Root Access

DragonLord

00:00

My VPS has lots of unused capacity, but I don't want to disrupt my blog.

ekaj

I doubt it would do that

just guessing honestly though, how much unused capacity you talkin?

bmende

maybe I can add a point bounty, I have a 150 points

DragonLord

More than 95% of capacity unused.

ekaj

i would just go 50 if you do bmende :) and capacity is kinda specific to the original specs anyways @DragonLord :p 95% of your RAM free isn't much when ya only have 100 megs to begin with

DragonLord

2 GB of RAM.

It's a Linode 2GB VPS.

Two CPU cores, Ivy Bridge-EP.

ekaj

00:03

ah, I've heard good things about linode, I've been using OVH and EC2 myself so far

DragonLord

About 1.6 GB available.

ekaj

I'd say you'd be fine, but you'd have to talk to one of the guys who wrote it to be sure, or just run a quick 5 min spot check test

bmende

@ekaj I think I'm going all-in on this one :)

ekaj

@DragonLord chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/11540/charcoal-hq

good luck :) if it's unsolved and I have more free time to actually look at it better I'll check it out

Seth

@DragonLord I wouldn't be the person to ask, @Undo would be, he hosts the shared instance.

I doubt it will greatly effect your blog though.

DragonLord

00:09

The big question is how much CPU does it use.

bmende

ha ok, is anyone going to be upset about a duplicate question posted?

ekaj

ah i forgot about that already, i wouldn't post if it's a duplicate quetion, maybe just offer a bounty on the original and post a comment

bmende

Can i offer a bounty on a question that I didn't post? Bc it's on a different acc

or perhaps i could transfer points or something...

Journeyman Geek

you can't transfer points. you definitely can offer a bounty on someone elses question.

bmende

awesomeeee i'll give it atry

Journeyman Geek

00:15

waaaait

Seth

@DragonLord You realize you can just use Undo's instance right? That powers every instance running currently..

Journeyman Geek

FIRST. Use the contact us link to ask for the accounts to merge

Seth

Save you some CPU usage ;)

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord: maybe shove it in its own channel?

DragonLord

That's already planned.

Journeyman Geek

00:15

I'd sorta prefer not to have it on RA personally cause noise.

DragonLord

I'm testing it in PQA&T first.

Journeyman Geek

@bmende: I'm not completely awake but you should ask for an account merger.

DragonLord

in Post Quality Advice and Tips, 7 mins ago, by DragonLord

Be advised: I may be testing a SmokeDetector instance here. Please stand by.

A new chat room will be created for SmokeDetector.

bmende

@JourneymanGeek oh ok

so i guess i'll try to find contact us

Journeyman Geek

main site bottom right.

ekaj

00:18

gg journeymangeek

bmende

ok found it

Do i need to wait until the acc are merged to do the bounty>

?

ekaj

I don't think so. You can go ahead and do the bounty, it will use up the # of points you specified, and then when the merger completes your points from both accounts will be added.

bmende

ok sweet ty

actually don't see the 'start a bounty' link on that question strange, maybe i need to wait

ekaj

You have to wait 2 days to start a bounty - so another 30 hours unfortunately

bmende

ahhh I see ok nice

ekaj

00:24

stackoverflow.com/help/bounty

bmende

im noob ha

ekaj

i forgot that too, don't feel bad =p

had to do the google

bmende

:)

DragonLord

New account created.

DragonLord's SmokeDetector

1 2

ekaj

are you a student dragon?

Undo

00:42

@DragonLord very very little, and we're running every instance (not really, it's all one bot, just in multiple rooms) that I know of on the network on my server.

But I have to ask, any specific reason not to just add your room/config to mine?

ekaj

@undo must be @JourneymanGeek's brother

Undo

@ekaj Not possible, brothers can't mod a site together for very long :P

ekaj

true.. I could see that causing problems =p

Journeyman Geek

01:06

Nope, he's not. He's a fellow sr mod tho

ekaj

darn, two dog mods and not brothers, what are the chances

DragonLord

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A: Can you ever lose saved information from a bad hibernation/boot on Windows?

You shouldn't lose information already stored on the disk. However, a write-back cache might explain this. A write-back cache increases performance by placing data to be written to disk into a memory area and deferring the actual writing onto the disk to a later time for performance. However, ap...

Can someone upvote this to give the account 20 reputation?

Journeyman Geek

@ekaj very high. SE has a few canine mods 🐕

ekaj

darn, the felines need to make a comeback

anarchy

and bad spelling too apparently

DragonLord

@JourneymanGeek, any suggestions?

Is anyone around?

Undo

01:28

@DragonLord What room will the bot run in?

we can just add it to write list instead of relying on reputation

DragonLord

Haven't decided yet. I'll be using chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/19572/post-quality-advice-and-tips for testing.

Journeyman Geek suggested a dedicated room for it.

Undo

@DragonLord done

DragonLord

I'll be creating a dedicated room for the bot shortly.

Undo

ping me / another blue person when you do

DragonLord

Bot's not entering the room. Any ideas?

It worked on my main account.

Undo

01:39

@DragonLord using the right creds?

DragonLord

Yes as far as I can tell.

Undo

what's Python telling you?

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek whoa emoji

Undo

there should be a bunch of stuff in the console

DragonLord

It's just telling me CI Socket Created and some seemingly normal output

GlobalVars.specialrooms = [{
                           "sites": ["superuser.com"],
                           "room": GlobalVars.wrap.get_room("19572"),
                           "unwantedReasons": []
                           }]

HackToHell

01:40

Bot runs on Python now ?

I thought it was simply a js injection

Undo

@DragonLord You need to set the primary room to your room

it's trying to talk in CHQ but it doesn't have permissions

github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…

and remove everything in specialrooms, no use having it try to post to rooms it can't get to

@HackToHell this one's more robust, designed to be run headless on a server

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: nice thing about chat on a phone ;p

Amusingly my work box can't render it.

DragonLord

@Undo ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'meta.stackexchange.com'

Did the requested steps

Undo

@DragonLord Paste the full error?

DragonLord

ValueError: invalid literal for int() with base 10: 'meta.stackexchange.com'
2015-02-25 01:52:03.528005 UTC
  File "ws.py", line 84, in <module>
    GlobalVars.tavern_on_the_meta.join()

  File "/home/dragonlord/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/rooms.py", line 47, in join
    return self._client._join_room(self.id)

  File "/home/dragonlord/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/client.py", line 258, in _join_room
    self._br.join_room(room_id)

  File "/home/dragonlord/SmokeDetector/ChatExchange/chatexchange/browser.py", line 253, in join_room

Only change in ws.py is making the SpecialRooms dictionary empty.

Undo

01:53

right

it's trying to login to chat.mse and it can't

Delete L44 and 60 in github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/ws.py#L44

might complain when it tries to send messages to a null room, but we'll see

DragonLord

Done. Trying again.

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'join'
2015-02-25 01:55:21.638300 UTC
  File "ws.py", line 84, in <module>
    GlobalVars.tavern_on_the_meta.join()

Undo

oh right

L84 needs to go too

DragonLord

Lines were commented out, not deleted.

Undo

shouldn't matter

DragonLord

Okay, trying again.

AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'watch_socket'
2015-02-25 01:56:20.397626 UTC
  File "ws.py", line 87, in <module>
    GlobalVars.tavern_on_the_meta.watch_socket(watcher)

Commented out L87 as well.

Undo

01:56

yeah

DragonLord

Okay, it seems to work.

Undo

not posting to the room, though

it should do that on boot

DragonLord

This code really needs to be better documented.

Undo

prolly, but we don't exactly have many resources

Bob

02:21

@Undo designed to be headless? Hmm. I might look into porting Cavil if I ever get time :P

DragonLord

02:57

Would "Dragon's Eye" be a good name for the bot?

DragonLord

03:21

@Undo: Problem seems to be that it's hardcoded to use the Tavern.

Undo

@DragonLord you should be able to just balete those lines

DragonLord

I restored those lines and changed the Meta site to chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/19572/post-quality-advice-and-tips

Still no messages.

Okay, had to use first_start

Okay...

in Post Quality Advice and Tips, 20 secs ago, by DragonLord's SmokeDetector

@DragonLord'sSmokeDetector Of course

Whatever, I give up.

I'm deleting the extra account.

Journeyman Geek

03:52

oooooooh

tomshardware.com/news/…

DragonLord

04:08

Guess that was a bit of a learning experience.

I might just learn how to write my own chatbot in the future.

Back to the usual reviews.

Stack Exchange

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Q: Why is the moderator diamond so big?

If you take a look here, you'll notice that the badge is much bigger than the username itself (and it is a joke but used to hide the actual name). I have also noticed that the diamond is a bigger font size than the username as well. I'd suggest we just keep it the same size as the username. Wha...

feature-request

XKCD

05:01

Little-known fact: The 'Dawn of Man' opening sequence in 2001 cuts away seconds before the Flinstones theme becomes recognizable.

allquixotic

05:45

OMG, the most awesome thing ever just happened in KSP

SSTO VTOL spaceplane :D

I turned on the under-wing downward-facing engines; about a second later I activated the rear-facing engines; and the plane took off with the engines more or less perfectly balancing one another... the thrust from the engines caused them to create a thrust vector at a 45 degree angle with respect to the ground, which was powerful enough to override other aerodynamic forces. I was transonic very quickly; supersonic in seconds; and hypersonic by about airliner cruising altitude.

unfortunately, the powerful aerodynamic forces of the high supersonic range tore off the vertical-facing engines... so now it's left with only the two rear-facing engines :/

allquixotic

06:56

Managed to fly the same spaceplane with a more conservative climb-out. Backed the throttles way off until the atmosphere started to thin out. I stayed just out of the transonic range until I was through the thickest part of the atmosphere, then I basically let it loose. Nothing fell off the craft ;p

Journeyman Geek

07:27

That's the best thing for any aircraft.

bmende

hello

anyone here know what stratego is?

Journeyman Geek

Stratego

Stratego /strəˈtiːɡoʊ/ is a strategy board game for two players on a 10×10 square board. Each player controls 40 pieces representing individual officers and soldiers in an army. The objective of the game is to find and capture the opponent's Flag, or to capture so many enemy pieces that the opponent cannot make any further moves. Players cannot see the ranks of one another's pieces, so disinformation and discovery are important facets to gameplay. == Gameplay == Typically, one player uses red pieces, and the other uses blue pieces. Pieces are colored on both sides, so players can easily ...

bmende

Oh hey journeyman

yeah that

Journeyman Geek

;p

LMWTFY...

(Actually I remembered it was a boardgame)

bmende

07:42

lmwtfy?

Journeyman Geek

let me wiki that for you ;p

bmende

lol

oh i thought u were going to wiki lmwtfy for me

but then the lightbulb went off

Journeyman Geek

loooool

bmende

ha

Bob

08:26

@allquixotic Remember these? amazon.com/Micro-Cable-Power-Galaxy-Samsung/dp/B00CXAC1ZW/…

@allquixotic ...downward-facing?

Sabre Tooth

08:53

boo

Hennes

09:53

Halp!

I just bought a StarTech USB3 2 HDEH

Lets render everything on the CPU (and no, not on the GPU part of a CPU. In software)

It is my first device with USB3 in it.

Journeyman Geek

lol

how does it perform for 'normal' use?

(I doubt you can game on it ;p)

fenetre88

Journeyman Geek

@ThatBrazilianGuy meta.superuser.com/q/9166/10165 ;p

(since you're apparently the only RA regular who speaks the language I know of ;p)

Hennes

10:22

No idea yet. It worked on the work laptop after a reboot (Yay, it will serve my third display at work with excel files and tailed log files on it.)

Just testing it at home now.

Hmm, plugging it in killed my sound.

Journeyman Geek

wierd

Hennes

Speakers: USB.
Uhmm.. Darn HDMI. Who the F- want to have audio over HDMI?

USB3 audio device: disable ... ok sound is back

Right to the sung text "we came to drop bombs on you" (my thought exactly)

Journeyman Geek

lol

People who want one cable from $device to a TV?

Hennes

Opoptygma Berzerk - Weight of the world

I do not mind that for TVs. But just no on monitors

And esp. not with windows stealing the output and moving it to a freshly plugged in device

Re display: Open office calc is just fine with it.
Ditto email/thunderbird.

Hmm, moving open office off the screen left it full of artifacts

And moving fiorefox to it means blind clicking and trying to drag it back (solved by disabling the display).

Drivers--

Journeyman Geek

ya

and eh. That reminds me. I need to test the display on the shared box

(I suspect the digital outs on the system all died. Its the second video card on that old system ._.)

so if I can get HDMI working with another system the monitor is fine

Hennes

10:44

Not updating the screen (or even forgetting part of it which was already drawn).
Bad first impression.

Though to be fair. Using both that and teamviewer at the same time
Might work without TV

Journeyman Geek

maybe?

Hennes

I'll try that tomorrow at work (2 monitors connected to the dockingstation, one will be to the new adaptor via USB)

Right now I need TeamViewer so I can use my proper keyboard and a big screen

Hmm, Set of display. Move somethign to it (application logs in wintail).
Wait 10 seconds... and see the app crash.

Someone wil be surprised by my quick (queue is down!) reporting :)

Bob

11:05

@allquixotic What do you use for high-current MicroUSB charging cables?

I'm looking at the Anker ones right now. They claim to be 21 AWG o.O

@JourneymanGeek o.O

I don't really get the Portuguese SE sites... do we really have that large a proportion of users who speak it?

Hm. Pop of Brazil is 200 million, so maybe...

@Hennes Isn't HDMI audio over a digital protocol? You'd get better quality, especially over longer distances (assuming the DAC+amp on the receiving end isn't much worse than what you'd use otherwise).

Journeyman Geek

I donno. Maybe they have some degree of critical mass in SE + people who are enthusiastic about it .

@Bob but but...

the speakers on monitors suck ;p

Hennes

This is HDMI to DVI, so no audio at all when I use HDMI

And the A501 speakerbar which I normally use is not horrible.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek The assumption is you're using some proper audio setup :P

Point is, audio over HDMI does have its uses.

Hennes

Not at the computer. That just has sound for games and sometimes for a movie

Yup. At movie/entertainment it is a good thing.

The HDMI cable though should have larger and more sturdy connectors.

But that is a different point

Journeyman Geek

11:24

@Bob which is essentially what I said ;p

@Hennes: like the 13W3? ;p

Hennes

I still should have 13W3 cable somewhere. (near an old sun 5)

But nah. DVI size was perfect. Better than the DB15/VGA plug. Big enough to handle. Solid connection. Just expand it with audio connectors to the side.
That would even leave it pin for pin compaible

Journeyman Geek

I just threw one out (I don't have the monitor for it, and I have a known good 13w3 to VGA adaptor for a SGI box I can't log into cause I lost the root password ;p)

DVI also has analog pins tho.

Hennes

Yup. 4 of them (R G B and sync? Not sure)

Journeyman Geek

(and I've just started moving from DVI to newer gear ;p)

Hennes

I have newer gear. And it all goes DVI -> HDMI (new gear) HMDI -> DVI

E.g laptop (2xDVI and 2x DP) -> HDMI ('audio' amplifier) -> HDMI -> DVI (beamer)

Journeyman Geek

11:32

Let's see. My main screen is dvi/VGA.

Hennes

With classic analog cables for the sound.

Journeyman Geek

My secondary screen is HDMI/VGA/composite

Hennes

My main screen is:
x DVI-D - 24 pin digital DVI
4 x USB 2.0 - 4 pin USB Type A
1 x VGA - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15)
1 x component video input - RCA x 3
1 x composite video input - RCA
1 x S-video input - 4 pin mini-DIN

Secondary is VGA/DVI/HDMI (using HDMI means the screen colour change if the audio gets louder. SO I do not use that)

And the old third screen I used for testing is VGA/DVI (old. First 19" flatscreen ever sold over here)

Neovo F419 something

2006-ish I think

Still works though. and i mainly connected to a server when I play with those

Bob

o.O SSD refurbs?

Journeyman Geek

OO

Hennes

11:40

Heh. I would not mind a SSD refurb for a work laptop.

Journeyman Geek

Or a fast doid?

Hennes

Esp. since I would leave most of it empty. So the controller on the SSD may as as many spare/bad sectors as it wants

Bob

Apparently they're most likely just pulled out of upgraded laptops.

It's a Dell/LiteOn, $38, 128 GB. M.2 connector.

I don't have any M.2 devices :(

They post overseas for $54 incl. shipping :P

Journeyman Geek

Lol

Tempting but I have no m2 devices :p

Bob

ebay.com.au/itm/… <= if anyone wants (or can make use of) it

@JourneymanGeek Yea, if I had one or was planning to get one, I'd buy this in a heartbeat.

For that price? Why not.

Journeyman Geek

11:44

(Also... Weeeeel.... I have two active laptops and a desktop)

Bob

Make a great cache drive if nothing else.

Hennes

11:58

If I could use it in my laptop I would make the the amin (and only) drive

No movies, no music, no VMs... No need for more than 100GiB

Hmm, with VMs I am almost at 90GiB usage though. (Half of that from virtual machine disk files)

Journeyman Geek

12:19

I tend to keep those on external or on the network anyway

Hennes

13:08

Bah, googles does not auto match my -80F in real temp

Oliver Salzburg

13:59

> Don't worry, even if it says alpha, it's stable.

Right...

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