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gah!
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Q: How to undo rm -rf?

Amritdeep DhunganaHow can I undo rm -rf command? For example, I have Application folder, and I have mistakenly removed it by running rm -rf Application. I want to recover that Application folder, but it's not in the Trash folder. What should I do now? Is there any command to undo rm -rf?

it's only a duplicate of half a million questions
heh, the cross-posted to SF?
they'll tear him apart
@Bob wut, he posted the same question in almost all se
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facepalm
@Braiam though I do kinda wanna see it in Academia or something :P
@Bob even I have an account there D:
00:42
I have a slighr suspicion iight be drunk
I might br
Damn phone keubiatd
Keyvoard
Áaaaaaaa
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don't take the steering :P
I need some help with this question
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Q: Disable "Advanced Printing Features" permanently

beckoHow can I disable the "Advanced Printing Features" option (in Windows, go to Control Panel\Hardware and Sound\Devices and Printers, right click the printer, go to Printer Preferences -> Advanced)? When I disable it and click accept, and then open the property pages again, it appears Enabled aga...

Nobody seems to have noticed it!
Cant help now sorry
maybe it isn't clear enough ?
No I am slightly drunk
Normally hi am not like this
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@ThatBrazilianGuy Hanging around stackexchange superuser chat is probably an unorthodox way to clear a hangover.
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lol
@ThatBrazilianGuy: If it makes you feel any better, I type like that on phone keyboards sober sometimes.
(of course, might be the whole being a dog thing.)
I wish I could star stuff on mobile
If i reallyvconcentrate i get more siber
But being half drunk is funnier
I can tell you're concentrating. Your typing seems to be getting more interesting.
Please help me with my question! Goodbye everyone.
01:06
@ThatBrazilianGuy there, you can star it now :P
I am kinda amused this picture exists.
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02:00
o.O
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Q: How to reset administrative password without the use of a "p" key.

user238801So I do not know my administrative password. I read up on how to reset it by clicking left shift after the BIOS page upon start up. going to the recovery option, then root, then doing mount -o rw, remount / but then I believe I must do passwrd to change the password, HOWEVER, my keyboard does no...

I mean... sure... but isn't the obvious solution getting a new keyboard?
They aren't exactly expensive.
btw, Hearthstone is in Open Beta
ANYONE can play
and it's FREE
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Actually, any office with a significant number of computers tends to have a large number of extra keyboards that're either stored or thrown out...
@Bob: and homes ;p
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@JourneymanGeek bah. I only have spare DIN and one shitty UK PS/2 (old, gummy, and unfamiliar layout)
need more keyboards!
02:17
I think my last spare is a SGI keyboard
ok, and a tiny wired keyboard
02:40
I've always wanted a rat colonic carcinoma
03:35
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whoever designed the mage class in hearthstone should be taken out back and shot point-blank in the stamper
04:15
Why?
04:33
@MichaelFrank have you even played hearthstone? if not, there's no point in me explaining it to you.
I have.
I haven't played much of the mage class though.
@MichaelFrank mage has been nerfed 3 times, and it's still the most powerful class in the game, by far
it's the most flexible class, it can get out of more situations than any other class
Yea, the secrets are pretty overpowered from what I've seen.
like even if your opponent has played extremely well and fought you into a corner and you're sure to lose by momentum, if you have a pyroblast and fireball, gg
no, the secrets are pretty balanced overall... ice block is very powerful but the rest aren't especially good or especially bad
it's the enormous direct damage spells that make it just a stupid class to play against
unless i'm playing arena, i just flat-out Alt+F4 whenever I see I'm facing a mage
Wouldn't that count as a loss anyway?
04:37
yeah, but it's not even worth my time to wait for them to pick their cards and then concede, because i know without having even seen their first turn that i lost
i can completely dominate them the entire game and then WHOOPS 30 DAMAGE GG
so, fastest way to avoid the frustration is to simply not play them
and i can get back into a game faster by alt-f4 than conceding because they tend to be obnoxious pricks that take 10 minutes to pick their starting hand
the mage hero power has the best value in the game because of how many minions it can eliminate, and the mage doesn't even take any damage in the process of eliminating them, whereas with paladin and druid, you have to face check them and take damage to eliminate something with your hero power
and the mage class cards, particularly freezing and direct damage, are the best value cards in the game because you can eliminate the enemy's board AND still have mana left over to build up your own board
and if you're losing, never fear! just pull a pyroblast out of your ass and you win
when i first started playing hearthstone i played a lot of mage, and i was very successful and i liked it, until i realized how imbalanced they are, then i decided i will never play mage again
it's basically cheating, and i don't want to cheat myself out of needing true skill to win, so i don't play mage ever
in fact the ONLY time I ever went 9-0 in arena is with a mage deck, i've never done anywhere near that well with any other class
they have nerfed mage cards twice and they are still the best class in the game, because all they do is increase the mana cost, they don't make the combos any less effective
you can tell that they are imbalanced because EVERY SINGLE competitive tournament player who has ever competed in any hearthstone tournament to date has run a mage deck somewhere in their deck list (usually you get 3 decks to work with, and you lose when all your decks have lost a game, or you win when your opponent reaches that state)
I have literally never seen someone play a tournament without a mage deck somewhere in their list, and it's only one of nine classes, so the chances are not extremely high if all things were equal
no other class is guaranteed to be in a competitive player's deck list except mage, because mage is the "I win" button
I can see you feel very strongly about this.
nowadays people who don't play mage are mostly playing rush-down decks, which makes a LOT of sense when you think about it... the best mage cards cost 4, 6 and 10 mana, so if you can win before they have enough mana to cast some of those cards, your odds are greatly improved
the entire meta-game of the whole game has shifted towards fast decks because people are so tired of getting pyroblasted when they play control decks or pretty much anything else other than win on turn 6
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superuser.com/questions/330347/… I'm tempted to throw a medium sized, canonical answer bounty for this.
or just try it myself and see ;p
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Q: (captcha) What is the meaning of 'second 3'?

jhyapI am trying to register a technical forum as a member. As usual, we need to answer some captcha as this is a common security question to prevent spam. And here is their security question: Of the following characters "pACh4pay!$%" please type the second 3: I stare at the question for a few se...

Its so darned amusing that someone is trying to use SU to solve a captcha
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06:43
huh
someone purged comments on that answer about size on disk
06:56
Hi, I don't know if this is where I should be asking this
but I am currently upgrading to Windows 8.1 from my newly bought Windows 8 laptop.
I don't know the serial number (though it's asking me for one for some reason), so I was wondering, do I enter the OEM BIOS MSDM key, or how do I retrieve my key?
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07:10
I never even got that far in my upgrade :P
@Bob what do you mean?
 
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08:15
@think123 oh, incompatibility with wifi drivers
(= BSOD)
that, and OS upgrades hate me
@JourneymanGeek did you ever find time to test that pen?
morning
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@kalina oh hi. you ever gonna say anything more than a greeting? :P
I'm working up to it
I could talk about ponies extensively but I'm not sure you guys would want that :P
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Hmm... never know until you try!
08:44
damn, a game I want on Android has finally been released and I'm at work
sigh... I guess
time for mobile data to take a hit
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o.O
@kalina which game?
Deus Ex: The Fall
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Hm. Looks alright. Bit of a big download.
depends on context
 
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How do i stop getting e-mails from a company? A) buy thier product and have a support question. :-)
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@Bob: no, been running around a lot the past few days
And I haven't quite decided what to test it with
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@JourneymanGeek I've given up on transport in SR4, just running/jumping around :P
Also, popped into a smiggle and asked about em. Lady knew what it was (yay!) but said they were out of stock
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@JourneymanGeek Yea, discontinued now ;(
@Bob: once you get the right powerups, cars are redundant outside missions
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I'm surprised they recognised them.
11:20
Yeah
The other one I asked at was all "What's those?"
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xD
Replaced one of my homeplug 200s with a 500. Need to test it with the dryer on ;p
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o.O
Thats good
@Bob: I also shifted the location of the adaptor closer to the router, and further from the dryer. And yes, the dryer was causing interference.
I did mention my powerline network was cutting out every time the dryer was on, no?
 
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hm
I SEEM to be getting roughly 10x the speed I was with the old adaptor. Might have been the crappy ethernet cable tho
MORE SCIENCE!
Well, once this test is done anyway
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12:54
can't wait to pick up and try the 78G :P
bah. why couldn't they just leave it next to the door
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the most interesting part is the captcha is always the same..lol — jhyap 6 hours ago
... I see a fundamental problem there
Other than the OP failing a turing test? ;p
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Hello persons (and housepets)
woof
is doing some speed tests ;)
> What is the meaning?
The meaning, dear OP, is "You apparently skipped all your text comprehension classes".
Solution: go back to elementary school.
[fixed]
rofl
I ALMOST answered that.
I mean, that way.
13:47
I almost commented my first line.
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@ThatBrazilianGuy Honestly? That was absolutely atrocious phrasing. I couldn't figure it out at all. There's so many ways to make it much clearer.
From a site owner POV, you have to consider the behaviour of your audience. Like putting banners on a tech-savvy oriented site who knows ADBlock.
@Bob: I got it as soon as I read it.
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@JourneymanGeek Lucky you :P
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@ThatBrazilianGuy From a UX POV you want to make it as easy as possible for a human to parse.
I mean, what's the use of a turing test people fail and a small dog gets?
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"the second 3" carries almost zero meaning to me
"the second 3" what?
@Bob Yes, you are 100% correct. It is better to reach the majority of your audience easily than to be semantically correct, but cryptic to the most users. However, you still have to fight spam entries and that might be a challenge.
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@JourneymanGeek And how does the context help? Apart from making me reread the jumble of characters five times to make sure I didn't miss a digit.
@ThatBrazilianGuy "the second 3" doesn't even sound grammatically correct.
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"Of the following characters"is context
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@JourneymanGeek And? Could rephrase to "second three characters", which is somewhat better.
Still not entirely clear.
When your captcha requires guesswork, you have failed.
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@Bob: Maybe its cause most human language is just a little cryptic to me ;p
(I mean, I am dyslexic ;p)
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@ThatBrazilianGuy Face it. It's cheaper and easier to hire a hundred people from India or China to sit in front of a screen and solve captchas all day than to create a bot to do it.
Captchas, like most "security" solutions, are a hinderance that annoys legitimate users and (most times) doesn't stop malicious intent.
Security and UX are usually on opposite sites and it's a challenge to stablish balance between the two.
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Increasing the difficulty of captcha to the point of locking out legitimate users doesn't help at all.
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Captchas aren't designed to keep out spammers.
They're designed to keep out bots.
A lot of spam (the majority?) is written by humans. Because botspam is often useless.
@Bob: And the OP used the site as a way to get someone to solve it for him ;p
after getting himself locked up
I couldn't resist and added a not-so-subtle comment to the question.
@kalina O___O a Deus Ex game I haven't played? time to download it!
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A: Apparently PayPal-affiliated site with very suspect security

kiBytesI have been doing further research, the special site has "PayPal, Inc[US]" certificate and the paypal original site has "PayPal, Inc.[US]" certificate (note the dot after Inc). The certificates contain this (relevant) information: CN = www.paypal-special.com OU = Partner Support O = PayPal, I...

@allquixotic Too expensive for me ._____.
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is it normal for two different EV certificates (for two different domains on .com) to have the same serial number but a different OU and O?
@allquixotic yeah, it's a bit... well, it's a touchscreen game
who knows
@ThatBrazilianGuy umm... it's 7 USD?
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@allquixotic "normal"?
@allquixotic Probably $70 for him, after taxes.
even with your messed up third-world currency, that can't be much worse for you than what I would be willing to shell out for a game I really like
@Bob yeah, but I'd pay $70 for a Deus Ex game
it's by Square Enix tho
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@allquixotic On a phone?
14:03
(a bad thing)
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Never really got into phone gaming. Especially FPS games.
Tried it before. The controls were terrible.
I was okay with the Mass Effect game for tablet, but I'll probably plug in my bluetooth mouse and keyboard and make another attempt at Miracast to play it on my TV :P
presumably the game at least works with mouse/keyboard
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o.O
Seems like an awful lot of trouble.
if it gives me a cursor on the screen when I move the mouse in the game, I'm going to throw my phone across the room
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I might consider phone gaming again after working through my steam library :P
14:06
well. maybe not. I LOVE my phone.
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and getting a phone that lasts longer than a day on battery standby
although if i get an Otterbox Defender like I keep saying I will, I won't even mind throwing it across the room
@Bob No, it's USD 8 to me. There is some taxes on the credit card, and they always consider the dollar a little higher than what google says it is, but I doubt I'd end up paying more than USD 10 for it. The problem is, it is a bit expensive for my casual game buying habits. I have never paid for a game more than I'd pay for, say, movie tickets. So it is actually on the limit of what I'd pay for a full feature game on Steam.
could use that to take out anger without (almost) any risk of harming the phone
I really really love the IHB and similar because I've been able to buy lots and lots of good games for reeeeeally cheap
In fact, I bought them so much, when I looked the total sum of my spendings I almost choked and then went cold turkey
@Bob wait a month; I'm sure the Nexus 7 2014 is due out any time :P
I'm at the point where most/all of my devices are so current and so functional that I'm fine skipping a generation
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@allquixotic meh
skipping Haswell, skipping Radeon R9, skipping Nexus 7 2013, skipping Surface Pro 2, ... the only thing I will never skip on is my phone because it's my lifeline, so, when Moto releases their next smartphone, I'm all over it
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I can get another 5% off that
unless it has horrid flaws, in which case I'll probably go Samsung (ugh)
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14:11
tempted :S
@allquixotic I'm a little behind now, but I don't really care :P
my 2011 desktop is perfectly fine, if a little loud
depending on how expensive it is, I might go Haswell-E, when it's released, for the enthusiast-scale hardware and simplified architecture (no on-chip iGPU, yay)
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phone... 2012, going on two years now, expecting it to fail soon. that's one I'm looking to upgrade, because its RAM is seriously constraining
pretty sure it's gonna be hella expensive though
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laptop was end of 2012, hopefully it lasts a few more years
honestly I don't really have any use for a tablet
@Bob Moto sells the Droid Maxx in a Developer Edition now, which has an unlocked bootloader and you can run it on GSM networks and such, it's fully customizable out of the box
you'd have to foot full retail tho... something like $649
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14:14
@allquixotic prolly not compatible with au bands
WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1800/1900, LTE Band 04/13, HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps, CDMA EV-DO Release A, GPRS Class 12
any of those?
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850 and 900
would that be 2G, or 3G?
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@allquixotic 3G
i mean in Australia, is GSM 850 or GSM 900 considered to be 3G?
ah.
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14:15
but Telstra does 850/2100 dual
and Optus 900/2100 dual
so use 850 and 900 is poor
no 2100 support. oh well. how about HSUPA / HSDPA? isn't that GSM version of 4G?
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Vodafone does 850, 900 and 2100, but their coverage is pretty patchy
nope
4G is LTE on GSM networks too
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@allquixotic Our 2G is 900 and 1800
@allquixotic sometimes called 3.5G
14:17
I guess the CDMA stuff and the GPRS stuff is useless in Australia (GPRS is 2G in the United States, AFAIK)
@allquixotic: no one but the americans use CDMA
GRPS is obsolete these days
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interesting, that phone might actually work with our LTE
Australia is currently using these LTE bands (LTE bandmask in brackets):

    2100Mhz (B1) FDD (0000000000000001) – Telstra (3G spectrum)
    1800Mhz (B3) FDD (0000000000000004) – Telstra, Optus, Vodafone
    900Mhz (B8) FDD (0000000000000080) – Telstra, Vodafone?, Optus (utilises spectrum previously used by 2G)
    2300Mhz (B40) TDD (0000008000000000) – Optus (Vivid wireless spectrum)

To follow late 2014:

    2600Mhz (B7) FDD (0000000000000040) – Telstra, Optus, TPG?
    700Mhz (B28) FDD (0000000008000000) – Telstra, Optus
band 4
at least I think that's band 4
er.... where do you see band 4 in that list?
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wait no
my bad
...well, sucks
this phone does bands 4 and 13; that list has 1, 3, 8, 40, 7, and 28... no overlap
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14:18
ya.
the Band 28 700 MHz spectrum is less than 100 MHz from what this phone can do, but I guess the baseband is locked at specific frequencies
in fact it's probably just a few tens of MHz away
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@JourneymanGeek My phone still drops to EDGE now and then
although in theory with a dev edition phone you could do absolutely anything to it including modifying the BBP and nobody would be able to stop you
unsure if there's a hack out there to do just that, though
a lot of people from outside the United States have an interest in the Droid Maxx and a community of people trying to get them unlocked and working abroad has sprung up
I've seen posts from Iran, India and China in the xda forums for the droid ultra / droid maxx
people like the specs
radio flashing is definitely a thing, and with an unlocked bootloader, you can disable the signing verification and flash custom radios (which overwrites the firmware in the cellular baseband processor)
then it just becomes a matter of some smart programmer actually telling the baseband to use certain frequencies
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14:22
no word on LTE australia though
of course, that's the Razr Maxx HD, which is the previous generation moto phone
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not enough people here
gah, not worth the trouble
I could get a S4 for that price
they're close enough that I'd just take the one that works out of the box, and root it
oh wow
moto g was actually released here o.O
Ok. Things get wierd. Trying a direct file transfer off the ethernet cable I THOUGHT was the problem and it isn't
at least it has 0 or more downloads... I was worried it might have negative downloads
just noticed that part of the screenshot :P
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14:29
> Horize W840SN Ultrabook - i7-4500U, 14" 1080P Matte, 128GB SSD, Nvidia GT745M 2GB $1199 + $29.95
hrm
Haswell low power, good res, yay matte, weak SSD, good dGPU, doesn't say how much system memory though unless it's "2 GB" (that's WEAK)
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> RAM 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz System Memory
ah. that's fine for an ultrabook
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> Networking Intel 7260-AC WLAN, 10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN, Bluetooth
Intel card :D
AC :D
!! s/fine/good/
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@allquixotic ah. that's good for an ultrabook (source)
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lol
Hm. 1.8 kg. On the heavy side for an ultrabook
huh, no OS o.O
9 hour battery? if only that were true
9 hours doing what? screen and wifi off with 0% CPU usage?
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@allquixotic there's a bay for a second drive
@allquixotic heh, other guy commenting:
> Yeah I know for a fact that a 4 cell on this sort of spec cannot last the quoted 9 hours.

I'm pretty sure that 9 hours would have been achieved with the screen on the lowest brightness, wifi off and running no apps
hmm
> Official spec summary is 9 hours….

To be honest I would expect 7 hours.

We have done 20% load test and had 6 hours 12 minutes.

So internet browsing and ozbargaining should get around 7 hours (5-10% usage).

Approximately, of course!
that's for the first six months until the battery starts to significantly degrade
granted, the weight of my Surface Pro, combined with the super high energy usage of the IPS panel, yields far less than 7 hours of bat life
(implication being, low weight === tiny battery to keep weight down)
if it weren't for all the legacy x86 Windows programs I need, I would be in the market for an ARM ultrabook... probably not the Surface or Surface 2, but definitely Android or GNU/Linux; ARM kicks ass on power efficiency, so you can get like 10 hours out of a wafer-thin battery
@allquixotic: could always remote into a windows system with a fast enough network connection
14:37
with x86 you either get great battery with a unit that weighs as much as a brick and is impossible to hold in your hand for any length of time, or you get terrible battery with a usable unit
@JourneymanGeek been there done that; sucks. but then again I wasn't using 802.11ac
maybe 'ac will make things better
standardised beam forming
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@allquixotic And doesn't really do much.
that's the killer feature at the PHY layer imo
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May as well use your phone.
lol. I'm pretty sure you can do that 802.11g
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That's the thing. ARM may be power efficient, but I only really need one power efficient device without much raw power. Maybe two.
On the other hand, I can certainly use more powerful machines for actual processing work.
14:39
I kinda want a power efficient device in the ultrabook form factor, but usually when I am typing on a keyboard and using a trackpad, I'm like, "where are my x86 Windows apps?!"
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@allquixotic You could always get a chromebook, but I consider them mostly useless.
@Bob: Problem is really, you need bits of almost every model to get one thats obviously kickass ;p
@Bob yeah, chromebooks are !!no. if I went ARM I'd probably go Android, because relatively speaking, there are more apps and you can do more with Android than any other non-Windows OS right now, except maybe iOS which is on a somewhat-equal footing
(except for the occasional snobbish vendor that will produce iOS apps and pretend Android doesn't exist even though it has a majority market share)
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I kinda want to get a small light ultrabook
personally I wouldn't mind at all if Android eventually became a viable alternative as a desktop OS, but as of yet there are too many killer apps with no equivalent on Android. it's definitely far enough along to be impressive, at the very least, though
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14:49
but they cost so much :\
@allquixotic also too hard to randomly hack together something
I mean JuiceSSH is an incredible application
remember that power efficiency is not "consume less power"...
there are awesome media players on Android, both audio and video; there are very featureful office suites that rival Libreoffice (but not MS Office, yet)
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On Android, first thing I do is go look for an existing app. On Windows? Gimme 5 mins with the command prompt or LINQPad or Python. Ditto for Linux.
@Braiam True enough.
x86 ULV might still win for performance per watt
@allquixotic I just don't really like the interface
hooked up a keyboard and mouse to a Samsung TV running some variant of Android
felt rather clumsy
well, the benchmarks of x86 ULV against high-end tablet ARM SoCs has heavily favored x86 all the way, but if they can't make higher energy density batteries, ARM ends up being better unless you need that extra meat that x86 can provide
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14:52
friend has a tablet with BT keyboard, feels similarly clumsy
and a significant portion of x86's extra meat is wasted by things like the CISC firmware (x86 microcode is translated down to run on the processor's physical RISC setup) and, at least on Windows, by legacy cruft that's totally unnecessary and inefficient on today's systems
@allquixotic: quickoffice is frankly brilliant.
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> legacy cruft that's totally unnecessary and inefficient on today's systems
That legacy cruft is what lets you run your Windows programs.
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right, but it's a horrible catch-22
14:54
@Bob so is developers fault...
not hardware
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@allquixotic WinRT dropped all that legacy cruft. Look where that went.
DCOM is a super inefficient IPC mechanism that involves lots of context switching and buffer copying, yet it's used extensively in almost all Windows programs, because it's baked into the Win32 API so much that it's hard to avoid
and that's why we all love linux
and to make matters worse, all those context switches require an IPI, which effectively limits the throughput of certain resources on the system to the performance of a single core
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@allquixotic Actually, I have a question I've been trying to answer for a while now. What's a good way to do IPC? I'd prefer .NET, but really anything.
14:56
@Bob on Windows?
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Ya.
@Bob what's more important to you out of the following factors: ease of programming; latency; throughput; portability (to other platforms)?
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I guess named pipes is one way.
@allquixotic The same order you listed :P
heh, I get 1 upvote for each 8 upvotes Bob gets...
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This'll never be run on anything but Windows.
14:57
I'd say go with a .net Streams based interface using TCP sockets then
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Mostly because the rest of the system is tied to that Progress thing from the 80s
@allquixotic How does that compare to named pipes?
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Q: C# Sockets vs Pipes

quixverCurrently I am working on a multi-process desktop application on Windows. This application will be a shrink wrapped application which will be deployed on client machines across the world. While we can have broad specifications for the machines - e.g. Windows XP SP3 with .Net 4.0 CF, we wont have ...

> Performance of pipes is often better on a fast LAN but TCP is often better on slower networks or WANs. See msdn points below.
hrm.
local machine anyway
on localhost to localhost, TCP is probably comparable, because on the loopback interface you can set a huge receive window and eliminate much of the overhead of the TCP, because you're basically guaranteed to get an ACK every time; no resends
basically: construct one enormous packet for each logical message sent by the program, do your TCP socket setup, send the one enormous packet, whee we got an ACK in less than 1 ms, process the data, then idle the socket or teardown or whatever
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