base 4: 0q21112130

someone do the math

I make $(base 8) 145,440/yr

I try not to look at my paycheck ammount. It'd make me depressed. And I can't afford therapy.

@CanadianLuke much more

Just recompiled mono

Unfortunately, I am still getting that error

Ahhh, OK. I thought you made more... Sorry, I don't try rubbing it in :(

Was it you doing python last time?

Was it Jason then?

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ which part of US are you from?

Mmhmm.

@ThatBrazilianGuy the part of the paycheck that makes me most depressed is how much the government takes

@Kate, are you on mobile?

@jokerdino nope

O_O

?

You respond to that guy when I asked you?

/me bolts out of the room.

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ OK, I just worked it out your salary... And I feel like a dick now. I hope you can forgive me

umm

@Kate ok

you respond quite similarly to JMG. Never using specific message replies but going with the @username mentions.

@jokerdino will you forgive me :( it's been a long day

I forgive you.

@jokerdino thank you

welkommen.

@jokerdino my only excuse is that I'm all for keyboard shortcuts and avoid using the mouse as much as possible

there's an extension to do specific replies I think.

@jokerdino thanks

@Kate well, I don't generally care. I was just making an observation.

@jokerdino test

@Kate I'd happily have the govmt take 50% of my paycheck, if it was reverted in tax being actually applyed into free services for us.

But government is known for reverting taxes to their own pockets

@ThatBrazilianGuy exactly!

We had the World Cup earlier this month. There's stuff scheduled for it, being built and delivered after the World Cup ended. And stuff cancelled (after millions have been spent, obviously).

@ThatBrazilianGuy I live in the countryside, close to a mushroom farm, which just got a grant for a couple million dollars to have it enclosed. This mushroom farm is a money making local pest which can definately afford it on it's own. Meanwhile, I can't get the municipality to change a light bulb on ONE street light to a directional one.

Hey guys

not sure if correct place

@Kate How about knowing that the lawyers charging hundreds of thousands per day to represent representatives on the tax payer's dime?

I need my www.mydomain.com

to go to mydomain.com

with nginx

or rather

when I go to the www one

Use a CNAME record on your DNS server

it resolves to the correct IP

ok

how?

CNAME www to mydomain.com

A to IPAddress

The instructions will vary depending on who handles your DNS entries

my www points to mydomain.com

if you really want to do it in nginx you may be able to use the rewriterule

it resolves to the correct IP

I jsut get the standard

nginx page

not my website

but you need to have the mod_rewrite.c installed and you will have to restart nginx

I can do that

amazon instance

ec2

@Kate east coast

@We0 I haven't used RewriteRule befoe so it's a guess

@We0 Once you get that in, you need to add it to your nginx config, as Kate mentioned

Now would be a good time to use Google though

Thanks

it is weird though

If you are running specialized applications that require the ABSOLUTE URL to include or not include www, then you need to make sure you point it to the right name

first time having this problem

But you're not the first

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ so you get all the nice storms

@Kate I actually like the weather here. mostly.

not a fan of lightning while I'm sleeping in my bed in the corner of the house on the top story

okay... so who here knows PHP, because I'm getting really fed up

@Kate I know enough PHP to know to say that when someone asks me if I know PHP, I say "nope, never heard of it"

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ thunder storms are awesome, we get some nice ones up north

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ +1

well, I'm trying to do something unorthodox...

I'm trying to figure out how to "reply" with a file :S

reply with a file? Please elaborate?

add to htaccess

no luck

I have to send a file between two servers and I can only do it with PHP... the file in question is a backup file which I will be asking for on a daily basis... on the requesting server the call will be initiated through a daily cron job... on responding server, lets say www.somesite.com/get_file.php, I would ideally like to generate the file (not a problem) and send it back

I've considered using cURL, but can't figure out how to get that setup

fopen()

it's a fairly large gzipped file, does that make a difference?

... I'd find another way if it's a large file. You could crash your HTTP server if it's too large, or you could just get no reply from the source server

If you post the file to a place that's readable via the web, remember other people can also download it

Agreedd

I did a similar

service

If you're concerned about that, I'd setup the servers to connect via SSH with keys, and use SCP or rsync

we used xml files (not my spec)

to drop on a server so another machine pics it up

ftp

it's generated to a directory that is not accessible via the web but the Apache user can create/read it

I wish I had that option :(

I'm limited to PHP

Ok

@Kate break into the shell from php and write a bash or ruby script. that's what I'd do. ;p

well fopen

even the requesting server is accessible to localhost only

but You could crash your HTTP server if it's too large

still remains

http is a bad protocol for copy files

unless you have a good nginx setup

I know (crying)

@We0 ? no it isn't...

you know, the web server can buffer the file little bits at a time

yes

allocate (say) an 8 MB buffer in the web server's VAS, and read 8 MB at a time and flush it to the network before reading the next 8 MB

no OOM worries

but not if I am calling /getFile.php

okay, but what I can't wrap my head around is how do I send it back on the same request?

if you use nginx for example

then your PHP can buffer it

which a lot of people do for serving images

chunked encoding

And ifthe connection drops for a few secs?

Admittedly haven't tried t

@Kate no idea about PHP, but the concept is: they call HTTP GET /url; you return an HTTP response. your response can have a response body and content-type, etc

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ yes! response headers!

these are very, very low usage apache web servers. For busy sites I use nginx.

@Kate Captain... there is no neutral zone.

sorry, your reply made me think of the last episode of TNG

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ :D never apologize for a Star Trek reference

@Kate do you have irumodic syndrome?

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ I am still getting that error, even after recompiling mono :(

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ummm, sometimes it feels like it

@JordanRichards like I tell my coworker who pulls the same thing on me ("I tried it and it still doesn't work :(") -- what you are telling me is not actionable; you need to convert your non-actionable information into actionable information

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ my doc says it's anemia though

pick a hypothesis; go on that hypothesis; attempt to find out if it's true; if true, act on it

my hypothesis would be: it's looking for System.Data.Sqlite.dll in the wrong place

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ It says that the DLL is not found still, I have no idea why, doesn't make sense

how to test: strace -eopen /usr/bin/mono-sgen Whatever.exe 2&>1 | grep 'No such' | grep -i dll

you have to learn to deep dive

oh, you'll probably get an error for not specifying the absolute path of mono-sgen

there, fixed

may have to change No such to ENOENT, can't remember, just air scripting atm

crumbs, it won't let me type pipes

it just shows up as a <

you probably have a mismatched ' somewhere

hit ctrl+c a few times

are you typing this into RDP or putty?

rdp

keymap issue then

are you using a standard US keyboard? or?

Well, I'm from the UK, I think US uses the same

nah, it's different AFAIR

you can run it from putty anyway as long as you have DISPLAY exported correctly

shouldn't make a difference

oh ok

hmm, it didn't do anything

$DISPLAY is set to :12

"didn't do anything" -- I bet it did, the grep is just too strict

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Yeah, it just doesn't give me anything to work with

@JordanRichards no output at all?

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ there's a gap in time, then after around 8 seconds, it just goes back for me to enter another command. No output. (I have my RDP open in the background too)

@JordanRichards strace -eopen -Ff /usr/bin/mono-sgen Whatever.exe 2>&1 | gzip > blah.gz

then host that blah.gz in /var/www and give me the URL :P

if you don't have a webserver installed, install one... e.g. yum install lighttpd

make sure you're replacing Whatever.exe with the actual executable

jordanmrichards.com/hosted/dev/misc/blah.gz

404

Sorry about that, jordanmrichards.com/hosted/misc/dev/blah.gz

got

> Unhandled Exception: System.TypeInitializationException: An exception was thrown by the type initializer for System.Windows.Forms.XplatUI ---> System.ArgumentNullException: Could not open display (X-Server required. Check you DISPLAY environment variable)

echo $DISPLAY

ps -ef | grep -E ' :[0-9]'

root 537 535 0 16:32 ? 00:00:00 Xvnc :12 -geometry 1920x1080 -depth 24 -rfbauth /root/.vnc/sesman_root_passwd -bs -ac -nolisten tcp -localhost -dpi 96

o_O

did you manage to successfully login as a user, or is it logged in as root to RDP?

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ root

ok. in the terminal over on the RDP side, run xhost +

Basically, the exe runs fine in rdp at first, but once the sqlite.dll is needed in a crucial part of the app, it breaks with the error about the dll

and give me the output

ok

"access control disabled, clients can connect from any host"

good

ok, to get around your pipe character problem

on the putty side: echo 'strace -eopen -Ff /usr/bin/mono-sgen Whatever.exe 2>&1 | gzip > blah.gz' > doit.sh; chmod +x doit.sh

on the RDP side, in the RDP terminal: ./doit.sh in the same directory as you are in on the putty side

then host the file again by overwriting the old copy

if the program starts up but doesn't crash immediately, trigger the SQLite crash while it's running

the log will be stored in blah.gz (as gzipped text)

you can of course examine the log yourself using zless blah.gz

uh, I cannot find doit.sh, it didn't save for some reason

you need to be in the same directory on both consoles

pwd and verify

Yes, but just looking in ftp I cannot see the sh there at all

/var/modbot

did you get any error when inserting the command?

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ no error, no output

ooh I have an idea :D

:o

we can both see your terminal interactively :D

you have a Google account of some form, right?

yes

go to tiyukquellmalz.org/gateone and log in -- all I get is your email address -- then click on the big terminal button, and when prompted, put in a URL like this: ssh://your-server.com:22

enter your login info and let me know. I won't steal it, I promise, it doesn't log the data

it's an open source web SSH terminal thingy I have on my server

(tiyukquellmalz.org is my box)

once you are logged in you can share the terminal by clicking on terminal settings on the right-hand side of the screen

you should see my email in the list of users to share it to

don't share it to everyone or even to "Authenticated Users", just to my email: smcnam at gmail dot com

you can make up a password too

it should give you a broadcast url to give to me

you can email me the password if you make one

How do I share?

click Terminal Application Panel on the right hand side

then click Terminal Sharing

then check Read and Write for my email address, type in a password, click Generate New Share ID

ok, I see your share, I just don't see the password

that's gonna take like 20 minutes @ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ :L

it's ok dude

wheeee :3

it'll take 1/3 of the time because I did a parallel make

:3 sweet

:( got a terrible toothache

ouch

@Bob new AWESOME use case for Gate One: remote troubleshooting

I'll brb

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ yes, that is pure awesomeness

I have to say though I did indulge in the floccinaucinihilipilification a little though.

what's that?!

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ I never thought I'd have the honor of telling you this, but YOU my friend, SHOULD GOOGLE BEFORE ASKING.

wow I just looked that word up

o___O

I had no idea that was a real word, I thought you were just pushing keys

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ So you were actually indulging in floccinaucinihilipilification yourself?

How dare you.

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ why do you ask?

@JordanRichards now I am going to need to learn to spell that correctly -_-

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ I can actually pronounce that word :3

@Kate irumodic syndrome == fake disease they made up to explain Captain Picard's odd behavior in the last episode of TNG :P

@JordanRichards but did you get over it once you saw how :Onumbingly awesome it is?

you get a mind == blown moment.

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ I did.

"Kids, never give strange lurking pro superusers access to your terminal randomly"

"Ok mom" hands over terminal

@Kate it was the specific way you stated some remark

"yes! response headers!"

"yes! the klingons!"

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ ahh, phew

Other than not supporting 4G or LTE, any reason this would be a bad deal?

@JordanRichards lol.

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ sorry, had to clarify

so @CanadianLuke fopen it was

Yea

I can't remember the syntax though

Why are you limited to only PHP, and not any other methods? Does the person in charge want that gzip file available to anyone on the Internet?

I was just stuck on the header and fpassthru

@CanadianLuke no, NOBODY on the internet

Then serving the data up via the Internet is f*cking retarded

Yes, I know there are precautions, but nothing is perfect

@CanadianLuke EXACTLY!!

Tell them another Canadian believes they are incorrect... And that he understands FOIPOP as well :P

and I'm not going to argue, I just want it done and off my plate

oh sh... I had an appointment at 4

ahhh

Better hurry off then!

@CanadianLuke OMNOMNOM YOU'RE A GRAPEFRUIT

Dodgeball actually. Found it in the field when doing supervision at one of the schools back in May

Ahh yes, of course

Wow.. So I got Brave Frontier on my Nexus 5 lastnight... Mobile gaming has sure come a long way!

@MichaelFrank it's gone precisely nowhere until we have Hearthstone on Android

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ indeed.

although I haven't played in a while :/

@MichaelFrank too busy with Dawngate? :D

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ Pretty much. Although my recent lack of decent luck rolls is getting me down

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ is this on parallel processing?

@JordanRichards is what? I'm not doing anything right now; I'm trying to figure out which repo to enable

@ÃŁŁǫǛȉЖΦΤїҪ I was talking about when you were making