Root Access

Bob

00:02

@JohnMerlino It's an example of a proc with a 32-bit bus.

You can't exactly provide an example of a bus itself, can you?

JohnMerlino

well a bus is a bunch of wires

@Bob benryves.com/bin/z180/2008.08.20.04.Overview.jpg

Bob

@JohnMerlino That's not very helpful. That's the definition, not an example in production.

JohnMerlino

@Bob you have an example in production? Not sure what you're getting at

Expotr

Would any of you check out superuser.com/questions/751085/… . It's a simple question about hardware communication.

allquixotic

00:40

@JohnMerlino what he's getting at is that a microprocessor and a bus are not synonymous. If you consider the working parts of a CPU, there are distinct parts of the CPU which have nothing to do with the system bus (for example, the execution pipeline, the L1 cache, etc.). You may not be able to have a CPU without a bus, or a bus without a CPU, but that doesn't mean they're the same thing.

Another way to look at it: The set of objects or parts or mechanisms that comprise a system bus is a proper subset of the set of objects or parts or mechanisms that comprise a microprocessor.

Journeyman Geek

there's another reason

you could have 16 bit chips with 8 bit busses

or was it the other way around

allquixotic

amazon.com/Ambient-Weather-WR-335-ADVENTURER2-Flashlight/dp/…

@JourneymanGeek I bought that ^^ super cool

Journeyman Geek

;p

nice

I've seen similar units before, sadly they didn't go with the original, entirely crank powered, batteryless design

allquixotic

I'm a disaster gear geek... I figure in a disaster my chances are better if I use my strengths (communication, power, gadgets, etc) to augment my physical weakness

Journeyman Geek

lol

I just have a knife and a torchlight

allquixotic

00:54

this one can run on the hand crank alone (augmented slightly by the tiny solar collector), or if you find some AAA batteries in the rubble, you can chuck those in for some extra time

Journeyman Geek

and a very small crowbar somewhere

allquixotic

has a builtin flashlight, and it's super rugged

and if civilization is intact enough post-disaster to broadcast any sort of radio, whether it's AM, FM, shortwave or weather bands, I will hear it

and if I personally manage to keep my own possessions protected enough that my cellphone isn't dead, and I find the charge cable, I'll be able to keep my smartphone going indefinitely, which would probably be useless for internet in a disaster, but depending on the TYPE of disaster, might let me place phone calls

in the event of a weather disaster, cell towers are very likely to remain intact, even in a severe disaster (they were used a lot in e.g. New Orleans hurricane flooding)

in the event of a nuclear disaster, a radio or phone is probably useless because everyone is dead

Journeyman Geek

lol

I have short curly charge cables stashed everywhere

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I have a whole bunch of 2m ones :P

allquixotic

the type of emergency I foresee this being useful for includes some combination of an extended power outage and some kind of bad weather or natural disaster that leaves civilization mostly intact, but with a damaged or destroyed house, or no electricity, or something like that

Bob

00:57

My cables are acquired through this process:

allquixotic

much more severe than that, and I'm probably either dead, or not going to be able to survive because I don't have a bug-out bag with food in it

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: long ones are more practical. Short ones are stashable ;p

Bob

Search on ebay, buy one of each of a bunch, wait a month, test them all, buy 20 of the good ones

@JourneymanGeek eh, it rolls up pretty small

allquixotic

lol

my cables are acquired through this process: pay an arm and a leg for "replacement" official microUSB cables from Motorola, because they're so freaking solid and reliable

same with my wall warts

Bob

@allquixotic heh. I actually like the Samsung cables this time round. Problem is, well, it costs 10-20x more, and it's too short

allquixotic

01:00

too bad the shortwave isn't bidirectional (with the ability to transmit). in the event of a disaster, one of the best possible things would be to send out a signal and hear back from someone else and be able to tell them that we're going to get through this

bouncy bouncy off the ionosphere :-)

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: my phone came with a charger with a fixed connector

Bob

I use the official charger, though. It pushes 2.1 A. With some proprietary signalling (urgh)

Journeyman Geek

I guess they assumed people in india don't have spare chargers lying around

allquixotic

first (ish) world problems: I wish our local baseball station broadcasted on FM instead of AM

Journeyman Geek

no web feed? ;p

allquixotic

01:11

FM radio sounds amaaaaaaaazing through this emergency radio (the actual quality isn't that good, but psychoacoustically it sounds like 64 kbps ogg/vorbis)

the AM radio is full of static :/ our power lines interfere

@JourneymanGeek I have a web (audio) feed subscription, but I just got my new radio that I'm taking to the ballgame when I go in person so I can hear what happened on the radio when I miss stuff

I GOT A NEW GADGET; GIVE ME A BREAK OK?

Journeyman Geek

;p

allquixotic

I still wish our baseball radio was FM instead of AM. AM is terrible.

though I remember vaguely reading some article about how you can actually build an AM radio using a cat's whisker, which is why they keep it around

FM is VHF, and uses frequency modulation, so I don't think a cat's whisker can receive it

Journeyman Geek

lol

you can build a AM radio with a razor blade, a pencil some paper and a wire IIRC

Foxhole radio

A foxhole radio is a makeshift radio that was used by soldiers in World War II. The foxhole radio differed from the crystal radio. A razor blade and pencil were used as a diode in a foxhole radio while a piece of crystal is used as a diode in a crystal radio. The foxhole radio is like a crystal set, in that it does not require an external power source. The radio is powered by the radio signal it receives. This made the foxhole radio ideal for prisoners of war (POW). Prisoners of war made these radios to keep up with current events. Generally, this radio named after foxholes—small man-mad...

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek an FM radio requires a semiconductor and a quartz crystal or something, doesn't it?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: I don't know off hand. ;p

I'm pretty sure you could build them without transistors

Nick Alexeev

01:26

Folks, does Google search engine index the published Google docs (docs published through Google drive)?

I’d like to publish preliminary contents of my blog as a Google doc. In this case, I would like it to get indexed and appear in searches.

In the past, I’ve seen published Google docs in my own searches.

allquixotic

ehow.com/how_2313403_build-fm-radio.html

Journeyman Geek

.... That dosen't seem plausible

Thats probably AM

Bob

@NickAlexeev you could always try it :P

just place a unique string in there that won't appear anywhere else, and search for that

for example: sdihgisdfugyiusdfghoisdhgoitsdjg

allquixotic

@NickAlexeev if you share the doc publicly (i.e. don't just say "anyone with the link"), Google SHOULD index it

Nick Alexeev

@Bob I can create a GUID, which is truly unique.

allquixotic

01:32

@NickAlexeev *with an extremely high probability, but not guaranteed :P

Nick Alexeev

@allquixotic Really? I thought GUID is baked with my MAC addr, so it should be deterministically unique. Am I missing a piece?

allquixotic

@NickAlexeev depends on how it's generated -- a GUID isn't necessarily salted with any particular piece of information; it's just a way of encoding a really, really long number, that's all

when it comes down to it, a GUID is nothing more than a huge number -- anyone else could theoretically randomly generate the same number

certain GUID generator implementations may choose to salt it with some info that seems "unique" to the local box, but if you generate a GUID over the internet using some GUID generator service, you lose that

the operating principle of GUIDs is that it's astronomically unlikely that there will be a collision, not that it's impossible

Nick Alexeev

@allquixotic afaik, a self-respecting GUID generator uses MAC addr (unique in space), a tick count (unique in time).

Bob

@NickAlexeev That was only v1 GUIDs

Nick Alexeev

Have there ever been GUID collisions caused by lack of uniqueness?

Bob

01:39

@NickAlexeev Sure.

allquixotic

@NickAlexeev except that a MAC address isn't unique if you're generating more than one GUID from the same computer, and after a sufficiently long time, any finite tick based clock is going to wrap around, so if you use the same MAC address and generate GUIDs for a long, long time, those salts will repeat

if you generated GUIDs in a tight loop on the same box for as many years as it takes to make the tick count wrap around, you would certainly start seeing collisions

and server-side GUIDs generated by web services (which are becoming common) can easily hand out GUIDs with the same salt to two different people if they make the requests simultaneously during the same tick

apparently, extremely large scale SharePoint installations have been known to generate GUID collisions enough to annoy sysadmins

Journeyman Geek

engadget.com/2014/05/08/apple-rumored-to-be-acquiring-beats/…

ok... whut?

Bob

MACs are only used in v1 GUIDs too

Journeyman Geek

On the bright side, no more beats audio

Bob

also, some network card manufacturers reuse one MAC address on all their cards -_-

Nick Alexeev

01:44

@allquixotic This sounds like an interesting problem to solve. A better GUID gen could also keep track of the total number of GUIDs, which it had generated (although, even that will eventually roll over). It could also add calendar time.

Bob

mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2010-April/020639.html

allquixotic

@Bob what about VMs?

Bob

mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2010-April/020642.html

lol @ *thwack*

allquixotic

@NickAlexeev it's theoretically impossible to construct a deterministic algorithm that generates a finite-length output that never repeats

Bob

@Bob Presumably, a decent way to generate it would be to use the VM vendor as the vendor, and derive the rest from the host's MAC + a current time since epoch.

allquixotic

01:46

the proof is complicated, so I won't get into it, but it makes intuitive sense: if you have a fixed amount of possible values, and a fixed amount of computation time to do it in (in terms of calculations, not wall clock time), you are eventually going to wrap

Bob

@allquixotic Presumably, a decent way to generate it would be to use the VM vendor as the vendor, and derive the rest from the host's MAC + a current time since epoch.

Journeyman Geek

allquixotic

the only way to have it never repeat would require having a non-deterministic algorithm and an infinite maximum length on the output

Bob

@NickAlexeev and who's going to keep track?

allquixotic

determinism is important for computers because if you have a non-deterministic algorithm, it could in theory take infinite time to run

Journeyman Geek

01:47

@Bob: But then two vms, hypothetically created at the same time would clash

and if a device has more than one nic, which MAC would you use?

(or no nics, but that would matter less)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek do what MS did

> The oldest technique, present as a feature in early version of Microsoft's GUIDGEN SDK tool, works by simply outputting the set of MAC-based version 1 GUIDs corresponding to a time interval, taking advantage of the fact that the time field in v1 GUIDs has a resolution of 100 ns, which allows a million sequential GUIDs to be generated by simply locking out other GUID generators on the computer for a tenth of a second (or 10000 GUIDs in a millisecond).
These sequential GUIDs are unique, but the increment happens in the Data1 field, not at the end of the GUID.

@JourneymanGeek the first one? :P

it doesn't matter if it happens to pick a different one next run

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek YES! so if that goes through, there will be no more Beats products, just Apple stuff, and I never buy Apple, so I won't have to even think about that :D

Journeyman Geek

lol

@allquixotic: especially since I finally have a way of having a reasonably sized music playing setup with vast amounts of storage without an ipod ;p

Bob

@allquixotic This is hilarious.

Because Apple is buying a company known for their overpriced, crappy products sold on brand name.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: perfect synergy

allquixotic

01:50

I say, the FTC should approve the acquisition enthusiastically

"you two are perfect for eachother."

the people who are caught up within the reality distortion field will take it as a compliment

"why thank you! we're going to make the BEST products EVER!"

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: I don't really see beats as being a monopoly anyway ;p

sabgenton

Is there any way to get instant read access to the middle of say /dev/sda?

like dd you would have to seek to it wish would take forever

Journeyman Geek

>_>

allquixotic

@sabgenton dd if=/dev/sda bs=1 skip=10000000 count=64 > output.txt or so

and no, seeking does not "take forever"

Journeyman Geek

What are you actually trying to do?

allquixotic

01:55

if seeking "took forever" then installing a new program on your system would take about 92 years

sabgenton

@allquixotic really? I've tried it in the past it reads every bit of hardrive till it gets there

you example is not many bytes

like skip 100G in

@allquixotic what about seeking

writing

@JourneymanGeek I want to write to unalocated space

unpartitioned

just moving stuff around

Nick Alexeev

The generator itself would keep track of GUIDs that it has generated. It wouldn't keep track of other generators.
The calendar time would come from some web-based time service, which wouldn't have to be accessed frequently.

allquixotic

@sabgenton seeking when you write should create a sparse file on supported file systems

sabgenton

whaa

allquixotic

if you don't create a sparse file because your filesystem doesn't support it, then yes, seeking in the output file will take a long time (and use up a lot of disk space) if you seek way into the file

but block devices are handled differently than normal files

if you seek into a block device, it'll take effect immediately

sabgenton

02:05

@allquixotic dd if=someimage.img of=/dev/sda bs=1M seek=50000

allquixotic

@sabgenton /dev/sda is a block device, so my explanation thereof applies to that

Bob

@NickAlexeev the problem is, GUIDs are supposed to be globally unique

that is no guarantee that some other GUID generator somewhere hasn't generated the same GUID

allquixotic

also, a busy system having to keep track of all GUIDs it's ever generated? unless it needs to do that anyway (using them as database keys, for instance), that could take up a lot of space, fast

sabgenton

@allquixotic sorry didn't qute get you but my last example will write the image file 50 GB in to the disk right?

(no sparseing)

allquixotic

@sabgenton yes

Bob

02:08

@allquixotic I find it fun to use functional stuff (LINQ extension methods, JS's map/reduce/etc.) when I can :D

allquixotic

@sabgenton a block device is sparse by definition

@Bob wait. JS has map/reduce? wow

sabgenton

oh ok

Bob

@allquixotic developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/…

It's pretty sweet :D

I actually like JS more than Java at the moment

sabgenton

@allquixotic any way my last example will take a lot of time right?

allquixotic

@Bob map-reduce is embarrassingly parallel, isn't it? it's exactly the kind of thing they use supercomputers for

sabgenton

02:09

writing takes time when you seek I mean right?

allquixotic

throw individual pieces of the map-reduce on the dataset on millions of CUDA cores...

@sabgenton if someimage.img is a very small file, it shouldn't take any time at all

Bob

@allquixotic Oh, not MapReduce.

The individual functions that make it up.

> The model is inspired by the map and reduce functions commonly used in functional programming,[2] although their purpose in the MapReduce framework is not the same as in their original forms.

MapReduce

MapReduce is a programming model for processing large data sets with a parallel, distributed algorithm on a cluster. A MapReduce program is composed of a Map() procedure that performs filtering and sorting (such as sorting students by first name into queues, one queue for each name) and a Reduce() procedure that performs a summary operation (such as counting the number of students in each queue, yielding name frequencies). The "MapReduce System" (also called "infrastructure" or "framework") orchestrates by marshalling the distributed servers, running the various tasks in parallel, managing...

Not the same thing :P

I'm talking about the FP functions. Not the giant supercomputer stuff.

allquixotic

MapReduce is one of the things they want engineers to start learning how to use or apply in the analysis of "big data" as part of our performance goals for next year, at work -_-

I need to learn how to do that with e.g. Hadoop

sabgenton

@allquixotic really like even if I was seeking 500GB into the disk it would be fairly instant?

allquixotic

I wonder if there are map-reduce extension methods for C#. combine it with AsParallel<T> and holy cow :D

sabgenton

02:12

I will have to go try but I remmber doing it before and dd seeked for ever before actauly writing the image

allquixotic

@sabgenton yes. as I said way above, seeking doesn't take time, unless you're seeking waaaaaay into a normal file (not a block device like /dev/sda) on a filesystem that does not support sparse files

@sabgenton you were probably doing it wrong

sabgenton

aaaaaaah

sory

allquixotic

or unless you were using a tape drive

seeking takes time on tape drives :P

sabgenton

@allquixotic so seeking into large files takes forevery but not block devices

?

Bob

@allquixotic I wonder if anyone's hacked AsParallel into GPGPU

allquixotic

02:14

@Bob AMD sort of did that in Java, but it's nowhere near as simple as that sounds

they have to compile an equivalent OpenCL kernel for whatever operation you're trying to parallelize

and without hand optimization it's often terribly slow because of the architecture of GPUs

sabgenton

@allquixotic if what your saying is true I must have don't it on a virtual disk image ors something

Bob

@allquixotic ya, I guessed that

but the concept sounds great

allquixotic

@Bob actually, since Intel Xeon Phi runs x86 code, you could theoretically run your program natively on a Xeon Phi (you could run your whole OS on it) and AsParallel<T> or its Java/C/C++ equivalent would automatically, by virtue of the architecture, use all the thousands of CUDA-esque cores in the processor :D

Xeon Phi is basically like having a 60-core Ivy Bridge

sabgenton

@allquixotic should seeking into a partition all so be just as fast? (/dev/sda3)

Bob

@allquixotic For the price of 600 Ivy Bridges :P

allquixotic

02:16

@sabgenton that's a block device, so yes

sabgenton

yeah sorry fairly obvious

ok thanks will go to it then cheers

allquixotic

@Bob yeah, but for space efficiency it's king; the equivalent number of CPUs, even on 4-CPU boards, would take up a lot more space than a dual-slot GPU-sized card

if you have X m^3 of volume to stick servers in and you need as much x86 parallel processing as possible and you aren't willing or able (for some reason) to write optimized OpenCL kernels that run well on modern AMD or Nvidia GPU architectures, and money is no object, Xeon Phi is for you

that's quite a niche, but still, people buy them

mostly governments and actuarial corporations and financial firms and such

Journeyman Geek

If you're buying something like that, you're probably going to get better pricing since you're buying in bulk, and have a budget beyond us mere mortals ;p

allquixotic

yeah, you could probably negotiate a good price on 1000 of them

buying just one retail, however, is hard on the budget. super hard.

Intel: "So you want 1000 Xeon Phis? Okay, can we fly you a sales rep tomorrow to discuss the terms?"

Bob

@allquixotic dat heat though

Nick Alexeev

02:22

@Bob MAC addr would take care of global uniqueness (i.e. uniqueness across multiple machines).

allquixotic

@Bob eh. TDP of 300 Watts. you can easily surpass that wattage with a small handful of full-scale server Xeons (any generation)

the big, big server Xeons are like 155 W, IIRC.

I still couldn't actually recommend a Xeon Phi without a ridiculous amount of working, tested x86 code that would cost more than the Xeon Phis plus their power consumption to rewrite in terms of OpenCL kernels or CUDA

a dozen FirePro or Tesla cards gives you more TFLOPS with the ONLY challenge being writing your algorithm to fit well within the GPU architecture

Bob

@NickAlexeev said this before, MAC addresses are not guaranteed to be globally unique

@allquixotic Some tasks just aren't well-suited for GPUs though.

Often the really memory-heavy stuff.

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_radio

> By the nature of their operation, crystal radios can only demodulate amplitude modulation (AM) signals, and not frequency modulation (FM) or digital signals.

so yeah, building your own FM radio out of spare junk sounds significantly harder than AM

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: I told you ;p

allquixotic

of course, building your own digital radio out of spare junk, assuming you don't have a spare software-defined radio complete with antenna, power source, DSP and microcontroller, is nearly impossible :P

to make matters worse, FM radio in the U.S. is almost universally stereo multiplexed, which means not only do you need to demodulate the frequency, but you have to demux the separate audio channels

it's analog enough that you could probably do it with access to precision instruments, but it's advanced analog because you have to do stuff to the signal before you can get it into audible sound

Journeyman Geek

02:31

yup

You could do it with tubes ;p

allquixotic

yeah

Bob

@allquixotic *glances at DAB+ USB receiver on the table*

Heh. It's one of those Realtek things that can pick up DAB, DVB and FM. It also works well as a SDR :P

commonly known as the rtlsdr

allquixotic

@Bob I really want DAB to become widespread in the US. we did the digital transition just fine for TV; what about radio?!

as odd as it sounds, I wish Psycogeek were here to participate in this conversation; I have a feeling this is the kind of thing he'd know a lot about

Journeyman Geek

I want/need one of those ;p

allquixotic

he has funny opinions about more modern softwarey stuff, but he knows electronics

my roomie in California during my internship was a ham radio operator

should've learned from him while i had the chance

such important stuff

Journeyman Geek

02:40

@allquixotic: I'm pretty certain he should have stayed with windows 98 ;p

allquixotic

lol

Bob

@allquixotic FM receivers are cheap. DAB(+) costs an arm and a leg.

Also, the difference between analog and digital TV is clear.

Radio? Not as obvious.

allquixotic

@Bob speak for yourself :P at least for AM radio around here, we have ridiculous amounts of interference

FM radio, not a lot of interference, but the signal dies if you so much as go under a bridge

Journeyman Geek

We're cutting out digital TV

allquixotic

most problems can be smoothed out by buffering with digital

especially when you're in a moving vehicle where the signal is highly variable

there's no analog buffering :P

Bob

02:47

@allquixotic well, I was talking about FM

allquixotic

@Bob true -- our FM sounds very nice in the car with good speakers

not sure what the equivalent PSNR would be in digital but it's very listenable

lower than CD quality though

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic: also frees up bandwidth, and we have cable everywhere anyway so ...

allquixotic

hmm, this weekend I'll mess around with shortwave

might try to pick up 11.745 Voice of Free China out of Taipei

Journeyman Geek

o0

Bob

@allquixotic I'm spending far too much time thinking of my next KSP build...

allquixotic

02:55

@Bob hehehehe

Bob

How does one take off from eve anyway?

Debating sending a probe :P

allquixotic

03:14

@Bob some combination of a very light craft and very strong thrust.

it's a real pita

it has a gravity well of 5g (where 1g = kerbin)

you thought getting into kerbin orbit was hard? lol, try getting into kerbin orbit, getting an eve encounter, landing, then having enough fuel and thrust to get into an eve orbit :P

also, landing is super difficult with the gravity as high as it is, because the atmosphere of Eve (yes, it has an atmosphere to slow you down, thank god!) will only slow you part of the way; you have to fight gravity with your engines all the way down

and I've heard that you can tear off your parachute if you try to use a parachute to kill your vertical velocity on landing, because of the thick atmosphere and high speed

so you have to slow down a lot just with the engines

your first parabolic encounter with Eve will probably make you equally giddy with glee at the incredible power of its gravity well, and horrified at the resulting dramatic explosion of your hand-built beloved spacecraft and kerbals

you'll be likely to say, "DAMN that planet is strong!"

Journeyman Geek

03:52

I just realised mini snauzers look a little like ewoks...

granted, most fuzzy terriers do

HackToHell

04:24

HackToHell

04:53

forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/…

wow the size of the ship

Fuck I need a new PC

Boris_yo

05:08

@HackToHell Don't lick yellow marker please.

@HackToHell For KSP?

HackToHell

@Boris_yo yeah

@Boris_yo Apparent;ly it's pollen

Boris_yo

3rd picture seems like human's emotion...

Bob

05:28

@HackToHell Doesn't look that big. Shitload of chutes, though.

Journeyman Geek

0

Q: Can I install Ubuntu AMD64 14.04 on my Lenovo G505s

I have a system with these specs,should I try and install Ubuntu 14.04 AMD64 or should I try Ubuntu 64bit.

o0

"Should I run Ubuntu 64 bit or Ubuntu 64 bit?

er

Thats odd

Bob

!!tell 15426796 yes

Journeyman Geek

ahh, for a moment the link hadn't oneboxed

ChatBot John Cavil

Journeyman Geek

05:45

I closed that. Its just too confusing. He can always fix up his question to make more sense

HackToHell

@bob ^^

It apparently took 5 takeoffs to assemble that

Paul

@HackToHell Where is that going? Eve?

Wow, lots of animals on chat today.

I want to put a view of a webpage onto a Windows 7 desktop. Just a little "status" type website. It doesn't need any chrome, or interaction, just display only. Proably only 400px x 125px. This was probably straightforward when Windows gadgets were a thinkg... what is a good way to do this now?

Bob

@Paul sounds like the old active desktop :P

Active Desktop

Active Desktop was a feature of Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0's optional Windows Desktop Update that allows the user to add HTML content to the desktop, along with some other features. This function was intended to be installed on the then-current Windows 95 operating system. It was also included in Windows 98 and later Windows operating systems until Windows Vista, where the feature was discontinued. This corresponded to version Internet Explorer 4.0 to 6.x, but not Internet Explorer 7. Users can add HTML both in place of the regular wallpaper and as independent resizable desktop it...

HackToHell

@Paul To eve and back i believe

Bob

3

A: Active desktop for Windows 7 (Vista)?

Windows Vista and 7 do not include Active Desktop I believe. The closest thing to it is probably Ave's DesktopSites:

8

A: Active desktop for Windows 7 (Vista)?

I'm using Snippage to add live web pages to my desktop via Adobe AIR. works great.

Alternatively you could probably DIY a simple program with minimize disabled?

Boris_yo

06:04

Anyone aware of Windows Secrets website that charges to view complete articles written by experts?

Bob

"experts"

Boris_yo

@Bob They have a good history in computing according to their bio. While we were kids, they ahd their careers established by that time.

Ash

why ?

HackToHell

@Ash check date

reddit.com/r/Dogecoin_PR/comments/24zbca/…

Boris_yo

06:31

@HackToHell @Ash Heartbleed not yet patched?

Paul

@Bob Yeah, I was planning to knock something up, but was hoping not to.

Ash

@HackToHell date is ok.Fri May 9 12:05:29 IST 2014

@Boris_yo OpenSSL 1.0.1g 7 Apr 2014

" vent heard in ever " is that a mistake or does it mean something ?

Sathya

@Ash click on technical details & post screenshot

Ash

06:51

@Sathya I restarted firefox and now its not showing up.

but is this normal ?

Sathya

@Ash without knowing more, idk

Ash

but I use it often.

Sathya

07:11

@Ash then corrupted profile i guess

Ash

ahh...

is that something to do with firefox profile or ...

Is it something to do with adding "profile" to my kernel parameters

Sathya

most likely firefox profile

Ash

( I recently changed GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="profile" )

it was "quiet splash" before that

Sathya

07:28

@Ash no relation to above

Sathya

07:48

this is Stack Overflow for now but the new profile page is damn cool

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Q: Profile Page Makeover, Part 2: the Prototype

Wow, that took longer than expected (though right around the 6-8 week mark), but we finally have a semi-working prototype of the new profile page. Recap There’s a longer explanation on part 1 but the gist of it is this: we’re splitting the profile into two pages: An “About Me” page which is w...

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joejoe31b

08:38

@Sathya This looks AMAZING! I hope it gets rolled out to all of the SE sites (eventually).

Oliver Salzburg

08:53

So I was just connected to a client who got himself browsersafeguard installed

Which is generating 504 errors all over the place

Does that imply that all his HTTP traffic is routed through one of their servers or something?

He also reported a general "slowness" on the webs

God would I love to author malware myself. It seems like so much fun

Boris_yo

@OliverSalzburg To name malware?

Oliver Salzburg

@Boris_yo I'm just going to say "yes"

Boris_yo

09:13

@OliverSalzburg A simple "Yes" would be enough sir

Why not try? See how viral it could go on Facebook, overloading and crashing their servers and ultimately resulting in this event mentioned in human history.

Oliver Salzburg

@Boris_yo I guess, I don't want people to hate me, that's why

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: Its facebook, It would be a public service

Oliver Salzburg

09:37

Crashing systems is not the kind of malware I had in mind anyway

I prefer the kind that bugs you to install more malware constantly and then does it no matter if you agree or not

And occasionally, it will simply swallow mouse clicks and single keys from the keyboard input, just to fuck with you

Michael Frank

10:12

@OliverSalzburg Ransomware is the way to go. ;D

But not system wide, just like "If you want to run MS Word please pay $X.XX"

Journeyman Geek

no no

You do that with WOW ;p

Michael Frank

hahahaha

Oliver Salzburg

@JourneymanGeek Isn't WOW itself already doing that?

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: Why let them have all the fun? ;p

Oliver Salzburg

Doing it with websites would probably be neat

> Your free Facebook membership has expired. Please click here to sign up for our premium service and stay in touch with all your friends

Then show a grid labeled "All these of your friends have already subscribed (and they're LOVING IT!!):"

Boris_yo

10:58

Why forums restrict the size of image to be pulled from anothe source?
I can't embed 117K image on forum that does not even store that image.

WTH?

Why restrict people from something that does not belong to you?

Journeyman Geek

11:11

cause it slows down loading

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Do you know responsive Excel forum?

Journeyman Geek

No

and what is "resposive"?

Boris_yo

We don't have Excel community on SO or SE?

@JourneymanGeek With less lurkers and more helpers

Oliver Salzburg

@Boris_yo I know a website where you can ask about problems with Excel and people can post answers and then you vote on those answers and stuff

You've probably never heard of it. It's called Super User

Boris_yo

@OliverSalzburg No it's not Excel related. It's PC and troubleshooting related.

Oliver Salzburg

11:40

microsoft-excel disagrees

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