That felt evil :P

@OliverSalzburg I want to give a better answer using for /r, but I also want to sleep.

Sleep takes priority :P

(hint hint someone else answer)

:D

hello

groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/phantomjs/x1ApEdGD3GA

*sigh*

well if I wanna ask for port forwarding am I in the right place?

!!tell 13439792 hv

@EvilGoat sure, you can ask anything here you want (answer not guaranteed)

ok great

this is actually a bit of a dumb question probably but I will give it a shot

though you might want to take a look at portforward.com, they're a decent resource with detailed guides for specific models

yeah mine isnt in there

I have some knowledge with networks

and I know what port to set, protocol etc

also checked for the same ports in other routers and got some hints from them

however I do not know what local ip and remote ip to set

or how to find them for that matter

ah

remote IP is normally left blank, or 0.0.0.0

indicating accept any IP

ok that sounds very nice

local IP is the machine you want to forward to

and local?

well explain that a bit, I mean is it my machine's IP?

@EvilGoat if you want to forward to your machine, then yes

@Bob lol @ "Champs" and "Reddy" -- oh look, he's one of several million people in the Reddy caste in Andhra Pradesh -- and what does he sign his name as? Reddy. how do they keep track of who's who in their offices?

hmm but my machine ip is dynamic, do I have to turn it into static?

also CAPITAL LETTER NAMES BECAUSE HE'S IMPORTANT

WHO ?

NOT ME

@EvilGoat You should have a static IP to port forward to, yes.

BEEMIREDDY RAJASEKHARREDDY

you know, just in case you didn't know he was reddy

now you know. twice.

A DHCP-assigned dynamic IP means you'd have to update it every time your IP changes

ok is there any drawback whatsoever to setting a static ip?

UPnP is a somewhat-broken method that works around that issue

@EvilGoat Not really, you just have to be careful not to clash.

@allquixotic: but is he reddy?

Recommended to make sure you're not in the DHCP-assigned range, though not compulsory (detection for that is decent)

ok fair enough, so how do I set a static IP?

@JourneymanGeek he doesn't seem reddy to start using PhantomJS

but if you assign static on multiple machines, just keep track of what's taken

(guides are welcome)

@EvilGoat in your computer's networking properties

@Bob: not necessarily, most routers tend to give the same IP address all the time.

Windows or Linux?

win7ultimate

@EvilGoat You can also set some DHCP servers to always assign specific IP addresses to a given MAC address

I wouldn't bother with static ip addresses internally till shit breaks

Static IPs do have another drawback - you'd need to change them if you change networks

well that is not a problem, it is a home computer in a home network

@EvilGoat blog.mclaughlinsoftware.com/2009/11/26/windows-7-static-ip

@JourneymanGeek "tend to" is not guaranteed

Depends a lot on the DHCP server.

Some will almost always persist an IP for the same device

some will hand out completely random ones

some will only remember until a reboot

it's just not reliable

you can do it, sure

@Bob: I'd try fixing everything else first before worrying about that ;p

I'd not recommend it

@JourneymanGeek there's nothing to fix

there's nothing broken

it's just plain old port forwarding, where setting a static IP is a reasonable first step

lease reservation in router ?

@EvilGoat Probably a better guide: howtogeek.com/howto/19249/…

(welcome to root access, where we disagree on almost everything. And we might both be right ;p)

yeh the first one got me more confused than I was already

@EvilGoat howtogeek.com/66214/how-to-forward-ports-on-your-router

ok now I need "the correct IP, Subnet mask, and Default gateway that corresponds with your network setup." How the heck do I find these?

@JourneymanGeek I've had cheap routers that wouldn't remember changed settings without an explicit save - good luck getting it to remember DHCP leases :P

@EvilGoat Look at your current ones (network details)

fair point

Just remember to update them if you do change the external network (e.g. router on a new IP address)

subnet-calculator.com/subnet.php?net_class=C

I like using this ;p

@Bob: ahh, there's your problem ;p

@JourneymanGeek that doesn't really help in this case :P

is default gateway the ip of my router?

@EvilGoat: yes

@EvilGoat normally, yes

ok can I check these from cmd with net view?

in SOHO networks anywa

@EvilGoat ipconfig /all if you want to check there

ooh

SE app is out of beta

yeah thats what I meant :P

@EvilGoat howtogeek.com/177648/…

ok what IP should I use as static now? is it ok if I set to the one I have?

@JourneymanGeek welcome to yesterday's news..... :D

@EvilGoat if you want

@allquixotic: I'm a bit slow ;p

I'd recommend something a bit more out of the way, though

examples would be useful:)

e.g. something like x.x.x.200

but you can choose whatever you like

Entirely your choice.

ok, btw does this affect the IP that others will use to connect to my server? (minecraft if you need to know)

Anything would work equally, just remember your system if you intend to have multiple machines on static

@EvilGoat from external or internal?

external

not at all

internal is no problem really

ok great

they'll hit your external IP on port X, which will be forwarded to the specified internal IP on port Y depending on your port forwarding configs

they'll never (need to) know your internal IP

ok perfect, I set it to 192.168.2.200 hope it is alright, will try to port forward now

I probably have to restart the connection right?

and ooh, the moto has google play music

the moto ?

@JourneymanGeek any device certified for Google Play Services has Music

@HackToHell: I got a new phone, a moto G

the 99$ one ?

@JourneymanGeek you got it??? congrats! :D

@allquixotic: actually, I can't install it on the HTC ;p

@allquixotic: XD

I got it

@JourneymanGeek why ?

@JourneymanGeek welcome to Motorola Smartphone Owner Land!

now come here and be jealous about my 3500 mAh battery

(:

@HackToHell: some bullshit about it not being allowed on the device

@JourneymanGeek probably more to do with it requiring a very recent version of Android (4.2 or later)

well I do not know what DNS servers to use, how do I find the correct ones?

I have a 7200rpm SATA 6 Gb/s drive connected via a USB 2.0 docking station to my NAS. It's backing up from the NAS to the disk at ~6 MB/s. Any idea where the bottleneck would be? CPU?

@JourneymanGeek :O that's shit

@allquixotic: I do have a 7800mAh battery

@EvilGoat 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4

@slhck USB 2.0 ?

ok that was fast :P

@slhck: probably, depends on the nas tho

@JourneymanGeek Oh, same one as me! 8GB or 16GB edition?

@HackToHell Yes, USB 2.0

@ThatBrazilianGuy: 8gb

@JourneymanGeek ...no you don't (unless you mean an external battery)

they didn't have a black magnetic cover

or unless you are intentionally messing with the voltage

@allquixotic: yes, I did ;p

internal ip seems legit :P

192.168.2.200 great now to forward

@JourneymanGeek It's a really nice phone, way more powerful than my old defy. Only flaw is the lack of microSD slot

amusingly cause I keep forgetting to charge the phone

@JourneymanGeek QNAP TS-2something. 2-bay consumer-grade.

@slhck Oh well I confused the max speeds of usb 1.1 and 2.0 :P

@allquixotic :(

@ThatBrazilianGuy: I'm feeling the same way about my one V

@allquixotic wtf why so recent

which I need to root tommorrow ;p

Do it today :P

@Bob Google likes to require recent Android for their hottest apps

well I forwarded the ports and canyouseeme.org shows still that it cannot see me

@EvilGoat you can usually hit the router IP for a basic DNS cache

and maybe have 8.8.8.8 as the secondary DNS server

I spent half a day trying to root my phone the day I got it

not always best to have as primary

@JourneymanGeek Wait, you paid only USD100 for it? I paid USD 300 ;____;

lol ThatOverpricedBrazilianGuy

@ThatBrazilianGuy: nope

231.50 USD

A moto g here is somewhere in between you two :P

Oh. Mine had 16GB and a cool bluetooth headset, so not that bad

lol

I'm happy with this ;p

oh, dual sim version

> a cool bluetooth headset that I can't use outdoors or else I'll be robbed

for whatever utility that has ;p

!! s/cool/cheapo/

@allquixotic a cheapo bluetooth headset that I can't use outdoors or else I'll be robbed (source)

well port still seems closed... :(

@EvilGoat it's going to look closed anyway if you have no listening services

a port is only open/listening when there's a process holding it open

so if I run the server shall it look open?

possibly

the port forwarding is probably working if it says closed instead of stealth/filtered

@ThatBrazilianGuy: someone needs to make a bluetooth nokia 3310

yup that did it

well that was a hell of a lot of help I got, thank you kind gentlemen :)

YOU WANT TO STEAL MY PHONE? I BEAT YOU WITH IT!

@allquixotic Not really, a USD 100 Motoroloa Sol Republic Tracks Air.

@allquixotic: I like the camera, but the app is a bit naff

@ThatBrazilianGuy as said :D

Sol Republic = ugh

I have zero experience with bluetooth phones.

lol

And I'm not an audiophile, so...

don't talk about headphones with The Headphone Guys (me, @Bob and @JourneymanGeek)

> headers: An object containing request headers.

Awesome docs :P

I have wired creative headphones for my phone

cheapish, cheerful, and they don't fall out of my ears.

@allquixotic I'm a headphone guy now? (glances around at cheapass headsets) :P

currently listening to Spotify with my Meelectronics AF62 Matrix Wireless

I mean, I certainly wouldn't mind a good set. Just not at the top of the crap-to-buy list

oh btw I ordered those gigantic Steelseries H Wireless headphones :D now just have to wait "1-2 months" til they ship

lol

Currently, a new phone's topping that list.

The only other phones I ever had were those USD5 philips wired phones. (/me gets killed by the audiophiles)

i suspect the H Wireless cups will be large enough to encompass my entire head

I was basically stalking the moto for months ;p

they're not just earphones; they're whole HEAD phones!

and turned out there's a retailer near my place

so.. well... ;p

@JourneymanGeek I think I'd rather the Nexus, if it comes down to it

@ThatBrazilianGuy YOU HAVE NEVER HEARD DECENT MUSIC... THIS MAKES ME SAD

@Bob no, you'd rather have the Droid Maxx, but you live in The Wrong Country (™)

stop living upside down, where toilets flush the wrong way and people say "mate"

@ThatBrazilianGuy: my 'spare' phones cost 2 dollars ;p

@allquixotic Eh. Xperia Z and Galaxy S4 look decent.

@allquixotic What? But... "OK Computer" was elected the Record of the Decade!

It's Motorola's job to make it easy for me to buy their products.

lol

@Bob it's your job to live in a country where you can get them :D

:D :D :D :D

@allquixotic At least it's not Beats by Dr Dre (R) (TM) (C) (Patent Pending)

@Bob granted

Beats by OMG WHY DID I JUST PAY $270 FOR THIS BULL@$#($(#)($@#

> It's Motorola's Mozilla's job to make it easy for me to buy their products Firefox OS phones.

Instead of selling them on Vivo where ONE CAN'T FU#@$#@%ING SIGN UP ON THE SITE

Beats by mwahahahahahhaha I just completely ripped you off by selling you an awful pair of bluetooth headphones at almost retail price and you're going to hate them

(I actually did that)

@allquixotic Sold them to someone?

@ThatBrazilianGuy Yup :D

amazon.com/Beats-Wireless-On-Ear-Headphone-Black/dp/B008EQ1YWA

@allquixotic Just like Apple. The overpriced crap has ridiculously high resell.

@Bob" plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+RaviMohan/albums/… photos I took today with both phones.

Of course, you'll be killing yourself every day you have to use them.

sold those for like $40 off retail price, plus shipping :D

@JourneymanGeek BOOO GOOGLE PLUS

thrilled I was able to get away with that much of my money back

sorry!

Slowly the evil masterminds of this chatroom reveal themselves...

(I think I have you added on my other account, but I really can't be bothered switching right now)

@JourneymanGeek at least I know your RealName now :)

gomme a moment

@allquixotic Google's plan is all coming together!

@Bob: drop-boxing them now

people who ordinarily do not upvote my stuff should go here; everyone else, stay far away, very far

dro- oh come on -_-

I really should have also had a 'real' camera for comparison but I forgot.

heh

@Bob: pfft. so you can download a zip?

my current opinion on cameras: if it can't take RAW, it's not a good camera

(recently did some pretty epic adjustments on RAW files that the auto-JPEG completely ruined - fireworks)

hang on, not totally downloaded yet

@Bob I agree... and I haven't seen a camera in a phone that's anywhere near as good as a dedicated camera device whose sole purpose is to take pictures

@allquixotic: naturally

@allquixotic well, I suppose it's a whole lot cheaper

I use my phone camera when I have no other choice

still, I'm hindered mostly by the "features" they add

fucking autofocus i can't disable

I can focus just fine manually

although apparently my phone camera is good enough to take pictures of a check, for my credit union's remote check deposit app

the AF can get this close to perfect

and then it snaps back to blurriest possible

there's no way to get it to just hold at near-focus

download app from play store; sign into account; put check on flat table; turn on good lighting; sign check; take picture of front and back; submit; $

@allquixotic: I usually carry around a compact camera when I go random headclearing walkies ;p

@JourneymanGeek aww, your caretakers got you a camera that you can wear around your neck? or you carry the string in your mouth?

@allquixotic: small doggy backpack of course ;p

@JourneymanGeek the HDR photos look unnatural :(

(and this is a semi-blind test)

@Bob: its automatic, I didn't notice till I got back

@JourneymanGeek you do know about moto's awesome screenshot-taking hotkey, right? :D

apparently it's unique to modern moto phones

hold down the volume down button and the power button at the same time for like 2 seconds... you have to press them both at exactly the same time

@allquixotic: not yet!

@allquixotic uhhh

@allquixotic: the one V does it too

that's... not special

my S2 does it

my L520 does it

o

I'm pretty sure my N8 did it

nm

thought that was moto-specific

I know for a fact that iOS does it

so that's Android, iOS, WP8, and probably Symbian^3

doesn't the same hotkey also (eventually) reboot an android phone? :P

no?

I have to hold down power for about 8 secs to reboot

that's force power off

yup

reboot i thought is power + voldn

scientifically ;p

@allquixotic nope, reboot. on S2 anyway

@allquixotic: the moto boot screen is adorable ;p

force power off is battery out :P

oh

@JourneymanGeek can you describe it? (not sure if it's the same as mine)

and it comes with a charger with a fixed end.

though, I just remembered - on my S2 screenshotsi s home + power

same with L520

but same concept anyway

@Bob battery is non-serviceable on moto phones

@allquixotic -1 star (out of 5)

@allquixotic: moto symbol being a 'world'

something like that

@Bob makes nice unibody design tho

lack of microSD support gives another -1

@JourneymanGeek mine is nothing like that O.o but mine is also "Verizon Droid" branded

@allquixotic eh, I like my easily removed battery

@allquixotic: one of the reasons I bought this is there's no carrier branding or apps

I can carry a spare easily

@Bob I thought a lack of microSD would be like -100000000000000 for me, but I'm actually using the 32 GB internal just fine, as I just stream all my music anymore

spotify caches like 4 GB of music so it isn't always re-downloading stuff

not too much, not too little

except you pay a premium for that 32 GB

8 to 16 is something like $50 more here

I can get two 32 GB SD cards for that price

there's only one internal storage capacity for the Droid Maxx, I think

the premium I paid for is the battery, not the NAND

I'm just annoyed at Android's handling of logs

I've been repeatedly warned of lack of space on the system partition

just like physical keyboards, I think all Android phones are trending away from microSD, and except for a few niche products they'll be gone in a few years

then I end up clearing about 300 MB of logs

another case of Google and manufacturers thinking they know what's best

@allquixotic all Galaxy phones still have them

@Bob for now

@allquixotic it's a giant chunk of the market

the Xperia Z does too

but Galaxy phones also have TouchWiz, which is an absolute catastrophe and a farse and completely unnecessary, and a lot of mandatory bloat (at least on my carrier), and horrible battery life

Nexus/Moto are pretty much the only ones who don't

wouldn't touch another Samsung product with a 10-lightyear pole at this point

@allquixotic TouchWiz is easy to solve.

A missing MicroSD slot is far more difficult

I'm using Nova Launcher, and it's pretty much stock

I consume a lot of data and store a lot of data and I just don't think I need it anymore, so.. /shrug

if my next phone has 64 GB of internal NAND, I'll be tickled pink, no SD needed

@allquixotic You and your unlimited data...

@Bob Where are the logs in the system partiton ?

and.. I just got a video call from the kid

@allquixotic Yea, as long as they don't charge $400 more for that

stalker much?

@HackToHell depends on your phone

@JourneymanGeek the kid? Utkarsh?

yes

ugh

there's apps that provide a graphical view of the storage used

@Bob ah ok

and apps to clear it out

@JourneymanGeek lol

(you need root privs)

@Bob They don't show logs though

@HackToHell logs are just files

play.google.com/store/apps/…

blocked.

I'm surrounded by idiots. Who do I have to kill to get my hands on a superior brain?

ES has a disk analyser

I wish I could do that in reality :D

@JourneymanGeek what, the app?

o.O

o0 that g+ link has a request access button

nice

does !!afk even do anything now? (@allquixotic)

And i got kicked from a workshop on Android today because apparently I am too young @_@

!!afk sleep

@Bob hi

!!afk pingmeplz

@allquixotic ping

!!afk sleep

tons of regressions in zirak upstream lately

@Bob: g+ in general?

@Bob you going to sleep already?

@allquixotic 2:22 AM

:P nite

morning* :P

...This is not the kind of thing to advocate on SE: android.stackexchange.com/a/62098/17771

@HackToHell exactly how old are you IRL?

@ThatBrazilianGuy 42

ugh, ok, actual sleep now

@Bob Yes, "42", that's the answer. Now tell me what's the question, please. Or let's have @ChatBotJohnCavil calculate it.

@ThatBrazilianGuy old enough

@HackToHell straight off reddit :P

yeah :P

was going to link it :P

It's still funny ... now go sleep

@HackToHell yessir

Wikipedia is throwing a 502 !!

And it's back

is there any recover command used to restore file from a ext journaling system ?

i just messed up my backup.ab

TIL marijuana is pretty much legal in india

and it's known as ganja :P

> Cannabis (also known as ganja or bhang) is associated with worship of the Hindu deity Shiva, who is sometimes associated with the hemp plant. Bhang is offered to Shiva images, especially on Shivratri festival. This practice is particularly witnessed at the temples of Benares, Baidynath, Tarakeswar, Pashupatinath Temple and other Shiv Temples of India and Nepal.[4] Bhang is not only offered to Shiva, but also consumed by Shaivite yogis.

o0

Also marijuana is a sacred plant here xD