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A: CPU clock and L3 cache for programming

allquixoticAssuming you're talking about a current-generation Macbook or Macbook Pro, the difference in performance between the two models you cited (2.3 GHz w/ 6 MB L3 cache vs. 2.7 GHz w/ 8 MB L3 cache) will make, roughly, between a 2% to 15% difference, depending on the exact workload. It's definitely no...

@allquixotic: Awesome answer but that's essentially a purchase rec :/
@allquixotic Love your comparison of computation time with our evolution time :D
"Sorry, we already finished installing our shit on your system! You're stuck with it now!"
"Our browser is so fast, you don't even get a chance to have second thoughts!"
01:51
> Also... Pacemaker for Blackberry
so let me get this straight: an iOS app, with a Blackberry port, but they have "no plans" for Android? fuck them.
;p
HIPSTERS!
Speaking of hipsters...
(the ugly grey box is the local pervasive surveillance toll system
Nice bike tho
Bob
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...I look left, light cloud cover. I look right, ominously dark clouds.
@Bob duck!
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Guess which side the window was facing? Didn't bring a jacket...
Urk. It's getting darker. At noon.
And windy. I'm so glad we don't get tornados here.
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Annnd the rain starts.
> embedded systems in everything from control systems to medical devices to digital cameras
Look, if your medical device is connected to the fucking internet, or accepts untrusted input in any way, you're fucking doing it wrong
I really need to maintain my two rhythmbox plugins
but I have real work I'm procrastinating about right now :/
 
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03:31
What is the difference between SYSCALL_DEFINE1, SYSCALL_DEFINE1, .. SYSCALL_DEFINEx ?

What is the significance of this x?
Can anyone please help me to understand this?
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Bob
Context please.
It's like asking "why is this blue" without saying what 'this' is.
03:43
In many system calls, for example in kernel/sys.c I see,
SYSCALL_DEFINE1(setgid, gid_t, gid)
SYSCALL_DEFINE2(setreuid, uid_t, ruid, uid_t, euid)
SYSCALL_DEFINE3(setresuid, uid_t, ruid, uid_t, euid, uid_t, suid)
Here, I dont understand what does defining a system calls as 1,2,3 etc means.
Will this make any discrimination?
Bob
Bob
@imVoid They're macros.
There's no overloading in C macros.
Well, not a simple way anyway...
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Q: Can macros be overloaded by number of arguments?

PotatoswatterHow does this work? How can a C99/C++11 variadic macro be implemented to expand to different things on the sole basis of how many arguments are given to it?

ugggggh it seems my 2TB may indeed have stopped working :<
Uhh... none of my Administrative tools are opening... o.O
Bob
Bob
04:03
Backups? Hopefully?
[Window Title]
C:\Users\Mike\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WinX\Group3\03 - Computer Management.lnk

[Content]
This file does not have a program associated with it for performing this action. Please install a program or, if one is already installed, create an association in the Default Programs control panel.

[OK]
o.O
So weird.
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compmgmt.msc
Tried that; "didn't respond in a timely manner."
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What displayed that error?
Whenever I try to run anything like taskmgr, compmgmt...
Let's try a System Refresh...
gah! I need Installation media to do that? D:
okay. I can access the drive in Safe Mode.. So something is messing with me when I logged in normally.
Oh wow.
So it was avast!
04:24
@Bob Yes, I see they are macros.
They all are using this 'x' for some purpose, at.

#define __SYSCALL_DEFINEx(x, name, ...)
Im just going through the code to understand their usage..
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@imVoid looks like it's just to distinguish between different argument lists in lieu of overloads
 
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06:59
Greetings to all!
Greetings!
07:39
As much as I hate doing emergency server maintenance in the middle of the night, I had to take down my blog
SHA-1 is deprecated. I'm having certificates reissued with SHA-256 signatures as soon as possible
If it's down, why link to it?
Just to show the 503 message
... I need to feed someone to a grue.
He's complaining WASAPI sounds worse than ASIO...
when he's listening to stuff off the web...
07:55
@DragonLord Right, also the first sentence makes it sound like the website is in a state where you are unable to perform maintenance on it.
SSL certificate is reissued, I'm deploying it right now
Certificate is deployed. I'm lifting the 503 now.
Site is up and running again.
08:15
@DragonLord It doesn't seem to be up. I can't access it.
Hang on, I'm reconfiguring the server
@joejoe31b Should be up now.
Wait a sec, certificate chain is incomplete, and I'm having trouble configuring Apache here
@DragonLord Well, it seems to be working fine at the moment.
The problem should be resolved now.
08:35
Good night, everyone
Did you know that you can learn Git in your web browser!? try.github.com
How cool is that?
09:07
Morning/afternoon
Good evening
Ah, NZ ... :)
Yeah man :D
Friends left here (UK) 1 year ago. Can I ask a culteral question please?
 
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10:35
anyone know Citrix/ICA client?
Bob
Bob
11:04
@Dave Now I'm curious :P
@DragonLord ...it's not an emergency
it's a "don't issue new certs with it"
even then the reasoning is somewhat flimsy
11:29
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Q: How can I establish a secure connection to a websocket on localhost?

Oliver SalzburgWe have an application which we run on a POS terminal, that should receive data from an application running on the same machine, while displaying content from a remote site which is loaded over HTTPS. To receive the data from the local application, we want to use websockets, which is working fin...

Help please! :P
no no
HELP PLEASE! URGENT! EMAIL ME @ [email protected]!
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12:13
just found the SU blog
why are there not more recent posts?
People need to write them? ;p
surprised the 2nd most recent post is 2013
Yeah
(and the most recent one has been sitting on my computer almost that long XD)
hahah
12:58
what would you say the consensus is on SU on everyone's place of work
love where you are, hate it, indifferent?
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@JourneymanGeek One of my friends gave me a pendrive to fix . it's lights blink when I connect it to pc. kernel message buffer shows sd 6:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk.But , there is no device sdc. also, lsusb dont show any usb.
any thoughts ?
but , still the light blinks and kernel msg buffer show the above msg when I reconnect.
 
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14:11
@Ash: That's odd
Might simply be dead.
@Ash: I tend to check the contents of /dev before and after the drive is plugged in
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> Murphy's Law of Replaceable Parts: Once you have a spare, the original will never break again, unltil you lose the spare.
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@JourneymanGeek yeah sdc is in /dev
14:20
ahh
may mean that that there's no partition
or the partition is borked
I'd break out testdisk
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s/testdisk/ddrescue/
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I will try it.ty :)
O0
@Bob: maybe, but testdisk is what came to mind first ;p
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Just 1 question, most tools I tried on it returns /dev/sdd: No medium found
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@JourneymanGeek Always create a clone of dodgy disks.
You can work on the clone as much as you want.
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If you start off with attempting file recovery, there's a decent chance the disk will crap out mid-recovery.
Thats new
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o.O
Might be a userscript
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@JourneymanGeek nup, I have it
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14:31
yup
@JourneymanGeek nope , it's not listed.
do you need to do data recovery?
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@JourneymanGeek Nope.
I'd suggest creating a new partition, then filling it with junk, and checking if the data is still there after you unplug and re-plug it in
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I'll do.
 
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@JourneymanGeek whoaaaa
 
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17:28
> Murphy's Law of Rain: For as long as you have an umbrella on your backpack or purse, it is guaranteed never to rain. The day you forget it at home, the chance of rain goes to 100%.
18:09
If you have 30-35 volts being pumped out, and you want to step that down to 12V, how would you do that if the voltage coming out isn't always constant?
Something like this but 12v out :( pololu.com/product/2104
Found one! ah
18:39
@Bob :(
I want top say a zenier diode is the key component in that circuit, but not sure
18:56
To describe cache locality: imagine two different people eating at two separate buffets, which are laid out as long tables with varied dishes on them. They're both really hungry and will eventually clear out the buffet table. One of them eats 100% of the potatoes before touching any of the other food, while the other takes 1 spoonful of each item on their plate, eats that, and repeats. The guy who eats exclusively one food at a time before clearing it out would have excellent cache locality in his "algorithm". The one who eats a bit of everything has poor cache locality. — allquixotic 44 secs ago
@Bob another of my "famous" analogies
In response to the thread about cleaning up company tags, I've cleaned up the Norton tag. What do I do now? Do I need to make some kind of request regarding it so people won't be able to use it? Do I just leave it as is? meta.superuser.com/questions/8402/…
@RobinHood First of all, good job! Second of all, I don't know. :( maybe @JourneymanGeek can help
the puppy is almost always here, and he's a mod, so he should know
although this may be a bad time; pretty sure he's in his doghouse, muzzle on front feet, eyes closed, maybe even snoring
I'll pop by again later, and see if he's in.
19:14
@RobinHood If you've deleted all of them, the tag will be deleted until someone with enough rep chooses to re-create it.
Yeesh. Seems the trolls are out tonight...
weird the link doesnt show it like i saw it. oh well
I must have the enhanced price cookie :-)
the new X99 boards are out, with that chip item using 2X the power of a normal haswell (and i think the power stuff on boards becomming cheap and lasy) 2 people have Fried thier boards in reviews, one a MSI and one a ASUS.
one the mosfet was cooked , which may have been related to a shorting via a MB trace wire, and another it was the MB trace wire. probable (IMO) cause thin trace wires overloaded finnaly, as they cram more and more MB traces to connect stuff up
@terdon Alright. The other completed tags in the thread I mentioned seem to be altered beyond being emptied though. They no longer show a wiki option, but [norton] does.
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Q: Manufacturer & Company tags are back. Again

RobotnikWe don't like company-only tags, and there's been various crusades in the past to purge them: Can we get rid of the company tags? Company tag necromancy: The zombie apocalypse! What should the [microsoft] tag be used for? Lotus tag cleanup Retagging [microsoft] questions Retagging [google] que...

@RobinHood Blame caching. I don't see it.
19:30
Makes sense. Thanks.
phoronix.com/… <-- cooked photo. I am looking foreward to getting a $1500 setup toasted by trying the new stuff :-)
when the power regulation/power trace areas go out, the CPU itself is likely to "get out of warrenty"
Oh @allquixotic, you got your new car yet?
@Mokubai No. I'm still working on the financing.
You definitely going for it though?
I have some things to try that I hope will reduce the amount of interest I end up paying.
@Mokubai IF I manage to get everything sorted financially, yes. There's actually a breathtakingly huge difference in monthly loan payment (the difference between it being manageable and slowly but surely falling deeper and deeper into debt) by adjusting the amount of down payment by just a tiny amount.
It's definitely on the upper end of what I can afford, but for various reasons I'm expecting to have more money available in the future, especially in the next two years or so.
19:42
But in theory you save some money in dino juice, hopefully electricity works out cheaper per mile
Also, because I had terrible credit and virtually no past positive credit history at the time that I took out my first car loan, even though my first car is WAY cheaper than the Volt, I got a horrible loan on my current car. I mean, it's just cruel how expensive it is (and high interest).
So hopefully getting a better loan this time will make a big difference
You able to trade in or pay off the current one?
Yes. When I trade in my current one, even if I get a really shitty offer on the trade-in amount, it will completely eliminate my existing loan, and I half expect to have money in my hand left over.
If they offer me less than the payoff amount of my current loan, I will politely thank them, get up, and walk out.
I looked up the blue book value. I don't take insults lightly.
Hehe. That I would love to see.
One way I'm trying to look at this is, it's going to save me money on gas, and if I can get the monthly loan amount down around the same amount as my current car, it's not like I'm taking on an even bigger load than I have already.
Already, with the low amount of my yearly salary, there's simply no way I could afford not to live with my parents.
19:49
Exactly, overall you end up no worse off and all being well you're winning
I would have to eat ramen and drink tap water every day, 3 meals. No TV, no internet. Only a basic cellphone. Four roommates. And a used 2004 POS car.
That's how austere I'd have to live if I moved out.
I'd have to decline going out to lunch with coworkers due to the inability to afford it, and beg them to always drive me to meetings to save on gas.
And I'd still probably accrue increasing amounts of debt over time.
Not having to pay for a house (my parents don't either, since the house's mortgage is paid off) is the difference between living like a pauper, and living like a king, in the US. The cost of housing is astronomical.
Wow.
I don't even live in an especially expensive area. New York and California's metropolitan areas are worse.
But basically anywhere that's within reasonable driving distance of a place an IT person would want to work, is not going to have affordable housing.
Housing prices are on the up again here, we only just managed to get out of renting before it shot up
Food and housing and taxes have continued to skyrocket in cost, while earning salaries have been more or less stagnant for the past 35 years.
Your money is worth less, and greedy executives are hoarding cash like there's no tomorrow in almost every company. Companies are imposing "austerity measures" like not having raises.
19:54
Big bosses don't want to pay more than they absolutely have to, but they don't have to worry about the people they employ because they can always hire different people
Thankfully I've worked in a company with some respect for their employees
Right, and there's a line 200 people long who would kill to sit at my desk and make $5k/year less than I do.
side by side density compare attempt
@Psycogeek That thing looks broken
19:56
(if you add in the H-1Bs, the line extends into the millions.)
I think it's all a bunch of bullshit. Big companies aren't suffering for money. There's plenty of money. They just give most of it to the people who invest in the company, and the C-level executives. They need to stop concentrating power in the hands of the few.
They pretend like they're starving but they have a pile of gold as tall as the World Trade Center under their desk.
If -- heaven forbid -- the underlings manage to do really well for themselves and bring in a huge profit and push the company's figures into the black, that just means the CEO needs to take a bigger share of the money, in order to push it back into the red.
The glory of greed
a large percentage of the problems people are having with the new stuff is "bent pins" it can cause every problem in a computer build in the world, from ram issues (because the controller is on the die) to the usual pci problems and all the other massive stuff connecting. Trying to get into the 2011 for me to build a computer is scarry :-)
They use the red line to justify their tyranny. Success isn't allowed.
Like Microsoft. They laid off thousands, but are lobbying for more H-1Bs than ever before.
AKa that is a shitload of things that can go badly
H-1B sounds horrifying
20:02
@Mokubai It's the term for the visa card that enables foreign nationals to come work in the US.
Basically, it's every CEO's wet dream. Fire all the lazy, expensive Americans, and hire highly qualified people (whose English may suffer a little, but oh well) to do the same work, with master's degrees and PhDs, for less money than mail deliverymen.
The only downside is that your executive report will have grammar mistakes in it.
That sounds awesome if you hate people
Microsoft, Facebook, etc. (and my company) hate people.
Well, I take that back. They don't hate people. But we aren't people. We're slaves.
Only C-level executives are actual people.
The rest are not worthy of moral concern.
Besides, it's always someone else's problem. "If you don't like it, leave!" Yeah, well that's great, until every single option races down to exactly the same low bar.
You can underpay foreign people, and show the locals that they're a bunch of greedy gits for not working and supporting the company for free
Our company recently... adjusted certain internal numbers used to calculate pay rates for people in most (non-executive) jobs within the company, at different experience levels, etc.
The "adjustment" involved basically an across-the-board pay cut. Fortunately, they aren't inflicting it upon existing employees -- if you make $X, you aren't going to make less next year -- but people who enter these new positions going forward (either by hiring on, or receiving a promotion) will be "adjusted" accordingly.
Let's just say the cut amount is major and leave it at that.
If you ask them for a reason, they'll just say they're following the market. We're doing what the rest of the industry is doing! We're copycats! We're part of the big hump right at the top of the bell curve! We're normal!
Overpopulation and malnutrition in the poorer classes is "normal", that doesn't make it a good thing.
20:10
Well, that makes perfect sense when you think about it. See, here's how it goes (and this is really simple): Get all the CEOs of the big Fortune 500 companies together at a vacation resort. Come up with numbers for cutting everyone's pay (all the staff, that is).
Stop paying the contractors and bottom line people.
Then you have one "maverick" company "adventurously" decide to implement the new numbers. Whoa, look at them! They're doing something weird! ... But then, a few weeks later, 10 of their competitors follow along. Now it's a trend!
"Hey, we can afford another resort!"
Once you have a trend, the rest is history. The companies merely following the trend will not raise suspicion in the slightest, and the one that started the trend will be given an extra bonus for his foresight.
They probably have a lottery to decide who gets to be the maverick.
He gets an extra $5 mil from his company for starting the trend.
This is what happens when you have virtually no regulation over business. Business becomes the government. Business becomes peoples' lives, and completely controls all aspects of it. The ways and means of business eventually devolve to pure, unadulterated fascism.
puts me in mind of the 5th Element: "Sir, the politicians are worried about the economy warming up. They want us to fire 500,000 people, maybe from one of the taxi companies"
20:14
All I remember from that movie are boobies.
Was there really that much boobies?
I feel like something bad is happening on my server, but I cannot tell
nothing in the logs, I am clueless
Does anyone know about this site
senderbase.org
There was a lot of hints of boobies...
@meda are you sure it's not the new bash bug?
@Mokubai I was 12, ok? At 12, hints of boobies == boobies.
what is bash bug
@allquixotic Okay, I can give you that.
Ok I will check
Is it possible that some activity going on without leaving anylogs @allquixotic
@allquixotic Oh, there is a profile shot of boobies quite early on.
@meda Other people want to know too: superuser.com/questions/816826/…
@meda "logs" (assuming they are on the same server) are not an actual problem for someone with sufficient access to the system and knowledge. They can just clear out their activity and restore the log file's timestamp.
Thought I saw some posts about it on Security.SE as well
20:20
Logs are no bigger a problem for hackers than a Club on a steering wheel for advanced car thieves.
Security got their Shellshock going on. security.stackexchange.com/search?q=shellshock
That escalated quickly...
ok
What does it mean when a mail server has bad reputation, I have patched it and made sure it is not compromised. Using cisco reporting tools it shows that the server is sending out mails in high volume
Was it compromised in the past?
wow, I've never seen a term that googling it produces more pure Japanese results (with no hint of English in sight)
google for billys sandwitches @___@
they have weird song titles consisting of seemingly randomly thrown-together English words, but the lyrics are in Japanese
20:34
@allquixotic what in the name of the great magnet made you search for that?
"Lady Time Machine Blues"?
"The End of the Flame of My Eyes"?
@Mokubai Spotify
also, there is absolutely nothing bluesy at all about "Lady Time Machine Blues"
@allquixotic Any chance of a link, my Japanese Google-fu is weak....
Sometimes I wish I was more fluent in Japanese and Korean. Their music is somewhat awesome
@Mokubai look for "This Silence Is Mine" by Chihiro Onitsuka
forget that other song, it's bad
@allquixotic This one?
The imperfections and huskiness to her voice is actually quite appealing.
20:56
Okay, she is my new favourite music singer, until I find someone better or get distracted by something shiney.
@Mokubai I had an album by her a long time ago but can't seem to find it
look for her song called "Crow"
I just found "Infection" and it's a bloody good song
@allquixotic not on youtube, might see if Amazon have it.
eh, I'll link to it from my server in a sec
Coolio.
Nap time now.
Catch you on the other side.
21:23
@allquixotic Wait... does Spotify do that intentionally?
@MichaelFrank YES.
they intentionally exploit a bug in a library that prevents you from debugging it
oreans.com/themida.php (though I wouldn't advise that you click on this, given the level of sophistication demonstrated by these guys; they might well install a rootkit on your system just by visiting their site)
oddly, their technology is incredibly cheap -- it's not a "Call for Sales" thing -- their most expensive license is only about 600 USD, and some of their stuff is as cheap as a little over $100.
I was expecting a $2000+ slap just to get in the door

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