Root Access

Michael Frank

00:09

@Bob heh... I feel like that around here quite a bit.

Journeyman Geek

00:21

lol

snipe

01:39

help

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Q: How do I back up my SSD?

My laptops' master boot record is messed up, the drive had windows 10 on it , I cannot boot to windows; So now I really want to just back up my documents that were on windows 10, it's too much data for my 16GB USB stick. Id like to back it up inside of a GUI so I don't miss anything, I have a des...

Journeyman Geek

03:05

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/razer-blade-egpu-bios-mod-pcie-3-0-lid-mod-power-button-mod.773520/
this is really neat

Michael Frank

images don't load here at work. :(((

Journeyman Geek

:/

Bob

@JourneymanGeek s/neat/rubegoldbergish/

Journeyman Geek

@snipe: You can probably still do a readonly mount on linux

Bob

At that point just get a desktop :\

Journeyman Geek

03:11

@Bob: very!

(also, I'd blame XP for this. hybrid gpt/mbr installs are supposed to be fragile)

Bob

once you try to install XP, it's not hybrid anything

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

XP has approximately zero support for GPT

the only reason hybrid MBR/GPT exists is to boot GPT with legacy firmware, which is a stupid idea in itself - but that's got little to do with other OSes

but quite aside from that, this is a terribly misguided attempt to install XP on modern hardware, and attempting to install it in parallel to a modern OS

could've told you from the start it wasn't going to end well

Journeyman Geek

didn't we?

Michael Frank

Pretty sure it's still starred...

Bob

03:18

the only good reason to install XP now is to run legacy software that won't work in a modern OS for whatever reason (typically, because it's old enough to be 16-bit) - and those will run just fine in a VM, and you won't even notice the overhead (minor as it is in the age of hardware virtualisation)

heck, with a halfway-decent hypervisor, it's most likely more stable than trying to hammer in drivers not designed with that OS in mind

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: or the old hairy chestnut - some wierd old hardware ;p

Bob

drivers are by definition very low-level kernel-mode code, and often makes assumptions about kernel behaviour (in addition to being able to completely stuff up the OS, and cause all sorts of stability issues if anything goes wrong)

Journeyman Geek

03:42

imgur.com/gallery/pAjUMI2

snipe

vm software fails in win 10

ive said that

Journeyman Geek

well, it is a prerelease I guess.

snipe

win 10 os crap as is i u and vista

i cant see what im typing with this chat

Journeyman Geek

Here's the problem. You've got stuff you want on 1) a prelease OS. 2) are running an obsolete OS as well.

snipe

I bet windows i sucks forsupporting apps

Journeyman Geek

03:52

windows i?

Bob

So you're the kind of guy who doesn't read warnings and instructions.

> Remember, trying out an early build like this can be risky. That's why we recommend that you don't install the preview on your primary home or business PC. Unexpected PC crashes could damage or even delete your files, so you should back up everything.

snipe

is there another way to chat here

its not my fault win 8 and 7 suck it was the only option

linix or 10

I tried linux it sucked

Journeyman Geek

heh. I run 7 and 8. Both are fine.

Bob

^

snipe

but not for me

I already tried 10 on a test pc

Bob

03:58

Architecturally, Vista was a massive leap forward, and 7 and 8 have improved on that.

snipe

it was ok

Bob

The theme has changed, but if you really must you can retheme it.

snipe

i tried that and it didnt work

f8 doesnt work

apps and games dont run

Michael Frank

Apps and games run great on 7, 8, and probably 10.

However that's very dependant on what apps and games you mean.

snipe

thats not what ive seen

maybe if it wasnt for that efi crap it would have let me install 7

Journeyman Geek

04:05

If you can install XP, you can install 7 in most cases.

snipe

I still cant boot to xp

unless I remove the efi drive

thats how the stupid bootmgr got messed up

whats wrong with boot. ini

why do I need efi

wheres the net

Journeyman Geek

hm. If its minor MBR borkedness, testdisk might help

snipe

04:31

gonna have to leave - cant type on this stupid phone

Journeyman Geek

you do have the site in mobile mode. right?

(or get chatsey if you're on android)

snipe

yes

the keyboard covers the chat box

I hate phones

hell I might just stop using one all together

its possible

Journeyman Geek

sure.

snipe

how do ai ude a computer at night though

use a computer at night

Journeyman Geek

touch type, or a backlit keyboard, or a usb flexyneck LED ;p

snipe

04:36

hate touchtype

I mean device wise

Journeyman Geek

touch typing is real typing

not that swiping around a on screen keyboard ;p

snipe

its a pain in the ass

i want something small with a hardware keyboard

Journeyman Geek

or just get a BT keyboard. MS is supposed to be releasing a really nice folding one soon

snipe

tried a bt keyboard, cant use them lying down

Journeyman Geek

picky picky ;p

snipe

04:41

yeah Its a hard need

we need a pc that is a proper pc where we can walk around usint it

using it

with a desktop OS

Journeyman Geek

sure. There's windows tablets. I use a 11 inch netbook for the same reason

snipe

you cant use a netbook while walking

or laying down

Journeyman Geek

picky picky. Sure you can.

snipe

how

Journeyman Geek

or a windows tablet.

;p

Its pretty lightweight and runs cool

snipe

04:48

how would you type lying down

Journeyman Geek

._.

put the laptop down in front of you and type?

snipe

its a tabket

Journeyman Geek

with a keyboard!

snipe

gtg bbl

Journeyman Geek

07:11

@Bob: apparently my stuff got delivered ;p

0

Q: Bad sectors on Disk

There are multiple bad sectors on my Hard disk, as the message is shown. I want to reinstall OS on the disk. Is it possible to do the same. If yes whats the process which needs to be followed.

linux

I don't get why someone would do this, if you cared the slightest bit about your data

XKCD

07:31

We all remember those famous first words spoken by an astronaut on the surface of Mars: "That's one small step fo- HOLY SHIT LOOK OUT IT'S GOT SOME KIND OF DRILL! Get back to the ... [unintelligible] ... [signal lost]"

Bob

O_O

@JourneymanGeek apparently Xiaomi has new headphones coming out soon: mi.com/huosai

Journeyman Geek

those look slick

They apparently have open back, over ears planned too

Bob

@JourneymanGeek thetecholic.com/new-xiaomi-ear-headphones-announced-usd-16

hm

must... resist... temptation

Journeyman Geek

07:47

lol

I'm good for now, I have 2 good pairs, one tolerable one, and proper headphones ;p

Bob

They're available (pre-order, which is weird) for $22 AUD here

@JourneymanGeek Have you tried it?

Journeyman Geek

they do look really nice.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'm surprised they make no mention of beryllium after all the fuss before :P

Journeyman Geek

;p, yeah

Bob

> our unique innovative metal composite piston diaphragm headphones for millet, and in order to make the metal diaphragm in the middle and low-frequency performance is better, using a "sandwich" design: two outer using PET material layer, middle layer aerospace metal material, such a structure designed to bring maximum benefit is a more extended treble detail, and because PET has a soft, flexible material properties, but also greatly ensures the mellow strong and powerful bass tones

That seems a really flowery way to say "we wanted to save some money" :P

Journeyman Geek

07:50

That seems new to me. Two layered diaphragms?

rofl

Bob

idk, it's machine translated

translate.google.com/…

Journeyman Geek

No, It does show a 2 layered diaphram, which is odd. usually its just one layer of really thin material

Bob

I find it really weird that they use a screw in it O_O

Journeyman Geek

yup. and its so prominant, whem its holding a decorative element in place

Bob

lol that freq response chart

of course Beats has the crazy bass boost -_-

@JourneymanGeek that seems like the ideal place to just use a bit of glue

Journeyman Geek

07:53

@Bob: IKR?

Bob

especially because the screw head faces inwards

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

waiiiiit

that pic of the mic

It looks like the mic is higher up (not at the split)

:D

Journeyman Geek

I thought that was normal?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The previous Pistons put the mic at the split

So it hangs a bit under your chin instead of next to your mouth

I don't know of any other manufacturer that does that.

Yup! :D

Journeyman Geek

07:56

Oh, the creatives put it way up at one split.

Bob

Journeyman Geek

(but I don't use the headset much anyway

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ... one split?

I mean the pistons had it at the place where the two wires split off

Journeyman Geek

one side of the split.

damn, those do look nice ;p

Bob

> Against unreasonable ear canal size, comes with three pacifiers grade silicone material sleeves (XS / S / L), effective help you sink invasion in music.

Gotta love machine translation :P

Journeyman Geek

07:58

SINK INVASION IN MUSIC.

Bob

>  1 hour fast repair service
 7 days no reason to return
 15-day free replacement
Free shipping over 150 yuan 
 more than 520 sale outlets

Wow.

I really want a proper Xiaomi store here :(

Journeyman Geek

~~Some~~ all of their stuff seems insanely cheap for what they are ;p

and build quality is actually pretty good on my mom's phone

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Possibly subsidised by Chinese gov, but meh

Journeyman Geek

@Bob and spychips! ;p

Bob

08:13

@JourneymanGeek Methinks headphones and chargers are safe-ish

Journeyman Geek

(I really do think they have low costs, and are trying to get market share via lower prices + smartish marketing)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Don't forget the direct retail.

Retail markups can often be > 50%

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: we didn't get mom's phone direct retail, we got it off the phone company, recontracted. I was thinking the RRP

Journeyman Geek

09:35

That was hillarious. My boss is convinced we had my probation interview (That's in another 3 months) and that I was out of probation ;p

(I'm like whaaa?)

bummi

10:08

Why are some users not nuked after posting spam, others are, for the same kind of spam. Is it depending on the kind of deletion (Community), should further action bee taken is one user is spamming two days in follow without getting nuked?

Journeyman Geek

who?

Gone. The user's posts were community deleted, rather than mod deleted, so no one saw it.

bummi

@JourneymanGeek OK, thanks, should an other be added in cases like this?

Journeyman Geek

naw. Its an edge case ;p

bummi

OK, thanks ... cu

Journeyman Geek

There's two things worth considering - one is the automatic spam block engine (which is learning from this), and you can always let us know about stuff like this ;p

bummi

10:22

the problem with the Spyhunter spams is that they are always hidden in a second layer with different sites, I'm collecting chat.meta.stackexchange.com/…

Journeyman Geek

That happens pretty often now, they're catching on ;p

I reported a spammer who used a sourceforce page as a landing page.

bummi

many of them in the last days, on different SE Sites

Journeyman Geek

ya. and they prolly have multiple accounts. We occationally need to get hold of other site mods or staff for stuff like that.

bummi

I hope we'll get the Spam Flag with comment soon, sometimes it's hard to flag without ability to say why using other is not loved everywhere

Journeyman Geek

Oh. I THINK you can use "other", add a comment, then switch back to a spam flag.

bummi

10:28

@JourneymanGeek mhhhmm, IIRC I tried this ON SO and the "other" was handled hours later

Bob

12:13

@JourneymanGeek My end of probation turned into... actually, absolutely nothing happened.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: The joke being, my boss was convinced the interview had happened

Journeyman Geek

12:47

@Bob: the volume controls on the headphones don't work on the moto G

HackToHell

Hey @jokerdino how are things going with Dota 2?

Bob

13:15

@JourneymanGeek :(

@JourneymanGeek Does the mic work?

> Sorry that it took so long, but I have an official response now: The Moto G does not support 3 button headsets.

o.O

That seems like a really weird design decision.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: it should? ;p

I NEVER use the mic

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Basically, no headset's volume controls will work on your phone...

Journeyman Geek

Yeah ;p

(Oh well, planning on getting a new phone next year)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Dammit, the Clevo laptop has separate headphone and mic ports :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

I have a splitter

Bob

13:26

@JourneymanGeek I have splitters going the other way :\

(male trrs female trs)

Journeyman Geek

My creatives came with a trrs to 2x trs

Bob

...wat ebay.com.au/itm/…

wtf is that

I struggle to think of a use.

Journeyman Geek

0_0

IIRC some devices use a TRRS jack as USB

Bob

o.o

Wouldn't that be... pretty shit?

Journeyman Geek

2

A: 3.5mm type custom USB connector

Some consumer electronic devices have occasionally used 3.5mm TRRS to USB connectors. For instance, the LG A155 mobile phone and several older MP3 players do this. The most commonly used pin-out (iPod Shuffle 2G, Dolphin Swimmer MP3 player, Samsung YP-F1) is (source): Tip --> D- Ring1 --> D+ R...

yup but... erm

I struggle to find a sensible reason for that ;p

Bob

13:30

@JourneymanGeek I guess before Mini/MicroUSB

But... noisy :(

36

Q: Why aren't headphone jack shaped plugs used for data?

With Apple's lightning cable, and USB 3.0, reversible cables are taking off, and I personally think this is very convenient. But we have had better than reversible for a long time, in the form of the headphone jack, which can be inserted in any direction, not just 2 directions. Why isn't a headph...

communication connector cables

Journeyman Geek

or they wanted to save a few cents on a port

Bob

No idea what this is for, either: ebay.com.au/itm/…

And this too scansound.com/index.php/…

Journeyman Geek

Oh

apparently some devices don't work with TRRS connectors

Bob

:\

Journeyman Geek

(kinda rare, but someone mentioned it in head-fi's piston thread)

Bob

13:45

> Posting to: Worldwide

> Doesn't post to Sydney Metro

> Excludes: Adelaide Metro, Brisbane Metro, Melbourne Metro, Northern Territory, NSW Regional, Perth Metro, QLD Far North, QLD Regional, QLD South East, SA Regional, Sydney Metro, Tasmania, VIC Regional, WA Regional, WA Remote, Africa, Central America and Caribbean, Oceania, Southeast Asia, Bermuda, Greenland, Mexico, Saint Pierre and Miquelon, United States, Albania, Andorra, Austria, Belarus, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of, Cyprus, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Gibraltar, Greece, Guernsey, Hungary, Iceland, Italy, Jersey, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxe…

aka "worldwide but actually nowhere"

Journeyman Geek

;p

where does he actually ship to then?

Bob

(notice it excludes Oceania, the US, SE Asia, just about every European country...)

Journeyman Geek

Oh, funny thing with the box for the mi powerpack...

its made in "Mainland China"

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Funnily enough? Looks like Russia isn't excluded.

No idea why it turned up on my search, though.

ebay.com.au/itm/…

Journeyman Geek

cause it dosen't say excludes australia

Bob

13:47

Here's an identical item that does post here: ebay.com.au/itm/…

(odd that the mic is a TRS, not TS...)

@JourneymanGeek it excludes Sydney Metro and Oceania, though

and ebay is smart enough to tell me that when I try to buy it

Journeyman Geek

But not australia!

You could order it from say...

Christmas Island

The Territory of Christmas Island is a territory of Australia in the Indian Ocean. It has a population of 2,072 residents who live in a number of "settlement areas" on the northern tip of the island: Flying Fish Cove (also known as Kampong), Silver City, Poon Saan, and Drumsite. The majority of the population are Chinese Australian. It is called "Christmas Island" because it was discovered on Christmas Day (25 December 1643). The island's geographic isolation and history of minimal human disturbance has led to a high level of endemism among its flora and fauna, which is of interest to scientists...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ebay knows I'm in Sydney. That's where the "Doesn't post to Sydney Metro" comes from

@JourneymanGeek Also, that's under Oceania

And I'm not sure there's even mail services there.

Journeyman Geek

;p

(it dosen't? Damn it, you need to take care of our one former colony better!)

Journeyman Geek

14:22

hm

pistons sound good through my nicer gear

(and they pass the VW test ;p)

allquixotic

I have a question; I think I know the answer but I'll ask anyway

Bob

@allquixotic Do I need to !!meta you? :P

@JourneymanGeek VW test?

Ok... looking for an external DVD drive. There's two Samsung ones, SE-218GN and SE-208GB, both available on Amazon, that seem to be nearly identical... wtf

allquixotic

Spotify on Note 4 -> analog 3.5" connector (TRRS) -> two cables, one for mic and one for stereo audio -> Steelseries H Wireless base station, which is an amp and a wireless transmitter to the headphones.

is it better to turn volume down in Android and max out the base station volume, or max out Android's volume and set the volume down to a comfortable level on the base station?

in terms of audio quality

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: the album version of a specific indica track has the sound of a VW bust starting.

Bob

@allquixotic The former, as long as it doesn't clip... in which case, the latter :P

Journeyman Geek

14:26

its what I use as a quick check to whether my headphones are acceptable

Bob

@JourneymanGeek OH THAT ONE LOL

Journeyman Geek

can't find that version on youtube.

Bob

:(

You linked it before.

Name of the song?

Journeyman Geek

Valokeilojen Vampyyri

Bob

364

A: From a quality perspective, what is better: turning volume up in the software, in the OS, or on the speakers?

Program vs. OS generally doesn't matter. What matters is whether you're adjusting volume in software or in hardware. Reducing volume in software is basically equivalent to reducing the bit depth. In digital audio, the signal is split up into distinct samples (taken thousands of times per second)...

really depends on how your phone implements "100%" though

@JourneymanGeek has the engine starting => youtube.com/watch?v=QknrV7DOrfc

allquixotic

14:29

@Bob really? I thought you're supposed to max the digital volume because lowering volume in digital is equivalent to reducing the number of bits of information

digital volume attenuation is like digitally resizing an image to a smaller resolution, IIRC

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: I tend to max out the source, and control volume at the last stage I can

Bob

@allquixotic That's assuming the device considers "max" to be without boosting

Journeyman Geek

but you'll likely need dog hearing to tell the difference ;p

allquixotic

@Bob I'm pretty sure the Android volume sliders don't boost.

Bob

@allquixotic Unless it's HTC :P

Journeyman Geek

14:31

@allquixotic: practically controlling the volume on your headphones is easier ;p

Bob

> The SE-218GN measures 148.6 x 14 x 146 mm / 5.85 x 0.55 x 5.76 inches. The SE-208GB is a bit thicker but not as wide, at 148 x 14.4 x 143 mm / 5.82 x 0.56 x 5.62 inches.

That seems to be the only difference

wtf

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: funny thing is that little clip is so... simple that it sounds about the same on any source.

I think I bought my M50s based off that and my ipod, and the very first thing I tried on my fishers was that on my nicer audio gear

allquixotic

ahh... also, when I lower the android volume and max the base station volume, I hear an audible static near the top of the frequency domain.. it's a very low volume white noise

the volume is VERY low but still noticeable, and I hear it in quiet passages of music

Journeyman Geek

oh, that happens sometimes

allquixotic

when I max out the android volume and turn down the base station volume to about 75%, it's fine

Journeyman Geek

14:37

heh, I forgot that most of my proper setup has volume knobs ._.

allquixotic

so the unattenuated digital PCM data gets sent to the DAC, and the DAC transmits it at full quality and full "voltage" I guess in its analog form

Bob

amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Ultra-Thin-SE-208GB-RSBD/dp/… amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-Ultra-Slim-SE-218GN-RSBD/dp/… is the difference just a bloody different finish on it? O_O

Journeyman Geek

lol

allquixotic

then the base station picks it up as analog, digitally attenuates it a bit, and transmits it over their proprietary wireless protocol

Journeyman Geek

maybe?

allquixotic

14:40

442

Q: From a quality perspective, what is better: turning volume up in the software, in the OS, or on the speakers?

If music isn't loud enough, how do I get the best quality (even if the difference is in fact so small it's negligible)? By making the music louder in my music player, game or other sound-producing software program? By raising the volume at the operating system level (for instance, by clicking t...

audio music

> Attenuating a signal is done by multiplying each sample by a number less than one, with the result being that you're no longer using the full resolution to describe the audio, resulting in reduced dynamic range and signal-to-noise ratio. Specifically, every 6 dB of attenuation is equivalent to reducing the bit depth by one. If you started with, say, 16-bit audio (standard for audio CDs) and reduced the volume by 12 dB, you'd effectively be listening to 14-bit audio instead.

HackToHell

facebook.com/video.php?v=10153098860532200

allquixotic

14:58

Android's internal audio processing pipeline is 16-bit as of Kitkat, but increases to 24 bit in Lollipop

ANOTHER reason to want Lollipop, which simply seems to be delayed forever and ever by Shitsung

Oliver Salzburg

This is really messing with my day O__o

Bob

@allquixotic Actually, not really that great a reason.

There are other reasons, yea, but 32-bit audio isn't all that significant.

allquixotic

@Bob well if the noise floor of a 32-bit audio path (with a supporting DAC, of course) is better than the noise floor of the base station of my H Wireless, it's a net benefit

well, great... AT&T is rolling out the Note 4 Lollipop upgrade now.

AT&T, the most conservative, anti-consumer carrier in the US.

and Verizon is still completely silent on it.

Bob

@allquixotic Whoops, s/32-bit/24-bit/

allquixotic

15:13

yeah

Canadian Luke

16:40

I have always begged my boss to install a backdoor that activates when a pirated product key is detected, so that we have a popup at the development to browse the users computer and change and delete stuff. He always declined it because we could not afford to employ so many people to handle all these popups... — PlasmaHH 6 hours ago

allquixotic

16:53

@CanadianLuke backdoors are bad! even when they're used to fight piracy

Canadian Luke

I agree. I just liked the comment

Oliver Salzburg

20:11

insight-labs.org/?p=1682 - it.slashdot.org/story/15/03/27/1420250/…

2

Crazy shit :P

DragonLord

21:22

Baidu probably would not do this willingly.

...as in "you install this JS script or you're arrested"

Okay, this looks like an MITM

Oliver Salzburg

@DragonLord This issue has affected us greatly as we host our sources on GitHub and many of our dependencies are hosted with them

It showed us how fragile our whole deployment process is, if GitHub is under attack

And, of course, today we had a major release which was delayed due to this issue

Journeyman Geek

21:54

theverge.com/2015/3/27/8299325/…

allquixotic

23:14

@OliverSalzburg mirror on bitbucket?

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic We have that already

But our CI is set up with GitHub and changing that is cumbersome

Also, we pull a lot of bower dependencies during deployment. These are pulled from GitHub 95% of the time

We have analyzed those dependencies today and are aware of the problem and the possible solutions (which require work we originally wanted to avoid by using GitHub)

The thing is, if GitHub is having issues, we'd probably be better off by using a mirror or our own infrastructure. But if we would have similar issues on our own server, we probably would not be prepared for it as well as GitHub is

So it's a bit of a pickle

allquixotic

hmm

Oliver Salzburg

I discussed this briefly in the JavaScript room on SO today and people basically told me to not host critical shit on GitHub and mirror your dependencies

Which makes perfect sense to me

But doing so requires resources

And those really don't compare to paying $100 for a GitHub account

But, yeah, I guess there simply is no easy and cheap solution if you want quality

allquixotic

github is pretty damn close to being perfect with uptime, so don't blame them when China decides to be a dick

Oliver Salzburg

23:30

@allquixotic I don't. But our clients don't care about that and they don't understand it either. They only understand that we're not able to deploy updates for their service

We're always transparent about stuff like this, but, in the end, they don't care. They want the service they paid for and I don't think they're wrong

But there is one thing I really like. The more we grow, the easier it is to take care of last years problems. But todays problems get harder all the time

Good times! :D

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