Predator machines are loaded to the teeth with cutting-edge technology: us.acer.com/ac/en/US/press/2015/162326

Acer jumped onboard the Skylake bandwagon as soon as it was announced, a bit unusual for a PC brand normally associated with mainstream hardware.

(They do make nice monitors—my 21.5" IPS display is an Acer, and it's not bad at all especially for the price)

Bob

@DragonLord ...unless an attacker gains kernel-mode within the OS, from where they can update efi vars, overwrite the OS side of the bootloader, or just mess up the OS in general :P

DragonLord

i7-6700K (Skylake 4C/8T, 4.0 GHz + Turbo), GTX 980, and 64 GB (!) of DDR4 RAM.

Bob

12:56

@DragonLord Depends on what threats you're facing.

FDE is against a physical threat.

DragonLord

I know FDE doesn't protect the drive's data while in use. It protects against data theft should the drive be lost.

18 mins ago, by DragonLord

Select external media are still encrypted (it's easier to lose an external hard drive or flash drive than a whole laptop).

As I said, my File History external hard drive is BitLocker encrypted.

> The Acer Predator G6-710 desktop PC will be available mid-September in Europe with prices starting at €1,999, and from October in North America with pricing and configurations announced at that time.

Ouch. That's about US$2200.

Psycogeek

2200 until you add all the extras , and the

DragonLord

Then again, this is supposed to be a brand-new Skylake machine with loads of RAM and storage and a fast video card.

Psycogeek

DragonLord

I know.

The laptop I'm using right now was $2174 at build time and has another $575 worth of aftermarket upgrades (most of which is in SSDs, along with an extra 16 GB of RAM).

Psycogeek

13:01

I just checked yesterday and US $ vs the english pound thing was 1Us to 1.55 EU

DragonLord

EU prices are typically a bit higher than US prices even after considering the exchange rate.

In practice, the US price is only slighty higher (numerically speaking) than the EU price.

Psycogeek

I am still trying to figure out why 1 MS home licecene is 100$ and still 100Eu As stated by some poeple , identifying the price as high. When i thought it was cheap.

ToolPurger

I'm trying to work out why people license windows at all

WTF

It looks like you're trying to work out why people license windows at all.

Would you like help? <-- paperclip popup

DragonLord

I'd rather stay legit. I would get a full Windows license (not OEM, full retail) if I'm building a PC. It's what the EULA stipulates.

Expensive, yes, but it's the best way to go.

Bob

> 1 Australian Dollar equals 0.74 US Dollar

:(

DragonLord

13:06

I know it's US$200 for a Windows 10 Pro license, but that's generally budgeted for and is not really an issue.

Bob

@ToolPurger Because to do otherwise is immoral? Depends on your morals of course.

Back in a bit.

ToolPurger

@Bob I didn't mean pirate windows

Bob

Unless you mean going with a different OS. In which case, it's preference.

ToolPurger

I guess I'm just lucky, I can't go back

Lol WTF

My tablet gets a forbidden when I access a website.

Sorry guys, nice to meet you. I saw this room and thought "why not join"

Psycogeek

@DragonLord if everything they are buying is simlar priced, but the exchange rate is wacked different. are we missing an oppertunity here to make 30% of everything :-)

@ToolPurger yes why not. Cause now i need your great math skills, calculate the GDP of all of europe subtract the exchange rate , and add in the percentage charged when exchanging money, and tell me how rich i should be.

ToolPurger

13:22

I'm from maths not physics, or accounting.

I deal mainly with letters.

Psycogeek

Anyone who can read 1/2 of what they ever write there at mathmatics , Respect :-)

ToolPurger

Yeah, my hand writing is pretty poor :P

But on a serious note my dream job has nothing to do with Maths.

My dream job is to be an Emerald Guard on Takeshi's Castle, Wrestling Asians in the honeycomb maze.

Psycogeek

I mean all the formulas, reminds me of a high school algebra nightmare.

$\lim_{z\to 0}|z|^{\sqrt 2}f(z)=0$ <--proof of aliens

ToolPurger

@Psycogeek ....

Are you

Psycogeek

Who is that guy, I only know his Memed self

ToolPurger

13:37

From what I understand @Psycogeek he is convinced that both the light in the fridge and tissue popping up when you pull out a tissue is caused directly by aliens.

Psycogeek

well so much for the matching image search :-)

ToolPurger

If that was mirrored, it'd be brilliant

DragonLord

I'm encrypting my main flash drive right now.

Compatibility was initially an issue, but that's no longer being considered. I have other drives if I need to transfer data to a system that does not support BitLocker to Go.

As I said, it's easier to lose external media than the whole laptop.

ToolPurger

Lol

Journeyman Geek

14:21

@ToolPurger: That's clearly a centauri

DragonLord

Another Intel HD Graphics TDR.

Stupid video driver is so buggy on Windows 10.

HackToHell

14:56

The damn game bar is also bloody buggy

And it crashes the entire graphics stack

Have to reboot

allquixotic

16:43

@JourneymanGeek <3

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