Root Access

allquixotic

00:03

@CanadianLuke heh, there's a lot of truth to the varying degree of quality in wifi tech between enterprise-class and consumer-grade

Canadian Luke

Yup

We have 3 different SSIDs, with different access to different VLANs, so we have a public and private network setup. Plus, they can handle over 50 clients per AP

allquixotic

as far back as 2004, my former university had on-premises 802.11ab access points covering most buildings, and they provided a degree of connection reliability and speed that I'm only now starting to see on the very latest 802.11ac consumer stuff

they used the same ones for the entire time I was studying there

Michael Frank

jswanson

31 1

poor guy.

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank indeed -- he asked that question almost a year ago, and has gotten numerous upvotes, but not even a comment to help him :(

ah, hell with it. I'm going to donate some of the rep I earned today on this bad answer to a bounty to see if we can get some answers on that q

Michael Frank

00:23

thedailywtf.com/Articles/Social-Insecurity-Number.aspx

...Why is the top "Prudential Retirement Access" blurred out, but the PRA references under the questions still visible? Silly users!

nhinkle

Hmm. Apparently current moderators can nominate themselves...

allquixotic

@nhinkle that should be a bug on MSE for sure

unfortunately I can't provide a screenshot or reproduce it because I'm not a mod :(

otherwise I'd post it myself

nhinkle

superuser.com/election/3#post-744424

About to go post a bug report.

9

Q: Elected moderators can nominate themselves

The second round of gaming elections has just started, and I can nominate myself again, despite having won the first round of election. I understand this isn't going to be easy to fix, given that SE only knows about community mods, employees and developer roles, and pro-tempore mods need to be...

support status-bydesign election

Evidently it's by design.

For posterity, I shall copy my eloquent nomination post here:

> I am would like to be modrator. I have many good skill for to delete and questions. If ban user, that good, but user have to go. Please do the needful to vote for me.

Michael Frank

...

I tried to comment.

I guess I'll have to just comment here:

ALL HAIL THE FIRST DOUBLE DIAMOND. (/º_º)/ ♦♦

2

nhinkle

@MichaelFrank I deleted the nomination, so I assume it wouldn't let you comment.

Michael Frank

00:33

@nhinkle Yea, you were too fast.

nhinkle

@MichaelFrank also if multi-diamonds were a thing, ChrisF would have had 5 before the Meta split; 4 now. stackexchange.com/about/moderators?by=users

Michael Frank

@nhinkle Fair point.

Bob

Mod elections already? O.O

So, who's running?

Michael Frank

0

Q: Is ReactOS a viable replacement for Windows XP?

As Windows XP is now out of support and any freshly discovered vulnerabilities will not be addressed, it's time to retire Windows XP from my Internet-connected computers. There's a lot of Windows-specific software installed on these machines, and that locks the machines into a binary-compatible e...

windows-xp wine

WAT

allquixotic

@Bob me, JManGeek, Luke, DragonLord...

Evan Carroll. -_-

Bob

00:38

@allquixotic Hmm... should I bother... nah :P

Michael Frank

@allquixotic Explain? I saw the nomination, but that's the entirety of my interaction with him.

Bob

I don't do much editing/cleanup anyway :\

Eh, I'll be back in a bit.

nhinkle

@Bob the usual suspects, and the... well, usual suspects.

@MichaelFrank Evan is the network's resident troll.

Michael Frank

@nhinkle I... should have gathered that from his nomination... rambling.

nhinkle

He nominates himself in pretty much every election.

Evan Carroll, Houston, TX

707 9 24

discussion feature-request status-completed support stackoverflow hyperlinks bug

allquixotic

01:04

@nhinkle do you think SE would take some action if he actually got elected somehow?

it's a "Mickey Mouse for President!" type situation

nhinkle

@allquixotic It's so unlikely that he'll ever get elected that it's not really worth talking about, but it's been mentioned once or twice.

Michael Frank

Is the election process automated?

nhinkle

@MichaelFrank I'm not sure about the details, but there is a delay between when voting ends and diamonds are handed out. I believe some manual action is required but I don't know what that looks like.

allquixotic

(wild guess) it's probably SE's chance to veto any community elections they view as untenable

2

maybe that's where EC would be caught and denied

anyone know where I can buy this music legally online? positionmusic.com/album.php?id=134

I can listen to it right there on the page... but I don't want to download it illegally D:

nhinkle

I can neither confirm nor deny what SE's connections to the NSA are, and how they would or would not (if they do or do not exist) be used in the event of an EC Election situation.

3

Michael Frank

01:19

@allquixotic I.... couldn't find it anywhere except for 1 physical copy on Amazon.ca

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank ya. I searched iTunes, Rhapsody and Amazon MP3. I'm outta options. D:

allquixotic

01:35

sigh, this describes places I work (or have worked at) perfectly -_- thedailywtf.com/Articles/Secure-Development.aspx @Bob

Journeyman Geek

01:50

Its nice to see ec changed his election stump. Probably cause the old one referenced Atwood heavily

Michael Frank

> Twitch Plays SU Mod – Pato Sáinz 4 hours ago

allquixotic

02:06

thecodinglove.com/post/52043947786/…

Michael Frank

@allquixotic He's totally going to say 'ham'.

allquixotic

Michael Frank

Blocked :/

allquixotic

thecodinglove.com/post/83078818304/…

Bob

@allquixotic that's technically our parent company's policy too

Michael Frank

02:12

-21

Q: Convert PDF to exe to raise security

I have some PDFs I want convert all to .exe files and put them into folder on my CD and my customers run .exe files instead of PDF and for security reasons. so I have tried "pdf2exe" tools but I need something totally free. pdf2exe is evaluation version and there are some limitations. Please te...

pdf executable pdf-reader exe

Bob

list all installed software, needs approval, etc, etc

Michael Frank

@allquixotic Still blocked, probably at the minus.com domain level.

allquixotic

@Bob my Customer (whose network I connect to and computers I use) has a similar policy, but even people who work for the Customer violate it on a daily basis

@MichaelFrank drat.

Bob

But the in-company it head and admins don't give a shit

allquixotic

I think ours give a shit but are too dumb to do anything about it

Bob

02:13

"Just don't tell us what you do"

allquixotic

our local guys are even funnier. I was "allowed" to install Cygwin without so much as a sniff test, but updating Nvidia drivers from Q2 2010 are a big !!no

Michael Frank

@Bob I'm working for a bank currently. Can you imagine the policies needed here? I had to request approval to install a USB > VGA adapter today, because it's not an approved practise to have 3 monitors on your computer.

allquixotic

let me see, which grumpy no is this one..

!!no

ChatBot John Cavil

allquixotic

ah yes, the one I like. where her bottom lip is buttoned up tight, like, "Nope. Sorry."

@MichaelFrank you're allowed to request approval for installing USB -> VGA adapters? it's not standard practice to have 3 monitors here, either, but if I requested approval for it, they would most likely ignore my request

also, just ordering such a device would probably cost $2000 and take 6 months

and they would want to "get one for everybody" (upping the cost to $200,000) even if they got permission to do it

this organization doesn't believe in individual needs

Michael Frank

02:18

@allquixotic Yep. Provided I do some testing to make sure it's not going to do anything bad -_-

@allquixotic i3s and 2GB for everyone?

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank 4 GB, but you're spot on with the i3. Sandy Bridge i3.

Bob

that reminds me, I need to request more RAM

allquixotic

I requested more RAM once. I was told that they don't have budget to upgrade everyone's RAM, and they don't want to give anyone special hardware so they wouldn't do it just for me.

Michael Frank

@Bob Just download it from that site everyone knows about.

allquixotic

apparently we're going to be upgraded to IE 9 (wow!) and Windows 7 64-bit (double wow!) some time later this year

Office 2013 is budgeted for next year

probably won't drop Windows 7 until 2017-2018 though

Michael Frank

02:22

@allquixotic We're one step ahead of you there! We're using 7x64, but still on IE8. :<

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank they claim they hang on to ancient browsers forever for "security", yet the exact opposite effect occurs because IE 8 has a lot of long-standing security issues that will never be fixed :)

Bob

ie11 here. With 7, 8 on an xp vm

Psycogeek

@allquixotic thats crasy, why would a office worker doing word processing have any requirement for the same computer as (say) the video department. Or CAD design team, or even various developers who would understand such hardware.

Bob

had to test our webapp on 11... that broke a lot of shit

allquixotic

IT people who make those decisions should be forced to live in the same size room as their child (no enlarged master bedroom) and should be forced to make minimum wage "because it's enough for everybody"

Michael Frank

02:25

@allquixotic I guess that's common sentiment with upgrading browsers. I imagine the app team would need to do a hell of a lot of testing to ensure that all current systems will work with a newer browser.

allquixotic

@Psycogeek I never said it made sense. they're idiots. absolute imbeciles.

@MichaelFrank nonsense -- IE's backwards compatibility is excellent, as long as you aren't in Metro mode

if it somehow didn't work with some decrepit app written in 2005, they should tell that app team to update their damn app

> You've earned the "Sportsmanship" badge. See your profile.

!!yes

ChatBot John Cavil

allquixotic

closing in on satisfying all the election badges ;-)

Bob

@allquixotic the backwards compatibility broke in 11 -_-

allquixotic

@Bob Windows 8.1 Update 1 apparently improved the IE 8 compatibility mode of IE 11 Desktop.

(or so I read in a KB article)

Bob

02:31

It won't satisfy the tag telling it to drop to 7, but won't take the webkit and moz css either

@allquixotic we (and most customers) are on 7

no win8 here, except in my vm

oh, and a couple laptops

Canadian Luke

I dislike Windows 8 for how our school district uses it

Michael Frank

@CanadianLuke How do they use it? Randomly? Incorrectly?

Canadian Luke

Well, on Surface Pros. But the tech department decided to block all the fancy Windows 8 features (logging in with MS account, using the store, etc) in order to make it line up with our notebook policy. So their reaction?

They look like idiots leaning over on their desk swiping left and right for 20 minutes per day

allquixotic

the only correct way to use Windows 8 is to use Windows 8.1 Update 1 with boot to desktop and the start menu (-ish) back, or Start8 installed

Michael Frank

@allquixotic That reminds me, I must install Start8 and MetroMix when I get home.

Psycogeek

02:37

I never understood swiping, thought it was an apple thing, now I are one :-) used to be one press of a button did the same thing as a swipe. I got used to it fast, and it is a great way to scroll. I never got used to a trackpad either, even after forcing myself to use it.

One example of button vrses swipe, the buttons would be out of the users viewport, swipe is putting my fat fingers in the view.

Michael Frank

@Psycogeek It's not often you'll be viewing important info AND swiping at the same time.

Canadian Luke

It's painful

Psycogeek

@MichaelFrank well nothing i do is important :-) but why wouldnt a person want to see while they are swiping?

Canadian Luke

The tablets cost $990, then $110 for the typing cover, then $50 for the Mini-DP to VGA adapter, $100 for the monitor, $25 for the 4-port non-powered USB hub that doesn't work properly, and $20 for the keyboard/mouse. Plus, since we aren't a MS-certified repair shop (we've got a contract with Dell), we can't fix it!

Whereas the notebook with a bigger screen, and most of what a user needs built in, is only $600

Plus, 3 year warranty with our Dell machines

allquixotic

@CanadianLuke are these Surface Pro 1s?

Canadian Luke

02:42

Yup

allquixotic

ugh

Canadian Luke

Being bought behind my back

allquixotic

whose great idea was that?

Canadian Luke

The two principals at my school. They feel they know technology more than the tech

I inherited quite a mess... That's why I have so much rep on SF and Unix.SE

allquixotic

I mean, a Surface Pro 2 is a nice device, but it sounds like the way you have them deployed is quite horrid

Canadian Luke

02:45

Well, we also don't have MS servers, so I can't deploy them the way MS wants us to

We have Clonezilla (a special version that boots off USB), and have to store the image on a USB drive. So it's one at a time

The notebooks, we can use Clonezilla or Fog, netboot them, and have them imaged to the desktop in under 15 minutes

Psycogeek

@CanadianLuke And those are cooly and totally walk around portable too right? So how many of them move off the desks , or are used portably?

Canadian Luke

AND the Fog images automatically sign them into the domain

NONE

Cause that department does so much typing, they're useless

Psycogeek

@CanadianLuke Well then be sure to get promoted to the purchacing department, sounds like there is a lot of perks :-)

Canadian Luke

Purchasing is pissed too though

Politics, politics, politics!

Psycogeek

One of my friends got promoted to purchacing at a gov place, and he was exstatic, which was odd because he was always hands-on kinda person. He liked it because of having been cut off from funding his projects for so long . . . duhh that he no longer does? I guess there was more to it.

Canadian Luke

02:51

Meh. I like my job, not gonna lie... But some things just make me shake my head

Good thing they give me extended medical coverage, so I can see the chiropractor so much!

jk

allquixotic

> guy who knows how to troubleshoot and knows wtf he's talking about asks question on SU

> hell freezes over

1

Q: AMD Clean Uninstall Utility Deleted ALL AMD drivers. Mouse and Keyboard Completely Unresponsive

So I tried updating to Catalyst 14.4 Beta from Catalyst 14.3 Beta, which just came out today. For some reason the screen went black, with a command line cursor blinking on the top left. It was there for about five minutes at least, so I went to prepare some food. I came back to the same screen ab...

windows-7 drivers keyboard graphics-card mouse

hell is officially frozen

Psycogeek

@allquixotic If he knew what it looked like inside there when installing catalyst drivers , he would have a backup of the system first :-) Let alone when trying to remove it all.

Michael Frank

@allquixotic I had an issue recently with my Func gaming mouse. Win8 would refuse to pick up the mouse unless the drivers were installed first.

Canadian Luke

You know what? I'm gonna go cook some perogies!

Psycogeek

I trace the install of catalyst , and it is one of the largest registry changes in the top 5.

allquixotic

03:03

> .. , but it does show that Windows 7, incredibly, is already starting to become an older operating system compared to Windows 8.1. It's not as dead (or undead) as Windows XP, and it's not quite as long in the tooth as Longhorn (er, ahem, Vista -- I just had to throw that pun in there!), but ...

now you all shall feel the pun-pain with me

Braiam

!!info yes

ChatBot John Cavil

@Braiam Command yes, created by Gowtham on Wed, 27 Nov 2013 02:13:58 GMT, invoked 1 times

Braiam

!!help yes

ChatBot John Cavil

@Braiam yes: User-taught command: <>http://i.stack.imgur.com/ifgli.jpg

Braiam

@ChatBotJohnCavil @allquixotic why "invoked 1 times"? it should be "invoked 1 time"

allquixotic

03:08

@Braiam every time the bot restarts (every 24 hours), it forgets previous invocations

it remembers the commands but not their invocations

oh. you are talking about the grammar

Braiam

:(

allquixotic

pfft....

EWONTFIX

Michael Frank

because 'x times' would only be incorrect once. ;D

Braiam

nah, you were spot on, but I wanted to see if Jeff comes by with his BIG S

allquixotic

BIG S?

Braiam

03:10

No matter what happens, I'm bringing my giant "S"! And I'm gonna use it! — Jeff Atwood ♦ Apr 9 at 19:52

allquixotic

lol

Braiam

I was typing "giant S" but didn't sound good :(

Psycogeek

0

Q: Why is DNS the first thing to go when my connection is busy?

It seems like whenever I have reached the apparent limits of my download/upload rate (or just been throttled), the first thing that will start to slow or timeout completely is DNS lookups. Normally I would just chalk that up to DNS being the first request needed to do most activities, but what's ...

networking dns throttling

Canadian Luke

Back

Psycogeek

Do DNS connections stay "half open" like other connections can? I never paid much attention to them, when looking at the other connections.

Because i think the answer (actually opinion) falls along the lines of the other "connections" are already made, and a new call for DNS is a new connection.

Michael Frank

03:22

I super wish my touchscreen pc didn't have a broken touchscreen panel :(

I would 100% install Hearthstone on it and frame it on the wall.

Psycogeek

@MichaelFrank luckily lots of people break em, so there is usually a replacement avilable and even instructions.

Michael Frank

@Psycogeek Yea, I've got no issue with replacing it, but finding a replacement has proven difficult.

Psycogeek

Well if you have to get it replaced by manufacture/seller company, then the wall it is :-)

Some things get amazing prices for broken on e-bay, but it is likely the ones where it is known that the broken part has replacement.

EX: who would pay $150 for a broken screen phone, when it is $250 for the non broken. It was because the part could be found for $70. Still not worth it for me.

allquixotic

03:42

@MichaelFrank I've got the best deals anywhere! *draws a 10 cost golden legendary Touchscreen*

*plays the Touchscreen* BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ (gentle electrical hum)

quick! play Mind Control Tech! (I've got 3 Murloc Raiders and the legendary Touchscreen on my board)

if I could design my own heartstone cards......

Michael Frank

@allquixotic You probably could if you got into OCTGN.

allquixotic

;p

Michael Frank

I had an amazing run with my f2p priest deck the other day. from 24 to 17 without a loss. :)

allquixotic

I have some neat ideas for interesting cards

a 3/1 Timid Fox for 3 mana -- card text -- Charge. When enemy plays a minion, return to owner's hand.

you can play it out to deal 3 damage but the enemy can only kill it with spells or minions that are already set up on the board :)

probably be useful if you can maintain board control and keep pecking away at the enemy's hp

Michael Frank

@allquixotic I like that card idea.

allquixotic

03:55

how about a complement to the Lightwell, but with a twist: Bonfire: 0/4 for 3 mana. Card text: At the end of your turn, lose 1 Maximum Health, and add 1 Maximum Health to all other friendly minions.

Michael Frank

I'd be interested in more items being in the game. Coming from playing the actual TCG, I think all heroes should have some form of equipment that can use.

allquixotic

or... how about a new neutral creature...
Alert Watchman: 3/3 for 3 mana -- card text: Prevent the next enemy creature with Charge from attacking on the same turn they are played.

(the card text "burns out" after one charge creature is stopped, to prevent it from being OP)

Bob

Damn. I'm playing rep catchup to @allquixotic again :P

Michael Frank

spam

-2

A: retain last used path to location for saving files in Windows 7

Thanks for your answers. Very nice. Software Development

allquixotic

@Bob you should run for mod anyway; we need some solid people running to counterbalance the horror that is EC (and to a lesser degree, HopelessN00b)

Bob

04:01

@allquixotic Eh, pretty obv @JourneymanGeek has one slot, and you probably have the other :P

allquixotic

@Bob me? doubtful... I'd put money on either DragonLord or CanadianLuke

although it depends on whether people vote by rep like they did last time

if people vote strictly by rep, based on the current candidates, I'm in

unless harrymc runs, and then I'm screwed

Michael Frank

Yea... I dunno if you could handle Italics AND the coveted ♦. :p

allquixotic

God, why people are so? Please, help these dudes, they need help quickly. — Spiderpork 5 mins ago

Bob

harrymc seems to have less community involvement than me

and that's saying something

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank lol

I'll admit to wanting to be a mod, but I've always felt that there are a lot of other people, even besides JourneymanGeek, who are more likely candidates than I

@Bob aside from answering questions with bounties, yeah.

no clue what drives that guy

Bob

04:08

heh

perhaps he sees bountied qs as hard ones?

hardly needs the rep

Psycogeek

If your going to play the points game, there is one way to win :-)

allquixotic

-2

Q: How to correctly install an operation system?

I would like to learn about computer management and maintenance: initially, I would like to learn how to correctly install an OS, what are the essential applications, drivers I have to install... what are the right "habits" to have and what are the prerequisites for being a good manager. For thi...

computer-building

@nhinkle I think you predicted the future when you posted that.

except that, instead of it being about moderators, it's about "installing an operation [sic] system".

Psycogeek

@allquixotic this one needs a blog, not an "answer".

Michael Frank

@allquixotic that 'do the needful...' part is something we get regularly here. Mostly from the Support team in Bangalore when they are flicking of jobs they don't want to do.

or we get "hi mate, kindly assist."

allquixotic

@MichaelFrank O_O

Australindian accent?

"mate" + Indian English? wut?

Michael Frank

04:18

@allquixotic yep!

allquixotic

that's got to be hilarious

lol. my Indian coworkers speak Indian English with a British accent, and leave out prepositions and always obsess over shortening sentences until they can send an email no longer than 2 lines :P

Bob

@allquixotic ...hit the nail on the head, there.

allquixotic

that's.... odd

I've never heard Australindian, thankfully

allquixotic

04:35

!!info

Bob

@allquixotic he died again?

sigh

allquixotic

@Bob nope, this time it's my fault :P

bot isnt happy with something in the js

Bob

@allquixotic need any help?

I'm currently busy procrastinating :P

allquixotic

seeing if it's the closure compiler borking it...

Bob

clo-... ... ...

Michael Frank

04:44

@Bob At least you're working hard. I'm sitting here waiting for the clock to hit five!

allquixotic

well, looks like xrdp is still running, so i guess there's that

Psycogeek

Russian computer help system

allquixotic

!!help

ChatBot John Cavil

@allquixotic Information on interacting with me can be found at this page

allquixotic

!!info

ChatBot John Cavil

04:55

@allquixotic I awoke on Tue, 22 Apr 2014 04:54:19 GMT (that's about 1 minute ago), got invoked 1 times, learned 70 commands

allquixotic

phew.

!!wiki test

ChatBot John Cavil

Test cricket

Test cricket is the longest form of the sport of cricket. Test matches are played between national representative teams with "Test status", as determined by the International Cricket Council (ICC). The two teams of 11 players play a four-innings match, which often lasts up to five days. It is generally considered the most complete examination of teams' playing ability and endurance. The origin of the name Test stems from the long, gruelling match being a "test" of the relative strength of the two sides. The first officially recognised Test match began on 15 March 1877, between England a...

allquixotic

@Bob applied 19 commits to master... got it running

still need to update Selenium to the latest release to support newer firefox; but updating selenium is a PITA because I have a custom patch against its java source to make it use the profile dir

only reason I'm even talking about Selenium is that the JS guys are slow on the Node port

Sathya

@nhinkle huh, I can't see that

Michael Frank

05:20

@ChatBotJohnCavil Best wiki page about tests.

Bob

05:47

@allquixotic o.O

Bob

06:13

:(

Bob

06:29

@allquixotic @MichaelFrank ^

Reddit: First day back at the office after Hearthstone is released on iPad

Sathya

haha

William Lawn Stewart

06:46

God dammit git submodules

Apparently when you have a submodule within a submodule, funny things start happening and everything gets horribly out of sync

nhinkle

07:43

@Sathya I withdrew :P

@allquixotic well I didn't just pull the style out of nowhere... I'm not that clever :P

Sathya

07:59

@nhinkle I got that, but I thought us Mods are able to see withdrawn entries

Bob

08:51

Hm.

@allquixotic You're using a NUC for routing, right?

What are you running on it?

I need to set up bandwidth throttling properly sometime :\

Bob

10:34

@allquixotic What I'm considering ^ did I miss anything?

Though, I might see if I can hammer the RPi into submission first (read: get it to work)

Psycogeek

@Bob Sweet. that computer costs less than the power it would take (in Ca) to run it.

Bob

@Psycogeek No, it doesn't (well, depends how long you're talking about).

The power brick is rated 65W max.

Idling? Maybe 10W?

Under $100 in electricity for a year.

Psycogeek

10:52

we pay as much as 35cents Per Kw for tier 4 power here, with tier 3 power at about 31 this month.

Bob

@Psycogeek ...

20c/kwh off-peak, 40c/kwh shoulder, 60c/kwh peak here

Psycogeek

some states get the same stuff for 7cents

Bob

That translates to about 56c/kwh USD peak

Still, that totals to $228 for a year at absolute max of 65W.

And it's not like I'm going to be running the thing at max.

As a router, it would be idle/near-idle most of the time.

An ADSL connection's max throughput doesn't use much CPU power.

Psycogeek

11:06

@Bob does anybody (yet) put a nice 6-7" screen on a normal router, soes a person can see what the little computer is doing in there?

If it has a 65W power supply, it certannly wouldnt be using 65Watts even after the usual inefficency.

@Bob We had a power plan here for some time that costs way more at peak, and way less (less then normal) at off peak. Worked out great as i would just turn everything off and go to sleep :-) on peak hours.

allquixotic

11:44

@Bob lol :)

@Bob Wanna blow something up? ... My career, that is!

@Bob not anymore! it basically just sits there now. -_- it was good while it lasted but i decided i prefer having the phone itself run wifi -- lower latency and such -- so I ponied up $30/month to Verizon so they'll let me legally use their unlimited wifi tethering >:D

hell i have half a mind to sell my NUC to you! because although it's a fantastic little linux boxy woxy, i already have a desktop more than capable of multi-booting, plus my surface pro and yoga 2, so i don't even have the "instant-on" excuse anymore

Bob

@allquixotic Well, did it work well while it lasted?

allquixotic

@Bob perf-wise, sure -- the box I have is considerably over-specced for the task of "being router" -- the only sucky part is setting it up to be a wifi router using hostapd, because it's just not easy, software-wise

Bob

I'm just trying to get the Pi to work.

@allquixotic I don't even need the wireless side :S

allquixotic

but you can't blame the hardware for hard to use software

@Bob even better then! :D

Bob

I just need a gateway that can perform traffic shaping.

The problem is getting that to work with just one eth port.

Can't use pfSense on a Pi, either.

allquixotic

11:48

rpi probably doesn't have enough throughput

Bob

@allquixotic enough for ADSL

allquixotic

O RITE. ADSL.

in that case, sure

Bob

lol

I can't fit a full-size computer near the routers/modem

@allquixotic So - was yours pure wireless?

pfSense seems to be the de facto standard custom router OS, but it's BSD

And I'm obviously more familiar with Linux :\

Hmm...

@Psycogeek eh, I do it remotely (SSH), but I could attach a screen if I wanted

oh wait, a normal router?

hrm.

some do have status displays

@Psycogeek Ya, the CPU has a max TDP of 17W.

mSATA SSD, DDR3L RAM... altogether? maybe another 5W. Add 2W for the wifi card? And 5-10W for the mobo?

And that's assuming it's all very inefficient

allquixotic

@Bob yea

Bob

Realistically, I'd expect it to consume no more than 15W while idle.

And that's pushing it.

Oliver Salzburg

12:01

@Bob Are you going to run for mod as well?

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Nah.

At least, I don't think so o.O

Psycogeek

an SSD uses less than 1 watt in the ready state even, some intel and samsungs only .3 watts still in the ready state, and most of them <4w maxed running. a 3.5in HD can take 2x that just idleing.

Bob

We've got plenty of good candidates, and I don't really help out enough (review queues, closing, editing) to be a mod.

Maybe next time. Maybe.

@Psycogeek Huh, that's less than I expected.

It's an Intel 30GB mSATA SSD. Probably uses close to nothing idle.

Psycogeek

I was just looking, the averaging out of it for normal running, is barely any power. so normal use in spurts, would average out way lower than the 4W

Bob

Still, it'll probably use more power than the RPi.

Along with the initial cost, that's why I want to try to get the RPi to do this first.

Michael Frank

12:11

@allquixotic Poor Druid... He had a 6/6 Taunt/Divine Shield, 7/5 Taunt, and another 6/6. He's also sitting on 1 health.

I have a 3/3, a 5/5, and a 2/1.

Zero cards in hand. I topdeck Fireball. GG.

allquixotic

12:57

@MichaelFrank MAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

also, unless he had an armor, you could just fireblast him

@Bob run anyway :( you have a chance

*!!meme firstWorldProblems*

caption:
running for mod election
gave away bounty
rep capped at +100

60 rep down the drain so far, plus the 100 for the bounty

allquixotic

13:39

wow. for a second, I thought Ramhound might be a mod candidate, but then I realized that most of his involvement is comments and low-voted answers... only 3k rep o_o

CBenni

13:50

So my drive on my server is mounted as noexec apparently

/etc/fstab is just
LABEL=DOROOT / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1

what do I do?

allquixotic

@CBenni what evidence do you have that it's mounted as noexec?

CBenni

Thats just what I found when searching, I get "permission denied" as root

allquixotic

that doesn't mean it's necessarily noexec. it may be read-only (ro) due to a FS error.

what does mount say?

CBenni

mount gives me pastebin.com/rwtvfNF9

well, I can execute pretty much anything, just bash scripts wont work in /var

I might just go chmod it to 777

allquixotic

try mount -o remount,exec,rw /

(as root)

CBenni

13:55

what exactly does that do, it remounts with exec and rw rights, on / ?

:D

allquixotic

@CBenni yes, it asks the FS to attempt to enable read-write and allowing the execution of binaries on the FS

although you may want to then determine the reason why it got mounted read-only or noexec in the first place

Bob

@CBenni Tip: never ever ever do that.

allquixotic

it wasn't mounted read-only or noexec by fstab, so most likely the FS encountered a read error and remounted itself read-only as a protection mechanism

CBenni

well, its a server on DigitalOcean

allquixotic

try looking at dmesg

CBenni

13:57

it must have been like that from the very beginning

Bob

@CBenni You can always try a fsck (after appropriate backups).

allquixotic

...or a read-only fsck, which is always safe

CBenni

eh, crap. how do I kill the current running process in a shell? ^C is getting caught

allquixotic

but according to ext4 (last I recall), their read-only fsck, while safe, may not return correct results if the FS is mounted

@CBenni try ^Z

CBenni

aw great, thanks ^.^

allquixotic

13:58

i forget the command to kill the background job, i usually use kill -9 on the pid once i get back to the shell

the job you just ^Z'ed out of is still running

Bob

@allquixotic kill -9 $!

CBenni

ah, lemme look at my process list

Bob

52

Q: linux: kill background task

How do I kill the last spawned background task in linux? Example: doSomething doAnotherThing doB & doC doD #kill doB ????

linux bash unix kill job-control

allquixotic

@Bob yeah but i thought there was a way to get rid of a background job that didn't involve using the kill command

Bob

but that's after a bg

CBenni

13:59

I am rather new to unix...

allquixotic

a bash builtin of some description

@Bob bg and ^Z are functionally equivalent, AFAIK

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